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EdgeTX Easy Wireless Trainer Setup for Everybody with DSM, AFHDS2, and D16 

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In this EdgeTX video, I'll show you how to use the 4-in-1 Multi-Protocol Module on the Radiomaster TX16s to pair with any DSM, FlySky AFHDS, D16 for a super clean wireless trainer setup.
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@Graiguenoe
@Graiguenoe 3 месяца назад
Great help, you really give very clear instructions on how to get the most out of Radiomaster radios.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@Retset
@Retset Год назад
Very useful and well explained. The fact it can be done with a radio like a Spektrum is really fantastic.
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад
Yep, it certainly is! It means that after buying a truly competent $200 Radiomaster (or other) Multi Protocol Radio you can still get some use out of your $600 Spektrum radios by giving them to the kids to kick around. 🤔😜😁
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Thanks! Glad you found it useful.
@Retset
@Retset Год назад
@@theoztreecrasher2647 as a bloke with a DX9, which I used to love, sitting in its case, no longer used, your comment gave me a good laugh 😂
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад
@@Retset LOL! Aw don't worry. I've got a stack of money tied up in stuff that I shouldn't have bought! 😂
@Mr89Falcon
@Mr89Falcon Год назад
@@theoztreecrasher2647 😂🤣👍🏼Right??!!
@bitogre
@bitogre Год назад
I think a key difference between channel and stick is that with sticks, the student radio does not have to have model specific information as it effects the inputs on the master radio. Channel on the other hand bypasses the mixes on the master radio and the channels received are copied to the masters TX. There is a way for you to get the extra channels when using Sticks trainer mode. For both the Input and Mix screens, you can select any trainer input channel as a source for any input/mix. They are labeled "TR" followed by the channel number. So TR1 is student channel 1, TR5 is student channel 5, ... I think the TR sources always provide the student channels in case you were using that for controlling a camera pan/tilt or other such functionality so use activation switch when adding to mix/input. I prefer to use sticks so my trainer radio does not need to have model specific config.
@williamcox3852
@williamcox3852 Год назад
Nice job John. Very informative snippet. Since I got into rc airplanes a few years ago, I struggled when I went with a Radiomaster 16S. You have been a great resource to learn everything I need to know about programing the radio. Keep up the good work.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Thanks Bill. Always happy to help. Glad you're becoming an EdgeTX Ninja!!!
@michelpetrus
@michelpetrus 4 месяца назад
This is really a great feature. I hope that it will be possible in the future to do the same thing with ELRS. Ie having a student radio with ELRS and using an ELRS external module.
@bsr3280
@bsr3280 Год назад
Ps if you have upgraded your radio from open TX to edge TX make sure you upgrade your internal module RU-vid video Module update recommended. How to flash radio master TX 16 Multi protocol module in edge TX posted May 2, 2022 Once again you’re the man. Cannot thank you enough.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
You're welcome. Glad to help.
@bsr3280
@bsr3280 Год назад
You are the man! This is awesome!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@saxonrc
@saxonrc 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Thanks!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 11 месяцев назад
You're welcome!
@kosolh
@kosolh Месяц назад
Very useful. Thank you.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Месяц назад
You are welcome!
@kool-k-kel
@kool-k-kel Год назад
great job, thank you
@JonoRob
@JonoRob Год назад
that's cool, thanks
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
No problem!
@chestergt7765
@chestergt7765 Год назад
Awesome. I was gonna work on doing this for a RC car. I've been using my TX16 to drive the car because I have ERLS on it but it's hard to control. So I've been wanting to hook up a RC car controller as a trainer and keep the express ERLS
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Pretty cool use case!
@chestergt7765
@chestergt7765 Год назад
@@RCVideoReviews it's really cool. You can get GPS speed and telemetry. I'll be posting up a video in a month about it. I'm pretty excited about it.
@Mr89Falcon
@Mr89Falcon Год назад
Thank you SO much! You have just solved my only reticence with moving to the Radiomaster TX-16s: The ability to train others wirelessly with Spektrum. This is why I am happy to support you as a Patreon...you multiply my equipment investment value exponentially, as I would NEVER be able to figure this stuff out in a lifetime! I'm sure that this will not be as simple as you made it look but looking forward to the challenge. Two requests, though: 1) Can you make a Spektrum-specific quick video, since there are so many of us converts from Spektrum, and 2) Are your trainer plane STL files available somewhere? that is a VERY cool training/learning aid that you have there. Just brilliant stuff!👍👍👍👍
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Not likely for the Spek video for a number of reasons…not the least of which is that I don’t own any Spektrum gear. Here is a video explaining the RCVR-1 model: FREE: RCVR-1 How to Download and Setup 3D Printed RC Airplane Demonstration Model ru-vid.compnnZsoIRyGM?feature=share
@Mr89Falcon
@Mr89Falcon Год назад
@@RCVideoReviews Thank you! Promise I won't monetize the files;-)
@bsr3280
@bsr3280 Год назад
I have the DX6 and this video works perfectly for spectrum. Spectrum is DSM 22ms, you may have to purchase a external DSM for your Radio master tx16s (master radio).
