Echo SPOILER Review & BREAKDOWN - New Powers, New Costume, Ending Explained, Post Credit Scene

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Echo Spoiler Review today! Beyond The Trailer's reaction & review! Ending explained! Comics Easter Eggs! Marvel MCU 2024! Daredevil, Kingpin!
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Echo Review with SPOILERS today! Beyond The Trailer host Grace Randolph's reaction & review of Echo in 2024 from Marvel aka MCU on Disney Plus! Ending explained! Easter Eggs! Post Credit Scenes! Echo New Powers! Echo New Costume! Daredevil fight scene! Enjoy this SPOILER breakdown of Echo in 2024 now that you've seen each full episode! And be sure to make Beyond The Trailer your first stop for movie and entertainment news here on RU-vid today!
CHAPTER TIMES
Intro - 00:00
Comics v MCU - 00:18
Connectivity - 2:48
New Costume - 4:54
Show Divided - 6:33
Daredevil Kingpin - 6:56
Echo Choice - 12:26
Final Non Fight - 13:16
End Credit Scene - 14:25
Daredevil - 15:26
Redefining Echo - 16:45
New Powers - 18:18
Action Scenes - 23:43
Episodes Overall - 26:02
Marvel Spotlight - 26:50
Echo Future - 27:41
Conclusion - 28:54
Interact with host & creator Grace Randolph!
Twitter: bit.ly/GraceOnTwitter
#Echo #Marvel #MCU

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@dafttool 6 месяцев назад

The little girl Maya was well cast. She really looked like the adult Maya.

@dellytancyl524 6 месяцев назад

I believe the young Maya is Alaqua's cousin in real life - so there is family resemble

@aco420 6 месяцев назад

They're actually related (second cousins).

@SuperUSAgent 6 месяцев назад

twas her "real life" cousin

@Eprosis 6 месяцев назад

My gut feeling is that the creative team isn't being held to the necessary standards of quality. Not just in this show, but more broadly in the MCU. Creatives are making choices that clearly don't work, but where's the push back?

@kbg12ila 6 месяцев назад

Exactly! It really feels like there no quality control in the MCU anymore.

@griffgames9538 6 месяцев назад

You need people like Benson & Moorhead who inherently understand good writing and storytelling, and know how to extract great performances and present it with style.

@sarcasmxkate 6 месяцев назад

I actually feel the opposite. It feels more like Marvel not trusting the creative teams they hire and then too much interference hinders the final product. They're doing a Rise of Skywalker and overcorrecting everything when they should be more trusting and collaborative rather than random hires and then too much restriction.

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

"Clearly don't work" to you?? To the puritanical Christians needing the Bible followed without any updates even from Choctaw people themselves lmfao

@Chibbery05 6 месяцев назад

@sarcasmxkate to be fair they have been doing things like that since phase one, it's just Endgame was such an accomplishment that people expect everything they make from now on to be on that level, the MCU has always been a roller coaster ride of quality and creativity it's just more noticeable now because instead of having about 20 projects in 10 years, they pushed out about 20 projects in a little more than 2 years

@terrymcginnis01 6 месяцев назад

Well said Grace. These properties need people who like and value the comics. Not like that guy who didn't even read Secret Invasion.

@marwynthemasterful6369 6 месяцев назад

Strange 2 guy didn’t watch Wanda. If they can’t be bothered to, why should I?

@TheJackedOLantern 6 месяцев назад

I remember one of the people in Marvel Studios tasked in getting the writers and directors, etc, stated that they specifically will not choose and hire any Marvel and comicbook fans. Which is such a weird way of thinking to say the least.

@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom 6 месяцев назад

JJ Abrams is a Star Wars fanboy. Tony Gilroy didn't care much for it.

@rode8927 6 месяцев назад

@@marwynthemasterful6369 He didn't watch the show because they were filming it as he was writing Doctor Strange 2. Lizzy said herself that right after Wandavision, she had to start filming Doctor Strange 2, which meant the script was already written before the show even went in post.

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

@@marwynthemasterful6369the ending of WandaVision directly leads into the next scene where Wanda appears. She locks Agatha back in a hex and reads the Darkhold despite her warnings lmfao

@damonx6109 6 месяцев назад

I don't think Echo knew the interpreter was murdered... It happened off screen and we could only hear it. Since she's deaf, she wouldn't have known.

@simpleplanfan011 6 месяцев назад

She definitely didn’t know. It happened around the corner and I assume the laid down the tarp after they sat down at the table, so she didn’t see that either.

@ConverseSC 6 месяцев назад

Guys, the entire scene was about Kingpin showing her what is necessary in his business. He killed her there partly for Echo’s benefit, otherwise she could’ve just done it another time.

