Thank you for the continued support, Maxx! 👍🏻 Unfortunately, the Ultra Beast 2 is still sold out. Unless you go with the Juggernaut Ultra Duo 3, which is a great mid-drive bike, you're going to be waiting either way. 🤷🏼♂️ I've had the Beast for almost a year, and at the time my decision was between the Ultra Beast 2 and Ultra Duo 3. lddy.no/11uc6
@@twowheeltim i love the look/size of ultra beast two but i need the more torque whenOFFROAD. and when i seen you hit 46mph. WOW and thats only with a 1000w motor.
@@twowheeltim still thanks great my bike will not go pasted 41mph, they motor cutsout i have full pedal whole way it just starts bkinda breaking over 42.
Thanks for the video. I’ve been trying to figure out if I can go to a 3” tire but now I have that I can at least go to the 3.5 I’ve already had my tires off to patch and fill with slime. There are some nasty thorns in southern Oregon. I was about 10 miles out and got flats in both tires. Long story Thanks again
I haven't checked how narrow a tire one can run on a fat tire rim. I suspect 3-inches would definitely be a minimum, but I'd have to research more. The 3.5s are perfect, though. I'm not a huge slime fan. I like Mr. Tuffy tire liners, personally, but they're obviously more expensive and more labor-intensive to install. Once they're in, though... 👍🏻 But if you get into nasty thorns like goat-heads, they're the worst!!
I was on a road trip and got into a bunch of the goats heads. We don’t have them in western Oregon, I had never heard of them. Very nasty. Anyway, the slime was readily available and tubes and liners weren’t. Clearly the slime adds some weight but it’s keeping the tires inflated for the time being. I’ll probably go to the liners if I change tires. I’m also carrying an electric pump, patches and tools. It’s a heavy push if you can’t repair a flat
To be honest, though, I've seen some goat heads that could probably puncture a tire liner, too! They're kind of the extreme of tire hazards outside of something you'd build your house with! 😆
I have the same tires but the wire bead version. The wire bead version has a higher tpi which helps with preventing puncture. It won’t prevent them but will make a tuffer tire.
Just got the same tires put on my Beast today. It's a lot faster and quitter. And notice it turns quicker as well. Probably take time to get use to the feel of the turning.
They're great, right? I'll put the Minions back on if I decide to do any off roading in the summer, but the Speedsters are perfect for road and perform well on hard-pack and moderately soft terrain. Enjoy! 👍🏻
I have had 5 flats between 2 E-Lux Tahoe's with these damn tires. They handle well and they're quiet, but do not hold up for sh*t. I have Tuffy Liners on all 3 e-bikes too.
Sorry to hear that. I've had one flat in nearly two years, so everyone has a different experience. Did you get the 120 tpi kevlar bead version, or the cheaper 72 tpi wire bead version? That may be contributing to your bad luck. 🤷🏼♂️
The Zigzag is a bit smoother and kind of resembles a car tire, of sorts. Given how smooth the tread pattern looks, I'm sure they're even faster than Speedsters; I've never tried them. But I really wanted a smoother tire that would have a small amount of grip on hardpack dirt, and the Speedsters have not disappointed at all. I've actually never heard of Huntsman, so I'll have to look them up. 👍🏻
Hi Bojan. Thank you for the positive support! Yes, they will fit. My rims are a 100mm outer width and 93mm inner width where the bead of the tire seats in the rim; the tires fit perfectly. I won't get into the somewhat confusing details of specific tire measurement and fitment, but the tires are rated to fit fat bike rims measuring between 75mm (around 3 inches) up to 100mm (around 4 inches).
Thank you so much for the positive support! I did change the tubes. I purchased some 26x3.5-4.0" tubes because the 4.8-5.0" tubes could be more susceptible to pinch flats on the smaller tire.
Did you see a bigger difference in speed 🤔 because any fat tire that looks like that should be faster well I know they will fit on my electric bicycle now that I seen the video thanks 😊
I definitely noticed a difference in speed, handling, feel, and sound. It descends faster, corners better, doesn't vibrate, and the tires are quiet. I really notice improved climbing and slightly better range, as well. Of course, I kept the Maxxis Minions because they'll be fantastic when I decide to start riding off-road.
