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Edward Buchan - A New Jack The Ripper Suspect. With Roger Barber. 

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In this video, I am joined by Roger Barber, author of the new book, "Jack The Ripper:- Dissecting The Truth."
The book is currently available from Lay Books, and, as mentioned in the video, here is a link to it. www.laybooks.c...
Roger has come with a case against Edward Buchan - a suspect who, although he first discovered him 30 years ago, has only now appeared in book form.
Who was he? What is the case against him? What were his connections with Whitechapel? Roger explores all these questions, and many more besides, in this intriguing video.
Along the way, he also looks at other suspects, such as Charles Lechmere, George Hutchinson (who he may well have traced), and Prince Albert Edward Victor.
All in all a fascinating discussion about a largely unknown suspect.

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@jayspinks11
@jayspinks11 3 дня назад
Roger says at the start of the interview that people paint a picture of Jack the ripper as this guy with a big hat and bag and fog, and he wants to get away from that. Yet on the cover of his book its a guy with a big hat bag and fog lol, i digress 😂
@shaunpenne1840
@shaunpenne1840 3 дня назад
I am so tired of seeing that image! Perhaps if they had a painting of the dark Victorian London skyline, with the looming shadow of a man dressed in a cap, tattered tweed jacket, holding a knife and silhouetted against a bright full moon with a skull face above the figure, it would be something different!!
@JasonX2
@JasonX2 2 дня назад
I like the idea of the hat and the fog. A bit of mystery and allure.
@daveyboi8275
@daveyboi8275 2 дня назад
The only reason why they thought that was cause the victims would say he would Wear a top hat, and a black over coat
@daveyboi8275
@daveyboi8275 2 дня назад
The only reason why they thought that was cause the victims would say he would Wear a top hat, and a black over coat. But I believe it was rainy
@22leggedsasquatch
@22leggedsasquatch 2 дня назад
I think that's just to catch the attention
@kencusick6311
@kencusick6311 2 дня назад
I’m 15 mins in and the most common phrase I’ve heard is “he could have…..” This is the problem with almost all books on the Ripper. Someone finds a suspect and then shoehorns what they could have done into what happened. This is the reverse of any good policy investigation. And why we have 200+ suspects.
@Urge38
@Urge38 День назад
A true crime hunter finds a possible lead, then trys to prove their innocence. Only if its impossible to prove them innocent do you have a possible suspect
@ryanwilson368
@ryanwilson368 3 дня назад
Please don’t ever stop posting videos Richard 😊
@robertball2272
@robertball2272 2 дня назад
The whole argument is nonsense. He says that the Ripper was a psychopath/sociopath, but people like that don't commit suicide out of remorse. They don't have feelings like that. The historical record since 1888 contains many serial killers that have been caught and identified, and they are usually men in relationships with women, very often married men with children. He's taking a well debunked armchair psychology view, pretty much the one police in 1888 took (which led to them not apprehending anyone), and trying to use it to argue for yet another completely unlikely "suspect" with no actual link to any of the crimes. Jack the Ripper wasn't outwardly a weirdo, or he would have been easy to catch. He was an ordinary-seeming guy who concealed his murderous nature with 100% success.
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 2 дня назад
Totally agree
@my-mysknitsaloon
@my-mysknitsaloon 2 дня назад
@@robertball2272 Yes, I agree with you.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed, good points!
@1juliach
@1juliach 3 дня назад
A marine store dealer was a dealer in junk. A rag and bone man. It had nothing to do with the sea despite the name. It was quite often a Romany profession. This was interesting but I remain unconvinced.
@PatrickWhelan-sp1th
@PatrickWhelan-sp1th 3 дня назад
The comment about him not mutilating Stride because he turned her over and recognised her just doesn't ring true.The killer would have seen her face in Berner Street not in the near pitch blackness of Outfields Yard
@robertball2272
@robertball2272 2 дня назад
It makes no sense at all. Whoever killed Elizabeth Stride must have spoken to her in order to get her to go into the yard with him. Do you really think she wouldn't have been slightly suspicious of someone speaking to her from behind? That is just absurd. The MO of Jack the Ripper is fairly consistent and it is pretty clear he faced the victim, and also strangled them before using a knife, hence the lack of blood.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed. Both you guys make good points.
