Ciaran Cafferkey Kathy is Ben's mother and "Shirl" is short for Shirley and Shirley used to be Ben's stepmother. Shirley is the one that's sitting across from him and Kathy is next to him
@@KanonHara cos it'd been a long time since they had a heart to heart. He grew up with her being like a mother figure and Hev like an aunt to him. She was/is the only one that gets through to him when he goes off on one. Cos she still cares about him deep down.
In spite of everything, I never saw the character Shirley as a villain, but as a suffering and bitter woman who has already taken a lot in life and that is why today she has such a hard and strong personality. She was definitely never happy
The only one who could talk sent into Ben was probably Shirley she would stick up for Ben when Phil never did same with Heather even though ben did kill her but he loved her he regrets killing her
I miss Harry Reid's Ben. He actually felt like the opposite to Phil while still being his son. The new Ben is just a carbon copy of Phil and is basically just his lapdog.
I love Ben tho sometimes he can go a bit far, like Warren really from hollyoaks he's bad but like bad as in the lion who roars but sometimes can go a bit to far. If that makes any sense
I love the fact Ben was eating Cheese and Chips because Heather used to bring Ben there. I think that’s why Shirley knew that would get to him. She knew even if he maybe didn’t realise he was doing it, he was remembering Heather in his own way
Yes, I have many 'ACCIDENTS' where I clobber someone over the head with a photo frame. He may not have meant to kill her but he meant to cause her harm.
Shirley was actually out of line here phil didn't deserve another chance he'd already been given far far more than Ben had been given and this version of Ben was actually trying to turn his life around and be a better person unlike phil so the comparison isn't fair at all phil's already been given second chances and third chances and fourth chances etc etc. yet he still refused to even try and fight his addiction any longer there comes a point where you have to stop giving second chances and cut the toxic cunt out of your life for your own health and phil was deffo beyond that point during this period in the show.
yeh but thats got nothing to do with shirley, she wasnt even around during deans childhood so she didnt even raise him ,not her fault he turned out the way he did