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~M18 6AH BATTERY ON AMAZON: amzn.to/3uIB6NT
I bought a Milwaukee M18 battery from Home Depot, Amazon, and eBay. Let's see if they are all the same?
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@calebcannon4653
@calebcannon4653 7 месяцев назад
Also, I bought a DeWalt 5.0 AH battery off Amazon a year and a half ago, from a "authorized retailer." It held charge ok, but after 20 or so cycles, quickly fell on its face. Then I got an email from Amazon a few months later telling me they were aware it was a counterfit item, to destroy/dispose of it, and issued me a refund.
@username-mc7jw
@username-mc7jw 6 месяцев назад
FYI: There are NO authorized Milwaukee sellers on Amazon. None. That doesn't mean you can't buy a genuine product there, it just means you'll have warranty issues if you ever need to go that route. Fortunately, Milwaukee tools are pretty indestructible. Having said that; I'm very cautious when I do opt to buy a Milwaukee product from an Amazon seller. I know there are reputable (not 'authorized') sellers on Amazon who have built a business buying big kits at a discount, breaking them up, and selling the individual 'bare' tools at a profit. I'm okay with that, but I still read the reviews very carefully anyway. In fact; I recently bought a 1/2" M18 drill on Amazon for under $50 to serve as my 'garage drill'.
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 6 месяцев назад
​@@username-mc7jwI've warrantied a dozen milwaukee tools at my local service shop and not once did they ask for a receipt or where I purchased. They just look at the serial number to see if it falls under the 3-5 year warranty
@182QKFTW
@182QKFTW 6 месяцев назад
You typically don't need a receipt for warranty unless you dispute when you purchased it. Milwaukee goes by the manufacture date for the warranty @@username-mc7jw
@akatyboy
@akatyboy 2 месяца назад
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@sccarguy8242
@sccarguy8242 7 месяцев назад
Project farm did a review on batteries, and it seems like the knock offs don’t have the same overload protection as the OG’s. Many of these garage fires you hear about are caused by these cheap batteries over heating and catching fire.
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 6 месяцев назад
these newer fakes are counterfeits though, they're slightly better fakes lol
@Manuel3525m
@Manuel3525m 3 месяца назад
Haven’t heard of any garage fire cuz of the battery.
@nickthompson529
@nickthompson529 Месяц назад
What garage fires?
@joecaraco7503
@joecaraco7503 7 месяцев назад
That little black piece is a thermistor that keeps the battery from charging when overheated. Let eBay and PayPal know of your problem. One or the other should go to bat for you forcing the vendor to give you a proper shipping label (prepaid). I have had eBay issue me a refund and go after the vendor and PayPal do the same when eBay wouldn't due to their limited complaint period.
@sethdahlberg7136
@sethdahlberg7136 7 месяцев назад
Not really. I got a knock off watch off ebay. Legally, shipping a knock off item isn't legal. So paypal wants you to break the law by sending it back to the seller to get your refund.
@Drewzer154
@Drewzer154 6 месяцев назад
I looked at that seller's feedback and there are others that have reported them to eBay and eBay seems to not care.
@anonymousnoname
@anonymousnoname 6 месяцев назад
EBay only cares about money
@tortuga34
@tortuga34 6 месяцев назад
Im glad I ran into this video. Thanks for sharing! I wondered why some batteries were so cheap on ebay and looked legit.
@imleetsometimes
@imleetsometimes 7 месяцев назад
I just dropped some pretty serious coin on a drill and impact combo kit that came with an extra free battery which was the one you tested. I also picked up the M18 Sawzall, spent just under $700 after taxes. That high output battery was listed at $199.99 in the store. I know I could have got everything cheaper online but I wanted to support my local Ace Hardware.
@bsmith2340
@bsmith2340 6 месяцев назад
Good for you brother. I wish I had that mentality but my money likes to stay in my wallet
@J.C...
@J.C... 5 месяцев назад
FYI Ace Hardware is an multi-billion dollar international company. They are *the largest* non-grocery retailer in the United States with over 5700 locations
@imleetsometimes
@imleetsometimes 5 месяцев назад
@@J.C... True, and they employ local people to work at their stores.
@jed1947
@jed1947 3 месяца назад
1) you got genuine product for sure; 2) ACE is franchised so locals own most stores, especially in smaller communities. I buy there when I can, Lowes or Home Depot otherwise.
@imleetsometimes
@imleetsometimes 3 месяца назад
@@jed1947 Yes sir!