@dillionoshea7535
@dillionoshea7535 2 дня назад
@@robertball2272Also It said he was disturbed by Loui with his cart and horse (who reeled as they approached the location of the body). It was also stated by the body temp of the victim (I believe?) she was killed fairly recently and the fact the horse reeled gives the idea they probably just interrupted the Ripper from completing his “work” and the horse reeled from Jack jumping back rather than the horse being frightened by her body. Would a horse be afraid of a dead body? Maybe or potentially 🤷‍♂️. I would think the horse would probably jump back from a quick sudden movement rather than a corpse however
@robertball2272
@robertball2272 8 часов назад
@@dillionoshea7535 Yes, this is why you put blinkers on horse's head harnesses. They get really jumpy with unexpected things in their peripheral vision area.
@Lacey-v4z
@Lacey-v4z 2 дня назад
Would also like to add just as I’m getting further through this video..this guy seems to know his stuff but he also comes across very obnoxious. To say Jack the Ripper couldn’t have had 9 children because he committed those killing due to being unable to have sex etc..how about Fred west? That man had multiple children and was absolutely obsessed with sex from a young age, yet he went on to kill women (his victims reach into the double figures). He also dismembered and mutilated his victims. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@Raistlin222
@Raistlin222 18 часов назад
Gary Ridgeway?? Same.
@shaunpenne1840
@shaunpenne1840 3 дня назад
Roger Barber is suggesting that Lechmere couldn't have been the killer because he had kids! Quite a few serial killers had kids! Ted Bundy and Dennis Rader spring to mind on that subject!
@ryanwilson368
@ryanwilson368 2 дня назад
Yeah that statement held no weight whatsoever
@Lacey-v4z
@Lacey-v4z 2 дня назад
I’ve literally just commented the same thing 😭😭 look at Fred west. He had lots of kids and was absolutely obsessed with sex and was a very sexually active man. Yet he murdered multiple women and mutilated them. Even cutting his own baby from a woman’s womb 😔 this man seems extremely obnoxious and doesn’t really seem to look at actual facts, just the snippets that fit (or actually dont) his theory 🤦🏻‍♀️ such a shame because Richard Jones is such an intelligent and interesting man I couldn’t believe he gave this man airtime on his channel to talk utter crap and basically put down anyone else that has a theory that isn’t the same as his.
@of6594
@of6594 2 дня назад
Joseph deAngelo had kids, John Wayne Gacy had kids
@wattyler2994
@wattyler2994 2 дня назад
Dennis Neilson, Peter Sutcliffe never had kids nor did Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Not sure therefore that argument could sustained.
@chris7685
@chris7685 2 дня назад
Add Rex Heuermann, one daughter, one stepson.
@dropbear7690
@dropbear7690 3 дня назад
Great show Richard, these interviews are my favourite types. Another suspect to consider! Can't wait to read the book and decide to myself if it could be him
@heyokaempath5802
@heyokaempath5802 3 дня назад
I never believed Hutchinson's story. Standing out in the dark in the pouring rain for 45 mins, in the chilly autumn air...no. Not believable to me.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed. And the testimony he gave seemed overly embellished.
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990 2 дня назад
Whats interesting then: why would he lie? We know he was observing Miller's Court entrance. One witness confirmed it.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
I’m just speculating, at this time, there was a reward offered for information leading to the capture of the killer.
@wattyler2994
@wattyler2994 2 дня назад
Yet Abberline who questioned him at length did, or at least was able to rule him out as the Ripper. So did Abberline think what he heard from Hutchinson was credible ? Maybe not as Hutchinson doesn't figure at all in surviving police records.
@wattyler2994
@wattyler2994 2 дня назад
​@@davesmith7432it was unusually for a Ripper "witness" and perhaps the investigation on the ground led by Abberline was aware of this.
@my-mysknitsaloon
@my-mysknitsaloon 3 дня назад
Sorry I don't agree with Robert Barber that Jack The Ripper could'nt have been in a relationship or have children. Here in Sweden between 1998 - 2005 in Umeå we had a rapist Niklas Lindgren, who left his wife in the hospital while she was giving birth and went to the nearby University and raped a women. He was convicted for raping 5 women and 1 child. The last victim ,he was trying to kill under a bridge. She ran out on the ice of the river trying to escape. He bite off a part of her ear and trying to strangle her. Niklas Lindgren has 2 or 3 children.But I wanna read Robert B book anyhow Thanks Richard for a good interview.❤
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990 2 дня назад
It kinda depends on the type of the killer. Some of them we can assume are perfectly capable of having wife, kids and normal family life. Ripper is assumed to be disorganized offender which means: he is more lucky than intelligent, he is impulsive, possibly insane, a loner, not very sociable. Still it does not have to mean he is not married. Especially when we are considering different culture back then. There was a killer in Poland very similar to Ed Gein and Ripper. He was married I think but he also fitted the profile of disorganized killer.