@bradyonetta 6 месяцев назад

i liked the show overall, but the final "fight" was so awkward, and her new powers are pretty boring imo

@budgiecat9039 6 месяцев назад

It's like some weird mesh of Penance Stare and Cloak's ability

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

Her comic version is much more bland to me, mimicry isn't cool if you can't do anything supernatural (unless you can)

@SuperBubbles24 6 месяцев назад

The Macgyver skills came from her grandfather who was shown to be really skilled at tinkering

@TheGrayAlien 6 месяцев назад

Those are inherited? As far as I could tell every power/skill she gained from the past "echoes" were from FEMALES.

@tenerife_sea 6 месяцев назад

no only the women had the powers of generational Echo, no men from her ancestry ever had the echo

@SuperBubbles24 6 месяцев назад

@@tenerife_sea yeah it’s not a power, it’s just a skill she picked up from her grandfather…nothing mystical just learning.

@buciallstar 6 месяцев назад

I mean you could explain it like that, but she saw him last 20 years ago when she was like 8. And it wasn't established that she tinkered on the side as a hobby.

@DoctorSeitan 6 месяцев назад

Why do they need Iron Man AND War Machine?? Why do they need Steve AND Bucky?? Why do they need Doctor Strange AND Wong?? Why do they need Spider-Man AND Miles AND Gwen AND etc..?? Why do they need Ant-Man AND The Wasp?? Why do they ALL need a villain that mirrors their powers exactly?? Oh no we can't have two Indigenous superheroes at the same time that slightly resemble each other in a minor way. "Why can't Kohhori just be her ancestor??" They're from two totally different tribes. Did you really just see two Indigenous women and think they are the same? How many hero's origins are just "my parents/uncle died and now I'm a hero?" Why is multiple things being similar suddenly an issue?

@kumceis 6 месяцев назад

YES!!!!! !!!! !!! !! !

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

🥂💐

@JamesJiansen 6 месяцев назад

I felt a lot things didn't work like the ancestors and Echo's overall arc. What worked were the John Wick style action scenes, Kingpin, and the beautiful quiet, almost slice of life atmosphere of a small rural town.

@marvelprince 6 месяцев назад

It really could’ve been special if they just respected the character they were working on instead of trying to change her

@je2409 6 месяцев назад

I couldn’t agree more

@cain1314 6 месяцев назад

You sure you weren't watching John Wick? I didn't get that from the action scenes.

@JamesJiansen 6 месяцев назад

@@cain1314 You sure you watched the show? The Daredevil and skate rink fights were obviously John Wick inspired.

@themarvelstark 6 месяцев назад

The final episode fight was really short af, it needed more action.

@lizOnar 6 месяцев назад

4:54 Echos costume in the comics is both modern and a touch of her native American roots. The problem with the mcu suit is that they changed echos native American tribe in favor of other. Removing the iconic feather look which belonged to another tribe.

@5pid3rman80 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, I saw the suit and was like, "Yeesh, hard pass! Keep the motorcycle jacket!"

@Cuzane 6 месяцев назад

Yeah the suit was a downgrade.. the leg was cool..

@lizOnar 6 месяцев назад

@@Cuzane True and the powers does not align with who echo is and I'm curious on how adding the supernatural powers will help echo as a street level hero with no supernatural enemies.

@Cuzane 6 месяцев назад

@@lizOnar I think you and grace are right. She might just get shelved because it doesn't match.. maybe they bring Taskmaster?

@Beardodoomus 6 месяцев назад

I think it's sad that Marvel and the MCU has got into such a state that I'd rather spend time watching the entire spoiler review than engaging with the series itself. You've saved me a few hours time investment into Echo. Thanks Grace.

@elmegav0782 6 месяцев назад

Same here

@matthewlafleur3791 6 месяцев назад

Same

@user-ib2xl1gy4e 6 месяцев назад

Same

@everburn 6 месяцев назад

Same

@neonmongoose1036 6 месяцев назад

Same

@jasonbertoia 6 месяцев назад

I think the "MacGuyvery" comes from her Grandfather who fixed and rebuilt her leg using scraps around his shop.

@gqd1975 6 месяцев назад

MCU continues to hire people that do not love or know the characters and ignore the source material. 😢

@JD-vh1qd 6 месяцев назад

Secret invasion was absolutely horrible! You really could not make that show any worse if you tried. I really want to know how Secret Invasion was such a huge fail. Who’s fault was it?

@kmphemp 6 месяцев назад

*whose

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

They didn't have a showrunner for a long time and then just plopped it on whoever was willing (they never read the original run) so it was a perfect storm. They made the show off of producer's notes like "start the skrull war, set up Dorrek 8" but that's it. Didn't ever see the iconic imagery like Elektra Skrull laying on a table

@mk6rfc1 6 месяцев назад

Feige’s

@FeralAscendant 6 месяцев назад

A strong supporting character is much better than a poor leading character.