@gdl357g
@gdl357g 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. It will save a lot of people some headaches because knockoff batteries are just not worth the money. Honestly you have made the best video on youtube showing this issue. 🏆
@winnerscreed6767
@winnerscreed6767 7 месяцев назад
If you look at the bottom of the batteries, all of them are made in different places, one was professionally made in China for Milwaukee, one made in Korea then finished in China, one made in Mexico.
@justinritter7925
@justinritter7925 5 месяцев назад
Ok so what does all that mean??
@Kahsimiah
@Kahsimiah 14 дней назад
​@justinritter7925 in my head, it sounded like the J-Law Oscar story. 😂
@darrenairey5938
@darrenairey5938 7 месяцев назад
That's really good info to know! Thanks for sharing that, because I am currently shopping around for the same Milwaukee batteries. Looking at that listing on eBay, pretty much everyone would expect them to be legitimate Milwaukee 6.0 HO batts. Usually when purchasing from eBay I try to keep it local or within US/Canada. You did say it was listed as a Los Angeles seller so they did a damn good job of tricking the smart people like us that check these things! Anyways hope you can get it returned or heavily discounted! Thanks again for the insight!
@conawayjb
@conawayjb 7 месяцев назад
Good info.....i gave up on ebay years ago
@Rob-tn8to
@Rob-tn8to 7 месяцев назад
I'm in Canada and recently made an Ebay purchase from USA. Shipping was through ebay international. The product sat in an Illinois distribution center for a week according to tracking. I'm done with ebay as well.
@jaywelker5566
@jaywelker5566 6 месяцев назад
@@Rob-tn8to then that's not actually an eBay inherent issue. That's a shipping/logistics issue and eBay is not a shipping company. UPS, Fedex, USPS, etc, etc are and if something gets stuck then the distribution facility probably way behind or had other issues....or the fact that it's a package that has to move to another country they probably queue up a bunch of orders to all get into the same shipment (which leads to lower prices overall, at the expense of speed) I've had one product get stuck/temporarily lost due to power outages from a major wind storm, but I didn't throw shitfits at eBay or Amazon or Home Depot or even the shipping company. Because shit happens.
@G_Machine_Joe
@G_Machine_Joe 7 месяцев назад
And... Milwaukee will not warranty any of their products purchased from the jungle store or FleeBay. That's why I spent extra to get their tools from Home Depot.
@TheOtherBill
@TheOtherBill 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like they know there are counterfeits for sale there and probably can't stop it.
@pete_lind
@pete_lind 6 месяцев назад
@@TheOtherBill Extended warranty system always tell if its legit seller , next is package , harder because different markets have different package and labels . Like Makita Japan , white boxes , nothing fancy , Europe package , colored package with product pick on it .
@thetechgenie7374
@thetechgenie7374 5 месяцев назад
You also get better details at ACE hardware, or Home Depot. I purchased a Milwaukee kit Gen 4 kit with hammer drill and impact driver with two 5.0 Ah batteries to upgrade my on it last leg first generation of the fuel and they give you a free 8.0 Ah battery, also bought two 5.0 Ah with chargers for full price and received free m18 tools both also brushless reciprocal, saw and angle grinder free.
@gungnir722
@gungnir722 4 месяца назад
they will warranty the tools, just tell them you lost the receipt and they will go off the manufacturing date on the side
@undividedattention
@undividedattention 2 месяца назад
Not sure about fakes. But real products are still able to be warrantied. I know from experience. Just got two tools and two batteries back today that I purchased off ebay.
@calebcannon4653
@calebcannon4653 7 месяцев назад
Bruh, anything sold as OEM with a too-good-to-be-true price on eBay is a Chinese fraud. I got some "OEM" Motorcraft plugs and coils awhile back and something about them didn't seem right...after some research, WOW. Eye opening. So much is counterfit these days...
@theroving1
@theroving1 7 месяцев назад
The circuit board was the real give away, but how many people will check inside? Seems like an incident waiting to happen!
@jongreen9250
@jongreen9250 7 месяцев назад
Home Depot probably had the same packaging as the ebay one because someone bought the more expensive one from Home Depot and returned the eBay version.
@jed1947
@jed1947 3 месяца назад
Yeah, you do sadly see this. I never, never buy an open sealed package from a big box retailer.
@MrQ23
@MrQ23 7 месяцев назад
I imagine that one of the biggest differences in the real vs fake, the fake won't have over charge protection. Or any short circuit protect like the real one.