@Raistlin222
@Raistlin222 18 часов назад
​@mariuszstanisawczyk8990 I can see why most consider Jack random or disorganized. But when he killed Annie Chapman, he took all the items out of her pockets and arranged them neatly at her feet. I believe he thought of himself as an artist. Leaving the women on display, his postmortem mutilations were increasingly progressive when he had time. He deprived them of their dignity, their feminine power, he mutilated their faces, and destroyed their beauty in death. If you look at Gary Ridgeway, he saw prostitutes as vermin, and in his mind, he was doing society a favor by eliminating them. Jack took exceptional risks, but to him they might have been rationalized by careful planning. Ridgeway frequented prostitutes and they didn't suspect him because he was a repeat customer. If you're a regular John, avoiding the police is second nature. No one would suspect a repeat customer that had never shown a violent side. Ridgeway had a wife and kids, Jack could have easily had a family n appeared perfectly normal.
@leejames1792
@leejames1792 2 дня назад
Poor choice for a title of a book about Jack, trying to be clever with a play on words but its bad taste. Edit, "he had access to knives" its 1888 ffs, i'm sure everyone as they do today had access to a knife, sorry lost me 10min in.
@sumahama1981
@sumahama1981 3 дня назад
Best channel on RU-vid! 🎩
@philliposborn808
@philliposborn808 3 дня назад
Nice to have new name on the list. That was a very interesting discussion you had with Roger. It certainly made for intriguing listening. Thank you Richard, your channel is one of the best i have been to. Cheers.✅
@cbamr
@cbamr 3 дня назад
Nice theory to add to the list. Great interview, Richard. You’re always well balanced and open minded
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 10 часов назад
It is speculation
@BenLujan-r5q
@BenLujan-r5q 3 дня назад
Thanks for the video on new suspect, Mr. Jones!
@Uapa500
@Uapa500 День назад
I love the positive approach, everyone brings something new, without having the pretence is the only truth and even if people don't agree that keeps the conversation going.
@Samael-Metzger
@Samael-Metzger 3 дня назад
I always enjoy learning of new theories and suspects, Thank you Richard!
@ryanra44
@ryanra44 День назад
Always interesting to hear a new suspect. Appreciate your research and your openness. I still think Lechmere is still at the top of the list, but your suspect is definitely interesting.
@tonysmith3556
@tonysmith3556 3 дня назад
Brilliant film as always. Serial killers look like the bloke next door which is true as my neighbour was Ted Bundy.
@AlexaLake7
@AlexaLake7 День назад
A new suspect for me to consider. Thank you for this video, Mr. Jones.
@markallen7924
@markallen7924 2 дня назад
Quite a coincidence thar Stephen Pemberton's character in Whitechapel is called Edward Buchan.
@avondalemama470
@avondalemama470 2 дня назад
Very interesting theory. Hopefully, one day, we will find something definitive. 😊😊😊
@dermotkelly6946
@dermotkelly6946 2 дня назад
Thank you Richard, will watch tonight 👍
@PCHolmes
@PCHolmes 3 дня назад
it's a good sign when the suspects list is shrinking... you do the math. "We'll never know who he was" yet keep spawning books and videos?!