@kellytibbs3815 6 месяцев назад

Well said !

@Ivanlois383 6 месяцев назад

Lord that finale was weak as hell, it really peaked at episode 3

@spinningbackkick6021 6 месяцев назад

Bull crap. That ending was deeper than you think. You people just want punchy punchy. That ending was amazing.

@Ivanlois383 6 месяцев назад

@@spinningbackkick6021and who exactly is “you people” sir? Please elaborate

@twincast2005 6 месяцев назад

@@spinningbackkick6021Two women with no combat training, one of them geriatric, suddenly beating up professional hired killers with badass moves because magical native powers, plus Maya suddenly going "let me heal your childhood trauma and let you go" on the man who had her father killed, had groomed her to become a murderer, and almost killed the rest of her family out of wounded pride because she still/again loved her abuser like an uncle... Yes, totally deep.

@spinningbackkick6021 6 месяцев назад

@@Ivanlois383 Complainers.. At least you actually watched it to form your opinion..

@spinningbackkick6021 6 месяцев назад

@@twincast2005 Yes. It was good.. Just because you didn't like it doesn't make it meaningless..

@bobmathis-friedman6742 6 месяцев назад

To answer your question regarding connecting the two characters: Maya is Choctaw, while the other is Mohawk; would you do this with, say, an Italian and Irish character?

@buciallstar 6 месяцев назад

I don't see this as an issue in pre production. Of course now it's too late as they are different tribes, but Kahhori is a fully original character that didn't exist before the what if episodes. If the respective show runners would have compared notes at the production phase, they would have seen, that they work in similar projects and could have connected them. I mean the actress who plays Bonnie is the voice actress of Kahhori, so it's even more baffling they didn't think of combining the bloodlines

@SCTVTulsa 6 месяцев назад

I really appreciate the MCU making a statement about how Native Americans have many different tribes. They don't all need to be lumped up as a single identity for the sake of the audiences ignorance. They are many peoples and have many different stories. I love Grace but she does argue for ethnic backgrounds to be recognized in other circumstances. This is no different than that. Just because they're both Native Superheroes does NOT mean they need to be the same.

@safirestudio 6 месяцев назад

@SCTVTulsa I love showing different tribes. Story wise, I feel it would have made sense to connect them because their power looks so similar. It would've been a great Easter egg for those who watched both shows. And maybe even entice some people to go back and watch the show if they missed it.

@ioefhsof25913 6 месяцев назад

yes, and it's actually done all the time, religion practices in particular are always all over the place, and usually very much chosen ad hoc to fit the narative, the same thing with a lot of other customs, the witcher completly ignored it's polish roots for example. Amazon primes rings of power completely ignored the fact the creator gave specific etchnicities to different groups. Disney is constantly ignoring it's own storylines, Snow White being the current example where the original story was made by white europeans with very specific skin complexion and Disney just changed it to whatever it wanted.

@jeremybarnes3698 6 месяцев назад

I agree: “Kahhori is a lead. Echo is a supporting character.” I like Kahhori more, but I do really like Maya as well. They just need to give her more to do. And Episode 4 was my favorite of this series. Chula, Maya’s grandmother, was my favorite character.

@ajaniharris 6 месяцев назад

I got to see the first two episodes last night at a screener followed by a Q&A with Alaqua Cox and Chaske Spencer!

@ytsm 6 месяцев назад

Sorry to hear that. Thoughts and prayers!

@Canuck1000 6 месяцев назад

Don't forget that the actress who played her cousin is the same actress who voiced Kahhori. She is a native Canadian (Mohawk) born south of Montreal.

@buciallstar 6 месяцев назад

Even stranger that they didn't find a way to connect the stories.

@TheSickdeathfiend 6 месяцев назад

More vandalism by hacktivists. Such a shame

@squarebiz90 6 месяцев назад

Charlie cox was in here for like 30 seconds. What a tease.

@unitruth 6 месяцев назад

The first X-Men movie didn't go by the comic book either and I was irritated. I became friends with it finally. But you're right the mcu was so popular in part by its connectivity so some of the creatives leaving that connectivity and source material behind is bizarre.

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

But not every character interacted with incursions in the comics before one happened either like ... Squirrel Girl was just eating nuts ..

@LooksByNaheemah 6 месяцев назад

There are major flaws in your argument about why did they introduce Echo and Kahori around similar times? First you’re coming from the perspective of there’s only one Native American culture which there is not. Also, the vast majority people aren’t watching. What if let’s be honest, more people watch Echo.

