It’s ridiculous the guy is a problem coming off the edge even when he is not getting sacks he is always getting pressure or blowing up running plays in the backfield
I find it hilarious how you guys only have 26k subscribers (somehow) but the number of views you have after uploading in the middle of the night 😂. Those that do watch get hooked and are hardcore. Keep on keepin on, great episode.
Good stuff fellas. I remember around this time last year when I stumbled on this show... I gotta be honest, my first impression was "Who the hell are these jabronis?" But I quickly realized you're not some pop shop youtubers, and that you know your stuff. For someone who doesn't pay attention to college ball enough, I love getting a grip for the draft through your shows.
Dorlus is a lot like JPJ in that what should be a highly coveted quality in their position versatility can be misconstrued as no true speciality. But I truly believe both will be invaluable to whatever team drafts them because they can play so many different positions and techniques well. Are there better pass rushers than Dorlus? Of course, but can all of them like up inside or outside depending on the weakness of a defense? I doubt it. Are there better run stuffers? Of course, he’s not 6’ 350, but he’s shown solid hand fighting moves to blow up a line in run and pass sets. I think he’ll be a steal in round 3, just because the WR and tackle class is going to occupy such a large part of the first two rounds of the draft.
I dont know how you can watch Mo Kamara's tape and not want your team to draft him. Honestly, there's a lot of those guys in this draft class for me. Also, I agree that these episodes are the absolute best. It's fun to hear your opinions on the lesser heralded prospedts, particularly the guys from smaller conference schools.
Could anyone sell Adisa Isaac to me? I feel like everywhere (not just here) he gets a quick couple sentences and that's it. What am I missing? Which why I am so much lower on him. I don't see where he wins as a pass rusher. He's strong, but I see that show more against the run than pass. At his size I want more impact in the pass than I think I see.
Speaking of short-king pass rushers.. is it obvious I have a soft spot for shorter d-linemen??.. Did y'all know that Elvis Dumerville's middle name is Kool? Elvis Kool Dumerville.
Would be interesting to look at this year plus one or two at each position. If you are a NFL GM, you might add a "place holder" player with late round with your eye on an upgrade in out years. Especially since no team has 22 first round choices. Thanks for taking so long on edge. As a Rams fan, interesting to see players outside first few.
I think there a really high chance that Mo Kamara is just a guy but if he gets paired with amazing coaches and they giude his insane effort level into the correct avenues he could be something.
Hey guys! Love the videos. This is my first year really diving into the draft and I'm loving it. Just one suggestion that would really help me out would be to put your round grade next to the player on the list. I know you guys mention it in your conversation but it would help to see those all on the board! Keep it up guys.
For me it's #1 Verse, #2 Latu, and hot take #3 Isaac. Also can you guys do an updated WR and CB rankings? Like there's no way Tez Walker is still in your top 5 WR's...right?
@@warvath I know Isaac's testing was a little disappointing but from the clips I've seen, not claiming I've grinded the All 22 or anything, he seems almost as explosive off the ball as Chop and Turner but I thought he was more creative and instinctual with his moves. Tbh it's mostly a hunch with Isaac cuz it just looks right to me when I watch him
@@josephiousbrosifappreciate the response. Not saying your wrong. Think you're closer to the consensus than I am. I'm Just watch what I can find on YT lol. I agree he has some explosiveness, but I didn't see it lead to beating the tackle outside with speed, or speed to power rush very effectively. Think he's definitely a smart player and strong to hold up well for his size against the run. But seems undersized for that type of play style .
Why can't I get someone to talk about Brennan Jackson? How I hope the Lions draft this guy, but I just don't know if this works without some trade down or something with the Lions not having a pick between 73 and 164.
I wrote this in another reply, but here were my thoughts: “I liked Jackson a good bit as a power 4-3 DE. Powerful first step, consistent low leverage, good hand placement for an effective bull rush. Really bullied any tight ends that were on his side of the LOS to block. He’s more build up speed than sudden twitchiness, and the arm length is an issue for more rush moves and getting off blocks. But I think he’s a solid DE for a 4-3 scheme”
Elliss is very underrated as a pass rush imo. He’s Latu-lite. Both guys aren’t the best athletes, but they both win with fantastic hand usage and a great understanding of what works and why with power and finesse moves. Kneeland is similar to Trice in that they both win primarily with speed-to-power and running through OTs, but unlike Trice, Kneeland is well above 250 lbs with well above average arm length, and he also scored well in agility drills, which doesn’t really show up in his game right now, but is good to know he can tap into a bit more.