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 3 дня назад
Thank you Mr. Jones and Mr. Barber for an interesting discussion and some very good points. I truly appreciate Mr. Barber’s humble stance. It’s refreshing to see. If I may be so bold to suggest a complement to Mr. Barber’s line of thoughts, I think you’ll find this video quite interesting. Steven Keogh was a Scotland Yard homicide detective and he’s using his unique skill set to investigate the case from the sheer facts, unbiased. He is also assisted by one of the three British profilers that work with the Yard. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WIGVkcvxwyI.htmlsi=2Vg2ozyGockLnA26
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 День назад
So Roger is coming from a psychological point of view. He says sociopaths “can’t have relationships with women”. I disagree. Sociopaths have a difficult time having relationships with anyone. Now Ed Buchan killed himself. That’s a problem with this killer’s psychology profile. He was undoubtedly a psychopath. And psychopaths very rarely kill themselves. He mentioned Charles Lechmere went by Cross at Pickfords. I’d like to see the evidence for that. And he used his long dead stepfathers name to get a job at Pickfords because his step father was a PC. So being a son of a PC gets you a job as a carman? Ok. There was evidence of Lechmere hiding his name Roger. At the day he was at the inquest, there were 10-12 newspapers represented. And some of them got his name completely wrong. “George Cross”. And only 1 paper actually got his address. So it’s logical to suggest he was hiding his name. Even when he didn’t have to. Lechmere fathered 12 kids. 2 of them were named Charles Allen Lechmere. So that name was very important to him. To suggest because he was a family man he couldn’t have been the killer is short sighted. There are many examples of serial killers that lead double lives. The most successful ones are the best at it. Pretending to be something they are not. Blending in. Lying to and manipulating people throughout their lives to get what they want. Sorry about your timing. I agree it could have been off a bit. But PC Neil testified he was in Bucks Row around 3:15 and Polly wasn’t there. There was a clock on brewery visible from the entrance to Bucks Row. Paul may have seen it. He probably had a good idea what time it was. He walked down that path to find Lechmere already there standing where the woman was. Here dress already covering the abdominal wounds! Why? Why did this infamous display killer hide his work. When no one was there to catch him? There was no blood to be found. They saw the jolly bonnet on the ground so it wasn’t that dark. Lechmere goes on to lie to PC Misen about what he left back in Bucks Row. The PCs timeline was a little off of Paul’s. But close. Dr Llewellyn’s estimate TOD was close too. About a half hour. That would put it around 3:30-3:45. Bottom line…Lechmere should be at least Person of Interest #1 in the murder of Polly. So how can his timeline be trustworthy when we now know he was a liar? Especially since no one can verify it. How long was he alone with the just murdered body of Polly?
@jack_knife-1478
@jack_knife-1478 3 дня назад
Jack will never be identified! He will stay in the shadows for all time.
@EvanDavies-p5b
@EvanDavies-p5b 2 дня назад
Unless some very unexpected evidence emerges.
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990 2 дня назад
even that is unknown
@jamessones4044
@jamessones4044 День назад
Royal connection
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 10 часов назад
@@jamessones4044 Dont be so ignorant
@ryanwilson368
@ryanwilson368 2 дня назад
To laugh at the thought of Charles lechmere after putting such a weak case forward with no evidence is laughable
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 2 дня назад
Yes. Embarrassing
@patavinity1262
@patavinity1262 2 дня назад
Possibly, but then the evidence against Charles Lechmere is also weak. The evidence against all of the popular suspects is weak.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed. He’s another guy writing a book. Not solving a mystery.
@ryanwilson368
@ryanwilson368 2 дня назад
If you close your eyes it’s piers Morgan talking!
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed, 😂
@alisonparker5736
@alisonparker5736 2 дня назад
Alas this person's pompous delivery detracted from his argument.
@ohmy4275
@ohmy4275 3 дня назад
Not discrediting Lechmere or anyone else for that matter but more people need to bettee understand what evidence and burden of proof means in legal terms. No suspect ever has to prove their innocence. This is not a witch trial. We need to prove that someone is guilty and we need evidence. Evidence. Not opinions and "common sense".
@patavinity1262
@patavinity1262 2 дня назад
Well no, we don't. None of these people will ever be brought to trial, so such considerations are entirely irrelevant.
@garethcollocott6310
@garethcollocott6310 2 дня назад
Yeah that is great, we do not have anything close to solid evidence against suspect, let alone that more than half the evidence has been destroyed. People can only make cases against, as best they can at this stage. We will never know who JTR was, best we can do is assertain, if you looking for guilt by todays standards, you may as well forget about JTR unless it is out of interest. People who enjoy JTR simply enjoy piecing a mystery together. I am pretty sure most people know todays standards of guilt in legal terms, but we will never find it.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
I agree. These days we need more than 1 form of evidence to prove guilt. But it’s highly unlikely we’ll get it. So the best we got is likelihood based the facts and what we know of criminal psychology.
@ohmy4275
@ohmy4275 2 дня назад
Saying that Lechmere or Levy or Kosminski is guilty without evidence is very relevant. We still need to prove guilt otherwise we just believe our fantasies completely detached from reality ​@@patavinity1262
@MatthewApsey
@MatthewApsey День назад
You cannot read Cutting Point without concluding that the evidence against Lechmere is decisive proof that he was both Jack and the Thames Torso fiend.
