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During the 1960s and '70s thousands of of East German People's Army troops were sent to Africa to help train national armies and black liberation guerrilla groups, earning the nickname 'Africa Korps'. Find out what East Germany was up to, and why...
Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS, FRSA is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.o...
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@efnissien
@efnissien 2 года назад
I remember one old spook telling me "If you see a basket ball pitch in satellite images of an 'advisors' camp it means Cubans, if you see a football pitch it's East Germans."
@Abuyahya98
@Abuyahya98 2 года назад
Mark Felton liked this comment how based is that 😎
@zepter00
@zepter00 2 года назад
Cubans don’t like basketball too much..They love volleyball.
@GrooveSpaceArk
@GrooveSpaceArk 2 года назад
@@zepter00 probably misspelt baseball
@malkavianstr450
@malkavianstr450 2 года назад
Cubans play baseball. I think you got that confused.
@cemwind
@cemwind 2 года назад
Spook is a little outdated, you should say person of color now
@martinryder6910
@martinryder6910 2 года назад
I spoke to several ex east German soldiers and echoed exactly what you said and considered one of the best eastern bloc armies. They all found this highly amusing and said most of their army life was drinking heavily and hiding from duties just to pass the time before demobbing.
@manjelos
@manjelos Год назад
I know also some of them. One told me, he was on the border unit and some soldiers came back from the patrol, aimed for joke weapon on him and he did push the Ak rifle in the last moment, there was bullet in the chamber. Looks not so much serious for me, because even this border troops had to be better as normal troops
@PenskePC17
@PenskePC17 9 месяцев назад
It was high quality for the second world, that doesn't mean it wouldn't have been low tier for the first world.
@Farukino
@Farukino 9 месяцев назад
My dad was in the “Luftsturmregiment 40”, the paratrooper special force unit of the east german army. He said they laughed abt the discipline at the regular “Mot.-Schützen”, mentioned “fun fights” with soviet soldiers shooting jam jars with their tanks. But also that it was extremely rough, the higher private ranks severely bullied the newcomers into submission to the point that my dad tried saving some before the higher ups could get into their bedrooms and night and beat them up. Otherwise he also mentioned a lot of doing bs to wait until service was over on the day. But still a highly trained force. Several estimates by military experts suggest that if war had broken out, the warsaw pact would’ve overrun west germany in large parts due to the state of the east german army.
@Statist0815
@Statist0815 Месяц назад
This was not true for the whole army. Alcohol was strictly forbidden in military objects. In 1990 when the Bundeswehr took over the NVA, they were impressed with the readiness and fast response time of the troops during drills.
@Statist0815
@Statist0815 Месяц назад
@@Farukino Mit ihren 300 000 Mann war die NVA eine reine Verteidigungsarmee. Es gab keine "nach vorne Verteidigung" wie bei der Bundeswehr.
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 2 года назад
I saw a video of what turned out to be East Germany's 40th and last military parade on 7th October 1989 and noticed the number of African leaders on the reviewing stand along with the Inner circle of those who worked with the General Secretary of the Socialist Unity Party, SED, Eric Honecker. I did wonder why when I first saw it, this video has provided some explanation of this, thanks Dr Felton 👍
@Oberkommando
@Oberkommando 2 года назад
Quite a few African dictators experimented with socialism/communism. That's why they were invited.
@wirelessone2986
@wirelessone2986 2 года назад
Im the 3rd comment....YT is at their communist best again deleting free speech comments...well done You tube!
@Bigsky1991
@Bigsky1991 2 года назад
I was at that parade...active duty Army Officer in full class A uniform...videotaping it! It was incredible seeing all the scumbag Commie leaders in the stands...most/all dead now
@fernandoreynaaguilar1438
@fernandoreynaaguilar1438 2 года назад
In that video you can also clearly see Fidel Castro and Daniel Ortega, who are still in power (Castro's dead but his system lives on). They are the curse of Latin America
@NandiCollector
@NandiCollector 2 года назад
*That video is the most watched on RU-vid. East Germany had one of the most memorable /perfectionists military parades ever (only behind North Korea).*
@PyromanicPunk
@PyromanicPunk 2 года назад
I am from Berlin and personally know an former east german "Fallschirmjäger" (Airborne) who was an advisor in Angola and was involved in some heavy fighting. He still has ptsd to this day, but since east Germany never went to war officially, he never gets any help from the government.
@poppenspieler
@poppenspieler 2 года назад
A friend of old told me the same. He was very nervous for a very long time.
@CS-zn6pp
@CS-zn6pp 2 года назад
My ex father-in-law was a member of south African army for 10 years. He always said that some of the units they were fighting were led by white guys with blacked up faces.
@SGobuck
@SGobuck 2 года назад
Since the ddr no longer exists, it's not obligated to take care of communist veterans.
@heybabycometobutthead
@heybabycometobutthead 2 года назад
Good, he should be deported to Africa.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 года назад
I'm so glad the US government would never do such a thing to our veterans! Oh, wait.
@prikov1
@prikov1 2 года назад
I was in the SADF and fought in Angola in the 80's...All the equipment we captured was east German supplied. .I even have a east German helmet as a souvenir...
@jelicadujmovic9781
@jelicadujmovic9781 2 года назад
Were east german ak 47s better than other variants of ak??
@lorenzooliveira1157
@lorenzooliveira1157 2 года назад
Quite the find
@Silverstream-74
@Silverstream-74 2 года назад
Wonder what the helmet would be worth . I saw a soviet helmet the otherday in a local store for 900 zar
@hairydogstail
@hairydogstail 2 года назад
The communist and socialist won and are in control of the western nations today re-named woke liberalism..
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr 2 года назад
Did you know breytenbach? My old swaar was in 32 buffalo.
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns 2 года назад
The Cold War in Africa was one big mess that most of us in the West know little about.
@Tom-uk2ow
@Tom-uk2ow 2 года назад
They still going,maybe even more than before..
@Alexx120493
@Alexx120493 2 года назад
I feel bad for the South Africans and Rhodesians that got fucked up by East and West collectively just because neither of them knew that there was no chance of political stability and economic prosperity under majority rule
@pawelnowak9440
@pawelnowak9440 2 года назад
@@Tom-uk2ow with chinese debt trap
@Tom-uk2ow
@Tom-uk2ow 2 года назад
@@pawelnowak9440 cmon,they own to west for thousand years,keep been indoctrinated....China give something,what shitty west left..Nothing
@rotergeist9509
@rotergeist9509 2 года назад
@@pawelnowak9440 as opposed to the jevvish debt trap? Lol
@SafariPilot
@SafariPilot 2 года назад
They also had a large presence in Zanzibar, the Stazi having trained the local secret police and the East German government having a consulate/embassy on the island. I believe some of the earlier patrol boats of the revolutionary Zanzibar government were from East Germany. Even today there are strong ties between Tanzania and Germany in regards to military training and support.
@等閒之輩
@等閒之輩 2 года назад
Deutsch-Ostafrika
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 2 года назад
They use to be a German colony
@SafariPilot
@SafariPilot 2 года назад
@@tomhenry897 Tanganyika was Zanzibar never was German.
@SafariPilot
@SafariPilot 2 года назад
@Peter T yes East Germany offered aid to Zanzibar from 1964 till 1971 when they were pushed out by the government of the mainland which had close ties to West Germany.
@chaoskarlos987
@chaoskarlos987 2 года назад
*stasi
@holgere.
@holgere. 2 года назад
I used to serve from 1987 to 90 at the officer school of the GDR air defense forces in the town of Kamenz near Dresden. I remember that there were always students from Mocambique, Angola, North Korea and other nations outside the Warsaw Pact within our compound. Contact with them was actively discouraged but occasionally happened nevertheless. I remember taking one N. Korean student out with our group for some Saturday night enjoyment. It completely unsettled the guy's world view. He was appealing to us to stop this 'capitalist decadence'. But I think he secretly enjoyed. Probably went straight into a 're-education' camp upon his return to his country...
@magr7424
@magr7424 2 года назад
Krasse Geschichte! Danke fürs teilen
@holgere.
@holgere. 2 года назад
@@magr7424 Gern. Das war Ende 89. Die Nordkoreaner haben damals ihren Lehrgang nicht beendet und wurden vorzeitig repatriiert.
@kuriboh635
@kuriboh635 2 года назад
My father served in the US army from 85 to about 89 and was stationed close to the east west border. He has always said if he went back to Germany he would rather see the east because he wasn't able to. I've aways been curious about east Germany, especially having grown up after the wall came down it still is weird to know there where 2 different geman nations just a hand full of years before I was born in 1997. Also thank you for your story I definitely found it very enjoyable I'll have to tell my dad, he will get a kick out of it.
@bruhism173
@bruhism173 2 года назад
Concentration camp, say it
@sven_86
@sven_86 2 года назад
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing!