@AlexDalger 6 месяцев назад

REMEBER when grace said this was a back door daredevil show😭😭🧢

@robsgamingchannel2077 6 месяцев назад

Kahhori is Mohawk and Echo is Choctaw, so no they should not be related, by that logic let's make sure every white character in the MCU is related, even though they come from different regions and cultures, and lets make every latino character Mexican because god forbid the minorities have different backgrounds

@simpleplanfan011 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for saying this. People are being very ignorant with this take just because they’re both Native American. It shows me that they’re watching these shows but are not actually paying attention.

@kingchaos6050 6 месяцев назад

No matter how you interpret it, this show sucked! They should’ve just stuck to the books!

@fahimalfaisal7781 6 месяцев назад

@@kingchaos6050nice try

@buciallstar 6 месяцев назад

I would have connected them in pre production already and make them both originally from the same tribe for the synergy. But now it's too late because the district tribes are established. And that's what what Grace meant as well, when she said to have them from the same tribe. But I'm also fine with presenting different tribes.

@christianvandom 6 месяцев назад

You are right, it maybe would've helped if Marvel had the foresight to develope Kahhori as a Choctaw instead of Mohawk to conncet her with Echo. But in the end it's a nice thing that Marvel gives representation to different native american communities. X-Men comics so far have offered the best native american representation with the Proudstars as members of the Apache tribe and Danielle Moonstar and Forge as Cheyennes.

@omarscarborough4274 6 месяцев назад

Wyatt Wingfoot.

@That_OtherGuy95 6 месяцев назад

Kevin needs to find his back born and start saying no to the people he hires and hire better people whilst he's at it

@somniatate 6 месяцев назад

If I was someone who read the comics version of Echo, maybe I would feel different. I can even understand how those fans might feel about the changes. But since I'm not, I came to the character open minded and the show worked for me. Loved the fights, and the family connection, really looking forward to seeing Echo in the MCU and her dynamic with Daredevil. Also didn't watch What if, so it was a fun experience for me that didn't come with the constant comparing of the two characters.

@MrNathansdad 6 месяцев назад

@@verazollinger6862yeah, we're gonna disagree, I think this is a very solid, well done show. Are the fights as good as some in the Netflix show? No. Do the ten seconds of bad fighting ruin the show for me? Absolutely not. I can see where the show was changed from something campy to something darker.

@brendanalexcurran3429 6 месяцев назад

I liked the show as well i didn’t read comics and loved their take on it

@ConnorStompanato 6 месяцев назад

i really enjoyed it too as someone who hasnt read the comics and skipped whats if season two. maybe that is the magic formula lol.

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

Nah some people are just really narrow minded and expect a very specific, generic adaptation without a single change. I've been a comic fan for decades now but am way more open to multiple instances of a character existing.

@LooksByNaheemah 6 месяцев назад

Literally same. I feel like the people who read the comments and just need to get over the fact that Marvel has been making changes from the comics to the MCU. This is a known fact at this point just roll with it.

@jacobfleming3926 6 месяцев назад

I find it interesting how people were surprised that it wasn’t going to be set in New York. I swear there was some articles coming out like a year ago that were talking about the plot of the show. Or at least I saw it. I saw how it was saying that it’s about her going back to her hometown.

@buciallstar 6 месяцев назад

You can't expect the average person to read all articles about projects. I personally stopped doing that altogether because I realized I get too obsessed about all information and then end up knowing everything before I even see the finished project.

@MrCorey213 6 месяцев назад

Making Kahhori related to Echo makes no sense when they’re not even from the same universe nor the same tribe. Two Indigenous characters don’t need to be related to each other.

@arunjoshi1728 6 месяцев назад

Most D+ shows end with a wardrobe change 😂. This is getting ridiculous

@ventanaestudiocreativo4694 6 месяцев назад

I completely agree with you Grace in this review. Echo was a very cool and stablish character in the comics, a badass, this seems like two different stories mesh together, and I don't see the need to change her this drastically, not all the characters in the MCU need mystic or glowing powers, Daredevil is an amazing example where subtlety with the extra abilities make a very human an compelling character.

@dmp1571 6 месяцев назад

I feel like people have rose-colored glasses when it comes to Daredevil. Daredevil had the same amount of mysticism as Echo did, and expanding further to that corner of Netflix MCU, Luke having impenetrable skin, Jessica's portayal of super-strength, and Iron-Fists glowing powers, it's all the same as Echo. Echo was great, just like Daredevil was.

@PaballoKobe-xh9ve 6 месяцев назад

Echo is a side character she never caught on. Its so weird people are pretending like she was this widely amazing character when in 2010 post bendis daredevil and new avengets no one knew she existed

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

Of course it seems like two stories meshed together, the whole theme of her story is two stories creating disharmony in her own life! Like, wow, I can't believe good writing is wasted on y'all

@ventanaestudiocreativo4694 6 месяцев назад

@@nailinthefashion I understand the premise, but I really don't consider that was good writing, but this is subjective, if you like it that's ok, the thing is I like a lot the Character of Echo in the comics, and changing it so drastically is what bothered me, and Grace touched exactly the points of why, so I happened to agree with her on this one.