@markc3258
@markc3258 2 дня назад
Some very interesting and valid points., Good listen
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 10 часов назад
Valid hmm most could be applied to almost anyone
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn 2 дня назад
Great discussion! Much tasty food for thought! :)
@ianbrailsford5843
@ianbrailsford5843 3 дня назад
Not to denigrate the Charles Cross/Lechmere proponents but I've always wondered why his giving an alternative name is suspicious when he actually gave his correct address. Wouldn't exactly obscure his identity very much at all.
@nickbell4984
@nickbell4984 3 дня назад
It's to do with secrecy in the papers. The tabloids would name witnesses and suspects, but they wouldn't be able to say where they actually lived. It's not so much about his own secrecy but more to do with his name being posted everywhere in the papers because of how accusatory they are. The tabloids don't care about victims, witnesses or anyone, they just want to sell papers.
@tonysmith3556
@tonysmith3556 3 дня назад
Lechmere told a crafty half truth. He gave his name firstly at the inquest and knew, having thought on it, that although he was compelled to come forward to police he wanted his family not to recognise him as it is they.who could destroy his timing's.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 дня назад
Indeed... and especially when the alternative name he gave was one he once would have used, and by which he was likely known at work. Of course he not only freely gave the authorities his address, but also his job and his employer!
@tonysmith3556
@tonysmith3556 3 дня назад
I assume that he did not think they would publish the exact address of a witness in the newspapers and I also assume his family read the papers.
@ohmy4275
@ohmy4275 2 дня назад
@@ianbrailsford5843 he wasn't the only one using a different name. Eddows said her name was Mary Jane the night of her murder if I'm not mistaken. Aliases were used in 1888 way more than now. If you give a false now you're immediately a suspect. Back then no one really knew your real name
@22leggedsasquatch
@22leggedsasquatch 2 дня назад
One must be very careful of making assumptions and then considering them as facts. Lechmere having 9 children doesn't thus count him out. It's a double identity, as recorded with other serial killers, where their families were clueless. Can we also not lose sight that these were poor, poor victims..as that high resolution of Mary Kelly sickenly reminds us.. and not some game of Cluedo. 'Colonel Mustard in the kitchen with the candelabra haw haw'..
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990
@mariuszstanisawczyk8990 2 дня назад
Interesting thing is that suicide at exact time of Mary Kelly funeral. But other than that I think that we're gonna find many people which are fitting the profile in Whitechapel area let alone in other (like Poplar) areas. Thats what a profile is: its just telling us what kind of person Ripper would be. But we can find many people which would be, superficially or even deeply, like Ripper - with one difference: none of them would be the killer. So the profile is just a tool which can be used in combination with solid evidence. Even the profile itself is a speculation based on the similar subjects. It doesn't have to mean that the Ripper was very much different.
@of6594
@of6594 2 дня назад
Roger laughs off the arguments for Lechmere being the killer but is there any other mentioned suspect that with 100% certainty can be linked to any murder scene? The case against against Lechmere is strong: the "bleeding argument", Dr Llwellyns statements, the circumstances that Robert Paul never saw, and more importantly never heard him walking in front of of him in Bucks Row or anywhere else, the statements by P.C. Meisens, the fact he didn't "turn up" until Robert Paul's statements in the paper.
@craigdesilva
@craigdesilva 2 дня назад
Curious Richard, how long is the voting list so far?
@JackTheRipperTours
@JackTheRipperTours 2 дня назад
It's about 33 suspects, Craig.
@simonorton
@simonorton 2 дня назад
Do you have that link please ? Thanks 😊​@@JackTheRipperTours
@ChandlerRuss
@ChandlerRuss 2 дня назад
What was the particular video looking at the hand writing that was mentioned?
@charliemahoney2388
@charliemahoney2388 День назад
I think he's made a brilliant case, here. It wouldn't remotely surprise me if Buchan was indded the culprit.
@Lacey-v4z
@Lacey-v4z 2 дня назад
Sorry to go off topic here but I couldn’t help but notice that in the itv series “Whitechapel” that aired in around 2008 I think, one of the main characters is called Edward buchan. He is a ripperologist. He’s also suspected of being the ripper in series 1. Just found it a bit odd and wondered whether whoever wrote or researched for that series had made a connection of some sort 🤷🏻‍♀️ just seems coincidental
@davidphilp4453
@davidphilp4453 2 дня назад
The idea that Jack didn't mutilated Elizabeth Stride because he recognize her never came to mind, there for by the time Diemschutz came on the scene Jack may have already gone. He may not had been behind the gate-door when Diemschutz firstly Discovered Stride's body.
