For someone like me who is looking to go back into riding casually, at the age of 77 I found your post very helpful and informative. I have watched many posts regarding e-bikes and have found myself becoming more and more confused regarding what "powers" what "battery" what "etc etc". you are the first I have watched that has given a definitive explanation of what E-bikes can/will do. Thanks for giving a complete beginner a good insight as to what I actually want and need.
Hi there, what ebike kit did you get in the end, and what's it like to ride. Its not easy cycling at the age of 77, beyond most. I hope you managed to get back into cycling, with or without electric power, either way, a great achievment
I fitted a yose power 350w kit to my boardman road bike. Covered over 6000 miles on it commuting 24miles a day. Takes me approx 35min to cover the 12 miles to and from work. Ive been using it for just over a year now. Its been great. Saved over £1400 in fuel! Easily paid for it self! 👍
@@mick2u960 wheel size is 700c, battery 36v 12ah. Top speed is about 22mph with pedaling if you choose not to restrict the assist. Using just the throttle is good for about 19 mph but it will slow right down on hills and will only be good for about 10 miles.
@@voodoochild800 thanks for the response, so the email response that i received from YosePower service shown in my previous post was correct. ( I am thinking of getting the 15ah battery, my wheel size is also 700c)
I have a board man to and after watching this video and hearing what you have said about the kit IAM going to be getting the same kit has you and the video thanks for your comments
Yose should definetly paying you for this series of videos. Excellently and very professionally done. Will order one for my Kilimandscharo Cross Bike... Thank you for the entertaining way of presenting your project.
Another excellent video. Best ebike review I've seen by far, and I've watched loads. This is definitely the kit for me. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Thanks.Good video.May I mention that fitting a crash bung or bolt to the hollow side of the axle further protects from a lowside spill or drop( handily there usually is a threaded mount just where necessary) Also those cutout brake sensors avoid braking against the motor as the pedal assist doesn't quite stop exactly when the pedals do.Last of my observations is that the most common problem in conversion is using a donor bike that differs from the necessary specifications. Thanks again for your skills.
Well made and imfomative video! Thankyou! I fitted one of these kits to my MTB last year (20223) and had similar concerns regarding the robustness of the battery mounting sytem! My solution was to fit 3 x Stainles Steel 6"dia Adjustable Hose/Duct Clamps around the downtube and the battery. Works like a charm and is totally secure! Pack of 6 from Amazon for £6.
I've watched all 3 of your Yose Power videos. Thank you soo much for taking the time to do these. I agree with someone else's comment saying these videos are the best they've seen. You've made my decision much easier and ordering one today 👍 Subscribed! Looking forward to more videos from you.
Great video so well put together you went over all of the points i have been looking at this kit since before Christmas and after watching your review this is the kit iam going to be purchasing thanks again good video
The speed going down when you pedaling more slowly, it's because i guest is from the keep current % settings setup from Yose. When you reach your top speed the controller reduce the Amp to that percentage choosen by manufacturer. Example you have 11amp current controller. But the keep current is 60%. What's happen after is, the controller reduce your 396w (11x36v) power to 60% 237w , then you can notice little decrease of the speed and power lost.
Excellent video and commentary. The most useful one I have seen explains the various settings and performance brilliantly. Well done, and well worth watching!
Good and helpful vids. I've bought this kit, made a wooden battery mount to get three screw fixings into the plastic mount. Time will tell.. thanks for your time and effort...
Thanks for the awsome video series on this kit ! You really got me of the fence on ordering one .can't wait for it to arrive and put it together . Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
I have the same kit on a 26" Specialized Hardrock MTB. It is excellent. I only installed the throttle (no pedal sensors). I have done 47 miles at an average speed of 15.4 mph, (90% on tarmac). I have also done 25 miles at an average speed of 12.6mph, proper cross-country with about 60% on tarmac. I always pedal and I have yet to run out of battery. It is especially good on rough tracks, allowing me to maintain speeds of around 18-20mph which makes dull bridleways interesting again. To answer Anthony - the Yose 'cassette kits' currently listed say 8, 9 or 10 speed cassettes.