@hakimcameldriver
@hakimcameldriver 2 года назад
When i was in the Bundeswehr, we faced a lot of East German troops, Soviet bloc troops. The Sargent told us not to worry about thd Polish troopers, they would start shooting RUSSIANS the minute they got live ammo in their guns.. but in 1984 our life expectancy was only minutes if they DID NOT USE NUKES.. Panzergrenadier...
@troutwarrior6735
@troutwarrior6735 2 года назад
That’s amazing. . . I don’t doubt it one bit
@morrisbuschmeier2047
@morrisbuschmeier2047 2 года назад
Well, I heard the internal German border shootings were conducted by the soviet troops inEast German uniforms. Just heard.
@retrogamer7571
@retrogamer7571 2 года назад
Dran drauf drüber
@steverosario5962
@steverosario5962 2 года назад
They ( the polish) would had done it too!
@kevinstrade2752
@kevinstrade2752 2 года назад
I remember it was estimated that NATO troops would have lasted only 2 weeks during a conventional war with the Warsaw Pact.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад
I've read that during the "Prague Spring" of 1968 the Russians considered sending East German troops into Czechoslovakia to assist in crushing Alexander Dubchek's freedom movement but decided against it. They were concerned over what the Czech "Look who's back!" reaction to German troops was likely to be so forgot about that option pretty quickly.
@holgere.
@holgere. 2 года назад
Yes, GDR troups were there, as I was told by someone who was there. As he told me, only medical units participated.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад
@@holgere. Interesting! This is the first I've heard of that! Thanks!
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад
@@aranos6269 Thanks! I didn't know that!
@Cyan_Nightingale
@Cyan_Nightingale 2 года назад
@@aranos6269 Yep.. especially their 1960s police force. Looks exactly like a Wehrmacht uniform
@teutonalex
@teutonalex 2 года назад
Correct. Also they were concerned about Polish sentiments as well since the DDR troops were massing on that border.
@Vivacious_Lenin
@Vivacious_Lenin 2 года назад
the Stasi was not an extension of the Gestapo. Many of the founders of the Stasi were veterans of the Spanish civil war who fought the nazis.
@redwingrob1036
@redwingrob1036 2 года назад
INSULTING orthodox Western BS about the DDR & the Stasi! AT least the DDR was not like (West) GERMany today, about to be placed under martial law.
@debirhinehart585
@debirhinehart585 10 месяцев назад
Kurt Schumacher, an early politician in west Germany said that a communist is nothing more than a Nazi painted red.
@ClarenceCochran-ne7du
@ClarenceCochran-ne7du 7 месяцев назад
They were the East German version of the KGB. Current Russian President Vladimir Putin was a KGB Liaison Officer stationed to advise and observe with the Stasi. The Stasi were granted independence from direct Moscow control in 1957. Very few policy changes Moscow sent out, the Stasi usually followed through with as well. During the occupation of Berlin after the war, the KGB actively recruited former Nazi Gestapo agents to the Stasi. Most accepted, as there was very little work available to them.
@Kannot2023
@Kannot2023 7 месяцев назад
They learned from Gestapo and NKVD/KGB
@tilohertel8523
@tilohertel8523 2 месяца назад
Well Gestapo agents were unemployed after the end of Nazi Germany. I could imagine they were possibly hired in the beginning, yet later a de-Nazification started in the NVA, removing former Wehrmacht Generals. General Paulus still taught at Dresden Military academy, but many others had to quit. It is only logical that the same process took place in the Ministry of State Security.
@ilhamrahim9269
@ilhamrahim9269 2 года назад
1:18 oh yes the US led “democratic side” like the dictator Mobutu in Congo!!!!
@SchwarzeBananen
@SchwarzeBananen 2 года назад
To call the Stasi an extension of the Gestapo is quite wrong, although it sounds sensational. The Stasi was much more an extension of the KGB.
@jussim.konttinen4981
@jussim.konttinen4981 2 года назад
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact part II.
@raymondtonns2521
@raymondtonns2521 2 года назад
they were all birds of a feather ,TYRANTS
@redwingrob1036
@redwingrob1036 2 года назад
DAIL WAIL & the Daily Express Cold War BS...
@frankgerlach4467
@frankgerlach4467 11 месяцев назад
Indeed. The MfS was a TSHEKA extension. They worshipped the murderer Tshershinsky.
@atticlight9048
@atticlight9048 2 года назад
Many years ago I read something to the effect that the Russian advisors in Africa, especially when they were drunk, would cause great offense to the Africans with tactless and often blatantly racist comments. So the Eastern Bloc policy became one of sending East Germans instead who were specially trained so as not to offend African sensibilities.
@liammeech3702
@liammeech3702 2 года назад
They couldn't find a single polite, Russian officer? Sounds like a joke in the making.
@semdavidanger
@semdavidanger Год назад
Oh,. My,.
@vladimirnikolskiy
@vladimirnikolskiy Год назад
My God, what nonsense! You've probably watched Hollywood Rambo movies too often.
@atticlight9048
@atticlight9048 Год назад
@@vladimirnikolskiy Listen up, cheeki breeki...I read this in one of England's most serious and respected newspapers 'The Daily Telegraph'. A long time ago now, but I find it entirely plausible. I also read that black African students who tried to date Russian girls were given a hard time of it by the KGB. Facts don't stop being facts just because they offend some people.'
@lukasmadrid1945
@lukasmadrid1945 13 дней назад
​@@atticlight9048i hope your being ironic about the torygraph
@ericchristopher1687
@ericchristopher1687 2 года назад
There's a great book by Markus Wolf, who was the head of East German Intelligence services for 34 years, titled The Man Without a Face. Besides the spy versus spy action during the Cold War, he also writes extensively about the DDR's role in African and Middle Eastern countries. He doesn't shy away from harsh truths and provides a unique perspective on life behind the Iron Curtain.
@einbucherwurm8039
@einbucherwurm8039 2 года назад
But if you read this, you have to consider that he was a former member of the ministry of state security. And in this position, not all of them he had written/told is "true" or completely believable. Wolf wasn't a historian, that writes as objective and crtitcal as possible about this topic.
@mikevismyelement
@mikevismyelement 2 года назад
@@einbucherwurm8039 yes, only trust the official sources. Anything else has to be propaganda
@lutho7693
@lutho7693 2 года назад
Ah yes, I actually read the book!
@cooldudicus7668
@cooldudicus7668 2 года назад
I will order that book and read it. Thanks for the info.
@semdavidanger
@semdavidanger Год назад
Oh,. My,.
@Mr_M_History
@Mr_M_History 2 года назад
Armchair Historian and Mark Felton doing Africa on back to back days. What a win for all history enthusiasts!
@jackmiller1561
@jackmiller1561 2 года назад
Would be the hat trick if you did one on them too. Love the China stuff!
@AssasinatorBros
@AssasinatorBros 2 года назад
I know right!!!!
@Roadglide911
@Roadglide911 2 года назад
He’s far from being an armchair historian.
@larrylongprong5219
@larrylongprong5219 2 года назад
I wonder how dr Felton went in his school cross country?
@chroniccrypto5621
@chroniccrypto5621 2 года назад
Unfortunately in America history lessons will soon be abolished, as the fascist right ends our democracy and abolishes public education leaving it up to the parents to teach their kids everything. The US is on a one way path back to the 1800s, and these fascist Christian extremist will control the most powerful military in the world and use them to commit mass genocide in the states then other countries.
@MyTv-
@MyTv- Год назад
To be honest the west didn’t support democrats outside Europe, preferring right wing dictators and junta’s.
@phrajilman
@phrajilman Год назад
It's kinda wild comparing funding anti colonial movements like the MPLA or SWAPO to the Nazis
@willemventer3935
@willemventer3935 2 года назад
As far as I know there were both russian and east german advisors with cuban combat troops in angola during the SWA /RSA bush war.
@wolfgollnitz899
@wolfgollnitz899 2 года назад
It is my understanding that the East Germans were mostly in a training capacity relating to Intelligence, Russians in a military advisory role (which resulted that some were in the vicinity where military action occurred and therefore some casualties on their side), and the Cubans were heavily participating in military action with by far the highest of number of participants from the Communist Block countries.
@hububö
@hububö 2 года назад
@@wolfgollnitz899 i recently meet a former russian sniper of the sowjet army who was working in angola when he was 19 ... they where mainly training local militia but also involved in gathering intelligence and monitoring the chokepoints of the conflict back then ... Officially they where not allowed to participate in any fighting - he told me there where several incendents involving russian troops when they whitnessed massacres on the local population in small remote villages while monitoring a area of military interest - he and his collegues killed several attackers from far away just because they couldnt hold back anymore after beeing witness to such atrocities for months without beeing allowed to do anything - obviously this resulted in severe punishment for him and his comrades including several months of military prison and dishonorable discharge.
