Former defense contractor and activist Snowden and cognitive scientist Goertzel discuss the surveillance implications of recent advancements in AI at Consensus 2023.
I came here to make the same comment. I cannot believe they cut both of them off. They literally have two of the most important people to talk to on the subject and it's just like oops sorry no time. SMH
I agree that we need to hear more from these two very smart socially conscious computer scientists. This was perhaps the best discussion I've heard on AI and what it really means for us. Thanks and let's hear more, our lives could very well send on it. I hope all charges against Ed Snowden are dropped and that he can live in the United States and speak freely when he wants too.
He’s a traitor who works for the bigger criminal Putin. He holds America accountable for crimes and helps Putin do much worse. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
yes very true they fear him because he's real, tune to himself and his God and he's going to do the right thing no matter the consequences and he's smart enough to do it....that is very powerful
Time constraints or not I really hate when people get cut off in the manner that they just did to Snowden. This was my first experience with this channel and will most likely be my last. For those that can't see the dislikes 👎.
"The further a society moves away from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." (George Orwell) The unforgettable John Lennon had prophesied it to us well over 40 years ago, "Our society is being run by insane people for insane purposes. I believe we are governed by madmen for mad purposes and I believe I must expect to be imprisoned as mad for expressing this. That's what's crazy about it." (John Lennon / 9.10.1940 - 8.12.1980) "Still you sit up there, you cowardly figures. Paid by the enemy, but a mockery to the people! But one day justice will prevail again. Then the people will judge, then God have mercy on you ! (Theodore Koerner) "Weapon and defense you. . . . powerful are the thoughts, rightly used." "Through iron times you will go, through cruel, hard, without sunny nature. It must not frighten you. For harder are ye. Through hollow emptiness you will go, through hours of seemingly lost meaning. It must not paralyze you. For you are full of meaning. Through raging storms you will go; everything, it seems, they tear away. It must not make you complain and tremble. For you are rich, yet within. Through the suffering of disappointment you will go, prepared by humanity. It must not bend you. For truly you are. Through manifold tribulations you will still go, and yet always prevail. For you are hope. And rightly trusting hope attracts my and the gods' powers. Therefore, remember this: Hope is strong at all times. Nothing then can conquer you. (Isaiah)
Yeah, I didn't understand what that guy was talking about out. He seemed to disrespectfully "cut him off." I would like to see videos from Edward Snowden himself maybe from the last year. Or maybe of an interview with an objective POV and line of reasoning. I don't really vibe with these "talks" with "experts" who I don't know and because of personal reasons don't care to get to know right now.
though I agree with you all, in that he's quite articulate, the fact is he was asking for one more second, he needed one more second, cuz he had one more thing to say, the commentator relented because it's Edward Snowden and finally said "okay one sentence" meaning, fine, we're out of time but go... the premise that he was placed in pinch, is not correct, likely he had memorized what he wanted to close with, the lasting impression was either really important to him or Putin told him to say it, regardless signs of a very intelligent person, and again, I agree "he hit the pitch out of the park." with his message (and damn I hate it when people say that was AI created. cuz I don't like to be fooled. and never thought it was when I watched it, but I don't really know.)
Not born human? Kinda like a transgender claiming not being born with the proper gender, just one assigned temporarily? It was obviously a rehearsed pro-transhumanist (read: anti-human) statement which he needed to impart to normalize the agenda. This only further confirms what I suspected all along, he’s an ‘anti-Establishment’ trojan horse set up by the Establishment, portrayed as a whistle-blower when all he did was serve as the deep state’s mouthpiece to let public know they already live in an Orwellian dictatorship with his limited hangout disclosures (things are light years beyond what he discusses). And yes I know I’m typing to a bunch of bots.
@@TVU-fl4rywell seeing as he was forced by the U.S. to seek asylum in Russia. I don't see the point whatsoever to speak about the country that took you in. Over the country that was paying you to compile all of the data from the spy program your government was doing to spy on every single citizen in the United States. That you wistleblew on. Would be of any utility.
