Hi, I just got two Delta Pros, smart switch and 2000w Delta Pro solar panels. My take is to reduce the parasite 800 watt (according to my Sense monitor) energy draw. I’m a noob so wish me luck! 😊 So far so good, waiting on the solar panels 😮
Thank you for all the info. Your cart you built for them is nice but if I am seeing it correctly the top shelf is only held up by the screws. All the weight is being transferred to that point and not into the upright piece that hold it. Something to look into. Thank you again
Great video and very detailed! Do temperatures in your garage exceed 80 degrees during the summer? I ask because I'm curious to know how to the Delta Pros perform in high temperatures?
With split phase, I'll just use 1 in 2 and leave the rest of them empty. I don't care about 3 and 4 or anything else. I just use 1 and 2, and if that works. Then it doesn't matter to me cause I won't use anything else on it. Cause I'll get it perfectly just for what I wanna use it for and nothing else may not be separated in my home.
Thanks for this video. Very helpful in understanding more about the panel. Similar to you, I am going to use the panel only for 120V circuits. Have you any experience with a home back up generator operating with this panel?
Nice video, very informative. If you use only the Delta Pro , can you prioritize it use battery power until you reach a specific low battery setting so grid power kicks in similar to the Home panel does!
Yes, you can. You can specify on the Delta Pro charge and discharge limits. So if you set it to 10%, it will stop using the battery and should utilize grid power as pass through.
Great video Daniel, thanks for the work. I just got my SHP set up and everything was going well until the SHP fan started up. That thing is LOUD. Was wondering if the fans on your SHP's are loud as well? The DeltaPro fans are bearable but the fan on my SHP is a problem and it runs a lot. Right now the panel is only pushing 300 watts and the fan has been going for the last hour.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with HSP. It is very cool! I have a question ) Do You can use the Delta backup power (batteries) or solar power when your grid is "on"? I interesting, because SHP use the same neutral cable
If I'm understanding your question, you're asking if you can use the battery power of the Delta Pro when grid power is available? Yes, you can set a routine to ensure that it uses the power from the Delta Pros first and then only switch back to grid power if the battery power is depleted. That's my primary use case and how you can lower your energy costs primarily. Other people prefer to keep their delta pros charged and ready to go in the case of an emergency. You can customize the discharge level of the Delta Pros so that it doesn't discharge below a certain percentage and that will ensure in the case of an unexpected outage you still have some power left in the Delta Pros. Sorry, that was a lot but hopefully that helps.
How efficient is charging and discharging? Would it make economical sense to charge the battery at $0.25 and avoid using power at $0.50 by using the battery? If round trip efficient is close to 50% and you are w trying to cool your house while these ecoflows great it up, you may end up not saving any money. i saw posts the ecoflow round trip efficiency is 58%...
What you are suggesting is absolutely a legitimate use case for energy arbitrage IF your energy provider allows or charges time-of-day metering. If you can charge your batteries when demand is low (i.e. usually at night), and run them during the afternoon when demand is high, you could save money on your power bill without even using solar panels. Combine the two together and it can be a very potent combination. My energy provider does not by default offer time-of-day metering unless it is requested. That's on my "to do" list in the future.
Very informative, the Automation rules are exactly what I wanted to know about this system! Thank you! What happens if you've scheduled the Smart Panel with an Automation rule to run using Delta Pro batteries (no grid) but it depletes the DP batteries before the Automation rule is scheduled to go back to grid power? Can you setup an Automation failover rule so that when the DP battery level is at say 5% to switch the Smart Panel to grid power, regardless of the schedule?
If the battery depletes, it will automatically switch back to grid always. Yes, you can also specify a discharge level of say 5 or 10% and when it hits that threshold it will switch over to grid regardless of your time specification.
Can any electrician connect smart panel or is there anything specific about it. How many hours would they charge on average to install one single phase panel
Probably any good electrician could figure it out. The electrician that installed mine was the very first time he'd ever done anything like that and he figured it out. There was some initial setup things in the app that I had to figure out myself but the wiring and such he was able to do all on his own. He had mine installed in about 4-5 hours. Your mileage may vary. Ecoflow does have a list of electricians in the US that have done installations before so they might be able to recommend someone to you depending on your area.