@andrewchristiansen8311
@andrewchristiansen8311 6 месяцев назад
Yes it did I saw the fuse plates in the traces they all do or they wont allow them through customs lol.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 месяцев назад
I've gone through a ton of these fake ones for people. Easiest way to tell fake on the 18v: power indicator lights have to be viewed directly above. Unlike the real ones you can view at nearly 90°. That 6hr pack will only have about 3 to 4 amp hour capacity. Most of the fake ones people have sent me came from Amazon.
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 7 месяцев назад
This one seems to have the same amp hours based on my test with the leaf blower. And as far as I can tell the Amazon one is legit. It was a third party seller. I'm sure there's plenty of counterfeits on there as well though
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 месяцев назад
@@nnkhmisc The other dead giveaway is when you take it apart: the red power level indicator button is fake. This is the same fake circuit board you can buy when you're building your own packs. Just had a 8 amp hour high output that a subscriber sent me because it failed. Of course he called Milwaukee and they said it was fake so he sent it to me. Ended up being just a failed solder joint. But in capacity testing it only put out about 3900 milliamps versus the 8000 it's supposed to. The aftermarket cells are just so bad. They're okay if you use it in low drain tools like a flashlight, but if you put it in an impact or angle grinder, it'll short them out.
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 6 месяцев назад
scale will find the fake ones also weight is low
@dangates3022
@dangates3022 7 месяцев назад
i know you saw project farm he does all kinds of testing on products maybe mention your video to him he may do an extensive video of not just those three but many more. he drills in would with auger bits and see's how many they can d n a row. etc
@theone2be33
@theone2be33 7 месяцев назад
Hope you're back is feeling better Chris. No more Evel Knieval tricks on scooters for you old man! 😂
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 7 месяцев назад
Thanks and yea for sure!
@Derek-tk4wf
@Derek-tk4wf 7 месяцев назад
If you do light work, the knockoffs can be perfectly fine. But the cheaper and shittier cells used inside cant do the amps of the genuine and you find that out with certain tools. And the lack of over discharge ability and whatnot.
@Snufl
@Snufl 7 месяцев назад
Coming from a classic gaming repair background, counterfeiters always have trouble getting labels perfect, printing will be different, blurrier, or the wrong color, and likely not aligned properly. The insides are always the giveaway, though, most people won't take it apart so they only put effort in on the outside.
@pete79602
@pete79602 7 месяцев назад
I bought knockoff Ryobi 14.4 big batteries and they work great at a little less than 1/2 the price
@yousefalmarhoon8789
@yousefalmarhoon8789 6 месяцев назад
Great review & interesting to see that, I bought 2 6.0 Dewalt batteries from eBay, then I saw a year later a vid talking about the same issue about fraud, so I had to check mine, fortunately both of them are legit after checking with Samsung cells in them, btw even the home depot has some issues with some of their batteries specially the m12, since I opened one because it stopped working and saw some markers and tape covering the board, after taking it off saw some poor soldering where the area was brown, I am not sure what was the reason, maybe they refurbished some batteries or whatever the case but due to the poor soldering one wire had been desoldered so I had to solder it again then it worked fine, then checked another battery which is from home depot as well, but it was great with no problems whatsoever. Now I am in doubt in each battery I get from anywhere 🤷🏻‍♂️
@rolandm9750
@rolandm9750 6 месяцев назад
These particular fakes actually did pretty darn well. But who knows how many cycles you will get and how they will perform over the longer term. Often times they'll start to error out on the charger and not charge, for no apparent reason. Another thing you can try BTW is to shine a black light on the side and front labels of the battery. The genuine Milwaukee ones glow in a very particular manner, counterfeits do not look the same under black light.
@Mackze
@Mackze 7 месяцев назад
It's bad to charge lithiums when they're hot so if you're not in a hurry it's a good idea to let them cool down before throwing them on a charger
@ilyaanry
@ilyaanry 7 месяцев назад
They warm up themselves while charging. Guess, it is what Chris measured, but not a temperature after being used in a blower.
@PFab
@PFab 7 месяцев назад
I also sell these batteries on eBay, but I have the original ones from Milwaukee. This really pisses me off because i have to compete with these fake ones to make anything. They drive the prices down and leave a bad reputation for all of us. Just to be clear, Amazon is not an authorized Milwaukee dealer. So keep that in mind as well.
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 6 месяцев назад
there's a few smart people who will look for the ones priced a little higher, as they're more likely to be genuine - as well as look at seller ratings. Many of the counterfeiters have lower than 98.5% ratings.
