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Great to see you guys here. I'm a huge Keysight fan boy, and own a scope and fully-loaded 16700A and 16900A logic analyzers. Glad to see you're interfacing with the community!

@@keithmonahan629 Thanks Keith!

Ah, did I have an old datasheet or just goofed it?

@@EEVblog Either goofed or used a 3000A datasheet. The 3000T has an upgraded oscillator.

Bought a new MSO-X3024 in 2011 and still do not regret it. Only bad point: Disconnect it from mains if it not used. Some Rs in the PSU desolder themselfes over time.

You are the best. Most polished interface and no nonsense. Probably my next scope!

@@movax20h Really appreciate your feedback

Shame the bundle price is not available now, the 1G/4ch RTM3k is about £11k in the UK with no options :(

My competitors never put the price. My prices are visible for everyone

@@Sidowse Off their 50% inflated price.

In bed until midday today, only got around to releasing this at 2pm. I think I need to get my affairs in order, I may not make it....

Sorry I'm little late to the party but if you do put that PA function I'm getting one!

@@Leezorc Just drop us a line at info@siglent.com for more info

Keysight responded and a gentleman who works for Tektronics did as well.

This is what happens when you ask an engineer which product is "the best" or "the cheapest"... they dive down a rabbit hole, suddenly they've made spreadsheets and your final answer is a 3-page spreadsheet

All whilst sick as a dog. Where's my Nobel?

@@AF29007 Yup. I've got a spreadsheet for almost every component search I've done. Unlike Dave, I can't keep all the specs in my head, and I'm never satisfied until I know all the options.

@@EEVblog I already submitted a nomination, but I've heard the competition is quite fierce. How about an Ig Nobel instead?

@@mikemike7001 I'll settle for that

YEP STUART... THEY SURELY DON'T MAKE EM LIKE THEY USED TO STILL HAVE MY TRUSTY OLD HAMEG HM 203 NONE OF THAT FANCY DIGITAL STUFF THE YOUNGSTERS ARE SPOILED WITH THE WIFE TELLS ME TO THROW THAT OLD TV SCREEN AWAY BUT IM NOT HAVING ANY OF THAT

@@MrGuano11 WHY ARE YOU YELLING!

@@nulano He's old. When your hearing starts to go, you often tend to yell. (Judging by his statement, and how he's standing behind, tugging on Stewart, I assume he's old.)

😂😂🤪

He's... _he's not wrong_ 🤔

*looks around and cries*

Yep, My brother is a field engineer/ technical salesman, for Keysight. I've seen equipment in his living room worth over 100K.

@@Joetechlincolns I've seen a circuit board used in telecom that's worth over 120K!

@@examplerkey . I believe it!

Even my budget unit to like 400bucks 100/1Gs. are on some of these specs holding its own //i.imgur.com/uDF7Nj9.jpg 95 to 100.000 capture rate.(own testing not referring to spec so it's very likely I'm doing something wrong) i.imgur.com/fqhbhUQ.mp4 29Mb depth. HDMI out. 256 levels of grading. same with color correction/heatmap. + all this extra jazz with logic signals also included. /UART, LIN, CAN, SPI, I2C though not sure about these 429 & 1553B. i.imgur.com/SmZWoi2.jpg i.imgur.com/OJdFqHG.jpg i.imgur.com/AwssZqG.jpg One thing, IM starting to use more and more is the mouse i.imgur.com/6T4hTjM.jpg as it makes the maneuvering fast and in lack of a bench, really do like that I can have most of it in a bag..i.imgur.com/f7zLdLO.jpg i.imgur.com/0bt36CS.jpg the 4 scope probes, 2x low-current-clamps,. (100k 60A ETCR 45US and a 20k 65A Hantek 35US) plus all the cables to charge it and one of these AC in between devices where you can cramp around or use the small wholes to take voltage.(the red unit with adapters) sadly no EU variant at these low china prices 8US i.imgur.com/tJj8QTA.jpg The portability makes it ideal for a newcomer that is learning and wanna take it around to all parts of one's daily life to see the different aspects of electronic gear and easily put it in the closet when done and the 420 nits brightness makes it useable outside.,. Though I don't know how many points the FFT actually have.. in FFT math mode the highest K-point it will show is 88k, but if that is the FFT value, I don't know. Here at 70k with an FY6900/60Mhz DDS i.imgur.com/i5Kh1OU.mp4 I personally really like the color-corrected intensity heatmap and with 256grading looks wicked, here with Runcam2 FPV out while fumbling infront of the sensor..ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FRlH1ZSPQkk.html n00b in motion ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Iy2NvuZUYXk.html

Car Ram Rod ... This means that Dave did good marketing job and deserves a commission .

But can't afford one.

Simon Tay .... You buy one if you just asked your miser boss to lend you some money for it.

I heard that Tek has reduced their scope prices heavily to stay competitive with the Chinese ones. 5 years ago, they could barely make a smart phone, but now they're making everything relatively cheap and the quality sometimes surpasses expectation.

what about the hantek ones ?

I am Dave's representative. Send it to me at my house. I'll make sure Dave get's it. You can trust me because I have an honest face, see ----> :)

His official review policy www.eevblog.com/reviews/

Faithful and sincere person....

Come to think of it, I think you are right.

I could be wrong but I believe only on the 4000, on the 3000 you could have scope or spectrum analyzer mode, not both at the same time.