@oldskoolpaul77
@oldskoolpaul77 3 дня назад
Great video! What a fresh insight. Thanks for the new information
@georginanov1
@georginanov1 День назад
The suspect is very interesting, however strong homicidal behaviour does not manifest suddenly, there has to be a pattern that goes into the past. That he killed himself on his birthday doesn’t mean much to me. I want to know what his past was and what was odd about the behaviour he exhibited the last few months before his suicide. Otherwise, we would be able to suspect any person that died after Mary Jane Kelly’s murder as a probable suspect, just as strong as this one …
@22leggedsasquatch
@22leggedsasquatch 2 дня назад
It's a legitimate case made. Though It's hard to look past Lechmere and Tumblety. I could also see that these 5 murders may well have been committed by more than one killer, but being assigned to one perpetrator, of which the individual known as Jack the Ripper was just one of them and responsible for 3 of the 5
@filmbuff2777
@filmbuff2777 3 дня назад
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I made a note of this book to check out.
@elizabethabraybant7282
@elizabethabraybant7282 2 дня назад
Interesting talk!
@garethcollocott6310
@garethcollocott6310 2 дня назад
Interresting. Will look into it. Just one thing, with Charles Lechmere, no one is changing times to fit anything! Even today, the time of death is not accurate at all, it is at best a gestiimation, like or not Lechmere has alot going for him. He does have some things going against him as well make no mistake but he is a solid viable suspect, even beyond the canonical 5 it even thickens.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
I agree with most of what you’re saying, asides from medical expertise. Why would they call a doctor to examine a woman lying on the ground dead if the doctor had no idea what he was talking about? Why would he be summoned out of bed at 4am if he didn’t know what he was talking about? Sure it wasn’t down to the minute, but there were useful clues that could’ve narrowed down the time. Such as the bodies core temp or if the onset of rigor mortis has occurred. And then there’s the blood evidence. A woman with nearly decapitated and only a small puddle of blood oozing out when Neil arrived. Unlike Turner, whose body was cold with the landing covered in blood, it shows she died recently. Not to mention it correlates with PC Neil’s testimony that he passed the murder site at 3:15. He must have been close.
@nicholas4804
@nicholas4804 5 часов назад
He consulted a graphologist for a personality profile? 😂
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 2 дня назад
Roger. We don't know what time lechmere left home and also Nichols wasn't killed at 3.15 looking at the evidence of blood flow.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Somebody should probably tell Roger that PC Neil testified he was at Bucks Row around 3:15.
@normandavidtidiman9918
@normandavidtidiman9918 19 часов назад
So the author says there aren't many facts in the case (there are many more than he seems to think),but then goes on to SPECULATE that his suspect saw Liz Stride in her coffee shop(?) and recognised her during her murder causing him to flee! Utter rubbish!
@nhelks
@nhelks 2 дня назад
Some fascinating points here, but I would just point out the disservice done by bringing graphology into the talk. If you have to use pseudoscience to prove a point, it doesn’t really bolster your case.
@jamessones4044
@jamessones4044 День назад
A royal / vip link is highly likely.
@tonylinsell8918
@tonylinsell8918 День назад
Interesting Richard,least a different name in the frame,as to how viable Buchan is as a suspect ? don’t know lol,some of Roger’s thinking makes sense,I also doubt the police at the time or following years had much idea who he was and I’m sure that seriously irked them!
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 2 дня назад
No evidence to say he used Cross at Pickfords
@LucasLucas-ne4xs
@LucasLucas-ne4xs 2 дня назад
There certainly is : the 1876 inquest into the accidental death of a young boy, where he was called as a witness and named himself Charles Cross, just like he did in 1888. That's every inquest we know he ever attended as a witness, he used the same name. It's not 100% proof because we don't have Pickfords registers or his contract of employment, but there most certainly is strong evidence he was known as Cross at Pickfords.
@rogerabarber175
@rogerabarber175 2 дня назад
Yes there is. Charles Cross, a carman ar Pickfords ran over a young boy. Richard has posted a video on RU-vid on the incident.
@jimbeam67
@jimbeam67 День назад
Always interesting to listen to as many different theories as possible, regardless of if they are credible or not. So please keep them coming Richard! For this suspect: I think it is a very incovincing story. Only assumptions and cherry picking from evidence. It is not clear to me at all why this guy should be a suspect. Because he killed himself on the day of the Kelly funeral? Because he is a parttime shoemaker and therefore has a knife (I think the majority of people in that area had a knife at the time!)? Or because he had access to sailor outfits? And a witness said to have seen such an outfit, also a witness saw a 30 year old man and his suspect was 29. Cherry picking from witnesses, while earlier he stated witnesses are unrelieable. Seems to me Roger sees Lechmere as a threat to his suspect too as he tries to laugh off the Lechmere theory a bit too easily on a few occasions. So no: I don't think this is the solution. Nevertheless interesting to listen to the theory!