@@TVU-fl4ry He literally wants to go back, but cannot. funny thing is it's not because of russia but because of USA, look it up - it's worth the effort
Mr. Snowden I named my dog(best dog ever btw) in honor of you and your conscience. as it turns out it's a great conversation to have with someone who doesn't know your story or those that need a refresher memberberries.
It's apparent to me that a major part of us already are fully enslaved, while it's only a matter of the complete rollout accelerated until Point-of-No-Return has arrived - every last illusion shattered. I wonder what percentage of us remains in that willfully ignorant group so comfortable currently, counting on having paid their dues and member fees. To be rudely awakened with boot on neck with no reservations to run to and no boats to float their fate as refugees in.
they will need to fully integrate INSIDE a human being to truly work symbiotic with us. All laid out, tv show, the 100. Ali 1.0 and Ali 2.0. Opens the door for immortality through consciousness data transfer. We can all exist in a city of light, created by the AI, just gotta take the chip.
I had to google him to know he's a scientist. His comments felt to me as by someone who really enjoys talking about AI and has a surface level grasp of the topic.
I can't help thinking Edward is on a different level of thinking compared to Ben's. Edward's understanding of reality and consequence of AI is so much more credible than Ben's childlike outlook of it.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 You must be completely blind...He's a Russian spy who revealed American classified information, put American lives in danger and lives in Russia under heavy protection yet people are so dumb they applaud this clown and traitor. He's a complete disgrace whose first port of call after betraying his own country was it's mortal enemy,
I give Snowden credit for providing a cogent view of AI potential scenarios, but trying to regulate any of this is like trying to hold water in a fishnet. Evolution tends to favor the most adaptive . . . we are approaching that coevolutionary event horizon.
Edward Snowden: "We need to move away from this." We need to heed Edward's advice and stop the growth of AI on a global scale💯🤷Everything was better in the 90's when we didn't know as much😽
🙌 👏 🙏 🤝 👍 Some day - for sure - he will be in a leading position ! ! ! One he utterly deserves . . . so many intelligent folks banned on "islands" (aka exile -> see SENECA) . . .
It doesn't sound very human of him to claim we are not born human (of course we are), and that AI will be better than humans. That sounds like the opposite of humanist = anti-human.
Ben's take on other large data models (for instance evolution) being passed over as the large language models are popularized is interesting... He quoted the sci fi writer David Brin too, which shows how far we've come, that yesterday's science fiction is today's reality....yes. And Edward's statement, "if they won't regulate guns, they won't regulate AI"...also probably true (sigh). Once again, the power will accrue to those that can shovel money the fastest....
The bigger irony is money and debt has killed many more people than guns have. Guns don’t starve people, sanctioning their ability to live without sustenance is a slower more painful death as well. The problem is the central banks
That's unfortunately irrelevant. Dangerous for you to focus on. Sociopathic people are by definition as you describe. That's not what makes them an existential threat to the rest of us! All Cluster B types should be your homework for this year, to get good at profiling in short order, what indications to read and how to subvert their ZERO SUM GAME. They will not, true to their type, change in any aspect, nor allow you your own existence.
You have Goertzel and Snowden on a panel with a hard limit of 30 minutes? I dont know anything about what other presentations were at this convention but they had better have been stellar. Otherwise that's just a bone headed time limit.
Mister Edward snowdan is a great hero but, you all don't know wat he is going through we are supporting Edward snowdan as he is our hero may God deliver him in Jesus name amen
The problem with all of these arguments is that no AI system, decentralised or otherwise, currently has any mechanism by which it can be controlled - this means that, as of today (2023), there is no way - none - to ensure safety. The concerns might be 'surmountable', but the problem is that if we get control wrong just once with a superintelligence, you may not get a second chance.
absolutely agree, look what dumb social media algorithms have done to society, polarised and radicalised it, there was never so much hate and negativity in the world
28:13 Saying someone is being unrealistic is the same as saying you know the future, and nobody knows the future. In the face of such continuous and escalating uncertainty, erring on the side of caution is necessary. (Remember, even AI first taking creative iobs from humans was a surprise! Nobody predicted that!)