@Mr89Falcon
@Mr89Falcon Год назад
@@bsr3280 Thanks a bunch! That is super helpful to know!
@bsr3280
@bsr3280 Год назад
I have DSM in the list But I do not have DSMRX on the list?
@randyjohnson735
@randyjohnson735 Год назад
For other folks like me who came over from spektrum, it should be noted that you can pair the tx16s to a dx8g2 without the need for a second tx module in the bay of the tx16s. The gen2 spekys contain an rx and tx that function simultaneously. However, the speky has to be the master and you will have to let the student handle your tx16s 😞
@jamesmoore9008
@jamesmoore9008 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for this information as I’ve been trying to find the answer to this. My instructors all use newer Spektrum and I plan to get TX16Smkii 4in1. Was wondering if I needed an external module.
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 7 месяцев назад
@@jamesmoore9008 Probably would be worth the very reasonable cost of the External Multi module. That way you could hand your "Instructors" the TX16S to evangelize the poor silly Spektrum suckers. We really do have "God on our side!" 😈😜😂
@jamesmoore9008
@jamesmoore9008 7 месяцев назад
@@theoztreecrasher2647 I did end up getting a TX16smkii. Everything works great. I would have felt silly spending more after seeing how well it works.
@sotm6078
@sotm6078 8 дней назад
Can you show how to get more than 4 channels in Trainer mode??
@RichieG66
@RichieG66 Год назад
Interesting that you noticed frsky trainer signal lost issues. I see that as well at the field. I have a TX16 mk1 and the trainer port is useless as well. Going to try using a student flysky tramsmitter...
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
The sbus trainer option works well with RXs connected to AUX1 or AUX2.
@JK00JK
@JK00JK 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this and your older video on the same topic (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iiZehq3aS2A.html) - between the two I was able to get my TX16s working in buddy box mode with an old Spektrum (E-flite) MLP6DSM. I wanted to share a headache that had me confused for a while. In your other video, you off-handedly mentioned using the internal 4-in-1 module as the receiver, until trying that all of my binding attempts had failed using the external module as the RX. All of the documentation suggests this doesn't matter, so I think the issue has more to do with the antenna position, using the same protocol for both (DSM) and possible receiver de-sense (overloading). Keeping that in mind, low power mode also may have helped overcome this. You mentioned some issues that you thought had to do with being too close, I'm curious if spacing the radios out resolves this or if it's the proximity of the *modules* that is the issue. I'm going to try running a coax cable to get one antenna further away. The other big thing I noticed is the latency. The "Student" controller experiences notable latency in the controls that isn't there on the Master. I'm curious if this is less of an issue with something like ELRS or another protocol. I've found complaints about Spektrum Buddy Box mode having high latency even in official Spektrum controllers with cable.
@garyarmst
@garyarmst Год назад
Great job, John!!! Question: If I'm using two TX16S radios, do I have to have the external module?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
You need three transmitters. 1 Student to Master 2 Master as RX 3 Master to Model
@SnTu9743
@SnTu9743 11 месяцев назад
Great video, we were trying this today with two "out of the box" TX16S 4in1 " and did manage to bind them together. But we couldnt bind to the plane from the master. Do we have to use an external module for external bind? Or is it possible with no "extensions" addons. Greetings from Norway. Keep up the great work
@Ard1400
@Ard1400 Год назад
Thanks for the great video. Is there a possibility to use the Expo settings of the Master transmitter? instead of the Student? I have connected a joystick to my transmitter as a student, but it has no Expo setting options.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
You’d have to experiment. I don’t know. I know the master rates are used. Not sure about expo.
@user-ul7cr4kh6o
@user-ul7cr4kh6o 4 месяца назад
thanks for video. i want to ask if i have two different radio but all edge TX, such as TX16S and pocket , can i use the trainer mode,thank you
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 3 месяца назад
Yes.