@@TampaBayTre I’m hoping my Lions Draft Ellis or Kneeland, that is unless Latu falls to pick 20 or even close to it. If that happens and I was Brad Holmes I’d trade up and give away a future second rounder to go get Latu. Having Latu, Reader, Alim and Hutch on the line would be nasty.
I've been waiting for this video for AGES! Since the Ohio State boys decided to go back, I was terrified for my Bears. Idk who is available for pick 75. We FINALLY get to hear about Brandon Dorlus
Have you heard of WR Xavier Weaver? He just ran a 4.42 at his pro dsy when speed was supposed to be his biggest issue, i think someone has to draft the kid
Vikings fan here. I am concerned about Turner's recognition, tackling and run defense. Good pass rusher but needs more technique work to be great at the next level. Overall, needs A LOT more coaching and polish to warrant what the Vikings gave up for him. Hope the coaches can get him up to speed quickly.
The funny thing about Harrell is they used to use him as a run defender for Ojabo when he struggled or they wanted to drop a guy into coverage. I think there’s a lot of untapped potential there.
Interesting to hear about Dallas Turner post-draft. I think the Atalanta Falcons took that into consideration when they took Michael Penix Jr at 8 overall. If you both are questioning why Turner is not better, and the Falcons, desperate for edge rush, passed on him, then he falls to 18, and the Vikings get criticized for trading up for him, then I think that tells us what we need to know.
Hi guys ! Watching you from France ! As you probably know, there's not a huge football community here but we surely are passionate. I myself have a (very) small podcast in french where I talk about QBs in the league and invite whoever wants to come to talk, exchange ideas and point of views. There's a very good french website with a lot of podcasts and contents but... Man, since the Super Bowl, I miss football so much that it wasn't enough for me. So I found your podcast by chance, going around RU-vid. And I completely agree with what you said at the end of this video. It's been really fun to watch and it made me think about things that I hadn't gone through when I was evaluating prospects and making my own Big Board and mocks. So I just wanted to say thank you because I really enjoy what you do and it definitely helps me facing the lack of football in my life until September. Keep going !
Trice might be a compiler, but that applies to Jonah Ellis as much as anyone else - he smoked Cal, Arizona State, and UCLA, all of which had terrible tackles. The rest of his season was just solid
With the Kamara pick for Connor it makes me think about that meme of “what would you do if you were just giving a billion dollars” and Connor would go “billion dollar parlay”. That’s what Mo Kamara is to him 😂
Love your guys content,but one thing I’ve noticed is no type of individualism.What I mean by that is the constant agreeing with one another when In the beginning of a segment it sounds like your rankings differ by five or six spots.Like that’s a BIG difference,but it always ends with yea we agree.Like come on guys stand your ground debate your reasoning even a LIL.Not saying argue,but we want to hear why the difference is so different
I watched this whole thing to listen to what they have to say about Jonah Elliss. Who's the player in both their top 5s only to skip talking about? Jonah Elliss. FML
You’re right! Let me do there here: I liked Jackson a good bit as a power 4-3 DE. Powerful first step, consistent low leverage, good hand placement for an effective bull rush. Really bullied any tight ends that were on his side of the LOS to block. He’s more build up speed than sudden twitchiness, and the arm length is an issue for more rush moves and getting off blocks. But I think he’s a solid DE for a 4-3 scheme
Turner does not have the production he needs to be a top 10 pick in my opinion. Latu does but his medicals make him iffy. Verse is the only guy that is more of a sure thing but still not a top 5 or maybe even a top 10 talent. imo
Do you think harrel can be a guy that a defense moves him around from edge to off ball LB and just blitz him from a bunch of different alignments or he is just not strong enough
My hot take is I think Oweh was better than Chop and he had zero sacks. Chop scares the hell out of me as a first rounder. 1. Latu - top 15 2. Turner - top 15 3. Verse - top 15 4. Elliss - end of 1st - 2nd 5. Braswell - 2nd
Hey guys, I've been thinking about summer scouting quite a bit and have a lot of questions, but I'll just ask this one. How do you guys approach it and find the players to be more specific I guess? Love the pod, you guys are easily the best in the biz and quite the entertaining duo!
So where do you guys land on Eyabi Okie-Anoma? I have him in my top 20, mostly off of pedigree and shrine bowl performance, but I'm not quite so sure how real he is with no testing and his general volatility on the field. It looks like he's still got that legit burst and 5* athleticism, am I wrong to think that he still might be able to translate those flashes even now?Also, AJ Simon from Albany? Maybe like a little Jared Verse .5 out of his old program? Something to think about.
Yo Trevor, in the draft guide, the rankings for Pressure 2 Sack for QBs have their rank flipped so the players with the lowest percentage have the lowest rank. Seems like a mistake.