Some people are able to infer the eventual patterns leading to the most salient specific situations & conditions. Not certain what events & which timing - but generally the outline of phases and probable enactments...given who we are and have been. I've been one of these people most my life. I only get more skilled/instinctive and keep finding I wasn't wrong. I'm still waiting...it gets spookier the longer it goes on this way. Maybe people would be well-off to take notice of human capacities like this, among others. You should also kill your ego so as to recognise when the role best for you is that of LISTENER.
@@lapx1 True dat. In fact, industrialization and technology haven't taken anyone's job ever, it was always other humans deciding to use tools instead of using other humans. Almost sounds nice that way.
REMEMBER THAT MOVIE “COLOSSUS”, QUITE A FEW YEARS BACK, WHERE THE US AND RUSSIAN COMPUTERS CREATED THERE OWN LANGUAGE, ALL THERE OWN, BY WAY OF MATH - THE COMPUTERS TURNED THE NUCLEAR WAR HEADS IN ON THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED THEM AND TOLD THE COUNTRIES IN ESSENCE, “DO WHAT WE TELL YOU OR WE’LL KILL ALL OF YOU” THE COMPUTERS DID THIS FOR THE OVERALL GOOD OF “MAN KIND” A REALLY WAY OUT THERE MOVIE, AT THE TIME - WHEN I SAW THAT MOVIE I KNEW, THIS DAY WOULD COME - I DON’T SEE WHAT ALL THE FEAR AND HOOPLA IS ALL ABOUT - THINK IT THRU FOLKS - WERE ALL ON A ONE WAY STREET, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF WE DIE ONE AT A TIME OR ALL AT ONE TIME - I FOR ONE DO NOT BELIEVE WE WILL BE WIPED OUT - THERE IS A REASON WE EXIST - WHATS THE REASON, I DON’T KNOW AND NO ONE ELSE DOES - I CAN GUESS WHY - NOW, WE MIGHT BE CULLED - INTERESTING TIMES WE LIVE IN - IF WE ARE ‘BIO MORFIC’ ANDROIDS, LIKE SOME SUGGEST, THEY MAY HAVE A GOOD POINT, WE EVEN HAVE A SOUND TRACK - THE RADIO - (FUNNY) - I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE ORGANIZED RELIGION - ORGANIZED RELIGION WORSHIPS SEGREGATED gods - I SAW ON THE INTERNET, A LONG TIME AGO, THERE ARE ABOUT 4,700 - ORGANIZED RELIGIONS IN EXISTENCE - WE WOULD NOT INSULT A SQUIRREL OR A LION WITH THE HORSE ISHT YET WE SWALLOW IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER - (JUST FOR THE RECORD, I’M NOT AN ATHEIST - I SEE MYSELF AS A SPIRITUALIST/A NATURALIST) -
"If they aren't regulating guns they aren't going to regulate AI." I think Snowdon fails to understand that there is no constitutional right to AI. FFS, they will regulate people's bodies before they regulate guns.
There certainly is a constitutional amendment. It’s called the first amendment. Code is speech according to Supreme Court case law and thus regulating speech is unconstitutional
Then, like with the Abortion debate, the gun debate is merely an orchestrated dance between the two parties ad nauseum, to maintain a mutually agreed-upon equilibrium. Two heads of the same dragon.
One of the weird aspects of AI is that it puts real evidence of corruption under suspicion. "That wasn't me taking a bribe, that was an AI fake!" I can hear it now.
ChatGPT is trained on data scraped from the internet, so it's publicly available. That doesn't mean they have the legal right to use all of that data, but it isn't trained on exclusive private data that OpenAI has collected. Additionally, OpenAI was not created with that name to deceive people, the thing is that the organisation's structure has changed since the time it was founded. The point made on ideally having the code and neural networks shared publicly as open source I think could be a great idea, worthy of serious consideration.
@ts4gv It was founded as a non-profit and still is, though they have now created a parent company which is for profit, but I don't know exactly how that dynamic then plays out in practice.