@willemventer3935
@willemventer3935 2 года назад
@@wolfgollnitz899 The South africans kicked the cubans asses, in spite of cuban propaganda.
@PublicDomainArchive1
@PublicDomainArchive1 2 года назад
@@willemventer3935 the South Africans withdraw from Angola and gave up control of Namibia. Clearly the actions of a victorious military power 🙄
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 2 года назад
Not exactly what happened. South Africa successfully defended its borders but had a new internal threat, the commie Mandela and his terrorist friends.
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 2 года назад
One of my friends is a veteran of 32 Battalion in the SADF. He was a lieutenant back then. According to him, they did sometimes encounter East German and Soviet soldiers in ambushes they laid for the Angolans, behind enemy lines. (This unit was responsible for 50% of the casualties South Africa inflicted during the war). He now owns a restored UAZ 4x4. Says he shot up so many of them, he started wanting to get one. Edit: Correction, he bought a GAZ 69.
@PhansiKhongoloza
@PhansiKhongoloza 9 месяцев назад
​@freebeerfordworkers It interests me to read another story which mentions the fact the Cuban's were in Angola before the Portuguese withdrawal. The Cuban's, and others, have always claimed they intervened only after the South African "invasion" of 75 know as Op's Savannah. When in fact evidence has proven the new leftist Portuguese government had invited the Cuban's in to prop up the MPLA who the Portuguese wanted in power after they withdrew. Even though the MPLA was not the most popular party.
@johndellinger1569
@johndellinger1569 2 года назад
The first and only time the GDR participated in an international peace keeping mission under UN supervision was in Namibia 1989/90. A unit of 30 East German police observers was sent to support the Civil Police Component of UNTAG. West Germany also sent a contingent, and for a few months they served side-by-side with the East Germans at the police station in Ombalantu.
@liammeech3702
@liammeech3702 2 года назад
Did they get along?
@axbr9380
@axbr9380 2 года назад
@ Liam: brothers and cousins in arms
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV 2 года назад
Interesting part of history, I herd briefly about this before.
@Dinitrofluorbenzol
@Dinitrofluorbenzol 10 месяцев назад
@@liammeech3702 add good beer and that will happen everywhere
@Belisaur
@Belisaur 2 года назад
In the wild Geese I was always wondering why there are random Germans running round for Roger Moore to machine gun
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 года назад
Nostalgia.
@LukeBunyip
@LukeBunyip 2 года назад
The song "They walk in line" by the band Joy Division was inspired by a photo of a group of armed East German military advisors in Angola in the late 70s or early 80s.
@scottcharney1091
@scottcharney1091 2 года назад
I did not know that.
@lukasmadrid1945
@lukasmadrid1945 13 дней назад
Where did you hear that? I can't find that anywhere
@monarchist1838
@monarchist1838 2 года назад
In the 1978 war movie 'The Wild Geese', as Richard Burton's mercenaries seize the Zembala airport they encounter an East German army officer. As General Ndofa's 'Simbas' hunt them down, they are guided by East German instructors.
@sm70911
@sm70911 2 года назад
Cuban instructors
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 2 года назад
@@sm70911 there’s one Cuban instructor and two East German.
@jamesfields2916
@jamesfields2916 2 года назад
Awesome movie. Don't forget Roger Moore telling his guy to check the Cuban for keys.
@jamesfields2916
@jamesfields2916 2 года назад
That napalm bomb bouncing down the dry river bed was a great scene.
@AndyFromBeaverton
@AndyFromBeaverton 2 года назад
@@jamesfields2916 That was probably the smallest napalm bomb ever created for an airplane. Amazing how they made about 5 - 10 gallons blow up like 100 gallons.
@wirelessone2986
@wirelessone2986 2 года назад
The comments on this video are absolutely amazing and are as good or better than the video itself adding eye witness accounts and personal experience that are incredibly fascinating!
@cookingwithchefluc7173
@cookingwithchefluc7173 Год назад
My neighbor down the street was a Brigadier General in the Old South African Army and was part of many military operations in Angola and told me that there were many East Germans and other Eastern European soldiers who they were fighting against in Angola during the Bush War.
@mathiasbarkow8147
@mathiasbarkow8147 10 месяцев назад
There was only Personal from Cuba in Afrika in Military Action, Not one easter German Unit!
@joanaherold6320
@joanaherold6320 10 месяцев назад
@@mathiasbarkow8147 Hallo Mathias, ich habe persoenlich einen DDR gefangenen nach Pretoria begleitet. Ich wurde wohl ausgesucht, weil ich als deutsch Staemiger die Sprache beherschte. Es gab allerdings keine Unterhaltung. Es ist mir auch nicht bekannt wo und unter welchen Umstaenden er in Gefangenschaft kam. Ich bin laedglich im laetzten Moment zum Flughafen in Grootfontein im norden von Namibia gebracht worden
@gerdlunau8411
@gerdlunau8411 6 месяцев назад
To: @@joanaherold6320 It is most likely that you transferred a single East-German (even a military) person. We indeed had advisors there but never whole UNITS or TROOPS. This little country of the GDR could never effort to do so, see my comments recently (March 2024) above. While the civilian support in the Southern countries of Africa was really large, the military (personnel) support was quite small - besides other factors the GDR and its NVA lacked simply the resources. However, what happen to this person, was he returned to the GDR? Do you know? Peace! from Dresden / Germany
@julianb5844
@julianb5844 2 года назад
Was part of a signals unit that was made up of German and Portuguese speakers. Our main task was radio signal interception, disinformation and jamming. We were well aware of the heavy involvement of East Germany in Angola. The majority of Angolan MIG pilots trained in East Germany and radio comms was in German. There was no flight of MIGs that took off in Angola that we did not intercept radio comms including information about intended targets. Must have been frustrating to never find the convoys they were sent to bomb.
@henrykeyter53
@henrykeyter53 2 года назад
One of our neighbours is a second generation German. He fought at Cuito in the same role - among Portuguese refugees doing national service like him, sitting in an EV Ratel with a fake turret, listening in on enemy frequencies.
@JulianBeams
@JulianBeams 2 года назад
@@henrykeyter53 We used state-of-the-art equipment from Siemens. I was in equipment logistics and was tasked with making sure vehicles were properly equipped. There were various projects with interesting names, the only one I can remember now is "Beargrip". We use Ratels, Samil50 box-bodies and even Toyota Landcruisers - all stuffed to the gills with radios and towing their own gennies.
@henrykeyter53
@henrykeyter53 2 года назад
@@JulianBeams Oom Jörn said that their Ratel had a fibreglass turret so they had to be careful not to get shot at. Guess they tried to hide the fact that it was an Electronic Warfare vehicle by camouflaging it as a normal Ratel 90? I wouldn't know. But apparently they intercepted and translated enemy communications, the Portuguese guys translated the Angolan and Cuban messages and he was there in case they intercepted anything in German.
@JulianBeams
@JulianBeams 2 года назад
@@henrykeyter53 Our vehicles had no turret so that's interesting. The Ratels made a good platform though. Good grounding for the antennae. You couldn't miss them, they had antennae sticking up all over. There was also a hydraulic antenna bolted to the side that was raised as needed and the whole covered in camo net. That's exactly how I got into the unit, 5 Signals, BTW - I could speak really bad schoolboy German. When they realised I would make a bad translator, I was sent off to the office and ended up as a logistics NCO. Many friends from my sqaudron did rotations to Cuito and back. Usually for a specific op.
@rolha666
@rolha666 2 года назад
@@JulianBeams Thank you for your service , from a Portuguese citizen.
@gregoriochavez9881
@gregoriochavez9881 2 года назад
Its seems very disingenuous and frankly odd decision to call East German mutual aid and military support to African nations seeking liberation from European imperialism the same as that of the Nazis.
@Brecconable
@Brecconable 2 года назад
I don't considering A that nazis and commies are two sides of the same coin and B what the so-called freedom fighters got up to ie rape, murder, corruption, theft, in SA, Zim, the Congo, etc, etc.
@gregoriochavez9881
@gregoriochavez9881 2 года назад
@@Brecconable Sure there was corruption and atrocious actions in African liberation movements but that doesn't mean they were literally Nazis. If your take away from the second world war is, murder, rape, theft = Nazi, then I don't know what to tell you. War criminals, possibly. Nationalists, most definitely. But Nazis is a different description and frankly not apt. Bringing up imagery of a completely different series of conflicts is usually not very useful and serves to diminish the severity of one or the other. Also additionally Fascism and Socialism/Communism are very different things.
@archangelliii2536
@archangelliii2536 2 года назад
"Liberation" 😆😅🤣😂 Let's see. Oh I know, like the "liberation" brought about by the likes of Ili Amin or Muahmmar Khadafi or any of the...practically ALL African leaders fighting those "evil imperialist" Europeans to this very day right?? And how many Europeans were involved in the last genocide of the XX century? Oh that's right, I forgot, that was in Rwanda where one AFRICAN group mass murdered another AFRICAN group...no "imperialist Europeans" involved! That "liberation" is the one you're talking about???!!!!