Likening your videos Tim, and my newly acquired ultra beast. But I too am looking to switch tires for the same reason as others. What about inner tube size for these tires on the ultrabeast rims?
Thank you for the positive support, and you ask a great question! I ordered new 26x3.5-4.0" Mongoose tubes from Amazon because I was concerned about the possibility of pinch flats with a 4.5-5.0" tube in a 3.5" tire. Here's the Amazon a non-affiliate link to the tubes I bought: Mongoose Fat Tire Bike Tube,... www.amazon.com/dp/B01CGDW290?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
My pleasure! I've flatted 3 times in the 2 1/2 years since I installed these tires, and all 3 times it was the rear tire. Given my weight, the weight of the ebike, and just how notorious my area is for glass and other debris in the bike lanes and on paths, that's a great ratio in my opinion. Also, none of the 3 flats were caused by glass. It has always been a type of thicker nail, like a fence post nail or roofing nail. Thus, I'd say comparatively speaking, no, they don't puncture easily. I hope that helps. 👍🏻
Sure! I actually got it about 20 years ago when I worked in a bike shop. The company is now called Feedback Sports and the stands sells for $330 US. If you're in Canada, however, someone shared that the markup is HUGE (like $750!!). Here's a link to the new version of my stand, but you may be able to find something a little less expensive. Just be sure it's a tripod-style stand and will hole the weight of your bike (without batteries, preferably). Best of luck. Feedback Sports Pro Elite Repair Stand www.amazon.com/dp/B001CSPTSC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_S0Q0PXTZHG9CP019XB6T?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Oh, and thank you so much for the positive feedback. We did a near 45-mile ride yesterday and I'll have video with feedback on battery longevity. Stay tuned. 👍🏻
Great videos on the Beast! I am in Analysis Paralysis land in terms of getting my first ebike. I love the burly, go-anywhere look of the Beast but I live in Denver, CO and would mostly be using my ebike to zip around town doing errands and meeting up with friends with occasional use on dirt trails (I have a regular MTB for serious off road use). Wondering if you feel the Beast would work for mostly city use on roads and bike paths. Too much bike for that or not? I am also looking at the Evelo Atlas on the other side of the spectrum.. I’d love to get your feedback as a Beast owner?
I chose the Beast specifically for it's size and the fact that it can handle about 380 lbs. I'm nearly 300 lbs and I plan to do some touring while carrying gear in panniers and pulling a trailer. I swapped out the Maxxis Minions and put on the Vee Speedsters and I'm finding them to be a great all-purpose tire; although, I'd recommend a different tire for ice/snow. That said, I'm super stoked on the Beast for its brawn and it's size. Most e-bikes are rated between 250-275 lbs and have short geometries. I'm about 6'-1" and the size of the Beast feels perfect to me. Sooo, long story longer, for my size and my primary intentions the Beast has worked out perfectly. I did a ton of research from how/where the bikes are built, to weight ratings, to components, to geometry, to the fact that someone in a real bike shop actually touches these bikes. I also like the fact that I can throw the Maxxis Minions back on and go ride single track and fire roads. Not sure if any this helps you, but if you need a bigger bike and want brawn and versatility the Beast is a good option. Just beware this is a hugh-jass bike and is likely much heavier than the average e-bike--about 80 lbs with batteries, I suppose (never actually weighed it). I really hope this helps. Best wishes! 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim Really appreciate your thoughts on this! Yes, that definitely does help. Sounds like you found the perfect bike for your needs. At 185' and just shy of 6' I'm thinking I may stick with a bit less "beastly" (had to throw that in) ride at this point. :) However, I have to admit that I'm a bit envious that you're able to fully wrangle the Ultra Beast - that is one ba-dass looking bike and really commands the road . Anyway - keep up the great videos. I'm looking forward to seeing some touring footage! Subbed!
Thank you. I will. Elaine and I took Hazel out for a 45-mile ride last weekend. I'm still working on that video and should have it published before Thanksgiving. She borrowed my friend's Sondors XC for that ride, which is a pretty decent bike, as well. It's just super small for me and a bit too beefy for her. I bought Elaine a Biktrix Juggernaut Hub Duo which just arrived Wednesday. I built it up and we took it for a quick evening spin that night and she LOVES it! We've both been working, however, and haven't been able to do anything substantial. Tomorrow we're going out for a longer ride with Hazel and I'll be capturing it on video, so stay tuned. :)
If you switch from a four inch to a three and a half inch tire do you lose any top speed due to the smaller circumstance. I have been considering this tire for my hay bike brawn.
