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Biggest difference between the two, the 1/24 cars have NO magnets holding it to the track

@@scottw2157 motors give a magnetic effect.....so they do somewhat.....

You're talking about adding substantial weight to the car. You'd need a circuit to regulate the voltage coming off of the track which I'm guessing isn't always a constant connection, so your need a capacitor to keep the microcontroller running if the car loses connection for just a split second.

@@skuzlebut82 It could be as simple as a balanced spoiler that increases it's angle of attack automatically as the air pressure on the car body increases. The aerodynamic shape of the body would not add any weight. It's just molded over a plug out of thin plastic. Even if you added electronics the corner speed increase might offset the hit taken in the weight department.

@H Higgins reversing the polarity certainly isn't the best way to brake, some "smart" digital controllers like the Yatronic ACD series do it, but usually it's just done by basically shorting out the motor, so no reverse power is applied

@H Higgins yeah but nowadays it's bad practice as there are quite a few brands where the motor actually will have a way shorter lifetime when people use PWM control (to ride) and/or reverse power brake, thats why difalco and kopriwa dont do that

Would add too much weight. The name of the game is a very light high rpm car, so you can keep it planted like an F1 car in corners.

Good times, Sigh! Back in the 70's I was spoiled and had the Tyco Niteglo and multiple sets of AFX tracks. I also had the Sizzlers tracks. How many people remember the Sizzlers cars that you would charge up and race?

Fast is much easier when you don't have to go around bends!

That's around 250 mph or 400 kph.

Wahay! You can type what you heard!! You’d make an excellent 2 year old (4 year old in the USA).

@@mactheknife4786 You're fun at parties aren't you...

So.. If it weighs 20 grams.. That will be 626 grams of force.

@@asteen75 & a shit tone of speed.

And what's the downforce on the straights?

@@asteen75 So it's at least 626.1 grams of downforce or that plastic sheet-thingy would go flying?

Its the Weight of the slotcar... The force that pulls it outwards in a turn with 1m radius.

oh yea, Indoor carpet track...crazy fast

Yeah yeah, and the FPV drone racers will tell you that your 1/12 scale rc's are lame. To each his own. Peace.......

Looks like Saran Wrap with wheels. Guess it goes fast, but then the race is over. Why bother....

@@arthursmith1732 lol, lol ..lol

ye these wingcars literally have no issue whatsoever to stay in the track, as you can see the kid literally just held the trigger and the car stayed in the track, you could literally have done that with a standard resistor controller, however for other types of slotcars those controller upgrades certainly are more useful than just an "expensive buy", for example for scaleauto cars or plafit chassis based cars, and even Flexi type chassis cars (wingcars do have a form of a really minimal Flexi type chassis, but the lightweightness because of the minimalism and the winged bodies, meanwhile not only being light, the winged bodies actually do generate a HELL of a lot of downforce, which is why it stays in place), those are a lot harder to drive than these

And yet a few months ago a 1st edition charizard card. A piece of plastic and cardboard sold for $350,000 so nit sure what ur complaining about lol.

Oli I've seen guys spend that on them and that's USD.

Until China find there is a market for them and mass produce them

@@KarlUKmidlands ahah true but i'm guessing that if they actually do sell for that kind of money as ​Jon Kulas says, then it's because they're one off builds and therefore you're paying for their time and knowledge and i can see that getting up to $500 especially if there is a competitive race series

@@OliverHirstsLife Some of the high end 1/24 wing cars are built with titanium chassis designed in AutoCad, parts cut on a plasma CNC, and assembled using high temp braze systems used in the aircraft industry. It's difficult to make a chassis light enough while remaining rigid enough to perform well and durable enough to take a few wall shots from a deslot at the end of a straight. Just an unassembled chassis kit like that with NO electrics, wheels, tires, axles, bushings/bearings, guide flag, etc can run $400 by itself. If you buy a Lexan body designed and painted by a well known designer, they can run $200 minimum. At the high end of any hobby, the prices can get pretty outrageous but ask any pro, they'll tell you it makes a real difference between winning a national and being the king of your local club.

Samarium-cobalt magnets, sometimes multi-segment magnets, balanced armatures, ball bearings instead of plain bearings, aluminium alloy endbells, gold plated brush hoods, and quite a lot of careful alignment putting the motor together. Many of those top end motors are made by Koford Engineering who also supply the aerospace/defence industry, so they don't make anything cheap.

Scalextric was/is the home version, but we also had slot cars in the UK. There was a track near me back in the seventies similar to the one in Daves video, but not as big (or fast), I doubt if it is still there though.

They are surprised... that you want to shove something into them!

They didn't want people getting killed by being able to plug in a plug 2 ways, because that can connect active to neutral. 110V is bad, but 240V will kill.

@@leocurious9919 - and afterwards they turn into round-earth sockets that have the "O Face".

Looks like Scream face mask

Not sure, sorry

Wouldn't it just look like a car doing 1/20th of the speed?

@@sdgelectronics That is correct. It would just look like a slow car to begin with, unless there is some weeble wobble of that plastic, you could see that...

@@leocurious9919 at those speed, the car sure wobbles.

Doesn't Dave have a Chronos?

Most of the cars are actually sliding at those speeds round the corners. In SA we race group 12 and you can see where the goop is disturbed after the car has gone past. SAMCA has been running since the 60's and still hold national events at a few venues throughout the year.

wikipedia says amateurs were getting stomped so it wasn't fun anymore, and then RC cars became a thing so then they had something they could play with at home. seems logical. i mean look at that supercar in the video. if you were racing against cars like that why would you bother to keep buying cars and bringing them in to race?