@brixferera8938
@brixferera8938 3 дня назад
That did not start out right....but still an interesting topic.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 дня назад
Fascinating, but I think Roger's mistaken about Hutchinson's identity. Is there any evidence that the Durham Hutchinson was based in London in 1888, when in both 1881 and 1891 censuses he was based far away in Northeast England? Did his signature match those on the police witness statement of "the" George Hutchinson? I know someone whose signature _did_ match, and he wasn't from the Northeast that's for sure :)
@huzzism
@huzzism 3 дня назад
Will this be available as an e-book?
@heyokaempath5802
@heyokaempath5802 3 дня назад
I thought the soubriquet of JTR was birthed by journalist Tom Bullen/ing.
@BRI-25040
@BRI-25040 3 дня назад
Question:The juwes are the MEN plural ?
@22leggedsasquatch
@22leggedsasquatch 2 дня назад
I'm surprised that he rubbishes the timing of Lechmere's way to work. This is very clearly solidified by Paul and the police. Paul being the most important witness. The condition of Nichols' corpse leaving Lechmere as her killer, or, him having disturbed the Ripper within the 5 minutes before he found her. Lechmere lied about the time he left home in order to leave him with just a few minutes with the corpse.. whereas leaving home earlier, would have given him ample time to meet, talk and kill prior to Paul turning up. Either way; it's either the box-checking Lechmere or not. Just how many vicerating, homocidal, sociopaths could possibly be in the area!?
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed. Good points
@LucasLucas-ne4xs
@LucasLucas-ne4xs 2 дня назад
But that is just the point. Paul is the most important witness for the Lechmerians because he 'creates' a time-gap by stating he entered Bucks Row at 3:45 precisely (and just ignoring Cross gave his time of departure "at around" 3:30). But Pauls time is contradicted by the Police. All 3 of them. Neil states he was with the body at 3:45. Thain confirms he was alerted by Neil around 3:45 and Mizen states he spoke with Cross and Paul at 3:45 several minutes after the carmen had already left the body. So unless all 3 policemen (from 2 different divisions) were making things up or conspiring for some reason Pauls time of 3:45 can't be accurate. The state of Nichols body says nothing about the identity of her killer other than that he was a sociophatic coward and vicious killer, and I think everybody agrees there probably was only 1 in the area, only after almost 140 years we still don't know who he was and probably never will.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
@@LucasLucas-ne4xs I disagree. Paul probably had a good idea what time it was when he left his home as he did the same thing everyday. There was a large clock on the brewers building, visible from the entrance to Bucks Row. So he was close. Not exact but close. The 3 PCs likely met up at Nichols body and got their story straight. Not all of the things you mentioned could been at the same time. But it could have happened in a short approximate time. Once Neil flashes Thain, he’s no longer worried about keeping track of time. So they pieced it together afterward. However, Lechmere lied to Misen and later lied about his identity. So why do you think he’s telling the truth about his timeline? Why is this trustworthy when a liar claimed it and no one can corroborate it? On Paul’s path they should have been aware of each other at some point before entering Bucks Row. But Paul didn’t see him until he was only 40 yards from him, standing where the woman was. So someone’s timeline was false. Polly’s dress was pulled down concealing the wounds before Paul got there. He didn’t know she was dead. Why would this notorious display killer leave his work covered if no one was there to catch him? Polly hadn’t started bleeding. Why? Because she just died!
