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EDC Product Development from the Ground Up - The Bourbon Blade 

Jonathan Katz-Moses
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Timestamps
We should do a folding chisel knife - 0:00
Why Knives and Chisels combined are AMAZEBALLS 2:25
What makes a knife good quality? 4:21
Meet The Bourbon Blade 5:33
Types of Knife Locks and Why we Chose the Cross Bar Lock 6:53
Liner Locks ARE NOT FOR TOOLS 9:35
Why we chose the Cross Bar Lock and How it Works 11:31
What is a Premium Knife Steel? 13:04
What Steel did we choose? 15:21
Sandvik 14c28n Corrosion Resistance Salt Water Test 16:20
Accept No Gimmicks and Health Insurance 18:10
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@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
*Support what we do at* KMTools.com *THE BOURBON BLADE (sticker incl.)* kmtools.com/products/the-bourbon-blade-the-original-pocket-chisel *THE BOURBON BLADE T-SHIRT BUNDLE (sticker incl.)* kmtools.com/products/the-bourbon-blade-bundle Blade HQ Knife Steel Guide www.bladehq.com/blog/knife-steel-guide#14C28N Why liner locks fail from the owner of Spyderco ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xLLWuO7ZzrI.htmlsi=tt80oTAQb1HTOJ-N&t=88 Liner Lock Wack Test ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ft3YJaEJ3SM.htmlsi=VWPboJCD5EREgX3C&t=426 How Strong is a Crossbar Lock Testing the Benchmade Osborne 940 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b3X64SYObO8.htmlsi=LvimtXhxD63Zn1S3 Pocket Knife Lock Test ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ERxHUXAFVs4.htmlsi=prHbhJbpIBxClap6&t=728 *The Katz-Moses Woodworkers with Disabilities Fund ABOUT* kmtools.com/pages/kmww-charity
@Bourbonmoth
@Bourbonmoth Месяц назад
I know we made this product together, But I still learned a lot in this video 😂
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
I’m still surprised nobody ended up with stitches
@BiggMo
@BiggMo Месяц назад
@@katzmosestoolsI can help with that. Got mine on order, just a matter of time.
@Damon_Barber
@Damon_Barber Месяц назад
Well…. Jason had me in stitches with his entry and exit. 😂😂😂😂
@_WillCAD_
@_WillCAD_ Месяц назад
@@Damon_Barber Jason often has me in stitches with his vids. Sometimes I wonder if that makes me a snitch. Which I would be okay with, because I love Harry Potter.
@Damon_Barber
@Damon_Barber Месяц назад
@@_WillCAD_ 😝😂😂
@RidgidRon
@RidgidRon День назад
I got my Bourbon Moth Blade. My initial impressions of the Bourbon Blade right out of the Box. I flipped it open for the first time and TING. I had to do it again-TING!! What the heck!!! OK that is the sound of being open into a solid base. That is absolutely impressive-very impressive! Blade is sharp but it will be a few days before I can test it. Why? My wood shop (aka. garage) is an oven!! Now, something else. The lock for the opening mechanism is stiff/tight and little difficult to use. I have no doubt it loosens up after a little use. THE BOURBON BLADE IS SOLID AS HELL. I now need a little bourbon to christen the blade. GOOD JOB!!! Note: The locking mechanism is working great after opening/closing it a number of times. Also, I added a little Metabo Pnuematic tool oil and just made it even smoother than it was.
@atomictyler
@atomictyler Месяц назад
big props for making a left handed version!
@fatguyguns8708
@fatguyguns8708 17 дней назад
I’m not even a wood worker, but I just bought one, for three major reasons. 1) The blade shape is really cool, I enjoy cleaver style blades, but this takes it to another level. 2) Rare to see a flipper style opening with a cross bar lock, really dig that. 3) That sound!!! That “ting” when it opens! Really unique. I doubt Metal Complex or other knife reviewers will ever get their hands of them, but it would be cool to see their take on this.
@chrishb7074
@chrishb7074 Месяц назад
Will we know this got fashionable with gangsta types when we see street furniture and park benches tagged with neatly cut mortices and dovetail pins ?
@MichaelAlm
@MichaelAlm 25 дней назад
I got to test it out last week in Jonathan's shop and It's fantastic! Nice work boys you knocked it out of the park🔥🔥🔥
@MichaelAlm
@MichaelAlm 25 дней назад
PS The table is way cleaner in this video than when I was there 😂
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 24 дня назад
😂😂😂 fair
@schawn-paulrotella5709
@schawn-paulrotella5709 Месяц назад
I bought it right away after I got the email. Didn't even watch the video lol. That demonstrates the level of trust I have in what you all produce--they are truly the finest pieces available on the market. Thank you!
