Eastwood After Hours Live at Carnegie Hall Alto Sax:Charles McPherson,James Moody Tenor Sax:Joshua Redman, James Rivers, James Carter ,Flip Phillips Trumpet:Roy Hargrove
I'm not sure if anyone who's complaining about Flip's playing is also accounting for the fact that he's swinging. You normally play ahead or behind the beat. Notice how the drummer does rim hits, it gives it more of a swing feel. Anyone who says he can't keep up with Carter or Redman needs to understand that any good improviser has a style that's generally unique to them, and his is awesome, to say the least.
Watching Flip play here makes me so happy. So much knowledge, experience, language from a bygone time. What an incredible experience all of them must have had up there with him. And Maestro Moody!! Man, just playing beautifully... Got to meet him a few times while I was in school. Super grateful for him and his lessons to all of us.
Flip is a swing player, if you want to put a category on it. For an older guy, he is blowing his ass off. To compare him to Carter or Redman is apples and oranges.
Flip Philips educating the rest. He was doing JATP with Prez and all those jazz greats before some of these guys where even born. A truly under-rated player.
Made it my end-of-school-year goal to transcribe the saxophone solos, does anyone have any suggestions for how to get through that James Carter insanity in his second chorus? Other than slowing it down of course.
I think the problen here is the monitoring system. The players can clearly play in time, but I don't think some are hearing the rhythm section on stage well enough. Sound engineer couldn't keep up.
Am I right and the saxophonist at 5:40 was 8 bars before he was supposed to? Was he trying to play the beginning of the bridge (D7) instead of Bb? Or was it on purpose?
He was actually starting the bridge then caught himself. the hits the cats were doing before his solo most likely threw him of…but he played it of then played his ass off…(prob angry about being off earlier) 🔥🔥
He's not bopping because he's not playing bop, he's playing lester leaps in. Bop players just have a tendency to turn everything style of jazz into bop. That's not his style, and I think he blew a kickass solo.
@CliftonMcCallMusic Actually, he's playing behind the tempo.. some people play ahead of beat, on the beat or behind. This is a player who is into the behind the beat type of playing.. sorta like Hank Mobley...but make no mistake about it.. he's killin it. The reason the drummer was doing rim shots...was to give it that extra feel of swing.. and it was def swingin both redman and flip were killin it.
@CliftonMcCallMusic Ya I don't hear what you mean, sounds fine to me, like the drummer is only changing gears if you know what i mean. Some the stuff flip plays is kinda wierd, but most of it was fine. Some spots did make me go huh? but I'm just writing it off as hes old man!
I guess i'm basing my opinion of him purely from assumptions made when I see his demeanor and "attitude" while he plays. It's all unfounded assumption, of course.
I think that probably Flip has never been a great bopper, but he had his story to tell. He was very old in this video, and he probably didn't hear very well (in fact he didn't played on time the first bars, and the rhythm section changed their way of playing to help him). In my opinion "to swing" and "to bop" is not the same thing, so he didn't play in a real bebop style, but he could swing. Sorry for my english, and best regards from Italy
How so? I mean I know some of the saxes slipped up when soloing and didn’t know the cue for when to stop. But these guys are just here jamming. And it overall sounded great.
No matter how much experience flip has, he cannot possibly keep up with these cats. I'm sorry down to my personal opinion flip just wasn't on point like James Carter, Redman or Hargrove and they haven't been in the industry for as long. You need to have innate swing to play bebop, Flip just hasn't got, still a very good saxophonist though, but he can't bop.