@markbiddle8182
@markbiddle8182 3 месяца назад
hi all, has anyone else had issues with one module nocking out the other one. I have a tx16s 4 in1 connected as multi/trainer to a student Radiomaster pocket. I have a Elrs module in the JR bay but as soon as there are both active I loose the trainer controls. i have tried different rx protocols which has slightly differnet effects like constant trianer recovered to trainer lost. Thanks
@leemiles3995
@leemiles3995 3 месяца назад
For some reason, my signal from the trainer transmitter is super laggy and keeps on jumping around, making it unflyable. do you know how to fix this? I have a T antenna on my external multi module, and am using my internal ELRS to communicate with the model.
@bsr3280
@bsr3280 Год назад
And it keep flashing Module update recommended?
@NiCadHeliPilot
@NiCadHeliPilot Год назад
Awesome work, here. Looks like I won't need to throw my old Spektrum DX7S out after all. I'm gonna go ahead & bench test this setup where my DX7S is the Student's Controller & the Instructor's Controller is my RadioMaster TX16S Max Edition, & see how that turns out. =^/,..,^=
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Thanks! Let me know how it works out.
@NiCadHeliPilot
@NiCadHeliPilot Год назад
@@RCVideoReviews Yea, I gave it a go, last night. It didn't work. My guess is it's because my DX7S is way too old (it's from 2011). Even though it has both DSM2 & DSMX protocols, I guess it has outdated versions of them. Yet... funnily enough, I had no problems binding my RadioMaster TX16S to my Spektrum AR8000 that's in my T-Rex 500 ESP 3G (both of which are from 2011, also).
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
The RX option is DSM. Is DSM2/X supposed to be backward compatible? Did you use the auto mode? I don’t know much about DSM.
@NiCadHeliPilot
@NiCadHeliPilot Год назад
@@RCVideoReviews Auto Mode is not available for the DSM_RX protocol on my RadioMaster TX16S. It's only there if I have it on its regular DSM mode. I was trying to have my RadioMaster setup as the Instructor's Controller & my old DX7S as the Student's Controller.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
I see. Guess it has to be DSM then. Not DSM2/X.
@RcBuddy
@RcBuddy Год назад
👍👍👍
@witodeclown
@witodeclown Год назад
Hello John, Really like your trainer mode with the internal module it works perfect with the FrySky Xlite and a TS16S. But can you use it with the pan and tilt together on trainer mode so you can flight together. I use the headtracker project with the Arduino Nano 33 BLE. Can you run 2 trainers ad the same time or is there another option to use both.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
I don't understand your question. You can't run two trainers on one master at the same time as far as I know. You can send from the trainer to the master any channels you want based on the trainer configuration. So if you want a pilot an co-pilot where the pilot cares for flight modes and sticks, you can do that while receiving pan and tilt from the co-pilot. I'm not sure if this is what you're asking. In any case, please join discord for follow-up. RU-vid is not good at the inevitable back and forth I see coming with this question. Invite is in the description.
@witodeclown
@witodeclown Год назад
Yeh I will try thru the co-pilot the pan and tilt. Thx
@BBFPV
@BBFPV 11 месяцев назад
FS2A_RX works terrible! Specially with my Turnigy EVO
@Yogenh
@Yogenh 9 месяцев назад
Can you use a Spectrum transmitter as a trainer with the TX 16S as master
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 9 месяцев назад
If you have a TX16s with MPM, you can use the wireless function between the MPM and Spektrum TX for the student. You will also need a TX16s to model radio system of course.
@JK00JK
@JK00JK 9 месяцев назад
Yes. I was able to do it, but I had better luck using the internal radio as the DSM_RX and I put the other radio in low power mode to get a bind. That will reduce control range, so I'll probably disable low power mode before actually flying if it doesn't cause the connection to drop.
@NealM07
@NealM07 8 месяцев назад
Hello . . .I have a question that I've been struggling with for a couple of days . . . . Can this be used to set up multiple models ?? So that a student can fly 2 or 3 different models using this method?? ie. can you have 2 or 3 models set up on the student transmitter and have them all binding to the same TX16S (that's set up in RX mode ?? ).... Thanks . .
@theoztreecrasher2647
@theoztreecrasher2647 7 месяцев назад
Of course you can. Just set up a new model on the student radio for each model you want to fly. You will want to use a different receiver number for each model in the settings otherwise (at least if using the FlyskyRX protocol that I am familiar with - no experience with Spektrum) the bind for each additional model will drop the previous binds.
@rockyprivratsky5692
@rockyprivratsky5692 Месяц назад
Well, copied all this and used the external 4 in 1 module as my DSM- RX Trainer transmitter for the master. The external transmitter module will not bind the other TX16S internal 4 in 1 module on DSMX auto? Any ideas?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Месяц назад
Join discord. Invite is in description of every video I post.