Good overall review and has answered most of my questions. I will seriously consider this option for my Carrera Subway hybrid bike. Thankyou for taking the time a great video.
Thanks for your video, looking forward to seeing you do some steeper hills to see how it performs. Just been reading that the motor provides 56Nm of Torque so it should do quite well on hills!
He never did another video, so we will never know how this kit performs on hills. Just testing the kit on flat roads is pointless,so I found this review useless, and won't ne buying this kit
56nm of torque on a 350w motor will provide excellent assistant uphills at around about 10% gradient. If you're talking the steepest of steep hills like 14% Plus, most ebikes are going to struggle unless you've got a 500 w motor or above
I wish I had seen this video before ordering a Decathlon Rockrider at £900. I could have fitted it to my Giant XTC 4.5 Just received the Rockrider in a terrible state, it is going back, so I will be getting a kit.
Great video 👍 Just bought this kit, looking forward to fitting it and getting out further on the bike again, currently surrounded by very steep hills and very loooong incline hills, this hub kit looks to make uphill climbs effortless
Brilliant video looks a great kit thanks for explaining the pedal assist modes I had the same bike as you but it got stolen what a brilliant bike got to get the kit you’re using 💯
i have a 2015 Kona fire mountain MTB 17" frame with 27.5" wheels. i think this kit would be ideal, might be my daily rider to work which is a 20 mile round trip. nice video.
Just bought this kit from amazon, and I'm struggling to reach 19 MPH on a straight!! Honestly, I don't know how you are doing 23 MPH without effort as you mention on your video !! That makes me think How genuine your video is and what kit you are using? Did yose power send you a ebike kit??
Did you adjust your max speed? Also will depend on your weight and weight of bike etc. I tend to get a couple miles an hour less than stated here at each level but weight, terrain and head wind will all make a difference.
Also, did you fiddle with your controller settings? My kit came with the controller amperage set to 13a. I raised it to 17a (it's a 18a rated controller) since I know a guy who's running his Yose kit at 17a with no issues. That will give you a lot more power.
Thank you for sharing. I have the same kit and found the battery cradle to a bit flimsy, but I drilled the frame and fitted riv nuts on all 3 fixing points and its very sturdy now. The brake cut off levers are a good feature and its worth fitting at least one of them, the design of the throttle means that if it fails it will go full throttle, if that did happen the brake cut off, could potentially be a life saver. I used the cut off switch that came with the kit, I cut the v brake lever apart and removed the cable, it has a small micro switch, used some heat shrink to better waterproof it and adapted it to my hydraulic levers.👍😊🚴
I did the same with riv nuts on a carrera vengeance, I use the original bottle bolts on the bottom and drilled and fitted two riv nuts on the top end and it's very sturdy.
@@peroduanippa It does make a big difference using all 3 fixing points, I must add that I'm a short arse, so I ride a small frame and had to invest in a right angle drill attachment to successfully drill the holes but it was well worth it.😊
@@michaelfowell223 Thanks for the reply, I already had a right angle drill attachment even though it took some finding in my cluttered garage, it's not a tool that gets used much but great when needed, I put another question on the subject and perhaps you could help, I was wondering what the reading on the screen means for example 418 BMS, the number varies during use.
@@peroduanippa I've not had that come up on my display, so not sure but I know BMS stands for Battery Management System, its the circuitry that controls the balancing of the cells when charging it may also control the balancing of the discharging too. I assume its a diagnostic read out, hope that sheds some light on it for you.😊
@@eddoherty2263 Back in stock now slightly cheaper on eBay at around £360 at the minute www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36V12-5Ah-Battery-36V350W-Ebike-Conversion-Kit-26-Rear-Hub-Motor-Freewheel/223887649276?hash=item3420be69fc:g:ImgAAOSwTs9eT2da
Hi, thanks for the video ! Excellent and very detailed...I have a question about the installation: the bulge washer that stops the wheel axe turning doesn’t seem to sink all the way in to the drop. I have a Carrera Vulcan too and when installing the wheel I wandered if there was anything wrong and if the bulge should sink flush all the way without being visible ? Thanks again for the excellent and informative video. Mario
Silly question, I ride every day , somewhere between 10 -20 miles , I have a giant reign full sus , quite a heavy bike , it maintains my fitness pretty well, I want to fit the conversation kit your using , will I become more unfit , or , do you think that more miles will compensate for the low effort required , curious , great video by the way
Excellent video. Was yours a cassette gear set or freewheel? Also, where did you buy it from. Prices on amazon are currently about £400 (Feb2023), which is significantly more than the £300 you quoted.