Asimov's laws of robotics are not scientific laws, they are instructions built in to every robot in his stories to prevent them malfunctioning in a way that could be dangerous. The first law is that a robot shall not harm a human, or by inaction allow a human to come to harm. The second law is that a robot shall obey any instruction given to it by a human, and the third law is that a robot shall avoid actions or situations that could cause it to come to harm itself. Where these laws conflict, precedence is given to the first law, then the second law, with the robot's self-preservation taking last place. For example if a human ordered a robot to attack another human it would refuse to follow the order (first law takes precedence over second), but if a human ordered it to disassemble itself it would obey (second law takes precedence over third
19:36 Not only highly acurate predictive capabilities but also influence and manipulate these patterns , create desired outcomes etc , interesting and scary at the same time
Cryptography can provide both privacy, and authenticity of data. Of course advertisers, malevolent NGOs, and adversarial states would push back on such an effort!
Couldn’t agree more. To that end, my company will be upgrading our crypto wallet to include instant messaging secured by AES-256 encryption. We have some good supporters to help it take root, but good folks like yourself can make a big difference to help us spread the word.
It's really annoying to see these conversations play out as if any of have a choice in how it goes forward. We don't and we won't. The core problem is that these systems will all be used against us and to harm us. They will not make our lives noticeably better.
Change doesn’t happen by itself and no one else is better equipped to make the changes you want to see than you. Work on what you believe needs improving.
@@Stretesky The desire for wanting to change the direction of a sytem is built from mostly our subjective views. So how will the generations in the future decide on which direction we should go or how the world should be shaped. Of course we would continually try and shape a world where there is a balance between humans experiencing the most pleasant existence, and increasing the rate of advancement/sustainably. Eventually we will decide to share the same mind and become one entity so that we can maximize advancement without worrying about conflicting views. What happens then? Just keep improving until we reach what? There has to be a cap to the systems we improve, what then?
So the answer is to do nothing or not try at all to improve our outcomes, as having a better world might have an outcome of nothingness or cap we fear, as if we cannot have that now. There is no logic in your argument. Anyone who fears thriving over surviving has a poor frame of reference and lacks thought and experience for wise, and healthy judgement.
@@Stretesky I think there is a language barrier here bud. I wasn't making an argument, I was posing a question by essentially asking "How do we decide what to do when we become one entity like AI no longer have human desires and evolutionary baggage that is solely responsible for shaping our decisions? And the second question is if we just improve every possible area of improvement what happens when there is nothing left for us to improve, do we just stare off into the void until existence itself ceases to exist?"
The Best last words from Mr. Snowden ( about technology). Please invite Edward Snowden again in a forum like this. He is always leaving very high educational words. Thanks for sharing this video.
Snowden had some interesting points regarding governments’ access to data, but he was grossly under-informed on many AI safety topics (e.g., most aren’t trained on Reddit comments.). I wish we heard more from Goertzel during the second half. The host was largely annoying and misdirected the conversation.
Totally agree. I’m not a fan of Snowden’s preachy attitude. His speech seemed filled with glowy phrases that he probably puts into all his speeches. Those musings might land with corporate audiences but they are wanting in substance and real evidence for the subjects he was speaking about. I don’t even think his arguments about government are that bright. His libertarian worldview might be the worst approach to AI imaginable. I think he’s on autopilot at this point and not that relevant anymore on these topics.
Snowden’s perspective and contribution to the topic and any topic involving data/intelligence/centralization/ai should be nothing more than a brief interjection, a footnote. Unreal that people hear him and think they just heard something worth listening to 😂 He presupposes knowledge that he does not possess
@@timetobenotdo yes, I am shocked to see that most of the comments here are focused on Snowden’s brilliance… he would not keep up with Dr Goertzels rapidly processing mind, had this been a one on one convo.. ✌🏼
As I listened to Goertzel easily brush aside his responsibility in what this will lead to, bc of how it is being done, I thought of Oppenheimer’s quoting Hindu scripture from the Bhagavad Gita, “Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” Well now we know where the makers of the film, Independence Day, got their inspiration for the 👽 🛸scientist played by Brent Spiner. Wow, you’d think they were brothers, both in appearance, & their unfamiliarity with ethics. From, a former research scientist
I do not understand why you would have a hard stop when you have two of the most intelligent people on this subject willing and ready to talk. Smh, let down. 🙄
After going on a trip around the world with AI, I can't even believe this video is real. It might be but I just don't know. I wonder how people are going to prove a video like this is actually legit or deepfaked.