@TyPaff
@TyPaff Месяц назад
Same!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 28 дней назад
Means a lot my friend
@oilcitywoodworks
@oilcitywoodworks 27 дней назад
As a repeat customer of your KM Tools website, a subscriber of your channel for years, and frequent viewer of your videos, I can honestly say I am a proud supporter of what you do and how you do it. Congratulations on being able to provide your folks healthcare, and congratulations on your continued success! As an up and coming RU-vidr/hobbyist woodworker/inventor of sorts myself, I admire what you have built and hope to be there myself, someday. Keep on doing what you're doing and we will continue to support you! Cheers, from Texas!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 27 дней назад
That really means a lot my friend
@DaveEtchells
@DaveEtchells 22 дня назад
I absolutely loved this! I’m an engineer and this fascinated by design decisions, tradeoffs etc. I don’t now that I _need_ this (I get almost no time in the wood shop these days), but I *_want_* one after watching this video! It’s going on my birthday wish-list for the family, so consider it sold 👍😁
@paulellis84
@paulellis84 Месяц назад
Pre-ordered a chisel-knife and shirt. Can't wait until I receive it. Great job from my two favorite RU-vidrs!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@Willybeanmcgraw
@Willybeanmcgraw Месяц назад
My 2 favorite things! Woodworking and knives! Can't wait to get mine
@Luke-fp7ks
@Luke-fp7ks Месяц назад
I’m a finish carpenter. Going to get some of these for Christmas presents for me and my employees
@markrasmussen8565
@markrasmussen8565 29 дней назад
Congratulations - love that you did this, and looks like you nailed it! I've ordered mine, and can't wait for the mini version!!
@billclancy4913
@billclancy4913 21 день назад
As a knife maker, I assure you that quality heat treatment is a major factor. Properly heat trated VG-10 will out perform a poorly heated Magnacut.
@gadfly149
@gadfly149 Месяц назад
I’ve carried a CRKT Razel for around 20 years, including deployments. So useful.
@Seric42
@Seric42 Месяц назад
The Razel was the first thing I thought of when seeing this video. The designer Jon Graham passed away, I'm not reluctant to carry my custom folder from him.
@mitchblackmore5230
@mitchblackmore5230 Месяц назад
I owned one of those for several months before I even noticed that the other edge was actually sharpened. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dtester
@dtester 20 дней назад
I wonder why they speak as though chisel knives never existed until they made this one.
@brianmiles6271
@brianmiles6271 Месяц назад
Wow....was just researching this a couple days ago an came up empty....boom you guys delivered.. Looks awesome, just placed my order.Thank you
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Thank you my friend
@WillPower311
@WillPower311 26 дней назад
Been looking for something like this for a while, I'll be sure to get one
@TSGEnt
@TSGEnt Месяц назад
A brilliant tool for sure. Beautiful.
@daik1
@daik1 24 дня назад
I’m sure glad I ordered the right one hahah didn’t realize there was left hand and right hand 🤦🏻 can’t wait to try this out looks fricken aweosme !
@Momma4Ever
@Momma4Ever Месяц назад
Left Handed knife AMAZING!! Purple handle 💜💜💜💜💜 would be the icing on the cake!!
@fatguyguns8708
@fatguyguns8708 17 дней назад
RIT dye it.
@mrmajestic345
@mrmajestic345 Месяц назад
ordered two, one for me, one for son! Great stuff!
@MontyPython1087
@MontyPython1087 Месяц назад
Jonathan is such a knife nerd 😂. It was great to see your passion in knives.
@troyqueen9503
@troyqueen9503 Месяц назад
Now I’m going to look at bush craft knives.🔪 Thanks ☺️
@douglasbrown3493
@douglasbrown3493 Месяц назад
Thanks JKM and Bourbonmoth. Very, very interested. What I would want to see before buying one is a sharpening video.
@RussThacher
@RussThacher Месяц назад
I placed my order today and can't wait to get it.