@LucasLucas-ne4xs
@LucasLucas-ne4xs День назад
@@davesmith7432 I agree if Cross was the killer (big IF) he lied about the time he left home. He would need a lot longer to find Polly on Whitechapel Road, chat her up, follow her to Bucks Row and kill her. So why jump through hoops and try to create a time-gap based on his own timing and use the problematic statement of Robert Paul that contradicts everyone elses? Intresting you say Pauls time is correct because there was a brewers clock, but Paul never mentioned the clock (other witnesses did in similar situations), we have no idea if the clock was working and it's time was correct, and why does this clock not apply to Thain who entered Bucks Row the exact same way ? Yet Thain clearly stated he was signaled over by Neil around 3:45 who by then was already with the body. Your accusation that the 3 PCs met up at Pollys body and got their story straight is no small feat : not only do you accuse them of sabotaging a murder investigation from the start but also committing perjury during the inquest. Btw Why did they do that ? It's nonsens ofc : Thain was already sent to dr. LLewellyn when Mizen arrived and he himself was immediately ordered to go fetch an ambulance, but it is very obvious anyway Mizen never confered with his collegues from an other division : Neil never knew about the carmen Mizen spoke to at 3:45. He made a fool of himself (and the whole Police force) by claiming he was the one who found the body during the first inquest the next day. How could Neil not know about the carmen if as you claim they got their story straight over Nichols fresh body ? The answer is simple : they never did : 3.45 is the time 2 PCs were with the body and the time Mizen was talking to the carmen. Paul is wrong. Most likely he is not deliberately lying, he just got the wrong time and in fact wasn't running as late as he thought he was. It's always amusing to see how Lechmerians cherry pick the elements that supports their theory but ignore the facts that contradict them (or even worse : invent the most outlandish stories to undermine them) What Cross said is true when it fits the narrative : when he left home, that he didn't want to touch the body, that he saw or heard nobody in Buck Row. But of course he is a liar when he contradicts the gospel. The Mizen scam never happened, he didn't lie about his identity, the carmen (both moving) where just far enough apart to not see or hear eachother (pretty obvious when you look at the map) and the whole Pully was covered up by Cross and wasn't even bleeding is fantasy. Of course that's only my opinion.
@robertball2272
@robertball2272 8 часов назад
@@LucasLucas-ne4xs If you (reasonably) assume that the times given by all parties is, in reality 3:45am +/- 4 minutes, then there is no problem. They are all correct in that case. All these things happened 'around' 3:45am.
@Skiptickle
@Skiptickle 3 дня назад
I enjoy hearing ideas about JTR that people have put some thought into. I'm so tired of hearing that Charles Lechmere was the killer simply because he was the first one to discover one of the victims.
@distortionhead37
@distortionhead37 3 дня назад
If you've heard that that's the only reason people suspect him you then haven't heard enough. There's plenty more than that.
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Your comment demonstrates your lack of knowledge on Lechmere. I recommend checking out Richard’s video on it with guest Ed Stow. Also, he did a contrary video with Steve Blomer. Both well worth watching!
@of6594
@of6594 День назад
There is a lot more to Lechmere being the killer than him "discovering" the body: the "bleeding argument", Dr Llewellyn's statements, the fact that Robert Paul never saw, and more importantly never heard his footsteps when walking on the empty Bucks Row or anywhere we else, P.C. Meisens statements on what Lechmere had said to him, the fact that he didn't "turn up" until after the newspaper interview with R. Paul.
@asumner1959
@asumner1959 3 дня назад
Interesting. Thank you Richard!
@Urge38
@Urge38 День назад
Absolutely not. Jack the ripper could not have possibly lived among family, friends or loved ones. How could you explain coming home 5 times at different times off the night and every time, covered in blood
@BrendonChase2012
@BrendonChase2012 День назад
Was he covered in blood?
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 2 дня назад
Roger is NOT being objective
@kevinkenny6975
@kevinkenny6975 2 дня назад
Utter drivel
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Agreed. Lol
@MatthewApsey
@MatthewApsey День назад
Still Lechmere, no doubt at all.
@theobjectivethinker64
@theobjectivethinker64 3 дня назад
Body parts industry possibly.
@Lot_2023
@Lot_2023 День назад
No one will ever convince me..........that the police higher ups, didn't know the killers identity.
@BennyGoodmanGoodman
@BennyGoodmanGoodman 3 дня назад
i still think Hutchinson did it . and now in going to research 51 or was 51 written fifty one ?
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
I look forward to reading about or watching the video on the evidence you find.
@dolphindan59
@dolphindan59 2 дня назад
Really shallow theory...Druitt is by far more intriguing and has more evidence against him
@rogerabarber175
@rogerabarber175 2 дня назад
Where is the evidence against Druitt?
@davesmith7432
@davesmith7432 2 дня назад
Just like the guy Roger is presenting, it’s highly unlikely Druitt was the killer. This is basic knowledge of criminal psychology. Serial killers are always psychopaths. Psychopaths don’t commit suicide.
@rogerabarber175
@rogerabarber175 2 дня назад
What evidence?
@RobertBurke-tq9zu
@RobertBurke-tq9zu 2 дня назад
​@@davesmith7432Israel Keyes and Fred West both committed suicide.
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