This tire is actually much faster than a larger knobby tire. Less rubber on the road means less contact/friction, and a smoother tire is much faster and more efficient on the battery. I love the Vee Speedsters.
@Adventures of Two-Wheel Tim. I know it will roll better and get more miles per battery. But I was thinking that smaller circumference will lower the gear ratio giving me more torque and a little less top end. I could stay with a four inch, but I think my coasting would be better on the three and a half. Besides the 4" tire looks stupid,and I'm happy to trade a little top end for more range.
I definitely notice quicker get-up-and-go, so in theory I imagine less resistance makes the torque kick in more quickly. I don't think I'd describe as more torque, however. I haven't notice any diminished torque at a higher cadence, and I have noticed I can get around 4-6 mph more top speed.
Specific tire specs can get a bit complicated to explain, so in short I highly recommend against anything narrower. The Vee Speedsters work fine, but their bead size is about as small as you would want to use from a safety standpoint. Anything smaller and you run the risk of bead failure.
It handles wonderfully on pavement as well as gravel roads. Here is a link to a video where I show rides on a variety of terrain. eBike Camping: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xZ7WozKy4xU.html As far longevity, it depends primarily on how much or little pedal assist you use. I never use throttle, and I primarily use PAS 1 and 2, and I'll use PAS on certain climbs. The farthest I've ridden up to this point is about 52 miles while pulling a fully loaded trailer. Without pulling the trailer, I'm confident I could have ridden between 65-75 miles. I did a 4-part video series on a trip from 2022. I pasted the links to these videos below in case you're interested in checking them out. Part 1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FJqHH9D41BY.html Part 2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wdcUwUR7IcQ.html Part 3: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ylzQ9jSOhU.html Part 4: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UZCwwqxKKyc.html
It handles really well, but I changed out because I'm riding mostly road and some dual track fire roads. I wanted a smoother, quieter, and more efficient ride for longer distances. I haven't done an efficiency comparison between the different tires, but based on feel and performance I figure I'm getting and additional 5% distance with the Speedsters. With that said, I still have the stock Maxxis Minion tires and will put them back on if and when I decide to start riding off road. It's just difficult in my area because they've banned eBikes on most trails. 🙄
I'm interested in a 3.5 size rather than the 4.0. Looking for less rolling resistance and looks of course. So, I watched your video, but no shots of them mounted. All we saw were 2.5 seconds.
They're great tires. I show them in most of my videos, but I talk about them a bit more in this video: eBike | Biktrix Ultra Beast 2 | 6-Month Update, Upgrades & a Broken Spoke | Ep. 10 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U7J4O5rAzkg.html
It's a little close, but it wasn't a problem. The sensor has a small rubber cap covering the mounting bolt, so it's easily accessible if need be. The most difficult part was getting the rear wheel back on because you need to get the chain on the cassette while moving the derailleur so you can slide the sides of the hub back into the slots on the dropouts.
Love your videos and bought the bike because of it 😊 On the video your battery died so we couldn’t see how you changed the bike wheel. I’m planning on putting the same tires and would greatly appreciate some step by step advise if a video is not possible. Pretty sure a lot of us would appreciate a video on it 😊 ~Best,
Thank you for the positive support. I'm glad I could help! As far as changing tires go, I'd recommend starting by going to a bike shop and purchasing a couple nice tire levers as these are imperative in removing the tires. I do have another video where I remove the rear wheel to get a broken spoke fixed, and this involved removing and reinstalling the rear tire. I'll find the link and post it for you.
Here's a link for the video where I remove the rear wheel, tire, etc. Honestly, though, I did do a time lapse when putting the tire back on. I still hope it helps, though. 👍🏻 eBike | Wheel Removal & Install | Getting a Broken Spoke Fixed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GDZ1D53FvXQ.html
Hi Tim, how much did the 3.5 tires lower the entire frame of your bike ? The Beast is just a little too tall for me (stand over height) and I’m wondering if going to the 3.5 would give me a little more stand over room between the frame and um “me”. Thanks !