@kfraser3783
@kfraser3783 2 года назад
You should do more videos on the East German NVA.
@Emdee5632
@Emdee5632 2 года назад
In fact Mark Felton already did a couple of videos about the military legacy of Nazi Germany - the Bundeswehr and the NVA.
@redwingrob1036
@redwingrob1036 2 года назад
MORE Cold War stuff period!
@bastisonnenkind
@bastisonnenkind 2 года назад
Little errata: Erich Honnecker was not the president of the GDR. He was (among other things) the "President of the Council of State" for over 20 years. The only one who got the title "President" was Wilhelm Pieck.
@dpt6849
@dpt6849 2 года назад
And boss of Dynamo Berlin.
@bomeesc7480
@bomeesc7480 2 года назад
@@dpt6849 that was mielke
@hanno-erdmanntietz8424
@hanno-erdmanntietz8424 2 года назад
@@dpt6849 The SV ('Sportvereinigung') Dynamo was led by Erich Mielke. He (not Honecker) was President of this umbrella sports organisation. The SV comprised several clubs, such as SC Dynamo Berlin - the biggest of them all -, SG Dynamo Dresden (football), FSC Dynamo Eilenburg (parachuting) and many more.
@dpt6849
@dpt6849 2 года назад
@@bomeesc7480 thanks
@dpt6849
@dpt6849 2 года назад
@@hanno-erdmanntietz8424 thanks
@debirhinehart585
@debirhinehart585 10 месяцев назад
An acquaintance of mine was a former South African Air Force pilot who was involved in the South African covert operations in Angola and he said most of the Mig 21s were flown by Cuban "volunteers " who were utterly incompetent. However, the South Africans had to always be on guard as when flying missions deep in Angola they came up against very competent and aggressive Mig 21 pilots who if you weren't very careful would blow you out of the sky. It turned out that these Mig 21 pilots were East Germans.
@SH-ud8wd
@SH-ud8wd 2 года назад
"Kongo Otto" would be a nice topic for an episode. The German Democratic Rebublic was desperately looking for cheap coffee to import and oranges, bananas etc. for the east german population, that demanded it urgently, especially during christmas time.
@flimsedom
@flimsedom 2 года назад
Not to forget that East Germany also printed the banknotes for Angola and Mocambique.
@u.e.u.e.
@u.e.u.e. 2 года назад
Uiuiui There were some inaccuracies involved: - Walter Ulbricht and Erich Honecker had never been presidents of the GDR. The only president of the GDR was Wilhelm Pieck who served from 1949 to 1960. After that the function of the "head of state" became a collective one of the Staatsrat (state council). Walter Ulbricht and Erich Honecker were chairmen of this council. - I doubt the numbers of 2,500 to 5,000 regular NVA troups on the African continent. The GDR didn't need that. The military education happened for example in Prora/Rügen. - 5:59 These are not East German uniforms. Nobody in the Warsaw Treaty wore baseball caps and sunglasses, never ever. These are western troups. The tank rolls too fast for recognition, but I have doubts that it is a T64 or T72 of Soviet production.
@uncletimo6059
@uncletimo6059 2 года назад
it is very hard for a "westerner" with no experience of commie country to understand that the title of "president" or "minister" is much less than "general secretary of the communist party". at 6:00, those are probably executive outcomes guys
@u.e.u.e.
@u.e.u.e. 2 года назад
@@uncletimo6059 Titles in a dictionary system (right or left) are a chapter of its own. 😂 Yes, some are title collectors. Erich Honecker was one of them. LOL But what do you mean with "executive outcome guys"? English isn't my native language. 🤪
@uncletimo6059
@uncletimo6059 2 года назад
@@u.e.u.e. executive outcomes was a south african private military company i.e. mercenaries. very famous.
@u.e.u.e.
@u.e.u.e. 2 года назад
@@uncletimo6059 That's rather possible than NVA troups. 😉
@einbucherwurm8039
@einbucherwurm8039 2 года назад
Thank you for making these corrections. I saw the video and i doubt the accuracy of some key points of mr. Felton too. (Unfortunatly, this is not the first time that he has done less accurate research and create some lurid stories like the "BILD"-Newspaper. I'm thinking of the case with the Tiger and the german tank museum in munster for example)
@Pfromm007
@Pfromm007 2 года назад
My dad said that when he took the train from West Germany to East Germany, it would stop for 2 hours while they went through everyone's stuff. Then an announcement was made, "Those who wish to move their residence from West Germany to East Germany are now asked to step off the train." Everyone looked! :D But nobody ever got off :
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 2 года назад
Except Angela Merkel's family, and her, aged 2, lol. They were amongst a very small minority of West Germans who defected to the East. There was a actually a centre in the GDR where they were held for a couple of months to run security checks (to ensure they were not BND agents) before they commenced their new life in the workers' paradise.
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 2 года назад
I once saw a docu about West Germans moving to East Germany. In most cases it was ideology or simply love that moved them east. The procedure for those immigrants was that they got locked up in an estate, regular interview by detectives of the Kripo and in the end by the Stasi. They lost their possessions to the state, such as their cars. The East Germans were very afraid that they imported problem cases, such as criminals or people in debt.
@binaway
@binaway 2 года назад
@@mardiffv.8775 Where possible the East German Foreign Intelligence services used their identity and documents for agents it sent into the West.
@liammeech3702
@liammeech3702 2 года назад
@@mardiffv.8775 what, including their clothes as well?
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 2 года назад
@@liammeech3702 Haha, that is good one. No. there allowed by the East German Authorities to wear their cloths, but I am talking about West Marks and cars that the East Germans took away from them.
@OldEastGermany
@OldEastGermany 2 года назад
Funny East German Army had damn similarities with the world class Prussian Wehrmacht.
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo 2 года назад
@Gefreiter Carter "We considered ourselves the true successor of the Reich and were allowed to keep in some way or form our military doctrin" - You were nothing of the sort. Führen mit Auftrag central to the Wehrmacht success was completely foreign to the centralized-command Russian-led puppet state military forces. You were a German-speaking extension of the Red Army.
@dannya1854
@dannya1854 2 года назад
I get the temptation to link the Gestapo to the Stasi, but to declare the Stasi was an extension of the Gestapo as a matter of fact is rather unprofessional and misleading.
@rickrudd
@rickrudd 2 года назад
"Let us help you overthrow your colonial chains so you can be subservient to Moscow!"
@Freyja_M4106
@Freyja_M4106 2 года назад
I live in Dresden Germany. Recently i was sitting at a bar, and i was spinning a Military challenge coin in my hand. The old man next to me saw it and showed me his East German/Soviet Dog Tag hanging on his neck, and he said Afrika. It confussed me, i didn't think they went anywhere. Thank You for this vid, it explanes a bit. A funny note, i have alot of nerve damage and i shake a bit. At one point i was spinning my coin in my hand (an excercise for fine motor control) and i dropped it. Those coins certainly make a sound lol. That old soldier pointed to the STRING around his kneck holding his dog tags, and i told him (in German) "I don't need those, I know my name"...
@abderu.6947
@abderu.6947 2 года назад
Really nice story, its a shame we don’t hear allot about some veterans from lesser known conflicts as they unfortunately grow older. Would love to hear his story for example. Also i was in Dresden (neustadt) for a few weeks keeping company to a very sick friend. Its an incredibly nice and peaceful city. My friend called it and the german saxony the pearl of the east.
@jelicadujmovic9781
@jelicadujmovic9781 2 года назад
Its for your body when you cant say your name man hahaha
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE 2 года назад
@@jelicadujmovic9781 It was an example of american arrogance, but what can be expected from americans?
@RoyRogerer
@RoyRogerer 2 года назад
You should watch the Deutschland 83/86/89 series. It's a TV show revolving around an east german spy in those respective years, each year representing one season of the show. Though the last season certainly suffers in quality, it is entertaining in showing different east german governmental involvement in these years, and weaves historic events into the story. in Deutschland 86, they actually depict the East German involvement in Angola, and South African Apartheid movement. That's when I first heard about their involvement.
@Freyja_M4106
@Freyja_M4106 2 года назад
@@abderu.6947 Probably the more interesting part of his story would be growing up gay in the DDR
@SeamusMartin1
@SeamusMartin1 2 года назад
I think that surviving officers of the Stasi would be absolutely ideologically outraged to hear their organisation described as an extension of the wartime Gestapo!
@juniatapark54
@juniatapark54 2 года назад
You don't have to be a veteran, or even from the GDR, to think it was ridiculous to describe the Stasi as an extension of the Gestapo.