@ventanaestudiocreativo4694 6 месяцев назад

@@dmp1571 yeah but those characters had those backstories already in the comics, at least the mystic ones, that was the context of them with Echo her context was different from this, at least with what the showrunners added because they thought her powers were lame, and for me the character was great already, and most of the critics are agreeing with it. But if you like the show, that's ok with me, all of this is subjective, Daredevil happens to be my favorite Marvel character that's why I like the second characters as well like the comics version of Echo.

@kaci111128 6 месяцев назад

Hi Grace! I thought maybe I could just sneak listen to you review the 1st two episodes, but I paused this 12 seconds in, after your clear spoiler warning 😅❤

@peterthompson760 6 месяцев назад

Echo is Choctaw who were forcefully resettled to Oklahoma and Kahhori is Mohawk from New York/Canada. They are two different tribes and I appreciate Marvel highlighting both cultures.

@buciallstar 6 месяцев назад

Now of course they are different tribes, but in pre-production they could have changed the origins to make them be the same. Especially since Kahhori is a completely original character. That saying it's also fine to represent the different tribes, but me personally I would have preferred the connected universe.

@kevinhuerta-ponce138 6 месяцев назад

Watching this made me realize I was too harsh on iron fist.

@5pid3rman80 6 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@alexnclips6790 6 месяцев назад

😅

@kpsk8031 6 месяцев назад

The "misleading" Daredevil marketing and the tacked on MA rating will backfire. People don't like being bluffed (repeatedly). Future marketing efforts will lose a lot of impact.

@Jeremy-xs4gt 6 месяцев назад

Honestly, to me this was the best show after Wandavision. I was afraid this would be exactly what you described you wanted cuz to me that is boring, so i was not excited at all until the last trailers. I personally like the power change, but i can understand the difference is a lot. I personally like when the shows focus on the characters like this and Moon Knight, instead of just setting up something, idk but i am afraid they wont use her anymore.

@Jeremy-xs4gt 6 месяцев назад

Worth noting i am not a daredevil fan (i plan on watching the show) and the crime/street focused shows arent really my thing, sooo that explains it.

@LooksByNaheemah 6 месяцев назад

I didn’t think I had to say this, but I feel like someone needs to let Grace know that not all Native Americans are from the same tribe, or the same at all

@hyewonderfull 6 месяцев назад

I just finished watching and I loveeeed it so much. I literally cried omg

@daltonswink3256 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know how the indigenous elements to the story DON’T tie directly into crime arc posed. I agree that maybe they could have been a little more comic accurate, but I overall really enjoyed the Choctaw perspective. It also felt very different to me than Kahhori

@Pogslammer314 6 месяцев назад

Excellent synapse of this show. I was really hoping for the mood and street level brawling Daredevil offered. The cosmic power thing felt like a distraction. The native lore could have been better utilized as inspiration rather than a magic “get out of trouble” card. The last episode was a cheap out. They needed a big fight with King Pin. I felt cheated.

@emileejackson7623 6 месяцев назад

I know that Maya is upset that some of her family didn’t reach out to her. But her cousin Bonnie reached out to her and she never responded.

@AshamtlyLopez 6 месяцев назад

It's funny Grace has a problem with them changing Echo's powers (and origin partially), but was perfectly fine and happy when they did the same to Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan). Guess now she can see how we fans felt.

@whomilloo 6 месяцев назад

ayo who hasn’t had the Phoenix Force at this point 😭

@justinprovideo333 6 месяцев назад

Why does the MCU drastically change the female characters' origins more than the male? It's very distracting from a comic book fan perspective. I get Scarlet Witch needing to be changed b/c Marvel didn't have the rights to the mutants at the time the character was brought into the MCU, but the others are rarely true to the source material. I personally think Daredevil has the dumbest origin story; however, his is faithfully adapted; however, She-Hulk, Echo, Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, and Elektra gets a full overhaul.

@TheDevos1 6 месяцев назад

I personally liked the power change, we don’t need two task masters, but I wish the power was more or less her borrowing skills (like the sharp shooting and agility and brain power) and not HEALING or actual super powers. That way it’s kind of the same but a great difference.

@cosmicdropout8187 6 месяцев назад

16:17 yeah, DD was going easy on her. Every time he landed a serious punch or kick, Maya was send fly away almost down from the count 😅 was a solid scene

@Chibbery05 6 месяцев назад

I disagree with having Maya and Kahori being a part of the same bloodline, it gives off the "all black people know each other" vibes, Kahori's story was based in the fountain of youth timeline which is nowhere near Oklahoma, plus the fact that it was two different tribes...its like saying Sam Wilson and Nick Fury should be a part of the same bloodline or saying Steve Rodgers and Peter Parker should be a part of the same bloodline

@michaeldeal3786 6 месяцев назад

I enjoyed Kingpin and the skate ring part where she fought every one, but that was it

@TheSpeci3 6 месяцев назад

I watched the show without spoilers, without people telling me was good or bad, and in my opinion it was a good show compared to she hulk and secret invasion.