😆 "Um...me!" That's too funny. Honestly, the tires didn't really lower the standover height enough to be noticeable. I'm think if it's too tall for you now, you'd really need a much lower profile tire to make that much of a difference. I'm afraid anything lower profile would become unsafe on such a large rim and heavy, high-torque ebike. You might consider looking at their Ultra Duo 3 model. It's a 1000-watt mid-drive with and even better battery longevity than the Beast. The only thing to keep in mind as that you'd need to buy the second battery and battery mount for the top of the downtube, and the second battery will only fit the medium and large frames. I make this suggestion because I bought Elaine the Hub Duo, which is the Hub-Drive 750-watt version, but it's still a very solid ebike with a full range of capabilities; it hauls my big body no problem. You can also get Ultra Duo models with 26-inch or 27.5-inch wheels. I hope this helps! 👍🏻
I'm very happy to help, and I appreciate your positive feedback. I have to admit that I've been lagging on ebike videos this year because we've had so much rain and flooding since late-December here in California. It's literally flooding again today. I also have a motorcycle channel I just started and have been doing more motorcycle videos this year. But I'll get back to making more ebike videos soon. Best wishes! 👍🏻
Getting these and gonna combine them with flat out and either tannis armor or tuffy liners. Any tips or advice on which to choose? And how have the tires been holding up?
The tires have been amazing! I really love them. If you want something fast and pavement friendly, but has enough tread/traction for hardpack dirt/trails, I highly recommend them. This is a good video to show the kinds of terrain I've ridden: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xZ7WozKy4xU.html I did get a rear flat once when I picked up some type of roofing nail while on a 52-mile ride home on Easter Sunday 2022. It's in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UZCwwqxKKyc.html It went through the Mr. Tuffy Tire liner and green slime didn't help. The Mr. Tuffys are not too bad, but I've seen a lot of people recommend using tannis and flatout. I actually bought flatout to use next time I change out my tubes, but fortunately I'm going on a year now without another flat. *knocking on wood* 😆
Your videos are awesome! I love the Vee Speedster set up for the 26 by 4 Tire. Looks like you've been taking it on mostly paved roads, some packed dirt stuff. @10:54 Have you done any fire roads with it? I couldn't tell in this specific video. Also, I wish Vee made the Speedster for the 27.5 by 3 rim. 😭 do you know of a tire company that does make something similar to the Speedster for the 27.5 x 3 rim? Anyone, anyone?
Thank you for the positive support! I found a wire bead gumwall Vee Speedster in 27.5x3 on Amazon: Vee Tire Speedster Tire 27.5x3.0 Wire MPC Black with Natural Wall www.amazon.com/dp/B092SXSPTM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HN50TA33TQH6DT90592M Not sure if you want a gumwall tire... I've taken the Speedsters on hardpack sand and sand about 2 inches deep, and I've also taken them on a gravel coastal trail (see this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x5Gtqenhj6s.html), but I haven't taken them on a full-on fire road. I would absolutely ride them on hardpack fire roads and even hardpack single track, though.
@@twowheeltim I could do the Gum Wall, and ditch the Aesthetics for the performance. It's more about how to get the least amount of rolling resistance, but still have traction for those times when I need it. So if I understand this correctly, the awesome link you put here was for the 27.5 x 3" version of the tires you're running on your Ultra Beast. Except the only difference is that these 27.5" have a brown sidewall instead of black?
Correct. It’s the Vee Speedster in a 27.5x3.0 inch tire. 👍🏻 It’s being sold on Amazon by a company called BicycleBuys out of New York. It’s a wire bead tire, whereas mine are folding tires, but folding tires are more expensive for, essentially, saving a small amount of weight. I know some other e-bike owners who also bought Vee Speedsters, both folding and wire bead, who love them. Keep in mind that I don’t receive any financial compensation from Amazon, so I have nothing to gain except knowing I helped you find a tire I think you’ll like. 👍🏻
@@twowheeltim Curious, as an update, if you've had any flats since doing the tuffy liner. Are your inner tubes holding up well? And how are the Vee Speedsters doing? How many miles do you have on them now?