@jussim.konttinen4981
@jussim.konttinen4981 2 года назад
Fair enough. One "Sicherheitsdienst" lieutenant was interrogated in Finland in 1950. Probably, nothing was found because the Allied Commission had left in 1947. Also, recidivism was unlikely, so he was released. This person is interesting because his photo cannot be found on the internet. Maybe it's in the National Archives or with relatives. Later, he became wealthy as the CEO of the Private Entrepreneurs Insurance Company.
@johnkingeef855
@johnkingeef855 2 года назад
In the early stages of forming the MfS (stasi) it was strictly out of bounds for former gestapo or personnel with an NSDAP background.
@SeamusMartin1
@SeamusMartin1 2 года назад
@@johnkingeef855 That doesn't surprise me. Of course, it had to be composed strictly of true believers.
@Brecconable
@Brecconable 2 года назад
@@juniatapark54 They were not really that different when you look at what they did.
@garybuchner
@garybuchner 2 года назад
As a South African who fought the war in Angola and again on the Zimbabwe border, this video really hit home. It might be worthwhile exploring the SADF at the time, one of the best armies in the world during that specific bush War.
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV 2 года назад
Yes during that time, the South African Military was considered top notch effective and capable. Even today, the South African mobile wheeled Howitzers are considered to be amongst the most effective, best in the world.
@dannya1854
@dannya1854 2 года назад
Pretty sure South Africa lost that war against Angola.
@Andrewsky347
@Andrewsky347 2 года назад
@@dannya1854 I don't really think it's fair to say that. It was ended with negotiations. The South Africans got the Cubans to leave Angola and they let Namibia go independent. Strangely the South African negotiators were supposed to be on the Lockerbie Pan Am flight that got shot down, but they decided to take an earlier flight.
@gerhardjacobs8796
@gerhardjacobs8796 2 года назад
@@dannya1854 Before you say that South Africa lost the war maybe you should have a deeper look at what South Africa wanted to achieve in Angola and maybe that will change your opinion
@epartnersuk
@epartnersuk Год назад
@@dannya1854 I don't remember the Angolans MPLA walking into South Africa, or that they defeated Unita? It was a stalemate and everybody decided it was too expensive to keep fighting the battle.
@polyglot8
@polyglot8 2 года назад
Many of the comments on Mark Felton's WWII videos begin with "My grandfather was there," or "My father was there." As Dr. Felton increasingly posts clips that encroach on a more contemporary timeline, many comments now begin with, "I was there."
@jayjohnson166
@jayjohnson166 2 года назад
There needs to be similar video about North Koreans in Africa and elsewhere. I had always heard they ran the logistics for Soviet expansionist operations.
@swanaldronson7615
@swanaldronson7615 2 года назад
They took on an active role in Zimbabwe in the early 80s where they trained the 5th brigade to carry out the Gukurahundi genocide.
@ottovonbismarck2443
@ottovonbismarck2443 2 года назад
3:59 These helmets were a very late German WW2 design, supposedly to be used by the Waffen-SS. As for Imperial German genocides in Africa: Germany made "good" use of colonial troops. It was literally black people (under white command) killing other black people. This has been a well proven concept for all imperial powers around the globe. Black colonial soldiers saw themselves proudly as "the Kaiser's soldiers" and at one point (in the 1960s or 70s ???) the surviving veterans received a small one-time pension by the BRD. Stasi wasn't an extension of Gestapo; it was an heir. Another proven concept ...
@die1mayer
@die1mayer 2 года назад
Germany got all the blame for imperialism and colonialism. Nobody cares that the british exploited 2/3 of the world.
@drharnsaft1005
@drharnsaft1005 2 года назад
The Herero and Nama genocide was not done by local troops. Those were losing against the rebelling Herero so Lothar von Trotha was dispatched from Germany, he and his troops did most of the killing including driving all Herero into the desert and placing machine guns at water holes.
@DaveG1963
@DaveG1963 2 года назад
Wow! Spent three years in the Berlin Brigade in 4/502nd Infantry Regiment and never knew this about East Germans Afrikan Corps! As always very informative and well done!
@adlerarmory8382
@adlerarmory8382 2 года назад
Hey Brother! I was B Co 4/502d Feb 89 to Dec 90 then went back Oct 91 to Jun 94 with C Co 6/502nd, went on the Operation Able-Sentry UNPROFOR deployment.
@SGobuck
@SGobuck 2 года назад
So what was a typical day for the Berlin brigade?
@DaveG1963
@DaveG1963 2 года назад
@@SGobuck depended upon if you were doing ceremonies, in the field training, on the range qualifying, Spandau Prison rotation guarding Hess for a month, Clay Headquarters guard detail, Quick Reaction Platoon, there was a myrid of things on a regular timeframe of when you did all of these things.. It was an outstanding assignment.
@DaveG1963
@DaveG1963 2 года назад
@@adlerarmory8382 small world! I left in March of 1988, pcs'd stateside to Ft. Myer. I could have extended my tour in Berlin, and didnt then the wall came down in 1989, would have been a great time to have been in Berlin to see that happen.
@DaveG1963
@DaveG1963 2 года назад
@@TheVerinen2 you were worth it my friend!
@ohneMofa007
@ohneMofa007 2 года назад
East German Africa Korps, I am German and I was not aware of this historical detail, greetings from Berlin Germany 🇩🇪
@duicic8541
@duicic8541 2 года назад
The name was nicked from a 1980s „Der Spiegel“ cover story, although the various training missions were never formally organized into one unit like the actual Afrika Korps.
@KonradAdenauerJr
@KonradAdenauerJr 2 года назад
In Ethiopia, the Stasi advised the secret police of the Mengistu Haile Mariam regime. One thing they taught their Ethiopian counterparts was the keeping of meticulous records. After the Mengistu regime was removed from power, Ethiopian prosecutors had a field day finding signed execution lists and other incriminating documents...
@djkyzr7660
@djkyzr7660 2 года назад
I would really like a video on the Congo crises in the 60’s and the use of mercenaries during that especially with former British army officer mike hoare and former ss officer siegfried muller please dr felton
@wolfgangwust5883
@wolfgangwust5883 2 года назад
Yeah, Kongo-Müller.
@juniatapark54
@juniatapark54 2 года назад
There were also African civilian students and trainees studying in the GDR. In large cities like Berlin and Dresden and even in Harz mountain towns.
@iainmcclure416
@iainmcclure416 2 года назад
Absolutely vital point. These foreign scholarships in Warsaw Pact countries created enormous goodwill in Africa - and also networks of affiliation and cooperation. The West should be educating the elite / future leadership of the developing nations as deliberate policy.
@jussim.konttinen4981
@jussim.konttinen4981 2 года назад
People complain about Stasi being extension of Gestapo. DDR was a one-party dictatorship. I don't speak English as a native language. However, according to the dictionary, extension also means bonus number. Sounds right to me.
@berlinwhite
@berlinwhite 2 года назад
There were actually 5 parties in the GDR. The MfS was in no way an extension of Gestapo (unlike the BND, which was basically the Nazi´s Fremde Heere Ost). Original MfS staff were mainly communists who'd been in exile or jail/camps under the Nazis. In other words: the sort of people the Gestapo persecuted (and in many cases tortured and killed).
@sebastianriemer1777
@sebastianriemer1777 2 года назад
I worked with many ex NVA officers during my service and I was really impressed by their skills. The thought of fighting against those guys was very sobering. They had a pretty low opinion of the Russian army though, looks like they were correct.
@simonriley4131
@simonriley4131 2 года назад
I first thought you meant the 'North Vietnamese Army', good thing i held my tongue till I watched further on, hah
@Handassov
@Handassov 2 года назад
Privet hohol
@barbarapitenthusiast7103
@barbarapitenthusiast7103 2 года назад
@@simonriley4131 north vietnam based GI removers
@simonriley4131
@simonriley4131 2 года назад
@@barbarapitenthusiast7103 omegabased freedom fighters and liberators of Cambodia
@jaypeedesuyo662
@jaypeedesuyo662 7 месяцев назад
Low opinion on what? Russia today or USSR? Both are not the same. Also, The comment of yours does not age well. Lol
@drupiROM
@drupiROM 2 года назад
The more i learn about history. The more i think it should be taught backwards in schools. From the present day all the way back to the stone age. Not the other way around. How are young people supposed to make sense of the world they live in if they don't know what happened 30-40 years ago.
@danieleziaco7092
@danieleziaco7092 2 года назад
Would be confusing as hell, half if not all the action that the various countries took that lead to WW2 was in result of WW1, you can't comprehend the motives behind WW2 without previous knowledge of WW1
@swanaldronson7615
@swanaldronson7615 2 года назад
30-40 years is even too recent. I listened to a history of the Anglo-Zulu war and the events (ie up to 200 years prior to that) and the perspective it showed on modern day events in South Africa was incredible. The problem is, where to stop? We can't all be historians.