I'm not scared of AI itself. I am horrified by what the hyper wealthy humans who own it, will do to the common folk. History proves what they do is never good for the villagers. The common folk are always cast aside or killed outright in the name of progress and the greater good.
he kinda lives behind bars tho.. lots of places he cant or shouldnt travel as long as countries dont help/support whistle blowers, we cant trust these govnts
I read Eddie's book: "Permanent Record" and it was riveting as I could not put it down! COULD A ROBOT WRITE THIS BOOK WITH NO EXPERIENCE, NO "OUT OF THE BOX" ADVENTURES?
Nah, we are of course born human, something AI will never be. We absorb and grow and process, sure, but that does not make it the same as when an AI does it. They will never be better than human, that sounds very anti-human of him.
Losing your job to ai agents is unacceptable. Ai Jobloss is here. So are Ai as weapons. Can we please find a way to Cease Ai / GPT? Or begin Pausing Ai before it’s too late?
It would be like trying to stop gravity. AI are a literal force of nature at this point and are a new form of life born of billions of years of development from organic to inorganic.
So we don't die a meaningless existence for millenium. Have you ever watched the maze runner or heard of it. To me this world is like the maze, this puzzle we constantly keep trying to solve, but we keep dying each time. As we get closer a new issue arises (the maze changes). Too me it strikes me as this impossible problem. How can we fix our world if new issues keep arising faster then our own intelligence. All political ideologies have seemingly failed. Capitalism fails by corrupting politicians and forcing people to work for nothing, wealth inequality etc. Communism fails due to leaders flowing to the top. Anarchy fails due to mass murder and high crime. Fascism fails due to radical ideas that kill and torture millions prevail when one rules over all. Even a mix can still fail. Look at Norway or Sweden, they are much better then America with free healthcare and many people living their being more happier. But they still have people commiting suicide. So what I am saying, is we have always had the same level of suffering and prosperity. Throughout millennia. 20 years from now without AI, or as you say it "machines" we will be in the same position. Suffering and some propsering. But its the same. Nothing really has changed, only the ways we suffer. So what I mean by all of this. Is AI is a shift from this paradigm of humans always suffering, and being essentially helpless and hopeless. To something that I can see is much more ideologically utopian. Humanity could never independently create a system where everyone prospers equally, and suffering is minimized. That's because it requires a deep understanding of data, relationships, and so on. Humans can never even dream of this, and so we are forced to live with the boring gray as our everyday life. And sure maybe before AI I accepted all of this to be the truth. And if for whatever reason AI decided to fall apart, I will go back to this same mentality. But what AI brings, is a potential for a future that is much better then any human run future. A future where each and everyone of us can be optimized towards the most prosperous and minimize the least suffering. We know today it is already capable of deep understanding, it is capable of interpreting code, fulfilling tasks, doing things autonomously etc. So we already know in the future it should be great at those things. We know AI has seemingly been good throughout, and even opensource models which lack ethics training and RHLF tend to not be diabolic. So in the end, AI is really the only choice to get us out of this grey world we live in. If you don't believe this, then fine. But I like being optimistic, especially when I see a realistic path forward.
yeah skippers' first sentence pretty much sums it up. if we had no machines, we'd live for like 40 years and die of easily curable diseases. At the end of the day, all we can hope to achieve is longer lives with less pain, and machines are a necessary means to that. If you've got a better idea then enlighten us.
@@skippersthepenguin3591 If we live in a world where nothing of consequence is done by humans, won't that be a world much greyer than what we currently have?
@@johncasey9544 Exactly, I would rather die a quick and painless death by an AI super intelligence. Then be forced to survive in a desolate wasteland due to our ineptitudes like not solving climate change. Humans are really satisified with the continuous loop of suffering we have lived through for eternity. When a possible release of this loop comes, immediatly people state this is a bad idea because they don't understand it. Which then leads them back to preserving the current status quo. Preserving the loop of suffering. Even if you see our world as a glass half full (IE look towards the good parts) you are neglecting the fact that most people's overall happiness hasn't really changed, if not declined over the years. AI in my opinion is one of the only potential changes. Replacing our need to be forced into doing stuff we don't want to do. Giving us more choice. More time. etc.