At the risk of jinxing myself, no flats since. Tubes are fine, and I have close to 1,000 miles on the Speedsters now. No issues and I still think they’re amazing tires. 👍🏼
I didn't do a specific test to compare, but based on the smoother ride and how much more quickly I can get up to a decent speed I think it's fair to say the range is better. I'd have to put the Maxxis Minions back on and do some similar long rides to confirm. I might try that in the spring or summer. I'd love to do some trail riding with the Maxxis Minions sometime, but the problem I have is that they're so strict where I live that they technically don't allow eBikes on any of our trails. 🙄
Im riding my Troxus from Lincoln Nebraska to Glenwood Springs Colorado in April. A smoother and longer range ride would make it nicer for sure. Too bad to can't trail ride where you are.
Holy cow!! That's a pretty far trek!! You ever consider documenting some of it? I'm planning to start a Facebook group that will allow eBike content creators a place to share their videos and ambassador program links with few restrictions. Most eBike groups don't want people promoting too much, but I want to create a page where people can do just that. As long as it's eBike related and appropriate for all audiences, that is. 🙂
@@twowheeltim I like saying shirley.but I'm getting these for my specialized Fatboy.the ground control tires that came with it are great however I feel for my riding mostly road I want something smoother.i was looking at Innova tire that I may get also but can't find any video reviews online.your review was helpful
Honestly, it's hard to say with 100% certainty because the Beast gets great distance in the first place, and I've lost about 50 lbs since I installed them. 😆 But, the fact that it's much smoother with less vibration and handles so much better, logically I'd have to assume so. My longest ride to date was nearly 52 miles pulling a fully loaded cargo trailer, and I finished with 32% battery left. Here's that video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UZCwwqxKKyc.html
Thank you. Who says ebikes aren't exercise?! 😆 The Vee Speedsters are awesome. If you can pick up a pair, I highly recommend them. Be sure to get the 120 TPI, though, because they're higher rated and are great for ebikes.
@@twowheeltim Just wanted to let you know I picked up a pair, and went for my first ride yesterday. They were great! So much quiter than the stock tires, and they had no problems gripping on some hard pack and even a little muddy spot I had to ride through. Thank you so much for showcasing these on your channel!
@Patrico That's great! I'm glad I could help. I love the tires and have been riding them everywhere. I'm currently editing my camping trip videos and will have a lot of footage riding on gravel paths/roads and rough terrain. Thank you for the positive support! ❤️🙏🏼👍🏻
My rims are 100mm outer width with a 93mm inner width at the rim’s hooks where the bead seats. The Speedsters ETRTO rating is 90-559, which means the tire’s width at the bead is 90mm, and the overall width of the tire at its widest point is 559mm. If you’re assuming your rim size is the size listed on the sidewall of your tire, I’d use caution assuming that’s your actual rim size. I’d recommend you try to confirm with the manufacturer if possible the inner and outer rim widths in millimeters just to be sure. With that said, 3.5 inches equates to 88.9mm, so if that’s the actual inner width of your rim the Vee Speedsters would fit with no problem. I hope this helps. All the best! 👍🏼
Hi Darren. On the mid-drive motors, the chain ring is independent of the cranks. This means when you use the throttle, the motor activates the drivetrain without spinning the crank arms. When you pedal, you don’t actually activate the drivetrain like a non-electric bike. The motor senses the torque and cadence from the rider pushing on the cranks, and then the motor activates the drivetrain. This is what makes mid-drive bikes so much faster than hub-drives. I hope this helps.
How do you remove the rear wheel? I released the lever and turned it until it’s loose and wiggling about and then tried pulling the axel through but it won’t budge?
Make sure you've completely unthreaded the axle before pulling. Then, as you pull slightly rotate the axle back and forth and it should start pulling through. Don't worry about pulling too hard. If it still seems like it's not coming out, try jiggling your wheel a little bit as you're pulling. The frame has slots where the hub fits in, so the wheel won't just fall out. But there may be a little pressure on the axle caused by the weight of the wheel.
I found out there is a notch and you have to insert it into there and the keep turning. You have to unscrew the whole axle which seems a bit of a pain. It’s replacing the wheel which is the hard part. Damn derailleur gets in the way and hands covered in oil.