@@DanielGoodwin-jq1oc thSHanks for this info. one dealer wants you get a certified electrician who pased a 10 question test by ecoflow before they ship the panels. Other dealers just say to use a profesional electrician.
Hi Daniel. I had a professional, experienced electrician attempt to install my smart panel. Passed wiring test. Getting relay errors on 3 circuits. Tried swapping relays, no improvement. Support sent more relays to swap, no improvements. I don’t feel support really understands the problem, just sending parts to try. Electrician has checked each connection and says power is not getting to the relays. Any suggestions? How can I get you more info if you can help?
Hi, I'll be the first to admit I'm no expert, just an average joe. However, what error is it giving on these relays? Are you using them for just single phase? When you look at the log does it give any additional details?
Amazing video....I have a question, My furnace in my regular home electrical panel is on a 240v - 20amp double breaker. When assigning relays in the Smart Home Panel, do i hook up that circuit to two 20amp relay modules in the Smart Home Panel and will i be able to connect my furnace, or does it have to be 30 amp in order for me to use the 240v?
Yes, you can hook it up to two 20amp relay modules in the SHP and run your furnace. I'd recommend not using Relays 1-4 since those can be up to 30 amps and the others cannot. I'd reserve those in case you truly do need a 30 amp relay for something else. If I remember right, I'm running my 240v cooktop on two 20amp relays, it should be very similar.
@@DanielGoodwin-jq1oc but you need two delta pros and two infinity cables ? am I right? By the way did you did the install yourself or hired someone and how much did it cost?
@@allen35315 thinking of doing it myself and then have a certified electrican look it over. On a manual transfer it doesn't require a certified electrician which is basically similar in instalation.
@@henrylee8092 I actually went ahead and did it myself. Did a ton of research and got some tips from knowledgeable electrical people. Did it in steps. Did all the work before necessary to connect to the panel - then took another few hours on another day for the final install. I Just shut off all the electricity - attached a lamp to the battery for lighting; been working fine for the past few months. The real pain; keeping the wire identifiers numbers attached while pulling them through the conduit.
Updating the firmware is scary every time. I been updating both my Delta Pro's firmware fine until one time it bricked. Went through the support process and determine that there was something defective and had to sent it back in. It happened during firmware update. I'm scared to do any firmware update if the warranty period is over.
I understand what you're saying. I've had some unnerving experiences as well with firmware updates. Nothing as extreme as that. I always take a deep breath before updating though. This needs to improve. I will say the firmware updates have gotten better (i.e. smoother) over the past 6 months.
It's more. Exactly how much depends on where you buy. By far the best deal is on refurbished models from Ecoflow from eBay (I have links above). That will save you a lot of money versus buying brand new. But 4 Delta Pros and 4 extra batteries plus 2 smart home panels is a lot no matter how you slice it.
When using split phase, you mentioned you can only use 5 circuits. I want to connect my electric dryer which uses a 30 amp breaker and the whole house is on 20 amp breaker on the smart panel. I assume my dryer would need split phase. On the smart panel, would I used the 2- 30amp relays for 1 and 2 and 3-10 would be using the 20 amp relays making 9 circuits on the smart panel?
Thank you for helping understand this setup. Since you are using solar panels to charge your delta pros, did you add a 30 amps circuit breaker on your main panel for each delta pro for fast charging?
Yes, both have 30 amp circuit breakers from the main panel. That said, I really don't recharge from AC unless absolutely necessary. I mostly use the solar power to recharge. If I have extended periods with low solar input then I will tap the grid to charge.
No, in order to do that you need a net meter agreement with your power company and there are additional permits/requirements. The SHP doesn't provide power back to the grid which means in most locations you can install without excessive permitting etc. YMMV.
Savings. Payback. 20kw worth of ecoflow ain't cheap. Couple with the transfer boxes and wiring and you talkin' big $$. Average homeowner stays put 8 years in their home then move. You would have to stay put a lot longer is my guess.