@PFab
@PFab 6 месяцев назад
@M.TTT. I hope you are right. I have been noticing a lot of people consider eBay as low class like temu or Ali express.
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 6 месяцев назад
@PFab yeahh people never really learned how to shop on eBay or could be bothered making a paypal. Feel like it's a dying platform or will be - people aren't getting any smarter lol. Now we have a dozen different apps all doing the same thing, pita.
@PFab
@PFab 6 месяцев назад
@M.TTT. I believe eBay will outlast those sites. I have been a member since 2007. And not even Amazon compares. The tools eBay provides are way better and easier to navigate with. Then you got the customer service, which, in my opinion, is top notch. For both sellers and buyers. You just have to keep your eyes open for the fakes. On Amazon, it's not easy to filter out the junk. Those other sites I don't use and have no idea how they operate. But I did sell on Mercari and was doing really well until a couple of months ago. I was hit with a huge shipping error and made nothing. I lost over $300, and the customer service was straight poopoo. After that, I immediately dropped them. Never again.
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 6 месяцев назад
@PFab true, but people and apps are getting dumbed down, but it may be too big to fail for a good while and there's enough people left who know how to use it left to keep it alive a while
@Popeyes66
@Popeyes66 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the heads up Chris
@keysautorepair6038
@keysautorepair6038 4 месяца назад
Real battery’s are never charged facts.
@soothemerelaxation5923
@soothemerelaxation5923 Месяц назад
It also happened to me, I bought a pair of Milwaukee 5.0 mAh batteries on eBay for $80 and after 2 to 4 weeks of use they broke easily without hitting them and then they both burned out, I also reported it to eBay 3 months ago and they don't do anything, they continue selling the same fake Milwaukee batteries.
@1999Valkyrie
@1999Valkyrie 6 месяцев назад
A good way to tell if your "aftermarket" battery is fake: weigh it, then compare it with the original. If it's fake it will weigh less because of cheaper cells inside.
@sethdexter3196
@sethdexter3196 6 месяцев назад
That been happening for a while on eBay. The seller states USA location but they just import from china then drop ship to you.
@smplyizzy
@smplyizzy 7 месяцев назад
I have heard that Milwaukee will not warranty any tool purchased from Amazon. No personal experience.
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 7 месяцев назад
I heard that too, but then in one of my recent videos where I compared some Amazon tools, a bunch of people commented that they had no problem warranting the tools they bought from Amazon.
@hajjman99
@hajjman99 7 месяцев назад
@@nnkhmisc So it comes down to if the serial number is out of warranty date but if u bought it within the 5 year period. An Example is you get a drill from amazon and its been sitting for 2 years on a shelf the warranty will only be 3 years because they will ask for proof of purchase after 3 years. If this happened at a authorized dealer u can bring Your proof of purchase and they will have no issue giving you a warranty if you got it within the 5 years, even if the serial number is out of date. if the serial number is in date they wont even ask for proof of purchase in my experience. also all of the tools I've ever gotten of amazon have been manufactured within the year I bought them. I have always walked right in the Milwaukee store on west Chester pike right outside philly with broken tools and no paper work and they flip it over and read the number and tell me if they can fix it or give me a new one.
@burrritoprince
@burrritoprince 7 месяцев назад
​@@nnkhmiscMilwaukee will warranty any genuine product in it's warranty window. The only difference is if bought from an authorized outlet, your warranty starts at date of purchase; if obtained secondhand or from an unauthorized outlet, the warranty is based on the production date of the tool/item.
@Rwalt61
@Rwalt61 6 месяцев назад
I've heard sometimes these counterfeit batteries use used or junk cells in the battery pack. Also not having that thermistor almost makes the batteries dangerous because if you charge the battery while it's hot, it could potentially catch fire. Lithium batteries are some of the most advanced batteries but also can be the most dangerous batteries if you don't use care.
@PeterTrimboli
@PeterTrimboli 6 месяцев назад
I ordered a 10 pack of Makita batteries on Amazon and they were all counterfeit. They looked really good at first but the LEDs for the batteries looked off. They didn't fit the tools or charger well. I issued a return on Amazon and they told me to keep the batteries after I said they were fake and I got my money back. Then I bought a 10 pack on eBay but I had the seller send me pictures first. Those were actually genuine.
@kwinterburn
@kwinterburn 7 месяцев назад
The photo at the end is genuine packaging it's the same as the Amazon batteries with the dimples around the outside , do they photographed genuine and sent something else
@charles.neuman18
@charles.neuman18 3 месяца назад
Amazon is not an authorized Milwaukee dealer. Some of the third-party sellers on amazon might be selling real stuff, and they might be knockoffs. Could be warrantee issues.