@mikeoxmaul3849
@mikeoxmaul3849 27 дней назад
Well you’re gonna wait a longggggggggg time for it
@naioti
@naioti Месяц назад
Supert smart, looks like fantastic product
@nelsoncam123
@nelsoncam123 17 дней назад
PLEASE what is the blade thickness? What is the weight in oz.? What is the total open length? (also nice for some of us would be a listing with the rockwell hardness) . thanks looks like a great job I really hope this knife ("TOOL!!!") stays in production
@delxinogaming6046
@delxinogaming6046 Месяц назад
Please demo the beer opening functionality again, that was too quick 😂
@quadsquadracingable
@quadsquadracingable Месяц назад
I absolutely love buying tools from KM Tools! Knowing what you do for your employees and customers make it a no Brainerd! Speaking of no brains, if you hadn't had Jason's help I'd probably buy one!😂 Actually I am definitely getting at least one of them!
@senthemink
@senthemink 16 дней назад
Putting maxamet, a non-stainless steel up against the 14c28n was a bit misleading. A better comparison would've been the s30v you were contemplating using in the blade, but nonetheless 14c28n is definitely the right choice for this kind of knife
@garyfairbrother5532
@garyfairbrother5532 Месяц назад
I ordered mine and can’t wit to see how, among many other uses, it works with my Kumiko jigs. It will be nice to have a good, robust chisel with a thinner “knife grip”
@vbikcl
@vbikcl Месяц назад
I appreciate that the first thing you addressed was the locking mechanism. My first thought when I heard "folding chisel knife" is "that's a horribly unsafe idea", but it seems you guys also had the same concern and not only addressed it through product design but understood that you had to explain it users as well. That said, I'd still be real hesitant to whack this thing with a hammer while gripping it. I'd be curious to see a slow-mo video of what that lock bar is doing when the knife is being whacked with a hammer.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Yeah it was our number one concern. Had to be safe. That’s a great idea on the video. We have beat the ever loving crap out of them and they are so strong.
@kennethnielsen3864
@kennethnielsen3864 23 дня назад
Thanks for sharing.
@samuelkenney9080
@samuelkenney9080 Месяц назад
I would love to see more videos on the design process and why you made the decisions you made. Beautiful knife and hopefully fills a void I’m sure many shop workers/trades men have in their edc. Would love to know more about the steel you chose. I’ve always thought a 3v chisel knife would be amazing in the shop. But I typically value edge retention and toughness over corrosion resistance. Maybe a premium version with MagnaCut? Anyway, all that to say this knife is beautiful and a very exciting product to see. Can’t wait to get my hands on one and throw it through the test!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
I do about 6 minutes on steel choice and why this is such a perfect t choice for this. Edge retention equals brittle and chipping under high stress and toughness means slightly software.
@samuelkenney9080
@samuelkenney9080 Месяц назад
I think it’s a great steel choice. I was just saying I think it would be interesting content to see some videos going more in depth into the r&d behind the decisions made. As you say it’s the first EDC pocket chisel and I’d be curious to see the curtain pulled back a bit on that process. I don’t disagree with any of the decisions, I bought one as soon as I finished the video. It’s an awesome knife, love seeing the creators I follow coming out with products of their own
@Jake-bt3fc
@Jake-bt3fc Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools "Edge retention equals brittle and chipping under high stress and toughness means slightly software." This is not necessarily true. Toughness and edge retention are not mutually exclusive. High edge retention does not inherently mean low toughness. The entire reason everybody is so hyped about magnacut is that they took s30v and made it way tougher without reducing edge retention at all.
@bryangravely
@bryangravely Месяц назад
First off, I want to make sure and point out, I'm not bashing your product, I've already placed my pre-order. As a collector and bit of a knife nerd, I am curious why you went with ball bearings over phosphorous bronze washers in the pivot. The ball bearings do give knives a glassy smooth action, but they're prone to gumming up when used in dirty, dusty environments, like a workshop. The phosphorous bronze washers still give a buttery smooth action that not only continues to function well when dirty but are also easier to clean. Also, curious who the OEM manufacturer is, is Mikkel making them, or did you go with an OEM like Kizer or QSP for production?
@vie_baobab
@vie_baobab Месяц назад
I wonder if it's possible to have bushings made to fit the same space so the bearings can be replaced with bushings. I also prefer bushings since my knives get USED and I really don't like having to frequently disassemble the knives to clean the bearings.
@vjosullivan
@vjosullivan 28 дней назад
Looks great and I want one but ... what does it do (apart from folding) that a non-folding chisel does, too?
@CarterSchonwald
@CarterSchonwald Месяц назад
What hrc are you targeting with the heat treatment?
@chrislove4594
@chrislove4594 Месяц назад
I've watched both videos and would like to know how much does it weigh? I have about 30 knives and tend to only carry the lighter ones. Nice though.