@downhill-dirtjump-owl1484
@downhill-dirtjump-owl1484 2 года назад
My mom was born in Rhodesia and left age 18 after the war was lost. Many of her friends was killed by the guerillas ( she calls them terrorist ). Very interesting Video dr felton
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 2 года назад
The Rhodesians called them terrs. My neighbour in Ireland is Rhodesian and I love listening to his stories over a beer.
@henrykeyter53
@henrykeyter53 2 года назад
They were terrorists. They fought a war of terror.
@Balthorium
@Balthorium 2 года назад
They were terrorists and shot down civilian airliners shooting the survivors.
@slimdiddyd
@slimdiddyd 2 года назад
They were terrorists. Long live Rhodesia.
@mazambane286
@mazambane286 2 года назад
That's because they were terrorists.
@oliverleisten2601
@oliverleisten2601 2 года назад
I went to boarding school in Blantyre, Malawi and remember having colleagues who were sons of engineers building the Cabora Basa dam across the Zambezi river. Of course that is in Mozambique. This was at the same time as the Rhodesian war. It is sometimes said that the ZANU side was supported by the PRC. I think that it must have been more complicated than this. I would not be surprised if there was some East German security forces protecting the dam-building and power distribution projects?
@camdavey5073
@camdavey5073 2 года назад
you’re spot on! The PRC are responsible for ZANU; however the training they provided was very rudimentary and subpar. That’s why the RDF were so capable as a vastly undermanned, yet highly trained defence force. In the end it became a war of attrition and the Rhodesians were just outnumbered too harshly.
@colinm2056
@colinm2056 2 года назад
If I'm not mistaken some died in Mozambique in clashes with Rhodesia. Currently south africa's anc regime is driving the country to a economic collapse & racial & civil war.
@Manco65
@Manco65 2 года назад
Well I had a friend, lost contact after college, since his family came to the USA in the late 70's. .They had to flee Angola then Mozambique and then from England for a job his father had as a professor here in the states. His father feared what would happen to them since he was educated; most likely killed. They were native Africans. So much for international brotherhood and enlightenment under communism eh?
@kuoseis
@kuoseis 2 года назад
There is this tv series called Deutschland 83 (also 86 and 89) and it tells about this topic (86 in particular). Very interesting show, one of my favourites.
@mrmohod
@mrmohod 2 года назад
@Gefreiter Carter služili su ali su im činovi smanjeni za dva tri stupnja
@epartnersuk
@epartnersuk Год назад
It was very good
@rootin222
@rootin222 2 года назад
East Germany is based Germany
@muharremdemiraydn7766
@muharremdemiraydn7766 2 года назад
Based on what
@rootin222
@rootin222 2 года назад
@@muharremdemiraydn7766 its rep
@rc59191
@rc59191 2 года назад
Man those East German Army uniforms and helmets are really cool got a couple of them in my collection.
@rc59191
@rc59191 Год назад
@Alexander Capanov got the helmet for 40 bucks at my local pawnshop. The raindrop camo pattern uniform was like 20 bucks for the blouse and pants.
@jussim.konttinen4981
@jussim.konttinen4981 2 года назад
Finland still have thousands of East German weapons that are used for the personal self-defense of tank drivers. I'm not sure what they do with the extra weapons. Perhaps, arming provincial troops and civilians against partisans. At least that's what they did in the 1940s.
@royboy9361
@royboy9361 2 года назад
Dr. Felton’s videos may not cure Alzheimer’s, but it can’t hurt. Thanks for Monday’s history lesson!
@thagrifster594
@thagrifster594 2 года назад
Love the content. Would like to see more about East Germany. Thanks
@petermeter9890
@petermeter9890 2 года назад
Yes, me too
@carlinglin7289
@carlinglin7289 2 года назад
Interesting. I'm currently reading about the battle on the Lomba River (1987) near the end of the South African "Bush Wars." The author mentions that in addition to Cuban troops and Russian generals the Angolans had NVA advisers. Does say much about them other than that they were there.
@MarxAlex
@MarxAlex 2 года назад
Pretty much entire eastern block represented. It was amazing SA managed to grind out a stalemate . You should read battle of cuito cuanaavale by Leopold scholz. Very balanced. Another good one is battle of cassinga by mike McWilliams. SWAPO to this day does not ack knowledge it was a military base. Another good one is iron fist from the sea by douw steyn . Gunship ace by AJ Venter is excellent and showed up the absolute corruption by Nigeria during Sierra Leone intervention.
@Dickie6990
@Dickie6990 2 года назад
A small nitpick: Neither Ulbricht nor Honecker were ever Presidents of East Germany. Kinda like in the Soviet Union the head of government of the GDR was the General Secretary of the party. The only President of East Germany in history was Wilhelm Pieck, who held the office for 11 years before it was abolished following his death.
@franklindrebin00
@franklindrebin00 2 года назад
Korrekt, Genosse Kamerad 😉✊
@CA999
@CA999 2 года назад
In the west we feel our prime Ministers and presidents are puppets too! (Or Muppets in satire!)
@IstanbulBlue
@IstanbulBlue 2 года назад
Really important bullet points in this video and some equally important breadcrumbs in the comments. The "matrix" of Stasi/HVA, KGB & GRU, and Cuban DGI activities in this time period is always fascinating. There are multiple PhD topics and books contained herein. There are also critical inferences & "lessons learned" in considering Latin America. The same "cast of characters" of HVA, KGB + GRU and DGI, but in this instance lead by the Cubans created a "parallel blaybook" lead by the DGI's Piniero (aka Red Beard), almost the same exact time period. Today this "play book" is being replicated by a familiar cast: Cuba, Russia, China & Iran (& Hezbollah) from Venezuela (Bolivarianism) in alliance with the remainders of the previous era's Leftists from Argentina to Central America. The shades of gray are unique to today's realities; but the networks, both political and criminal, are an inheritance from the past. It's a "Manwarrring reality" of transnational criminal networks, gangs, radical Shia Islamists (ie Hezbollah), transnational drug cartels, money laundromats, and intelligence services creating with many of the same objectives and similar rhetoric of the past ("Resistance" movements). The tactical and operational playbook alludes to above in Dr Felton's "East Afrika Corps" goes all the way back to the formation of the GDR, the Stasi's external department- the HVA, working arm-in-arm with Cuban DGI - all with the approval, mentorship, material support, and strategic directives of the Soviet Union.
@johnkingeef855
@johnkingeef855 2 года назад
Could you recommend me some titles please? Would love to read more about this matter. Thanks in advance!
@joeystonehouse8768
@joeystonehouse8768 2 года назад
I encourage you to share any titles you think are worth reading
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 года назад
@@johnkingeef855 Marginally related, but interesting all the same is Vitaly Naumkin's 2004 "Red Wolves Of "Yemen - The Struggle For Independence" The book is even more interesting than a mere scholarly work, since it's from an anti-West perspective of the, at least ideological, string-pullers. The East-German army & its stasi-kommissarat were also heavily present in South Yemen, before & after the foundation of the Democratic Republic Of Yemen(South Yemen) in 1967, & its war from 1972 on against the Yemen Arab Republic(North Yemen). Not many news seeped out of SY which was the only avowedly-red Arab state. In 1981, without fanfare it was announced that comrade Ali Nasser Mohammed had replaced comrade Abdul Ismail Fatah as sec-gen of the ruling red party. It seemed that under comrade Fatah, the entirely soviet-dominated state had conceded too many fishing rights to the soviets. So comrade Nasser Mohammed replaced him among other reasons. & in January 1986 all red hell broke loose in Aden when comrade Fatah called at the presidential palace to reclaim his throne from comrade Nasser Mohammed. The fighting was so no-holds-barred that one Japanese freighter, upon entering port was fired upon by shore batteries(of indeterminate party) & by a warship(of indeterminate party) when the Nipponese retreated to sea. The trigger-crazy situation couldn't be appeased even by the soviets who had to be evacuated Baltic'45-style by Western ships from a blazing Aden-the-red. The score was edifying : _ comrade Abdul Ismail Fatah the dead winner _ comrade Ali Nasser Mohammed the alive loser The losing party was a sore one since it gathered all its remaining tanks before the soviet embassy for unlimited target practice, before heading for the hills. Comrade Ali Nasser Mohammed took refuge in Ethiopia under the wing of comrade Mengistu Haile Mariam. Until 1990.
@_tartaros_9997
@_tartaros_9997 2 года назад
The NVA also helped with it´s weapons supply to support the brutal atrocities and mass kilkings in Ethiopia and many other african places. it´s one of the darkest sites of the nva and it´s history and the GDR never took responsibility for it.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 2 года назад
That’s the Cold War for yah.
