She deserves every bad thing that happens to her. She treated Mark so badly and lied to Pauline saying that she would never go back to Phil and not an hour later, she asked Phil to go and get Lou. Mark should have known that he couldn't trust her. The lazy git hadn't worked since she lost her job as the market inspector.
Lisa was looking for an excuse to go back to Phil and leave Mark. The rape attempt by Mark was just the excuse she needed to leave him. This obviously back fired when Phil treated her like dirt. She basically shot herself in the foot leaving Mark.
Having watched quite a lot of the old Eastender’s episodes the level of thought going into the story lines just shows what a great job the writers and actors done. It was compelling. The fact that people like you still hold strong emotions years on confirms that. I also have a different viewpoint to Phil’s character. I once viewed him as an angry thumb who seem to row with everyone - which is true lol - but his actions are reactive to insane shit going on around him. In his early days, he was peacemaker to Grant’s madness but gradually grew into the hard man role. So much madness has happened to him that his character really should’ve had shorter shelf life as he is now stale and to the point parody. All of the ‘villains’ who he has feuded with over the years came and went which was best thing to do when wanting to keep the show fresh and realistic.
Yeah I was thinking that, excalty it's treibble... I was looking for a comment like yours or one that was about what am thinking. I was feeling sorry for him before he tried to rape Lisa. After that I have to say I lost sympathy for him. His been through ALOT & didn't deserve it at all, but that doesn't mean he has to force himself upon her!. There is alot of things he can do to get this anger out, (like when he smashed the mirror). He can throw things across the room, and so on, rape is not one of them. Lisa may have done so many REALLY horrible things to him and treated him badly like dirt but she didn't deserve to be raped because of all that.
At least he didn't go through with it and stopped himself - I was shocked that he went that far but given that Phil practically terrorized him earlier....that's not an excuse of course...but it's clear that Mark was close to a breakdown.
@@princessvictory3735 Phil killed a person in a fire, terrorised his mum with his alcoholism, hit many women including his mum, physically attacked many people, committed adultery with his brother's wife, savagely beat up young adults, such as Jamie, need I go on?????? He also hit Ben when he was in his single digit years, and tried to pervert the course of justice by covering up a murder committed by Ben.
It gave Phil no pleasure doing what he did to Mark. It was sadly just a case of him being the one in the way of getting his kid back. He used to actually be good friends with all The Fowlers in the 90s.
Mark was too nice, deserved someone like him, doesn't make other kinds of people bad either but they are too cunning for nice people, that's life eh, Mark fowler 🌹
Life's so much more bearable when you treat it like the joke it is, Mark!!!!! You should've poured that alcohol over your head, and started laughing uncontrollably!!!!!
@@mahreenmunir7702 so true .Mark was treated appallingy. It was disgusting the way Lisa treated him .she was an ungreatful moaner/ whiner who got treated the same way she treated and knew what it felt like to be treated like dirt and stabbed in the back
Even after all it was revealed that Louise wasn't his he still decided he wanted her but as usual whatever bad boy Phil wants bad boy Phil gets, don't condone what Mark fowler almost did to Lisa was wrong of him but it was quite cut clear the guy was in the middle of a breakdown after having his heart destroyed yet again
@@Escape_from_thefog how did i answer my own question, lots of bad stuff can happen to good people and good stuff happen to bad people. Im just curious of what got into Lisa's mind to do that !🙄
STEJTHEGREATEST Mark knew he had HIV, that was the difference between her sleeping with Phil. Phil and Lisa weren't knowingly putting each other at risk.
@@msmilano7091 Phil knew he didn't really wanna be with Lisa, but it didn't stop him from getting her hopes up, sleeping with her, pretending to play happy families with her. Plus, there was the chance Phil's alcoholism could've worn off on Lisa, or that beatings from the violent Phil could've traumatised her.
Lisa was vile. She knew he never loved her but still chose Phil over Mark. Phil was actually better than her by giving Mark the chance to say bye to Louise. Mark didn't mean to hurt Lisa but when he saw how Lisa had duped him, going between him and Phil, he snapped thinking he'd been so nice and that was what he'd got. Lisa deserved what Phil did to her. He lied he loved her to get Louise. It was like when grant stayed with Tiffany just to have Courtney. Everyone rightly turned on Lisa. It wasn't because she didn't love Mark. It was because she used him. And when Phil and Peggy used her she had the nerve to want Mark to save her after makimg him give Louise up. Pauline told her Louise was nothing to do with him anymore
@Speak-my Mind-Ibiza how was he? The guy had a family then finds out a piece of dirt like Phil Mitchell had slept with the woman he loves and had the baby, then Lisa goes on playing happy families with Mark more or less telling him she wants them to bring up the kid together just to be cheated on again with the same guy I'd be on the verge of a mental breakdown if I was Mark, doesn't excuse what he tried to do but clear in evident that his mind was clearly not there and his heart had well an truly been destroyed, and same with keeping louise away from her biological dad hell I don't blame him, who would want a thug like Phil Mitchell raising a kid good on him is all I say but hey ho ya can shut ya crying cause he got her back from Mark and made a mess of his daughters life 👏
3:48 no-one left to stand up to phil 5:12 5:49 5:56 6:16 7:15 hindsight 😂 7:59 more like the opposite direction 8:51 poor mark didn't deserve this, in this case nice guys finish last 😢
Phil was right tbh Mark lost Lisa and Lou when Phil was the biological dad, changed literally everything and Lisa used mark cos Phil wasn’t interested at first
Anyone else Phil would have kicked shit out of him but he nu he felt like her dad and felt same wat wen lisa was gonna leave with Mel and Steve Lisa maybe should have agreed to let him have access to louse I know he had no legal rights but out of loyalty he would never hurt Lisa for world he wasn't bad guy at All and Peggy had a short memory he was there for her during her cancer treatment even after horrible things she said to him about h i.v before that he was a great dad to her closet thing he had being a dad Phil was actually pretty gutted for mark there he nu he loved her 😢 I think later Lisa relised regrettied her actions coz she obviously fled country to escape Phil later on mark was clearly breaking down coz he never did that to anyone no excuse but it is mark completely harmless tho he could handle himself in a fight surprisingly