Update... I tried to order the kit from the official Yose Power site. I'm in the UK and the site offers an option to deliver to the UK. However, after committing to the purchase the site allowed me to order and took the money. Then the following day had an email saying they do not ship to the UK due to "Brexit" (after) taking the money. Clearly they need to update their website to remove the option to deliver to the UK.... They did however offer a full refund straight away. But all could have been avoided if the website was up to date with their shipping policies.
Was recommended this video by a friend whose advised me of purchasing this kit. Seems decent enough and thank you for the good review. I have two main questions: I’m assuming the battery is easily detachable for charging? Does the lcd display have a backlight for night riding? BTW how’s this kit holding up 3 months later? Thanks again.
Hi, there is indeed a backlight. It's not a fancy touch screen display on this particular model, so you can easily operate it without even looking at the screen. Battery is locked in with a key and is easily removable. Mines going well but I've not done anywhere near as many miles as most other people in the comments. Perhaps someone can let us know! I will do some more updates soon.
Hi. I note that you have kept your hydraulic brakes. Are you concerned about the hub failing to cut out? I'm wandering whether to install the hydraulic cut out cables - do you think that is necessary?
Great video. Pretty much has me sold for new job and 16 mile each way commute. Previous 12.5x2 commute was doable manually but now too far. Is there any evidence polis are interested in 350w motors as long as you are pedalling? I assume you can set assistance to stop at 15 mph.
I fitted this kit about 3 weeks ago with a yose 15ah battery. I have been using it to commute to work 24 miles each way in south wales which is fairly hilly commute. It takes about an hour 20 minutes each way and the battery probably will go about another 5-10 miles on power assist 5 (one way as recharge in work for return home). The hills are steep so really do take a lot of effort in addition to power assist so thinking of getting a front motor to add for the hills.
Superb video, would be a good idea to show how to get the best benefits of the motor above 15mph on the display/programming the display etc, or does that need to be done through a PC on that one? Thanks.
Very good point, think I must of overlooked it because it was so easy to do. To override the factory limit of 15mph, you hold down the set button and you can adjust wheel size, mph/km and max speed upto 25mph on this particular kit. Don't need a PC and I don't think this model has any connection apps that I know of.
@@bikeplusone2736 Thank you for your reply. I have the Befang 750w conversion on mine (bbso2b) and it assists me to 25mph on the flat but on the Befang Facebook forums it could apparently assist upto 31mph using a program cable for a variety of different settings etc. I didnt really get it converted for speed but more for torque purposes for climbing off road. However I do like the speed but I might just leave it as the factory setting and convert something bigger for over 30mph.👍🏼
Speed is based, on battery amps, speed controller amps, weight, and battery voltage. My bike is a 1200w kit….my speed controller is 30Amps, my battery has a BMS of 30Amps….this = 900 KWatts….my 1200w hub motor can handle that power all day long, my top speed is 35 miles an hour. If you take a 350w motor, and ad my speed controller, and my battery….it’s gonna burn out eventually…top speed will be faster than 35MPH. Battery volts = acceleration, battery Continuous amps, and speed controller amps = top speed….a average wallmart bike isn’t made to go above 20MPH. My bike has a 48v 17ah 30amp BMS….AH is important as well’ that determines distance. In the future I’m gonna go with a 52v 13AH 40BMS battery …..40+ mph will be achieved, distance will suffer….speed controller will run hotter….if I get a 40amp speed controller= 1600KW, my hub motor will run hotter.