@echoman6358
@echoman6358 7 месяцев назад
I've reported e-bay sellers before. I don't think they do anything.
@thetechgenie7374
@thetechgenie7374 5 месяцев назад
He still selling and using the exact same pictures.
@daver1427
@daver1427 Месяц назад
Ebay is like .... FB.... FB will NOT do anything about scammers tagging and selling fake swag or merch.
@Plumberuppr
@Plumberuppr 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for making this video. I'm a licensed plumber amd unfortunately I fell for the ebay scam. I just bought a 12.0 battery amd it looked official. Right in.the description it said to "not fall for fakes" and it was fake. It came fully charged, which I thought was weird, but I used it. I drilled 2 holes and then there was no bars. I put it in my super charger and got the blinking light of death. I got a very similar message. They asked me for my PayPal too.
@JUST_ONE_ID10T
@JUST_ONE_ID10T 6 месяцев назад
There was an extra chip on the amazon one. Could be made in different factories all for Milwaukee. When you are holding them side by side at the top right the amazon has an extra chip on the board.
@mrnonofyourbusiness2281
@mrnonofyourbusiness2281 7 месяцев назад
lol I’d almost prefer the fitment to be tighter, but no way I’d pay $70 for a counterfeit product, should be $10
@rickoneill4343
@rickoneill4343 7 месяцев назад
That little missing piece on the ebay one... That's the temp sensor! Very important especially on a aftermarket product which prob did not go through safety checks. I highly recommend no on ever use those.
@Prideofthepacific808
@Prideofthepacific808 4 месяца назад
I live in hawaii where amazon will not ship any power tool brand batteries. Lot of people buy from E-bay and get knockoffs because homedepot in hawaii charges ridiculous prices for batteries.
@daver1427
@daver1427 Месяц назад
Press and hold the check button.... The lights will flash a series of "codes"... a status code, a days since first charge, a cycles of charging, a battery type / status??
@Eurypsi
@Eurypsi 2 месяца назад
They're a damn good imitation. They lasted the exact same length of time. Honestly it's probably just made in a different region
@J.C...
@J.C... 5 месяцев назад
How the heck did you get "he wants me to go get the label" from "let me know the logistics cost and I will pay you." To me that says, tell me how much shipping is and I'll send you the money. You don't have to purchase a shipping label for that. 🤦🤦🤦 I swear people have zero sense these days.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 6 месяцев назад
What the heck eBay! Glad your Amazon pack was legit. I have a video about one I bought from a seller on Amazon and it was a good clone, but was indeed fake. Yours does look legit though. The seller mentioned that they did not know it, maybe so they did refund very quickly so kudos for that! Thanks for sharing!
@twist7558
@twist7558 7 месяцев назад
Unless I am looking for some old collectible I do not shop at ebay anymore. It is almost always a scam and I am so over it.
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 6 месяцев назад
Home Depot has “special buys of the day” and they put Milwaukee batteries on there. You need to check every day. They have two 6.0 high outputs and two 8.0 high outputs for $275. They offer this every couple weeks.
@spinb
@spinb Месяц назад
Good advice. With a little patience, HD will eventually have good deals on every Milwaukee tool. Plus no worries about counterfeit products.
@cliffordmontana4562
@cliffordmontana4562 Месяц назад
@@spinb thanks. The Forge 6.0s are already on sale! It was a couple days ago. It was around $650 for four of them. Within a year the Forges will have great sales and will barely cost more than the high output batteries.
@ramsey1604
@ramsey1604 Месяц назад
thanks for making this
@CPthetooladdict
@CPthetooladdict 7 месяцев назад
Yeah Chris I get what you're saying I would definitely check with Milwaukee though to verify those look like older batteries is all but but Amazon and eBay are both gateways to China being able to sell products and Circumventing logistics as well as being able to sell in a global market that's why it turns into a problem. Great video And I do agree
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 7 месяцев назад
I thought maybe they were older at first but the fact that it was fully charged and only took a minute to get the green light on the charger means it couldn't be that old. They lose charge when they sit around.
@theone2be33
@theone2be33 7 месяцев назад
And in reality batteries should NEVER be fully charged when being shipped.