You're not wrong, my friend. However, the nice thing about the Ecoflow setup is if you do decide to move, its not hard to take it all with you. Might need an electrician for the smart home panels but the Delta Pros and Extra batteries can be moved in an instant.
Thanks Daniel! My situation is I have 2 Delta Pros and need to supply 110v and 220v circuits from my main load center/breaker box. I also have 2 brand new SHP's but with only 2 Delta Pros, I can't see any way to connect both SHP's at the same time with what I have. I didn't notice you had one of your SHP's connected to a separate Delta Pro set until I had already bought my 2 SHP's. Now it seems I can't use more than 1 SHP without getting at least 1 more Delta Pro, which would only support 110v circuits anyway. Is that right? Thanks again for your excellent video!@@DanielGoodwin-jq1oc
In order to support your split phase circuits, yes, you will need at least one more delta pro. For split phase circuits, you will need two DPs connected to the SHP. You can run a mixture of split phase and single phase circuits on that same SHP (i.e. 2 split phase circuits and 6 single phase circuits). In my case, it made more sense to just dedicate 1 SHP and 2 Delta Pros for all my split phase circuits but your case may be different. The other SHP can be connected to one Delta Pro and can power up to 10 single phase circuits there.
Makes sense and thanks for the details. One more question is during an outage, how do you use the Delta's to supply power not only to the circuits served by the SHP, but also the rest of the circuits in the main breaker box? I do have a generator input and lockout already so I could swap the SHP out and use my Double Voltage Hub through the generator input, but not sure the SHP will still supply power back to the circuits in the breaker box and there are only one set of connectors on the Delta's for these cables. @@DanielGoodwin-jq1oc
For MSRP? Yes, approximately. you can save a tremendous amount by purchasing refurbished units direct from Ecoflow thru eBay (see the links in my videos above)
*I would say your setup is far from efficient. You would get far more performance and efficiency out of your Delta Pro's by running the dual unit break out bar in 240 Volts AC Split Phase, and plugging in the supplied 240 Volts AC into your Tie-in Receptacle on your home panel. In this way you would actually be drawing less overall current, because the higher you raise your connection AC Voltage, then the lower your average amperage draw becomes. Right now, you're losing tons of current through the overkill of two seperate smart home panels, which actually are operating in desperate AC Voltages (120/240 Volts AC). You need to disconnect the two smart home panels and return to using your Tie-In via two Delta Pros in 240 Volts AC with the Dual Link Hub only. Alternately, you could run both smart home panels in 240 or both in 120, but not one in 240 and the other in 120 Volts AC. This is a really bad idea.*
Can you elaborate on this? I just purchased two pros, two batteries, two generators and the smart home panel but I have not had the panel wired in yet. I was considering this type of dual SHP setup because I have reached the hard limit on the ecoflow pros because I have reached the maximum number of expansions per leg in a two ecoflow pro system. This idea on the surface sounded good to me to expand my setup but I don’t clearly understand your objection. Not an electrician so would be interested in hearing more about your concern. Thanks.
Clarification: You're saying 2 SHP's both either single or dual phase. But not one on 120 and one on 240. Can I run 2 SHP's with just 2 DP's? Both at 240?
Why on Earth did you buy so many of these low surge, short-lived lived units? You could have saved a ton of money if you had purchased a real off grid solar system that used a hybrid, low frequency, transformer based inverter charger, and a bank of high quality LFB batteries. If you had, you would have a system that would give you a far longer life expectancy, far more power output and twice the surge capacity for starting high inductance loads. Plus, unlike this system that uses cheap, difficult and more costly to repair, high frequency, transformerless inverter technology, you would have a system that can be easily repaired.
Holy cow, that is an absolute mess and a total misuse of that product. I have an Eco flow and it is not that durable and it broke within nine months. People who are trying to use this thing on a larger scale for their homes are going to have a rude awakening. That is truly messy electrical workmanship and I highly recommend people do not watch this video.
What are you talking about? This is exactly how the Smart Home Panel was meant to be used. And as for wiring, you can't even see the wiring. He didn't even open up any of the panels. The exterior plumbing looks very clean.