Hi , I have a Carerra Crossfire ebike which has developed a motor error fault. I am thinking of getting a rear hub wheel kit that would run of it's original battery. The original battery is 36V and 11amp. Would this ebike kit fit my bike.
Hi if you not use the motor it can feel if you just pedaling harder to pedal? In the box send a pair of break if i have oil break can i use the system without the sended pair break? And whiteout the pedal assist also work the motor if i don't want to add the bike?
Hi thanks for the informative video. May I ask did you order this via the UK option ? and if so did it come from the UK supplier? I am considering one of these but don't want to find myself thinking I have ordered from the UK ans being stung for import duty. Thanks
I have this on my bike has anyone cleaned it and did you have any problems with the electrics don't want to mess up my electrics! Any help would be appreciated!
Fantastic review, thank you for doing that. I'm looking at a build for commuting but have a 1/2 mile 10 percent hill to climb so I'm very interested to know your thoughts on how your set up would handle that. I'm really looking for something that takes most the effort for me as I know one of my knees would struggle. Cheers
Would have been nice to see how much the bolts dropped on your outing. I fitted the same unit to mine last week and I feel like I might have a faulty unit. I know every situations different from terrain and hills etc but I guess I'm curious how other people's voltage rate dropping varies
Just bought and fitted one of these. It worked intermittently to start with, now seems completely dead. Battery measures 41.5V at both charge and discharge ports, and all connections are correct (it worked briefly.) Wonder if the controller is faulty? I've contacted Yose Power. Anyone else experience this?
I have the same kit. Your problem is very vague. When you say 'completely dead' do you mean no display at all? Or it switches on but the motor doesn't turn?
Yes, I read on a forum. You need to order a new controller and display from Yose. Install them and that will enable you to full throttle and higher top speed (via the controller settings). You needs these two parts because they come unlocked, unlike the ones you get on 250w kits.
I've only done about 130 miles altogether on mine so far, but in my most recent outing I did about 32 miles on one charge. I live in a very flat area, so you may well get much less than that if your ride is hilly. I helped the motor out by pedalling hard enough to keep the bike in "Eco" mode a lot of the time and only using assistance level 5 on long, straight, smooth roads. Mostly I stayed at assistance level 3, because I wanted to know what the range might be in normal use. I didn't want to run the battery down completely, so there might have been a few more miles in it. I can't speak for longevity obviously, but it seems fairly robust to me. Another thing I like about it is that it's very quiet.
Yes that's possible, but you really do want the pedal assist sensor installed as well. Your ebike will be much faster and the battery will last much longer if you don't use the throttle switch.
Hi mate, i build few days ago 24inch Carrera bike for my son. Yose front hub 250w, i just setup the peak power to 550w. It's hit 27mp/h with me 105kg-189cm. (Good pedaling) otherwise 22-23 miles easy. I planning now to convert my wife bike with yose 350w, what battery you use and average what mileage you can cover with pedaling?
@@SoarificHi there I'm sry i replied so so late. So there is a Hidden menu and i just increase the Amps of the controller for a bit more power. Is not helping to get more speed ,it's helping you to get that speed faster.
I did this build later for my wife bike btw. And use same kit 350w with battery and integrated controller. Very clean and nice build. 22-3mph is a decent speed for everything ❤
For me it's was just over 30 miles on full assist, around 50 miles on low assist. It's varies from person to person though. A person's weight obviously matters but also if you can keep up a decent rate of pedalling on flats, then the motor dosent draw the full power it can, even though you may have it on max assist.
@@bikeplusone2736 If you ride with the lcd reading the battery voltage you can see how much you draw, if you pedal faster you'll see when no power is taken.
They recommend that you only need torque arms on 500 watt and above, but they are a good safety feature and its better to be safe than sorry. I have this exact kit and I fitted a torque arm, a homemade one, out of a old gate hinge.😊👍