@CPthetooladdict
@CPthetooladdict 7 месяцев назад
​@@nnkhmiscI'm curious what Milwaukee has to say about it nonetheless I think that would be pretty cool...I will say Milwaukee seems to be the biggest one knocked off it is extremely tough to tell the difference so alot of consumers are getting bamboozled. It's good that you did this video to bring awareness nonetheless so I hope it helps people!!😊
@natarem
@natarem 7 месяцев назад
So many font and feel differences. Makes me feel better about some of the Makitas that I have that I wasn't 100% sure about (just things that came bundled on ebay, stuff like that). Now I think they're real because I really couldn't spot any differences side by side with known genuine ones. I do have one Sony FZ100 (camera battery) that is definitely fake, that was a pretty easy spot for the same reasons (fonts, sticker, etc) but surprisingly it works pretty well. I just don't trust it for fire reasons, not going to risk an expensive camera to save $25.
@hillustration
@hillustration 16 дней назад
Not looking to start a whole thing, but are the Milwaukee tools really worth the extra money if you're just a DIY type?
@vacuuman9150
@vacuuman9150 5 месяцев назад
I got a fake M18 High Output XC 6.0 from Amazon yesterday it was harder to put the battery on a tool, the letters and fonts were off, all leds are dim and light off all at once instead of in a sequence, i took it apart and it looks exactly like the fake one off of ebay in this video.
@IowaMountains
@IowaMountains 2 месяца назад
Ive had two milwaukee hand both switches didn't last a week. They refuse warranty work. All other tools seem great but circular saws don't last
@Waterdawgtwo
@Waterdawgtwo 6 месяцев назад
Such a scam! Thanks for confirming what I’ve been seeing. We use the M18 on a buffer and two knock off batteries failed within 4 months and on the same day! The Milwaukee batteries are still going strong. However, the M12 batteries seem to be less reliable/equally reliable to the knockoffs. I’ve gone through 6 of those and it’s been 50/50 with OG vs knockoff.
@Galaxywolf712
@Galaxywolf712 6 месяцев назад
you can do a chargeback with your bank or with paypal if you payed with paypal
@majorahole
@majorahole 7 месяцев назад
I wouldn't trust Amazon either. You can get fake batteries there too
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 3 месяца назад
I opened my 6ah I got from eBay due to learning this. Everything looks very legit within it has a rev z board so some components are a little different than yours but whatever.
@carlaustin7398
@carlaustin7398 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info.
@josephmerz2666
@josephmerz2666 4 месяца назад
great review, thankyou .
@bleyz3557
@bleyz3557 6 месяцев назад
20 seconds difference between fake and real seems way to close for me. Would love to see them tested side be side on torque test channel so maybe it is possible to do it if you still have them on hand. Runtime is one thing but discharge of those cells and voltage sag is different story.
@rotaryenginepete
@rotaryenginepete 6 месяцев назад
I bought a very good deep-fake M18 12AH from Amazon last year, and then the seller Southern Supplies closed their account. When the battery started acting up I sent it into Milwaukee for warranty service and they denied it saying it wasn't Milwaukee. That was a nightmare to prove and get refunded, but Amazon did finally pull through.
@--JohnDoe
@--JohnDoe 6 месяцев назад
I bought a m12 6ah on ebay. Reported it as fake to ebay and ebay gave me a full refund.
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 6 месяцев назад
I ended up getting a full refund on this one. Just took a couple weeks
@foxwood67
@foxwood67 6 месяцев назад
I have over 800 eBay purchases but very few over the last couple years. They side with the sellers instead of consumers. This is due to their struggles to to compete with amazon If the battery has more than 1 bar lit out of the package it’s a fake. I’ve gotten a couple from eBay but shipped them back Make sure if you buy from eBay it’s a local seller.
@blueback21
@blueback21 6 месяцев назад
Excellent dissection of the details eBay should be embarrassed and give you a full refund
@259Den3
@259Den3 6 месяцев назад
Had a similar experience with ebay seller misrepresenting chainsaw blades. I received a full refund, but the seller is still listing the items on ebay.
@JWimpy
@JWimpy 6 месяцев назад
Just because you order one from Amazon does not mean it is not fake. Many sellers on Amazon sell counterfeit items. I ordered two Milwaukee batteries from Amazon and they were very cheap copies and did not hold a charge even half as long as some of my old batteries. The seller's store on Amazon was even listed as "Milwaukee Store".