@bloodgain
@bloodgain Месяц назад
Bit of a knife steel and collector nerd myself. Great job, especially for a first knife design! Mora has made a great carbon steel chisel knife for as long as I've known, and I would consider that EDC, especially for a tradesman. Smith & Wesson makes a folding chisel knife, but they use terrible steel. That said, it's great to see an actual user-designed folding chisel knife design that takes it seriously! You guys should definitely try to get this into retail stores, too, maybe under Mikkel Willumsen's brand name, so you can capture a bit of the knife nerd market. What I'd like to see in a "version 2": - Manual locking pin option. Although a crossbar _should_ be strong enough, for a folding design that is intended to be struck on the end, a static locking pin would be the only fail-safe approach I can think of. - Brass washers instead of bearings. Bearings are great for smoothness and feel, but they are also less resilient to getting dirty. Since this is a tool for working wood, self-lubricating brass washers would be smooth enough for fidgeting, but stand up better to sawdust, grit, and pocket lint. Much easier to clean out, too, without disassembly. - Other steel and scale choices. This one is just obvious for a second release. More personalization options, modern powder metallurgy steels that outperform the Sandvik traditional formula in certain metrics, maybe a salt water resistant version for using on a boat, etc. Definitely good for capturing more of the knife collector/user market. (Though I agree with your choices for first run to hit both your performance and price goals.)
@rpnp2
@rpnp2 Месяц назад
Another knife collector nerd here, and i second most of you said. First thing that popped into my head was Graham Knives the designer of the CRK one. And they could something similar to Demko did with a pin in one of his cold steel knives that essentially locks the knife in place because that axis lock copy is strong but its going to fail on people that hammer on the end. And they would need to up the steel quality, because knife nerds are not going to be a fan of that sandvik steel and want something more premium or atleast stronger, I am surprised they just didn't go straight 3V over sandvik tbh.
@BrandonCabanillas
@BrandonCabanillas Месяц назад
I recently bought a dewalt table saw 10 inch DWE7491RS and would like to buy a multipurpose saw blade. Just in case I accidentally cut metal nails or screws. Which one should I purchase? I'm new to woodworking. Sooner or later, I need to build a sled also
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 Месяц назад
thank you
@pmdinaz
@pmdinaz Месяц назад
JKM BMWW Whew lots o letters! Nice design gents
@KuntaKinteToby
@KuntaKinteToby 24 дня назад
I appreciate the thought and care that went into this but I've never found myself to need a pocket knife at any time in my life.
@nikkishins
@nikkishins Месяц назад
OTF chisel knife when? haha This looks great! Was just wishing there was a safe way to have a chisel on me everywhere in the shop. Can't exactly keep them in your pocket
@BrandonCabanillas
@BrandonCabanillas Месяц назад
I'm right-handed, but I use my left hand to chisel. Is this a unilateral knife chisel?
@critic514
@critic514 22 дня назад
how much does it weigh? dont see it on the website
@MrBassjan
@MrBassjan 18 дней назад
Would have been nice to have a real close-up of the crossbar lock. I couldn't follow exactly everything you showed. Great work!
@MrNitrojj
@MrNitrojj Месяц назад
Why is the back of the handle and back of the knife not in a straight line? It would look better and the force would be going straighter when chiseling with a hammer.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
The hammer strike is in the upper back of the knife which ensures it is inline with the blade. This was on purpose.
@andrewsmith3121
@andrewsmith3121 Месяц назад
I know these are protypes, so a question I have is about the final version and the blade angle to the handle, and also to the butt end of the strike plate. Is the final version going to be parallel, or still retain the slight angle that is evident in these prototypes? I ask because I want to understand how much the front edge of the chisel is going to wander to the side if the blade has that angle included? It will be a learning process to adapt to the induced side to side wander compared to a traditional chisel. How have you and Jason seen this working when using your prototypes? Excellent concept, excellent research, and excellent product!! May just have to order a Left and a Right for my shop use 😊
@evrac1
@evrac1 29 дней назад
This is my concern too. I wish the blade was in line with the handle instead of angled.
@lambdalandis
@lambdalandis Месяц назад
When will the first batch ship? Is this a limited drop or full production run? Is the price on the website for pre-order only or is that the long-term price?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
The first batch ships in 3-5 weeks. I’d get in as soon as possible.