Now THAT would be interesting! There are quite a few models these days.

I was just searching his channel for that and started watching this because it didn't exist. So surprised he still doesn't have a budget oscilloscope shootout, please David!

It would be awesome if 1GHz scopes were in that range. Lol Gotta keep scouring Ebay for a good deal. (Edit: spelling)

Not accurate. 1, There is a thing called oversampling. 2, There is a thing called interpolation. 3, It's not just the waveform it's the experience of having larger sharper display not only for the waveform but also for the text and FFT etc.

Didn't know about their refurbished store. If it suits your needs, no need to to buy new.

@@EEVblog www.tek.com/encore Not only scopes but all the instruments directly from Tek.

Dave - thanks for covering this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-glktcnck-uk.html

Yeah and it would have perfromance of a $1000 scope for $10000, also would took 50 years of Dave's life to design it, usually those are designed by huge engineering teams...

Well no matter where they came from, personally I think it's a bit ridiculous that the other scopes which cost $10k-$15k don't also come with a 1080p screen in 2019.

Yep, forgot about that

At 1 GHz, you're almost always using active probes that have minimal loading characteristics. On top of that, it's very common to use 50 ohm mode instead of high impedance mode. In the 750 MHz to 1 GHz range and above, you almost have to switch over to 50 ohm mode to get decent measurements.

You're right. Repair shops don't need them. Universities will only buy basic 100MHz ones. You can count on your fingers and toes how many researchers would buy. Only a few serious debuggers out there who might buy. So yeah if the scope is $£100k that means there's probably only about 10 people who are buying it in the whole world!

Tell that to any RF or EMC engineer for example

you mean all hobbyist and subscribers of this channel are? The people you mentionned don't need to see video from this channel to care about gigahertz scope.

I think there is, on the EEVblog forum

If you do some digging I've seen some very impressive mods

So you'd rather pay $20k? These scopes usually last for decades, and even if something went wrong with it you could buy another one in a few years and likely still be ahead, or get it repaired and be way ahead.

Gotta love the EU, mandatory 2 year warranty

@@EEVblog The repair cost for a 10K scope is likely to be several thousand. Not a pleasant surprise, if they are so sure then why only offer such a short warranty. Buy one at 10k.. then buy another at 10k .. no thanks. It's all very well having highly expensive test equipment at bargain prices, but these days they are not repairable on a DIY basis. It's a risk that's ok for bigger companies to take, but for hobbyists or sole traders.. it's a big gamble. You're not talking from the perspective of a sole trader who has to buy their scopes with their own cash.

@@tommihommi1 2 years is for new things only, refurbished / used products can be sold with 1 year warranty only

Your blind patriotism conflicts with your awful grammar.

@@extide Keysight was HP.

Agreed. (I work at Tek though and did a lot of work on the 4 series, so I might be a bit biased...)

@@Damaniel3 I met lots of EE and all trust tek for scope and keysight for specAns

Probably nobody commenting here :)

Luckily I'm on Bitchute

wat

For one thing scopes are a time investment. Just imagine something Like a car, sure its a lot of money but you are not planning to get another one in, say, at least 4 years! The companies that make these scopes I.e. design/building have a their own employees to pay as well. And if the job market for these engineers is 100k a year, then your product should be pretty darn expensive. There are a lot of different angles to look at to understand why these scopes are so expensive.

@@Okurka. No, abote car for 20k I will not even think but house is something another. I will have no problem with it. It will stay there even for next generations but some peace of electronics which has BOM +- 2k max and has performance matching 20 years old stuff (I know it is better but not so much...) and after five years will have value 2k at most? No!

@@darer13 Why you should buy a new one in just a 4 years? Becouse the manufacturer will give you fullHD screen in time of 4K res? Or add a few MB more for samples than pc has allready tens of GB? Its time to say F**k off...

Lots of companies make cheap scopes with limited performance. But for the 1GHz market, pretty much everything has to be custom designed, so only the largest manufacturers can afford to do that. You're no longer dealing with standard signal design but some RF and serious signal integrity issues which cost time and millions $ to resolve properly - and you have to buy the test equipment and simulation software to get it to work. The cost of designing an ASIC for a scope here can be in the order of $10M - some smaller chips may be less but it takes time and experience (highly paid engineers). So if the company sells 100,000 units, that's still $100 NRE plus the cost of low-volume silicon manufacture which could be another $100. Several ASICs and the big FPGAs in each and you're easily spending $400 on silicon alone in each scope. RF attenuators, highly sophisticated amplifiers, custom DACs and trigger circuits all add up. The firmware code is typically 50MB - 100MB, that's a lot of software engineering plus constant bug fixes. So the BoM of standard parts might be less than $1k for sure, but the total cost of designing the product might be as much as $50M, hence there is utilization of the technology over many product models which sell for maybe 10 years - so the amortised NRE that you have to add to the BoM cost is $500 - $1k+ per unit (so long as they sell many 10,000 units in the lifetime of the product). The manufacturer has to make a profit, they typically have a reseller or distributor who makes a margin, the models vary in price from the low-bandwidth ($2k) and low-cost to the higher bandwidth ($10k). It's only the higher bandwidth models where they actually make their money - if they only sold 100MHz-200MHz models then these would have to be a much higher price. Check the financials of these big test companies, their bottom line nett profit tends to be in the single digits (