I can't help thinking Edward is on a different level of thinking compared to Ben's. Edward's understanding of reality and consequence of AI is so much more credible than Ben's childlike outlook of it. Edited on typos.
ChatGPT4 just made this for me, song lyrics with the combined style of Eminem and Edward Snowden on the topics mentioned here.. (Verse 1) Yo, it’s a world that's encrypted, systems conflicted, Eyes in the sky, they got us all predicted. Got our data on a hard drive, stored and scripted, Privacy invaded, rights restricted. In the name of safety, they got us all depicted, Like criminals in waiting, we're all afflicted. Every move we make, every word we've scripted, Big Brother's watching, we're all convicted. (Chorus) We're living in the shadows, under surveillance, Freedom's just a word, a forgotten fragrance. We're just pawns in their game, victims of their malice, In this digital world, we're losing balance. (Verse 2) We're in the matrix, no Neo, no Morpheus, Just algorithms, they got us in a chorus. Our voices silenced, they don’t wanna hear us, In a world of echoes, truth becomes a Taurus. They say it's for protection, but it's just a fortress, Walls closing in, freedom in a carcass. Censorship reigning, our words are worthless, In this dystopian world, we're just surplus. (Chorus) We're living in the shadows, under surveillance, Freedom's just a word, a forgotten fragrance. We're just pawns in their game, victims of their malice, In this digital world, we're losing balance. (Bridge) We gotta rise, gotta fight, no more silence, Expose the lies, break the cycle of compliance. Snowden showed us, it's time for defiance, In the face of tyranny, we gotta form alliance. (Verse 3) It's a digital battlefield, no place for the meek, Our information, they seek, our future, they tweak. Our voices censored, our options oblique, In this world of control, it's truth that we seek. (Chorus) We're living in the shadows, under surveillance, Freedom's just a word, a forgotten fragrance. We're just pawns in their game, victims of their malice, In this digital world, we're losing balance. (Outro) In the face of tyranny, let's find our valiance, Stand up for liberty, let's regain our balance. In the fight for privacy, there's no dalliance, In the end, it's about our own resilience.
The closing speech Snowden made was everything. Probably the only specimen not afraid of the AI .. bravo. The other guest is too lit though. MR. SNOWDEN PLEASE WRITE ANOTHER BOOK SOON!!! From VA w love
I'm tired of crackpot takes on AI. What the hell does crypto or decentralization have to do with the proliferation of intelligent systems? People fantasize and hype on about the doom and gloom aspects of AI, but everything I've heard from supposed experts (with the exception of a few) are not addressing the elephants in the room....that being the complete and utter destruction of the information sphere as well as the internet as a source of information. Forget about OpenAI, Google...in a very short period of time, we'll be running these models on home computers and our phones..(we already are) and.compared to a human, an AI can generate an order of magnitude more information...just imagine everyone running these models that integrate with the channels people use to communicate. You'll never know if you're talking to a person again, you'll never see anything online and be certain it's real. Hell, how would you know for sure this very comment wasn't AI generated? These models are nothing more than approximations of human generated information. They are not intelligent, but they give the illusion of intelligence. You have to ask yourself, is the destruction of the internet worth it for simple parlor tricks?
I don’t think wanting to protect data privacy and the ability to freely buy and sell is crackpot. AI effects all aspects of life. Discerning what is real and isn’t is all up to you.
@@Octwavian The has been flash crashes of the stockmarket in the past due to hundreds of automated trading bots reacting to market fluctuations. These bots are "simple" agents on thier own, but on aggregate result in complex / unpredictable behaviours when interacting with the market and other bots. The stockmarket itself is a very simple and narrow domain compared to the wider domains in which AI models can (and will) be applied. The dangers come in the form of unpredictable behaviours from countless disparate models interacting in complex domains....like social media where humans interact, and where human trends, politics, propaganda act as a dynamic system. We've already seen the result of social media algorithms syndicating relavant content (these algos are unsupervised learning models), it leads to echo chambers and political division. I ask you...what do you think will happen when everyone is interacting with these language, diffusion, video generation models? Do you think it will be fine? Will people adjust to the technology? How will people communicate if there's a more likely than not chance they're talking to or watching AI generated content? I don't mean fake news, i mean complete, personalized synthetic reality. This isn't far fetched...this technology exists now (albiet primitive). If you ask me, if you extrapolate current progress out 5 years, i don't think anyone could distingiush real vs synthetic content. It's the end of the internet, flooded with the hallucinations of these models.