@enjoythevibez5605
@enjoythevibez5605 29 дней назад
you're a gem
@jsand6
@jsand6 Месяц назад
Got me again KM
@floridabeardedwoodworker
@floridabeardedwoodworker Месяц назад
just bought one and I will be doing a review on my channel so make me internet famous like you guys lol
@reyrodriguez9237
@reyrodriguez9237 Месяц назад
Hey i just ordered one and picked the wrong blade. I need a left side i sent a email to you guys this morning.
@fcschoenthal
@fcschoenthal Месяц назад
Great concept, collaboration and end result from two of my favorite makers. JKM, are you going to be bringing some to the Texas Woodworking Festival? You can go ahead and bring Jason too if you want. Ordering one and I'll see you there. - Chris
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Yes and yes my friend. Jason to will be there. So pumped.
@renel2196
@renel2196 Месяц назад
I can't seem to find it written down, is the blade opening mechanism spring activated? It looked like it was on the video. If so it's unfortunately illegal in Canada.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
It is manual. No spring assist for that reason. I’m not trying to navigate all those switch blade laws hahaha
@renel2196
@renel2196 Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools thanks for the confirmation! I really get the concern with those laws. Now that I know it's legal I'll need to get myself one :D
@awakensigns
@awakensigns Месяц назад
Question. I'm right handed but i tend to hold the chisel with my left hand and bang with hammer by my right. Which one should I get? The Burbon Blade Shirt would be cool also. Just sayin'.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Already for sale my friend. Head over kmtools.com
@awakensigns
@awakensigns Месяц назад
​@@katzmosestools Thanks! I updated my comment with a question.
@awakensigns
@awakensigns Месяц назад
I watched the video a couple more times. I went with the right handed chisel and thanks for the shirt also!
@andersoncustomwoodcraft
@andersoncustomwoodcraft 26 дней назад
Really awesome you’re able to get your employees health insurance! People don’t realize how much of a financial burden that is on a business. Phenomenal job
@felixgarcia4001
@felixgarcia4001 Месяц назад
Any chance yall will make a Swiss army style chisel pocket knife with different sized chisels 😅 I already asked my wife to order one for me lol
@vell0cet517
@vell0cet517 Месяц назад
Is there a reason you didn't hollow grind the back side of the chisel? Cost?
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 Месяц назад
Not necessary
@steventraum5203
@steventraum5203 Месяц назад
When are you guys going to make a version with a tanto blade? Its kinda like a skew tip chisel but also serves as a regular knife like non-woodworkers might want. I'd get both.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Fair. We have a whole line of blades coming
@steventraum5203
@steventraum5203 Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools can't wait
@frantiseksram9741
@frantiseksram9741 Месяц назад
Dang it... Why is it so difficult not to buy all these new tools coming out of your shop...?
@DarkWidget
@DarkWidget Месяц назад
Why does the blade seem to not be aligned with the spine, but slightly tilted?? Love it anyhow!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
That’s an ergonomics design choice
@DarkWidget
@DarkWidget Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools Fair enough, almost went crazy watching both videos and none of you talked about it in either 😐😂
@evrac1
@evrac1 29 дней назад
For hammer strike, it should be aligned.
@Jimxorb
@Jimxorb 22 дня назад
The ceramic mug method words but only by pushing the blade forwards, not sliding down the edge like this. It’s not an ideal way to sharpen but can get you out of trouble if you need an edge and have no other tools.
@rpnp2
@rpnp2 Месяц назад
Just read through that bladehq article and im surprised they rated 14c28n so high on the toughness, even over 3v. But they also rated H1 as number one even over 420HC which doesn't make sense. IF H1 was so tough, all the ball bearings in the world would be made out of H1. And they put LC200n tougher than 52100. BTW cool knife, glad your entering the knife market!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
For bearing applications you don’t ever need to sharpen them. Toughness and ease of sharpening is the opposite of hard so bearings are going to be built out of something more towards the middle of the spectrum to avoid unnecessary wear from being spun millions of times. You should read the whole article if you haven’t. It’s really fascinating.
@greenie277
@greenie277 Месяц назад
The above is a great answer, but I'll just add this.... I think you have a misunderstanding of what toughness actually means in this context. A material that is tough is less likely to break or fracture. This typically means that it deforms first. Gold is malleable, deforms easily, and is much tougher than any knife steel but it doesn't perform particularly well as a knife or a bearing for that matter. An incredibly hard knife will chip at the edge or break when dropped. An incredibly tough knife is prone to rolling its edge. Knife steels occupy the usable space on the spectrum between these extremes and where an individual alloy falls on this scale impacts edge retention and ease of sharpening/abrasion.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
watch Jason's Video HERE ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZLkco_yr1aw.htmlsi=XPfSjxJYzx7hQZGE
@seanwhitaker975
@seanwhitaker975 Месяц назад
What's that screwdriver you were using?