@@ssl3546 yep, and it's the same thing in the RC world right now. No one wants to play with competitive racers because they suck all the fun out of it. It's just a toy, even if RC is my life, it's just a toy. It's made for fun. I dont get these guys who get so damn upset.

@@ssl3546 That makes sense - I have a friend who family was in the industry - I will ask him for his thoughts.

My friend said it was a fad in the 60's and fads come and they go. When they go a lot of shops, dealers, manufacturers get stuck with a lot of inventory which is suddenly not worth anything. That is what happened in the toy and hobby industry . It is nice that slot car aficionados and collectors still keep it remembered. I was at a rummage sale this past weekend and a guy had whole box of slot car snap together track with the power supply and hand trigger controllers - but no cars $5 for it - I passed on it though .

I was thinking that as well. Definitely a bit "How you doing". Given young kids walking around there. A jolt off those caps would put you on the floor.

I do like a red cable being used as positive and negative.

@@dj_paultuk7052 assume its only 12V, though the whole lot going up in flames is definitely a possibility

@@dj_paultuk7052 You can't get a "jolt" off low voltage caps.

@@dj_paultuk7052 - I cannot imagine how careful you are with those dangerous 9V batteries, given young kids walking around your house. Oh wait, that would be a silly thing to say.

It looks like your average $1 motor but while they are mass produced by robots this motor was likely precision crafted by a single human to meet very specific requirements, most of the $600 would be to pay the human that put in those hours of work. As for the controller I'm not sure what would make it cost that much. Maybe something similar, but at that cost why not spend an extra $100 to make it at least somewhat visually appealing?

Agree. My open motor is faster and was less than $150.00. Controller was also $300.00 and can run the hottest G7 wing cars. Apparently he way overpaid for everything. Video of my car as proof. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4hYqt2PhoTg.html

It Really Costs Much, But ONLY FOr The Slot Cars, If You Buy The SAME Motor For Different Purpose It Will Cost You 5 Bucks. And The Controler is Just a Few Mosfets With Solder And A Copper Wire, I Was In The Slot Cars And I Made It All MySelf, Not The Shasy And The Motor, But All Made Myself For Nothing, This Is STUPID, This IS To Separate The Kid Parents From They Money..

@@krisraps - We ALL Know That You Are Absolutely Full Of Bullshit, Simply Because You Cannot Type A Sentence Properly.

@@WaytooFastSpeed Geez that is quick!

You forget that the USA uses a 3 digit area code, which equates to a city or region. We changed to the 8-digit phone numbers because our Area Code is only 2 digit (covers a whole state).

sourdonkeyjuice ikr probably under 100 is good

Remember that people pay +500 for a fucking phone with bitten apple

@@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ phones have a relatively low profit margin.

@@sourdonkeyjuice Relatively...

If thats truly what you think, clearly youve never had a hobby

A smart guy like you can work it out, Marco.

@@johncoops6897 Yes, i used a program to calculate the distance in metres, but it was easier if Dave that did. For me, that imperial system is an old fashion system.

Above 60amps start current per car x 8 lanes.

I remember the place....

They all complete x-number of laps in each slot. After a set monger of laps, they all move over.

The tracks are all required by the rules to be at least a figure of 8, using a flyover, in principle, this ensures that all lanes are equal lengths

Plenty of tracks around in the UK if you want to travel a shorter distance!

And gold is only good for insulation or electrical contacts. Slot cars are way more fun than gold. Just think about that

@@mikdonalds3956 good point, but gold is a horrible insulator. in fact its thermal conductivity is relatively high. it is only good at reflecting radiant heat. just think about that.

The cars are too light to do any real damage. I'd be surprised if that car reached anywhere near 100 grams. which is only 8% of the impulse of a bullet, and less than 3% of the muzzle energy of a handgun.

@@deelkar I agree won't be anywhere near 100g, probably more like 30g. I do think however that 30g travelling at 100km/hr would do some serious damage. Try getting tapped on the forehead with a teaspoon, then imagine it doing 100km/hr and do the same

@@abeleski have you ever played "spoons" when you were younger? Two people put a spoon into their mouth then take turns hitting each other on the head.

@@willeveryday Sure have, but I think you already knew that from my comment. :)

The "wings" on the faster green car flatten out at speed, and generate a down force that was described to me by a former professional racer as approximating the weight of a brick. However, if for some reason the car does leave the track at speed, it quickly loses its directionality, and the ungainly wings suddenly become very un-aerodynamic. They don't exactly become fluttering leaves, but you get the idea hopefully.

Given the speed, I'd throw up hell out of myself XD Still a great idea :D

@@TheFreaxTux Oh, for the speed racers, no way in HELL you'd be able to see anything, but for the slower ones, might get more people into the sport.😉

Do you HONESTLY believe that somebody who pays $1000 for a car and $600 for an engine wouldn't have already worked out the best ratio?

@@johncoops6897 They'll have it worked out big time, but it does seem like a fairly big speed reduction from the motor shaft. I did say "some limitation requiring a bit more torque?". There is going to be a reason.

@@mike_x48954 - I am no expert AT ALL, however my assumption (calculated guess) is that torque requires AMPS. Big Amps require big wires and brushes and magnets. With more torque you don't need to spin as fast to create the same amount of horsepower (which is what's making the car move). Conversely, by spinning the motor at some crazy high RPM, then can get the equivalent HP with a much smaller amount of current. and thus uses a physically small and light motor.