@blackkitty420 6 месяцев назад

Lol what about comparing it to past MCU greats? She hulk and secret invasion can make even a high school level fan made project seem Oscar worthy in comparison.

@emgonzale 6 месяцев назад

I think there’s room for two Native American characters whose culture is a large part of their identities in the MCU.

@eliselianaboyd2547 6 месяцев назад

Echo is far from a hero in the comics ,and on this show she dosen't work with Kingpin any longer. The police 🚔 are still looking for her, with better show runner they could make her more like the punisher,possibly have the two of them work together. The show is ok. They did the best they could with what they had. I sure it could have been worse. Which is why they're redoing daredevil right now. Hopefully marvel learned something from both Echo and the daredevil show we won't be seeing. They did the best they could with Echo, hopefully they can fix daredevil and later do a rework on Echo. It wasn't great but it's wasn't bad either. Looking forward to seeing how daredevil goes.

@lacolem1 6 месяцев назад

We’re never getting a proper Taskmaster-ish power set in the MCU

@js7733 6 месяцев назад

Maybe the daredevil vs echo fight was a rehearsal since not a single punch or kick landed. When you showed the 3 shots of daredevil flipping over the fence I wish you did 2-3 frames later to see how he misses kicking the shotgun by 5 feet but she dropped it anyways lol

@verazollinger6862 6 месяцев назад

Hawkeye never mentions anything about the sun

@jeremyfee 6 месяцев назад

Grace, great discussion, as always. I agree with what you said here. I was delighted at the actor from the Maverick film playing the Native American con man again, though I was confused as to whether he was or wasn't Echo's biological grandfather and I don't know why they muddied that for the audience. Kingpin was my favorite part of the show. He should have his own show. Maybe they will bring back Echo similarly to how Nick Fury was just different from Secret Invasion to The Marvels. Who knows?

@ryanwalle 6 месяцев назад

Grace, you are always very thoughtful in your reviews. It's refreshing!

@Rockstar-bq5fm 6 месяцев назад

Why are representation hires always women?? Why can’t they bring someone like Red Wolf to screen. Does anyone not see this?

@jewelrodriguez8747 6 месяцев назад

I never read her comic and so I appreciated her character in the show. She had heart and was relatable. I was very impressed with her acting. I didnt realize Hawkeye was her first ever role and that she is really a deaf amputee!! Loved the culture of her people

@jimmypaterson478 6 месяцев назад

That was a good show, but the last two episodes were just too compacted and too fast. If it was 10 episodes long, it would have been better. The fight scenes were legit af..

@Jacksabbath44 6 месяцев назад

the problem with Echo's facepaint is that the design is way too close to the Flagsmashers Mask

@sjoo8 5 месяцев назад

I just watched the show over the last 2 days and I agree… she’s best with Daredevil and Kingpin. I like the Native American elements too, I just wish they had done it a little differently? Thankfully I watched it BEFORE starting What If season 2 (last night) so I hadn’t seen the Kahhori episode yet.

@jayden.188 6 месяцев назад

I feel like Marvel shouldn't have let go of their 'Special Presentations' and all their upcoming 'Marvel Spotlight' shows should just be special presentations. This 5 episode show could have been condensed into an hour long special, focusing simply on the Kingpin / New York side of Echo's life, tying directly into the Daredevil show where she'd be a major side-character!!

@mylesmchattie3230 6 месяцев назад

Hey, I am thinking of watching Echo but does kingpin yell a lot I’m not a big fan of Vincents yell. is there a lot of yelling in general? thank you I would appreciate any feedback.

@LooksByNaheemah 6 месяцев назад

This was genuinely a solid show, better than half of the other MCU shows, including Moon Knight ✨

@teddertot256 6 месяцев назад

As primarily an overall MCU fan, I liked that Echo wasn’t made to be the same as Taskmaster. I like the kind of Avatar the Last Airbender idea that each descendant has more teachers, and therefore more powers to choose from. I just wanted to see her learn to master each power, and then figure out how to utilize them strategically in a fight. And I wasn’t sure what power Maya herself added to the mix, if that’s how it works.

@tokekage2150 6 месяцев назад

As another mcu fan I can assure you no one cares about either echo or taskmaster now

@cosmicdropout8187 6 месяцев назад

24:27 and the episode 3 action scene in the Skate place, was really great

@codyprice2616 6 месяцев назад

She would fight, maybe not Kingpin but anyone else.. The only reason she did not fight Kingpin is that she was trying to save the man that she saw as her uncle and adoptive family member for so long in her life.