@randomutubr222
@randomutubr222 27 дней назад
Found it by taking a screenshot of it in the video and running it through a reverse image search. It's called the Kinetic Driver by Giaco. It basically has a flywheel that will spin the driver smoothly.
@seanwhitaker975
@seanwhitaker975 27 дней назад
@@randomutubr222 awesome thanks!
@greenie277
@greenie277 Месяц назад
What are these knives hardened to? It's not listed on either of your websites. I had this idea a long time ago, but not the means to make it reality. I too would have preferred to see this in S30V or even better S35VN, but I wouldn't beat on this tool to the extent you're describing. That said Rockwell hardness is nearly as important as steel, and if you could share this information here and or on your site I think it would go a long way to inform not just my purchasing decision, but also that of other potential customers.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
You’re right. I’ll add it. I have and HRC tester and will run a few to make sure we have a good average
@greenie277
@greenie277 Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools Awesome, thank you!
@grant72
@grant72 Месяц назад
Dudes when you designing the Skinny version??😊
@markpinther9296
@markpinther9296 Месяц назад
How much is the new knife? Ridiculous website asking for my DOB before I can even check the cost.
@daveklein2826
@daveklein2826 Месяц назад
It's in the link in the description
@coltonstoks9836
@coltonstoks9836 Месяц назад
How would the rest of the knife hold up to the salt solution?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
G10 is basically just stronger micarta so no metal to rust. Not sure about the rest but it’s very oiled before shipment
@coltonstoks9836
@coltonstoks9836 Месяц назад
Might have to add dive knife title to it for you when released. Obviously rinse with fresh water after
@timpurcell2717
@timpurcell2717 Месяц назад
Why is the blade logo a hand with an amputated finger?
@clauslangenbroek9897
@clauslangenbroek9897 Месяц назад
Because that's the secret sign of rogue woodworkers. Just kidding ☺️
@evrac1
@evrac1 29 дней назад
Agreed, this is a big negative for me. Really off putting. Disgusting.
@clauslangenbroek9897
@clauslangenbroek9897 29 дней назад
@@evrac1 I like it. It's a very common injury amongst wood workers, often resulting from careless handling of machines and therefore a good reminder; in my opinion. I totally understand why someone wouldn't like it or be offended by it, though. Especially if they or anyone they know have had this experience (Or for reasons of vulgarity for that matter...)
@edcgearpocketknife
@edcgearpocketknife 17 дней назад
What’s the warranty on these ?
@edcgearpocketknife
@edcgearpocketknife 5 дней назад
Any updates when will they ship. No one is answer my questions or emails.
@davem4256
@davem4256 Месяц назад
Why do I need this?
@jamesrenforth
@jamesrenforth Месяц назад
Could you make a UK legal one?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
In the works
@JohnJohnson-qb9in
@JohnJohnson-qb9in 18 дней назад
How much is a thing?
@FaygoGrapeDavis
@FaygoGrapeDavis Месяц назад
It would be awesome if eventually they came in different blade sizes, like a 3/4" or 1/2" blade
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
In the works
@commentsonthetube14
@commentsonthetube14 Месяц назад
Are you worried about edge retention with a softer steel like that? I feel like I'd have expected D2 or another harder steel. Most bench chisels I see tend to lean towards using an extremely hard steel. Love the design though!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
We wanted toughness which is the opposite of edge retention. I go into deep detail in the second half.m as to why we chose it.
@commentsonthetube14
@commentsonthetube14 Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools Got it, make sense. I guess it's meant to be more of a beater.
@camerontgore
@camerontgore Месяц назад
Hey buddy!
@bw162
@bw162 Месяц назад
I think you are on to something. Just add a caliper, extendable tape measure and foldable square and you’ll have the Woodworker’s Swiss Pocket Tool.
@nelsoncam123
@nelsoncam123 17 дней назад
foldable square, now that would be a precision manufacturing achievement
@nickcrouch5622
@nickcrouch5622 Месяц назад
How to sharpen?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Covered in the video but it’s incredibly easy to
@lambdalandis
@lambdalandis Месяц назад
Edges are flat, so there’s no real trick to sharpening it. Stones will work well, your mileage may vary with jigs designed for double sided bevel knives
@davebaumga
@davebaumga Месяц назад
Preordered. This "knife?" has been on my YT startup page for a couple days and I was so confused by it I never clicked through to see what it was me not being a knife collector and all. Now it's 1am on a Tuesday. I'm drunk and autisticly trying to figure out who's shop I have a better chance of getting a first run from. "If train A has 550k cars and train B has 1.11m cars how is the first run of knives split between the two trains and will which one has a better chance of stopping by my place?"