@aasphaltmueller5178
@aasphaltmueller5178 2 года назад
There was an FDJ adviser in the Party Youth centrale in Bamako, Mali, in 1989. He drove the only Trabant in the country. And there was a shoe shining boy with an FDJ shirt. Also once a guy everybody in that bar called "Captain" once told me a poem by Goethe - well learned in the GDR.
@Fatboy00000
@Fatboy00000 10 месяцев назад
FDJ? we are talking NVA here dude
@JGCR59
@JGCR59 2 года назад
The Stasi being a extension of the Gestapo.... They'd disagree. They very much called themselves Tschekisten and were proud of their Tcheka/NKVD/GPU heritage
@kaianmontenegrotobias750
@kaianmontenegrotobias750 2 года назад
If I not wrong some of the founders of the Stasi were part of the Gestapo, but there's was heavy NVDK influence.
@JGCR59
@JGCR59 2 года назад
@@kaianmontenegrotobias750 Erich Mielke was a pre war communist who was wanted for murder of Police officers in Weimar Germany and later fought as a political officer in the Spanish Civil War. East Germany deployed former Nazis but never to the extent of West Germany, and Mielke and his predecessor Zeiker distrusted anyone who hadn't been a staunch Communist before 1933
@berlinwhite
@berlinwhite 2 года назад
@@kaianmontenegrotobias750 You are wrong. Totally wrong, in fact.
@InchFab
@InchFab 2 года назад
The best part of waking up... Dr. Felton in your cup.
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV 2 года назад
Bravo, another real insightful history lesson by Dr. Mark Felton seldom covered elsewhere. Wow, while I knew there were East German NVA Advisors, I did not realize about the larger numbers, in the thousands of East German NVA Soldiers depolyed to the various parts of Africa. Such high numbers of NVA Soldiers probably did partake in some combat engaugments. As well as also possibly supported or corroborated with Castro's Communist Cuban forces.
@MykeFord950
@MykeFord950 2 года назад
Wow! Hidden history I was aware that Cuba & The Soviets were assisting colonial resistance movements in Africa but had no idea East Germany was so instrumental as well
@iberiksoderblom
@iberiksoderblom 2 года назад
Having actually encountered some Cubans downthere in those days, Cubas involvement in Africa does have material for many videos.
@MrRdvs87
@MrRdvs87 2 года назад
I may have missed it, but did you cover any Cuban interventions in Africa?
@michaspringphul
@michaspringphul 2 года назад
he mentioned it shortly. But this video was about the east germany interventions not the cuban ones.
@MrRdvs87
@MrRdvs87 2 года назад
@@michaspringphul I meant a specific video on it, but I guess that’s outside the scope of his WWII predominant content.
@dereklee796
@dereklee796 2 года назад
Hey Mark!
@rudigerworthey2783
@rudigerworthey2783 2 года назад
Ein Afrikacorps der DDR gab es nicht aber einen Vertrag über die Ausbildung afrikanischer Soldaten zu Offizieren an Lehreinrichtungen der NVA in der DDR. Also lieber Felton richtig recherchieren und nicht unbewiesenes in eine Verschwörungstheorie verpacken.
@MarkFeltonProductions
@MarkFeltonProductions 2 года назад
Try watching the video before criticising me! I said the term 'Africa Korps' was a joke made up by the New York Times. I then explained that 5-10,000 NVA soldiers served in Africa as 'advisors'. Now contradict these facts.
@MrPh30
@MrPh30 2 года назад
A Norwegian who served in Legion 84-89 published in 97 a book about his years in 2nd Rep. He mentions in Chad when Libyans attacked they shot down a Jet with a DDR advisor pilot in. Pilot was kia.
@rodrigomeneses5900
@rodrigomeneses5900 2 года назад
All politics are same at the end. Become rich and keep population poor and divided
@m3ats
@m3ats 2 года назад
Interesting to know is also that there were East German penal battalions in Africa.
@juniatapark54
@juniatapark54 2 года назад
Is there anything one can read about that?
@m3ats
@m3ats 2 года назад
@@juniatapark54 Not really I think. I just know about it trough one of the „soldiers“ that were send down there.
@berlinwhite
@berlinwhite 2 года назад
@@m3ats You've been had there.
@armablign
@armablign 2 года назад
Hey Mark! I love seeing you give the lesser known history of the Cold War on the African front. I would love to see more about the South African Bush War (developed and an extendsion of the Angolan Civil War). Some nice topics: •The extensive use and development of Mine resistant vehicles, of which the companies' and their technology, are still employed and contracted to this very day for the MRAP market. • The first time the West got hold of and captured the most sophisticated Russian SAM system (SA-8) by South African troops, to which was traded/sold to the USA for analysis. • The first developed and operational Helmet Mounted Displays for Pilots to shoot off-bore. (A whole 10~20 years, before the Soviet 'claimed to be first' system was unveiled) (SA shared technology program with Israeli, from which Soviet spies got hold of the technology) • The general topic of Air superiority over Angola skies. (And the tactics developed)
@JulianBeams
@JulianBeams 2 года назад
Love that list! Would certainly watch those. South Africa never had radar coverage over Angola. Know this because my uncle was a senior radar tech at Rundu. What we did do is to intercept chatter from MIG pilots when they took off. Usually laden with bombs which made them heavy. If I remember the MIG-21 was not designed for bombing. This allowed the Mirages to scramble and be guided into the general area of the MIG's. Usually flying at treetop level. To engage the MIG's had to jettison their bombs, usually unarmed. Lost a friend this way when an armed jettisoned bomb fell near their positions. Completely unintentional as the chatter from the pilot had indicated he had no target.
@armablign
@armablign 2 года назад
@@JulianBeams Yes! I've heard about this! It is honestly astonishing till this day for me, how they managed to perform their intercepts like that. If im not mistaken (either 1 of these 2) wasn't the 'no radar coverage', more so applicable for the late stages of the war due to range? or, was it in beginning stages of the war, where South Africa was still developing or deploying radar systems Reason i'm saying this is, because ive seen video footage of SADF radar quarters and such. Secondly, the 'Angolan' pilots (Let's be honest, most were Cuban, with Soviet Pilots being debated til this day) but, the 'Red' pilots, also had to fly low level (to avoid the SADF's radar systems). This is how and why, the Impalas were able to, and be credited with some bizarre gun kill victories. But yea regardless of which it is, the facts still stay the same regarding the radio interception and low flying. Oh waw I'm really sorry to hear that about a friend of yours 😓 I have always wondered, if there ever is any 'collateral' (Can't find the right word, my apologies) collateral damage on ground forces, when an Airplane jettisons external fuel tanks, and/or, its payload (bombs).... I guess, the worst of my fears to that question is answered there... That is really unfortunate, sorry.
@lunsmann
@lunsmann 2 года назад
@@armablign - an old school friend of mine was in the RSA army doing his national service (1985 to 1987) serving as a comms officer (non com) listening in to the Cuban pilots speaking Spanish on open mikes. The Cuban's were confident that no South African could possibly understand them. My friend is the son of Portuguese refugees from Mozambique. The Cuban airbase was under direct observation by the Recces (South African SAS equivalent) who would call in artillery strikes to catch the Migs on the runways. They were very effective.
@razorboy08
@razorboy08 2 года назад
Well done! That's the most accurate description of Africa's 'transition' in a nutshell. Naturally, East Germany was acting in close harmony of her Master, Russia. Many people confuse Africa's wars against Communism with liberation struggles. Neither is absolute. In post colonial Africa, corruption and self enrichment by political leaders (former guerillas), flourish to the detrient of the citizens. In many many instances Africans themselves admit that infrastrucrure as well as government services, were more efficient prior to liberation. One's NOT referring to civil liberties. Anyway, thank you ,Mark, you have hit the nail on the head.
@kaleomalan6765
@kaleomalan6765 2 года назад
Africa was better off before the Communistic terrorists started making a mess. The ANC was and will always be a terrorist organization set up by the Communist's to weaken South Africa and make it vulnerable to exploitation by foreign powers.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 года назад
There's a very interesting RU-vid channel called "Military History Visualized." One of their videos concerns deaths in African post-colonial wars, that is Africans killing Africans. Look for it, it's shocking to say the least. I won't post a link, it'll probably be dropped.
@als1023
@als1023 2 года назад
Any travel in west Africa quickly reveals the after effects of Soviet / East German presence. We in the west politely ignore these chronically poor,, corrupt and AK infested regions . My some spent good time working as a medic there and the stories are depressing and acutely horrific. No services, roads, sewage or garbage collection, gross incompetence and graft running the countries. Dr Felton has gone gently on the ruzzian after effects, in his professional and learned manner, I respect that. I don't have to. Don't believe me, go there yourself and you will quickly be disabused of any notions you may have of communist ' clinics and cultural exchange efforts' It's a **it-hole any way you look at these places. Thank you again Mark, wonderful to see 2 of your books I own, are in Hollywood. I hope they are done justice, a bit skeptical about the American treatment, might prefer Netflix or an independent to do the films. Nonetheless it's a tribute to your excellent writing and research ! Best Wishes !!