@TheHomePros6221
@TheHomePros6221 7 месяцев назад
Very interesting great video Chris!! I have some knockoff makita batteries and they are trash compared to real ones
@johnperez93640
@johnperez93640 6 месяцев назад
Milwaukee doesnt have a battery manufacturing facility. They go to battery manufacturing plants and ask if they can produce batteries that meet their standards. They make some for quality control testing, and if it meets the standards, they sign a contract and there they go. Not every facility has the same exact equipment to make battery packs, theyre gona be slightly different.
@JUST_ONE_ID10T
@JUST_ONE_ID10T 6 месяцев назад
The seller is responsible for paying return shipping. If they don't send you a shipping label. Ebay will refund you without sending it back. I've had that happen a few times for items that were not what they said they were and were listed as being from the US. And I wouldn't trust that he would refund you the cost of the return shipping and shipping is very costly going from the US to China.
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments 6 месяцев назад
I bought a counterfeit item on ebay back around 2008 or so. The seller was in China. The cost to send from china to the US is peanuts. The cost to send from the US to China was $80 at the time. Ebay did nothing. Seller did nothing. Tried to dispute the CC charge, (HSBC terrible Chinese bank) and they would not reverse the charge. I just got screwed. Ebay does not have your back. Not then and evidently not now either. I buy everything from reputable dealers now so there's never any issues with warranty. Sure it cost more. There's a reason for that.
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 6 месяцев назад
In this case eBay ended up refunding me and I was able to keep the batteries as well
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 6 месяцев назад
Took a couple weeks though for eBay to step in
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments
@TheKingOfInappropriateComments 6 месяцев назад
@@nnkhmisc there's some new federal laws about counterfeit good online so eBay can get in some hot water and they should
@thatguyagain2693
@thatguyagain2693 6 месяцев назад
When I first got into the milwaukee line, I bought quite a few batteries on ebay that looking at them now, I believe most if not all are fake. I mean they work, but I don't think they're "genuine"
@andrewchristiansen8311
@andrewchristiansen8311 6 месяцев назад
eBay got me with a Tecumseh manual. This guy sold reproductions, but had a picture of the real thing. Real manuals have glossy thick pages almost as thick as a playing card & say Litho in USA. The one I was sent had pages like a newspaper & broke from the spine when I first opened it. He acted like it was no big deal & "Listen to yourself so mad over a book". When he showed pix of the real one, & sold a fake. I got my money back then got a real one.
@napa7m115
@napa7m115 Месяц назад
Can you open them? Look and compare the batteries. Also I believe the genuine batteries bring a fancy motherboard, and the fake ones don't.
@k20909
@k20909 5 месяцев назад
Bought m12 of eBay really cheap new 2years now no problems
@robhunter2435
@robhunter2435 6 месяцев назад
The battery from Ebay is a dead giveaway with its full charge. Every battery I have purchased from Homedepot has 1 bar of charge
@djviolett8344
@djviolett8344 6 месяцев назад
ebay does not kick these sellers off. I’ve gone to great lengths to prove a seller was selling counterfeits and report them but ebay ended up removing the negative feedback I left on the sellers page and the seller is doing it to plenty of ebay users for months now
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 7 месяцев назад
I do use a knockoff Makita ( I knew I was buying it) but its only used for occasional light work, never put on a charger in the house. I will be buying a genuine battery soon, they are 54.00.
@fierceflyer5
@fierceflyer5 7 месяцев назад
Good luck getting ebay to do anything for you. They used to be great to customers now they always side with sellers. Please give updates on what ebay did. I know everyone will want to know how they handle counterfeit items & returns of them.
@arthouston7361
@arthouston7361 4 месяца назад
Ebay fired nearly everyone that helped make them successful. All those people responding to revelations about counterfeit items cost them too much money.
@vevenaneathna
@vevenaneathna 6 месяцев назад
lol wholesale the lithium batteries in these modules cost ~10$ for regular ones, about double that for highcap. confused why theyre so expensive
@martinkesler5999
@martinkesler5999 3 месяца назад
could it be GREED.....................?
@fabienpics
@fabienpics 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very wellknow .👍👍👍👍
@paynemeikle5853
@paynemeikle5853 6 месяцев назад
The off brand batteries are better then oem. They use the same internals at a 1/4 the cost. I only buy waitley batteries
@tokshorts8407
@tokshorts8407 6 месяцев назад
I had the same issue and I had to get eBay involved because I wasn't giving my PayPal info or purchasing a label to ship to China! Image is real but carded batteries are fake
@Obs_Farm
@Obs_Farm 7 месяцев назад
We need a toolbox tour
@benjaminsmith5811
@benjaminsmith5811 7 месяцев назад
Thank you
@flea4061
@flea4061 3 месяца назад
I don't think they are fake. They are "other market" batteries, made to a lower standard.