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Hahaha you made first batch if you order today. Cheers
@_WillCAD_
@_WillCAD_ Месяц назад
Ordered mine this morning. Great price, I expected it to be over $300, but $159 is affordable for just about everyone.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Thank you my friend
@Ice_Berg
@Ice_Berg Месяц назад
That's super cool, and as a knife obsessed woodworked I love the idea, but I can't help but wonder what the longevity of it will be. You can't really sharpen more than a 1/4 inch off the tip without it becoming a little dangerous when folded because of the exposed tip along the spine. If you are regularly using it to chisel stuff and want to keep that portion sharp then in a few years the knife becomes a little uncarryable.
@andrewknots
@andrewknots Месяц назад
Unfortunately there is a 3” blade length restriction for general carry in Britain. You have to have a valid reason for longer blades
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Tell them you have to have a super deep mortise 🤷‍♂️
@commentsonthetube14
@commentsonthetube14 Месяц назад
Y'all ought to vote for some knife law reform, that's just crazy. I thought blade locks weren't allowed either.
@andrewknots
@andrewknots Месяц назад
Yep no blade locks either. That really is a crazy rule.
@monty1254
@monty1254 Месяц назад
Would a valid reason be that I am a Texan visiting?
@andrewknots
@andrewknots Месяц назад
@@monty1254 sorry no, it's more about a need for a job vs casual carry, eg a roll of chef's knives is fine, a hunting knife when going shooting. A 8" diver's knife with wet-suit & goggles…
@chrisjaustin88
@chrisjaustin88 Месяц назад
Now give me a a set of chisels with that steel!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
They're coming
@danielcox9202
@danielcox9202 Месяц назад
I had no idea you were such a knife snob. lol. I also suffer from your knife fetish. I have a similar affliction. My new everyday carry is an Ace Biblio with brass scales and M390. I do have many of the blades you talked about. I can certainly get on board with this knife but I would like to see a tougher steel. I will be on board as soon as you make one with something like M4 or even the new Magna Steel. Magna may actually excel with this type of design. Looking forward to seeing where this will all go.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
The Sandvik is as tough if not tougher than both of those. Check out the link I posted in the pinned comment. It’s tough AF.
@danielcox9202
@danielcox9202 Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools I've had a knife or two with sandvik, and I was unhappy mostly due to the edge retention. I suppose I need to remember this is not a knife, so edge retention is not the most important factor. I may be coming around to it. lol
@ADwOS
@ADwOS Месяц назад
I'd love one... but probably too much of a gamble to get past Australian Border Force (Customs). Technically it should be fine... but they get to interpret the rules how they like, it seems. 😒
@BiggMo
@BiggMo Месяц назад
Oregon?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
It’s a state. Hi big mo
@BiggMo
@BiggMo Месяц назад
Morning Johnathan. Great product, I sincerity appreciate that you walk us through the product design process. Make me think differently about design of everything
@halsti99
@halsti99 Месяц назад
Very cool. Sadly illegal to carry in germany, as any one handed knive is. like it though!
@greenie277
@greenie277 Месяц назад
Wait... so you guys can carry 2 handed knives? I didn't realize you guys were still toting around Kriegsmessers xD I'm interested in what locking mechanisms you're restricted to. Do you only have slip joints and frame locks, or does the restriction have to do with the inclusion of a flipper tab?
@halsti99
@halsti99 Месяц назад
@@greenie277 2 handed in that context means you need to open it with 2 hands. so anything you can open with just one is immediatly illegal to carry. so, thumb knob, flip tab, otf, butterfly all of it is out. Leatherman actually makes a Wave version that doesnt have the hole cutout in the main blade, just so you can carry it here. other than that, you have a length restriction that i dont remember from the top of my head. think its somewhere around 9-12 cm, so ruffly 4-5 inches for folding knives. bit longer for fixed ones.
@greenie277
@greenie277 Месяц назад
@@halsti99 ​ Wow, maybe there are a lot of options made specifically for your market, but that seems pretty restrictive. I think the only knife I have that meets those requirements that isn't some cheap multi-tool is a case knives slip joint folder. Thanks for the reply, and for entertaining my curiosity.