@rockyprivratsky5692
@rockyprivratsky5692 Месяц назад
Okay. Just accepted the Discord invitation, but I cannot post anything? Says I’m not on the same server?
@paololonzi
@paololonzi 7 месяцев назад
Work with all the tx16s? Or only mark ll?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 7 месяцев назад
It'll work with either one.
@ilgeq9062
@ilgeq9062 Год назад
I have a Multiprotocol module on my FrSky X-Lite Pro, which is on OpenTX 2.3.15 ,but I can't select Master/Multi in the Trainer Mode selection. Is this only available on EdgeTX?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Sorry, but I left OpenTX some time ago. I don't have it on any of my radios anymore, and I don't use FrSky either. So I'm afraid I'm not much help on this question.
@ilgeq9062
@ilgeq9062 Год назад
@@RCVideoReviews I can now confirm that it only seems to be available on EdgeTX or OpenTX versions higher than 2.3.15. Thank you for your quick answer though!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Appreciate the follow-up.
@skelethornbro
@skelethornbro Год назад
This is awesome ! Can this be done automatically? I mean, if master centered the stick then it will use student channel, if master move the stick then student will be ignored, will be quicker in case of emergency but of course after using a switch to activate the trainer.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Radiomaster WT01 Wireless Trainer Setup with Quick Takeback on EdgeTX and TX16s ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-030liiCDXYY.html Just use the logic shown here.
@skelethornbro
@skelethornbro Год назад
Wow thanks! I thought it was impossible.
@FS_Performance
@FS_Performance 10 месяцев назад
I don't have the Trainer Option shown in 4:20.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 10 месяцев назад
You have to have your multi-module turned on for the option to show.
@FS_Performance
@FS_Performance 10 месяцев назад
@@RCVideoReviews It was on, but know I have found the option in my case the option is called "DSC PPM In/Out". Anyways thanks for your help.
@leemiles3995
@leemiles3995 10 месяцев назад
I can connect a second transmitter to my tx16s via DSM_RX, however I also only have dsm receiver in my model. Unfortunately, my tx16s has an internal CSRF protocol, so I cannot communicate with the model. Is there any way to receive and transmit via my multi module at the same time?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 10 месяцев назад
Do you cannot. Wireless trainer requires two discreet RF links: Master to Model and Student to Master. If you use MPM to connect student to master, that's it. The MPM is now used and cannot be used for other purposes. You could connect your CRSF transmitter to model and that will work. Alternatively, see this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PEz8WSxYHG4.html
@leemiles3995
@leemiles3995 10 месяцев назад
@@RCVideoReviews Ok, thanks for the help anyway. I was planning on getting some ELRS receivers anyway for some new models, ill just use them to set up the buddy box.
@leemiles3995
@leemiles3995 9 месяцев назад
@@RCVideoReviews Ok, so I have gotten an ELRS reciever, which should be able to bind to my internal module on my tx16s, whilst I use dsm_rx for the buddy box on an external module, however, any time I enable CSRF on the internal module, the master radio loses and gains the student radios signal every second, constantly disconnecting and reconnecting. The buddy box works fine when I am not using the internal module. I am also not bound to the ELRS receiver. Do you know what I am doing wrong?
@JK00JK
@JK00JK 9 месяцев назад
@@leemiles3995 I strongly suspect having the two antennas so close together is causing de-sense in the receiving module, it's the same logic that some planes can't bind if they are too close to the radio. I plan on re-positioning the external antenna with a coax cable. You could also do that with the internal module if you've modded it to have a removable antenna. Just make sure to use the right coax. 2.4GHz over coax can have a lot of loss. I'm going to try it with 3 ft of RG400.
@mabbs2757
@mabbs2757 Год назад
Q : is there anyway you could have the trainer having a switch to control who's flying the model ? As my friend I'm teaching likes to fly with his own transmitter and drone THANK'S ...
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
Sure….make him the master radio.
@mabbs2757
@mabbs2757 Год назад
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks but how do I switch it from master to trainer when I'll be on the trainer transmitter ?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
The master controls who’s flying. You can’t have it both ways.
@davidlorentzen602
@davidlorentzen602 Год назад
That would be so scary giving the student that decision power over who controls the model.
@sodjazero
@sodjazero Год назад
Does the version of edge matter ?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Год назад
The protocol comes from MPM, the Master/Multi option comes from Edge. Not sure when they were introduced to either.
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