@dougderby9454
@dougderby9454 6 месяцев назад
The number of fake items I have seen in person from both Amazon and eBay. Car parts and tools. Is staggering.
@OO-xc7zg
@OO-xc7zg 6 месяцев назад
THANKS! 👍👍
@bigdaddy4975
@bigdaddy4975 5 месяцев назад
That blower has a locking trigger
@WombleUK
@WombleUK 6 месяцев назад
I have raised this issue of Chinese sellers being listed as UK seller loads of times & Ebay just do not care. You filter results to display UK only sellers but when you click on the seller information it clearly has Chinese address & details. Every time I have complained they have said they will look into it, which is just a blatant lie. Ebay could solve this completely with 5 minutes of coding but they refuse to.
@solomonshv
@solomonshv 6 месяцев назад
both dewalt and milwaukee use multiple sub contractors for their batteries. in the case of dewalt, the batteries are actually different in color, depending on the ODM who made it. they can be pale yellow, yellow-green or yellow-orange. they even have different shells. some dewalt 4ah and 5ah XR batteries have a grip at the front while others dont. and they are all legit. in regards to milwaukee, the springs are different from batch to batch. so playing with the latch release button will tell you nothing. the only way to know if your milwaukee battery is real is to take it apart and see what cells are inside. real milwaukee XC 6 battery will have grey samsung 30T cells inside. fakes typically have molicel or random no name chinese cells inside.
@MontanaWelldigger
@MontanaWelldigger 6 месяцев назад
Ebay/paypal works great if you're dealing with an honest seller, have an issue and you're going to have so many hoops to jump through its almost impossible to get any justice.
@LongLiveTheBeat
@LongLiveTheBeat 18 дней назад
My batteries guts don’t look the same, and they’re all from Amazon lol
@jimmyflowers6597
@jimmyflowers6597 6 месяцев назад
You have to be careful with those counterfeit batteries they don't have the shut off in there when they overheat so they just catch fire and burn your garage and house down
@jcdadfire884
@jcdadfire884 7 месяцев назад
Fair warning to anyone looking to buy Amazon Milwaukee batteries: I bought an M12 RedLithium XC 4.0 from Amazon for like $50 about a year ago (a highly related posting of what claimed to be Milwaukee battery). When it arrived it would not take a charge (red and green flashing light). At first I thought it was because the battery was cold from sitting outside so I didn’t think anything of it. It never took a charge and did not work. Upon closer inspection it was clearly a counterfeit (lettering and materials were off in similar way as Chris’s). Unfortunately I could not get a refund or return it because that seller had already been removed by Amazon, thus confirming it was a counterfeit. The listing is still up and I’m guessing i was one of the unlucky few who got ripped off before the scammer was taken down by Amazon.
@randy89romeo
@randy89romeo 6 месяцев назад
Dude same thing happened to me with the same seller! I sent them the batteries back like it said to that cali address, they supposed to give me a full refund but the a*hole only sent me back half of what I pay for it not including the shipping label from fedex that came out of my pocket 😂😂 Soo lesson learned 😂
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck 6 месяцев назад
send them to the torque test channel and they can test and report on a much larger scale
@ericl1166
@ericl1166 7 месяцев назад
The picture on the seller's listing you showed is of the Amazon packaging, not the packaging you actually got.
@nnkhmisc
@nnkhmisc 7 месяцев назад
Yeah. That was the first thing I told him in my message to him. However it does match the genuine packaging that I saw at home Depot. But yeah clearly he just used a stock image that didn't match his product
@lotsatrains
@lotsatrains 7 месяцев назад
I had a similar problem with a car cd player that I bought from a USA seller and was sold as “free returns “ it turns out that the cd player only worked in my wife’s car and not mine so I wanted to return it and they sent me a bogus return address so I actually called eBay and I ended up getting a full refund and was able to keep the item anyway.
@ArmandoLopez-c7j
@ArmandoLopez-c7j 5 месяцев назад
Look around the packaging on the plastic it has a bunch of little circles and the ones on eBay it doesn’t
@ArmandoLopez-c7j
@ArmandoLopez-c7j 5 месяцев назад
The one on eBay has say different packaging it looks more generic
@Drewzer154
@Drewzer154 6 месяцев назад
Every one of those listings on eBay look suspicious a/f. Low feedback, location doesn't match, newer accounts, most of them are only selling the batteries.
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