@scottbitz5222
@scottbitz5222 Месяц назад
I love how we watch him realize Jason is a ridiculous person live on camera with "They saw you do that!" :D
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
😂😂 Jason and I have been very good friends for years. I am still surprised by his antics on a daily basis
@FriedPi-mc5yt
@FriedPi-mc5yt Месяц назад
“The crossbar lock is the strongest lock.” *Demko Triad lock has entered the chat*
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
Haha yeah I love those. Patented tech and some people complain they accidentally unlock them when squeezing a onife
@FriedPi-mc5yt
@FriedPi-mc5yt Месяц назад
@@katzmosestools Weird, I never had a triad lock come unlocked when I was gripping the knife. But yeah, since the patent has run out on the crossbar lock, it’s probably the best option for a tool like this. I sure wouldn’t trust any liner lock or frame lock to hold up for any length of time. Out of all the lock designs out there to choose from, I think y’all went with the top option.
@rpnp2
@rpnp2 Месяц назад
@@FriedPi-mc5yt yeah he should of just said its patented.. dude found the .0001% of the population that had a triad lock come unlocked on them. #1 gripe i heard about the triad locks were they were hard to open one handed, but that's about it.
@FriedPi-mc5yt
@FriedPi-mc5yt Месяц назад
@@rpnp2 They might be a little hard to open when new. But once they are broken in, they are really smooth for a mid lock. I mean, they will never be as buttery smooth as a well made liner lock or a bunch of other lock types. But they can be pretty smooth. I usually take mine apart, clean all the oil off and buff all the engagement points to a mirror finish. Then re-oil them and put them back together with blue loctite on every screw. I’ve done enough of them to know what to look for and where on the parts to put effort. On some of them I’ve even reduced the spring pressure on the lock bar because they were hell to unlock with one hand. I’ve carried the XL Voyager knives for years on lots of construction jobs and never had one close on me by accident. I had several from other knife companies that did. One Benchmade in particular. It was a liner lock. I was making a twisting cut and the meat of my index finger got onto the liner lock just enough to disengage it. Fortunately it didn’t cut me bad, but it got my attention as to how a badly designed liner lock could ruin your day. I also had a liner lock fail on me and it bent more easily than I thought was possible. I don’t buy liner locks anymore for the most part. The ones I still have are strictly for opening boxes and envelopes. Edit: I almost forgot. The Cold Steel AD 10 really surprised me. The one I got was the most butter smooth triad lock I ever pulled out of a box. Lots of other people have made the same comment. I’m not sure what voodoo was worked at the factory for that one. But it was really amazing right out of the box. If you get the urge for a new knife, that’s definitely one you should have in your collection. It’s a 3.5” blade of S35VN with G10 handles and I believe it has aluminum liners. It’s a chunk too. If would make a nice fist load for a bar fight. 😂
@timpurcell2717
@timpurcell2717 Месяц назад
Why oh Why! is the image on the blade that of a hand with an amputated finger?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
That’s one of Jason’s logos
@evrac1
@evrac1 29 дней назад
It’s distasteful
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 28 дней назад
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. I think it’s hilarious.
@markusesslinger
@markusesslinger Месяц назад
Ball bearings? Isn't that just a fidget-feature and less durable than plain simple washers?
@BobAmarant
@BobAmarant Месяц назад
Looks good. Why is the blade and handle not in a straight line?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
It’s for ergonomics
@BobAmarant
@BobAmarant 28 дней назад
Looks weird to me and subject to fold. If you develop an inline version I’m a buyer. I already have your dovetail jig and crosscut sled stop. Love both your channels. 🎉
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 28 дней назад
Thanks for your support my friend. Obviously we disagree with your assessment or we wouldn’t have released it. Mikkel has 28 years of knife design experience and has designed for some of the biggest names in the game. Jason has many years of destroying things experience and I have to accept the liability.
@BobAmarant
@BobAmarant 27 дней назад
@@katzmosestools I wish you all the best. Keep up all the good work 🗜
@troyqueen9503
@troyqueen9503 Месяц назад
Watched the Bourbon Moth prior to this.😂😂😂
@milosdimitrijevic5694
@milosdimitrijevic5694 14 дней назад
triad lock is far a way strongest lock in folders, but you need two hands to close it... and probably patent rights with andrew demko
@disco_falcon1895
@disco_falcon1895 Месяц назад
Is it just me or does the blade not quite look straight to the handle?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools Месяц назад
It is not. That’s on purpose for ergonomics.
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