@sealove79able
@sealove79able 2 года назад
Back then it was the USSR .
@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588
@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 2 года назад
@@als1023 very interesting. I assume then by your comment that the African countries which were aligned with the west, such as the Democratic Republic of the Congo, must be much better off...
@StevenStanleyBayes
@StevenStanleyBayes 2 года назад
Stasi and KGB were not different than CIA and FBI and the British Secret Service. Thus, the Africans countered CIA, FBI and the British Secret Service with similar organisations.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 2 года назад
South Africa was a pariah due to policy, even though it was still an improvement over what came before. Rhodesia however was a pariah simply for existing
@BK-ql1uy
@BK-ql1uy 9 месяцев назад
Aber als Startbild in RU-vid ein Bild von DDR- Grenzern zu nehmen um einen Bericht über East German Afrika Korps zu bringen, ist etwas sehr eigenwillig?
@StrohmaniasFlyingCircus
@StrohmaniasFlyingCircus 2 года назад
The mausoleum of Neto in Luanda is one of the weirdest monuments I've ever seen. You feel like you've landed on another planet.
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy 2 года назад
he shared with Algeria's Bumedienne the same forgotten soviet surgical knife in the stomach.
@uwefischer3193
@uwefischer3193 10 месяцев назад
Die NVA hat nie ein anderes Land besetzt oder angegriffen.Kein Offizier oder Soldat braucht sich schämen Schämen.😊😅
@marin313
@marin313 2 года назад
Very interesting Mark. Left me wondering what happened to the East German forces. Were any absorbed into the new German army or were they disqualified because of their military association with the Communist authoritarian regime?
@claushungerland5521
@claushungerland5521 2 года назад
Indeed, both the West German Army and the Former East German Army were merged after the German unification in 1990. Of course this was no overnight processbut required some time. During that period, actually all enlisted men were taken over, yet this did not apply for all of the CO' s and NCO's. German military intelligence had to do quite a job here to distinguish between die hard communists and those who were simply doing a military job. In the end, about one third of all former East German CO's and NCO's got transferred into the Bundeswehr. Criteria were very tight and affecting in particular high ranking officers (Lt. Col. to Gen). The higher in rank, the more likelier you were to be a firm believer in the communist idea and therefore a reliable person to the East German regime.
@cuauhtemoc8350
@cuauhtemoc8350 2 года назад
There is a very good book I recommend. "Requiem for an Army" . It details the process of integrating a rather small number of East German Officers into the Bundeswehr. The thesis of the book is that the East German Army was a true people's army, and very professional. So much in fact, that there was little chance if turning into their own people, thus facilitating the transition dissolution of East Germany. The sad part is that East German officers were often treated with derison by the western counterparts. Moreover, the East German army was truly a new German army, free of Nazi ideology. It took over a decade more to form than the West German Army because they abstained from having WWII officers and had to spent years training new officer corps exclusively from working class backgrounds.
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV 2 года назад
@@cuauhtemoc8350 Actually there were a number of Whermacht Officers and NCO's in the begining era of the East German NVA.
@cuauhtemoc8350
@cuauhtemoc8350 2 года назад
@@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV Yes there were, but they removed as soon as possible. They didn't want them there permanently. It was their policy.
@redwingrob1036
@redwingrob1036 2 года назад
@@cuauhtemoc8350 BETTER than the Bundeschiesse Nancy boys anyday. SEE how the Bundy ladyboys march compared to the NVA?🤣😅😂 ZELENSKY 💅🏻 👠💄👛 loves the Bundy ladyboys.
@kixon1872
@kixon1872 2 года назад
0:34 i belive that yougoslavia had the best standard of living out of all comunist countryes
@berlinwhite
@berlinwhite 2 года назад
Nope. It was the GDR. By quite a distance, too.
@filippos13
@filippos13 2 года назад
You must do an episode about the Cubans and the Battle of Cuito Canavale
@henrykeyter53
@henrykeyter53 2 года назад
It's a bit controversial, don't you think?
@filippos13
@filippos13 2 года назад
@@henrykeyter53 Studying history means overcoming controversies
@henrykeyter53
@henrykeyter53 2 года назад
@@filippos13 True. The issue with Cuito is, however, that both sides claimed victory. When one assesses the losses of both sides one would say that the SADF/UNITA coalition won. The MPLA/Cuban/SWAPO side claims they won, however, because the SADF was unable to take Cuito itself, even though the South African aim was to merely prevent the MPLA from reaching Jamba and thus destroying UNITA. Truth is that Cuito, like Cassinga and Smokeshell was a clusterf---
@filippos13
@filippos13 2 года назад
@@henrykeyter53 I think we can all agree that it was a South African tactical victory but a Cuban strategic victory, albeit a short lived one
@aldosigmann419
@aldosigmann419 2 года назад
I remember East German athletes of that era competing in the Olympics doped up to the max. National prestige was everything.
@mac7040
@mac7040 2 года назад
I think that was a standard state sponsored programmes in the ussr that has carried on into contemporary times by putin and Co in Russia.
@troutwarrior6735
@troutwarrior6735 2 года назад
A practice that appears to have continued in Russia today. It’s really short sighted, the only thing it accomplishes is the embarrassment of your nation on the global stage, your banning from international competition, and the destruction of your athletes.
@robs257
@robs257 2 года назад
just like russia today :D
@raymondtonns2521
@raymondtonns2521 2 года назад
and integrity nothing
@pfw4568
@pfw4568 2 года назад
Turinabol was the compound. The only ever Steroid developed for non-medical reasons.
@davidpage4005
@davidpage4005 2 года назад
Interesting to see Raisa Gorbachev in the shot behind and to Honecker's left at 2:12.
@richx5064
@richx5064 2 года назад
The next logic video should be the Cubans in Africa. One of the largest land battle in Africa after WW2 was between the Cubans and South Africa. Maybe you can cover just how good was the Cuban army.
@richx5064
@richx5064 Год назад
@Vagabond in London Town The Cubans fought all over Africa. Their general performance all over Africa and performance in major battles might make for a good video.
@heh9392
@heh9392 2 года назад
Am I the only one with bad video quality?
@DragonsAndDragons777
@DragonsAndDragons777 2 года назад
I had it, just close the video and reopen
@liuxiangcheng6458
@liuxiangcheng6458 2 года назад
Долой колониализм империалистов ! Свободу Африке !
@cronjevandermerwe8864
@cronjevandermerwe8864 2 года назад
This is so cool. A good friend of mine’s father was ex south africak koevoet. And he told us that East germany supplied SWAPO with boots and webbing. And also uniforms. It was one of south africas most successful units in the buch war
@fresatx
@fresatx 8 месяцев назад
He wears green boots and he's coming to get you.
@BangOlafson
@BangOlafson Год назад
GDR only had one president: Wilhelm Pieck. After his death in 1960 the position of president was abolished/never refilled. Pieck came from the KPD and Grotewohl (who served as Prime Minister) from the SPD. Guess this was arranged this way to ensure both sides of the newly created SED were happy. After Pieck the head of state was the head of the state council which was Ulbricht (until ousted by Honecker who himself was replaced as part of the 1989 Wende).
@1bert719
@1bert719 2 года назад
I found out about this after watching the Richard Burton film "The wild geese" as the African nation in the movie had East German and Cuban "advisers" and I followed that through to the real story.
@it4yi
@it4yi 2 года назад
Much respect for your videos but the way you sanitize the western countries during the colonial era is wrong. Britain and its allies committed genocides in Africa too. Africa we need to rewrite our own history.
@HouseholdDog
@HouseholdDog 2 года назад
I've heard about the German Africa Corp already. Hang on a minute...
@ldn5986
@ldn5986 2 года назад
The Democratic Republic of (East) Germany hunted down, trialed and executed a ridiculously bigger amount of Nazi War Time criminals than Federal West Germany (which was ZERO). All for Anglo to come here and claim Stasi was an extension of Gestapo. In Reality, West German legal apparatus and security forces was the one ridden of former Nazis, while the Nato Museum at Checkpoint charlie, Berlin, claims that the five thousand Nazi times criminals executed in Democratic East Germany for their war time and political crimes are somehow "martyrs of the Red Army occupation"
@GustavoSantos-lv1bo
@GustavoSantos-lv1bo 10 месяцев назад
East Germany lives in the heart and memory of every african. Their contribution on the struggles from freedom against the opressive european colonialism will never be forgeted.
@jackwelch6017
@jackwelch6017 2 года назад
The Stasi was founded by a german communist who fled to the USSR because he killed two SS officers. Make your criticisms of the Stasi, but do not lie and say it was an extension of the fascist Gestapo. For the first 10 years of its existence, the Stasi's prime directive was the capture and prosecution of former Gestapo and SS.
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