@rode8927 6 месяцев назад

I really wished the show would have developed that storyline more. Focusing on her and the Kingpin, the way she viewed him as a mentor/father figure and who later betrayed her by killing her father. I think that would have made it more compelling and emotionally investing.

@nailinthefashion 6 месяцев назад

@@rode8927she literally thinks of him as more of an uncle and that was like really apparent to me thst she actually wasn't that close or trusting of him, but was still grateful for what he provided, thus showed mercy in the end

@x1928 6 месяцев назад

Anyone else thought the intro credits were just a 007 imitation?

@lars7282 6 месяцев назад

So, again Disneys Story Teams think that representation (on a fantasy-surface-level only, tbh) means a good show instead of coming up with stories, storytelling and then simply injecting characters that have a different background from what we have seen a million times. It’s getting absolutely boring tbh

@futuramayeah 6 месяцев назад

Grace, at 1917 of this video, i saw that and thought that was Kahori from the Whatif tv show, and they were showing us that she was Echo's ancestor

@fritzfromm5601 6 месяцев назад

Honestly, I think the show was overall watchable (except for an garbage final episode) with some interesting concepts and unique ideas and 1,5 good fight scenes and decent performances

@cilenesilveira5 6 месяцев назад

Thank you this review ❤

@thesalvadorian 6 месяцев назад

28:50 idk why, but I want that on a T-shirt haha

@rpm381 6 месяцев назад

Grace I think you’re spot on with this review, there’s a lot to like and some excellent moments but such a disappointing fumble at the end. Alaqua Cox did an excellent job, Echo and Kingpin and Daredevil were great, but some of the writing and creative choices at the end were bizarre.

@reey2778 6 месяцев назад

Echo was wonderful. A great first attempt at the spotlight brand, might not have struck the landing but it’s a great concept and the first episode HOOKED me

@budgiecat9039 6 месяцев назад

Zzzzz

@SinSationNation 6 месяцев назад

“Make America Skate Again” 😂

@laverdadescatolica5 6 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with that 😊

@CCARL11 6 месяцев назад

Brilliant analysis and review the show felt like 2 shows in the same season. One from the gritty Netflix Daredevil universe and the other from the Disney universe that has been ruining characters. Loved episode one but it constantly kept going down hill from there to the finale which was the worst thing a show can be and that's being corny. Hoping they fix Maya because after ep1 I loved Maya and was emotionally invested in her.

@Malletdude31 6 месяцев назад

It was a very CW Flash ending. You set up a big battle, instead she uses POWERZ and has a therapy session with the bad guy and it's over.

@deeonbrown 6 месяцев назад

😮 Kind of glad that Kahori and Echo aren't related, even w/ the similar power look. Too often poc characters are written to be blood related in the same universe or one character is given prominence and acts as representation for everyone that looks like them. Kudos for them not taking that path imo.

@greygorygaming 6 месяцев назад

Yeah but now you give all the minority characters the same powers like black people only getting movie roles about slavery and discrimination. You're missing variety.

@LooksByNaheemah 6 месяцев назад

I am very impressed with the Echo show. Visually it looks better and feels better than half of the other Marvel shows. There was so much depth here and I felt they seamlessly meshed the story together. It feels drawing at times because echo her character feels torn into directions literally like obviously that’s the story’s symbolism.

@cmleibenguth 6 месяцев назад

Alpha Flight has always had a Native American superhero Well before modern day And another one who is gay (and always has been, no retcon needed) But no, nothing before Sana Amanat's tenure exists Edit: Should have just done a Daredevil show with her having a major subplot over a few episodes, kept comics accurate Save the mystic stuff for other characters Maybe hint at Alpha Flight ( the original one )

@JS-uc3qf 6 месяцев назад

This show is another case of the MCU being more focused on representation and culture rather than the character, and it once again only hurts the content. Everything doesn't have to be a cultural history lesson. People are watching being they enjoy superheroes and want to see them ripped from the pages and placed on screen.

@darknexus6720 6 месяцев назад

Supposedly they cut about 3 episodes from the original plan of the the season and I think it shows in certain areas. The progression of certain plots feels very rushed and unsatisfying. The main ancestor who first drinks the water is an actress who does a lot stuff on TV and I think there was at least a bigger focus on that character originally. Also, the stuff that occurred with Fisk after he returns to meet Maya felt incomplete in certain areas. I think there was likely a chunk of material there where he goes back to NYC before confronting her at the end.

@nadadoyle8926 6 месяцев назад

Another issue is that they NEVER EXPLAIN HOW KINGPIN SURVIVED BEING SHOT IN THE FACE at point blank range.