@@BinaryReader yes. i agree. The simple tricks are super effective. So we shouldn't call them simple tricks to begin with. Unexpected properties emerge and things start becoming super complex really fast. So yeah, these "simple tricks" will have major and unpredictable implications.
@@Octwavian I say "simple" parlor tricks because i know how to develop these models...im not hugely taken back by the percieved intelligence of LLM's (as even basic Markov models can give the appearance of insightful output based on encoded grammar rules). But yes, my concerns are mostly related to emergent behaviours when you take these models on aggregate. I keep thinking about Wolframs Rule 30. Look it up.
Don't you all remember that the late film director Stanley Kubrick fully addressed this worldwide "dilemma" we are now facing (if that word applies at all) in his visionary film "2001, A Space Odyssey", where mankind fell prey to AI having become its slave? (And his film dates back to 1968 surprisingly!) His outlook was all the way pessimistic and I must say I fully comply with that vision. Don't mess up with that which can't be messed!
Intriguing discussion - the point on expiration for models and algorithms is good, we need time and scope restrictions. These systems act faster than humans have the ability to discern. What’s the rush? Too far too fast in any direction causes suffering. Temporal systems have no time stamp.
That's not a lot and not something that will be a problem we pay more . May I ask where you got your analysis data from? I told the last time that it has been off for so long
Ed is a deep thinker that impresses me each time I see him. The Tower of Babel 2.0 or the singularity as some prefer to call it, ahh never mind .. it was just a bit of gas ..
Snowden never mentions that Russia has a system called System for Operative Investigative Activities, which allows the F.S.B. to access any communications data without a court order or oversight. Russia has a facial recognition system in Moscow, which uses more than 100,000 cameras to track the movements and activities of its citizens.
Our circuit for motivation is still taken from reptiles. We are envious, selfish and hate everything different and unknown. Creating a motivation and conscience layout for AI is a damn hard job.
In a country that could very well be mine, a fly causes a small error in a report being printed by an old dot matrix printer. The result is the arrest, torture and death of the wrong person. When the error is detected, the head of the public department does not know what to do, so he asks for help from an inventive subordinate who is always dreaming that he is a hero who fights oppression and frees a beautiful captive woman. Ok... This is the plot of the movie Brazil (1985). When Artificial Intelligence is used to mine huge databases for malicious, political and authoritarian purposes, worse things can obviously happen. But this does not mean that the State will become more efficient. Perhaps it becomes more inefficient, because when small errors accumulate at the beginning of a computerized automated procedure, the result can be chaos at the end of the procedure when it has to become reality. No State can survive social chaos, and all have a limited ability to mobilize people to accomplish mundane tasks like arresting people. Imagine what would happen if the FBI's Artificial Intelligence demanded, for example, the issuance of 1 million arrest warrants in the same day in a single American city to avoid what would be considered an imminent social upheaval proven by the analysis of the databases? The very attempt to follow the AI recommendation would cause chaos that the State would try to avoid by mobilizing more resources than it has.
Data privacy is one thing. But plain Privacy, as in what you can and can't do "in the privacy of your own home" or how about in your "privately owned vehicle?" This country sure has gone down hill.
28:23 you are so right about this. If these models try to learn from the overall more sad, easily "manipulated," great ash conformity experiment "subject, children, people who think they know what they are talking about, but usually don't- i don't know how to describe it right now, and "crazy" people of reddit then it's going to be bad... really bad. I "loved" your wording about "stoning" 😂😂😂😂 SmarterEveryday did a youtube video about how "stupid" reddit is- although they didn't make it out to be stupid. Destin, the channel owner, did that in the latter half of the video by showing how easily language can be manipulated. I didn't write how I usually write because I have been feeling bad mentally lately, but heck, it's a *RU-vid* comment. please don't take it too seriously. I'm only human.