@Ne0Nights 6 месяцев назад

What’s to explain? People in real life can survive bullets to the head

@bfgboy2 6 месяцев назад

@Ne0Nights uhm...i get that you really like this show, but you do know most people in REAL LIFE would still ask those same questions if they found a person who survived a gunshot to the face?! That's not something most normal people would the blase about!😂

@kmphemp 6 месяцев назад

@@Ne0Nightsare… are you serious? stop defending this mid show

@Ne0Nights 6 месяцев назад

@@kmphemp why are you so mad? Bc someone likes something you don’t? Sounds like insecurity

@kmphemp 6 месяцев назад

@@Ne0Nights no one’s mad here. it’s just weird how much bootlicking you do for Disney and MCU

@NLpop 6 месяцев назад

I guess it's about expectations. I enjoyed Echo, while I did not know her precise story in the comics before watching. I expected it to be worse. But this was a decent watch. It's currently 72% on RT, with 68% audience score. I would agree; Echo is a solid 7 for me. I think the 6.4 on IMDb is a bit too low. I also agree with Grace on the lack of connectivity to the MCU. Maybe I would have added more Daredevil and cameos, and keep Echo closer to the source material, to keep it connected to the wider MCU. Now it's more of a standalone miniseries. It's better than Secret Invasion in my opinion, that was problematic, and ridiculous at points. And a bigger case of: missed opportunities. But like G'iah (Emilia Clarke) from that show - and also the characters from The Eternals by the way - I do not have a very strong desire to see the characters from Echo again anytime soon in the MCU. It's probably better to keep this separate.

@YaraMay20 6 месяцев назад

This Echo show is basically a ‘Killing the Echo character show’ I can’t believe Marvel keeps making these mistakes over and over again.

@jbon9319 6 месяцев назад

As someone from Oklahoma, it makes me so happy seeing my home state represented in movies and tv so much lately. I just wish that the would focus on the urban areas too lol its not all rural like that.

@budgiecat9039 6 месяцев назад

I agree they keep hiring these writers and directors who arent comic book fans and have an ego and hubris to think they can reinvent the wheel and insert things that dont need to be inserted. Like Namor. He didn't need to be changed either

@davenoyes2934 6 месяцев назад

I thought it was a strong moment when Echo said to Kingpin You care about me so much?---"you never even bothered to learn to sign." Their scenes were the best part of the show. I did not care for all the changes to her character. I was really annoyed that her costume in the end was essentially Wanda's just with the symbols added. At least make it black, her signature color

@jacobbjake 6 месяцев назад

the end credit idk why but i was expecting them to say norman osborn

@handlebarsmustache 6 месяцев назад

I would think the reason why they aren't in the same bloodline, is that they arent even from the same people. Kahhoori is supposed to be Mohawk and from the new show Echo is obviously now Choctow. If anything Echo undercut itself as well as the idea of a Native American hero by making the most pandering MCU version(if you disagree look how they changed her costume). Kahhoori on the other hand, could've been in a movie imo. She's maybe a copy of Pocahontas to Grace, but she's just Captain Marvel with a story worth actually telling in my opinion.

@JCResDoc94 6 месяцев назад

that is a good assessment. they get excited about different things, that are not why the chr is already popular. _JC

@noahm8942 6 месяцев назад

I'm curious if Echo was targeted for a release in November, originally. Not releasing this series during Native American Heritage Month seems like a huge miss!

@PathOfRage 6 месяцев назад

I love that opening theme song. Secret Invasion was ear candy too, they're on a roll 🙂

@cosmicdropout8187 6 месяцев назад

0:35 just watched the 5 episodes and i did not understand that much out of Kingpin. For me, he was the best think of the show, everything else was mid to...

@HydroM 6 месяцев назад

I agree with a lot of what you said, the thing I think they didn't make Kahhori a part of her line, because it seems Maya can only link with her ancestors who have died and moved on. Making me think Kahhori is still alive so to speak, so she can't connect to her the same way and pull up those memories/powers. Thats my best guess, because I do agree, linking her and Kahhori would've been such a huge boon.

@alexandernicholl5772 6 месяцев назад

I actually loved how we went to small town American and got out of the city and i loved this show overall but i hope to god that that mini reboot in how they structure the shows will help Born Again but shows like Agatha and Iron Heart were made before the shakeup so thats a shame

@rafenix84 6 месяцев назад

Yes, when I saw the water I thought of Kohhorti, but instantly came to my mind that each of them are from different tribes.

@rafenix84 6 месяцев назад

Also. The 2030 agenda is weighing a lot in Disney these days, so representation and active feminism is a must ordered from the real owners of the company (ies).

@Tinkerbe11 6 месяцев назад

Why do Kahori and Echo be linked? Not every native American is linked to every other one. The black and Asian characters are not all linked either - and they should not be. And the team very much involved the Choctaw community in the screen writing and the shooting of the show.