Dave gets a WORLD EXCLUSIVE, a look at the new Agilent 2000 series oscilloscope being released TODAY. Is it going to change the world like Agilent claim?
@Zadster The Rigol 4 channel 200MHz version is $1900. So the Agilent is great value at $2600 retail IMO. If you want 200MHz 4 channel for home that does not come cheap.
@keenantims I think it's likely intentional for whatever reason, which may have some merit as you say. But that's usually the reference waveforms are for I figure. A menu option would be good to enable that if desired.
@nathanfain Fact is you can still get 50,000 waveform updates/sec for $1200 and IMO that's awesome. Show me were else you can get that? Yes, the options are fairly expensive. Yes, the scope I have was fully optioned up and costs a heck of a lot more than $1200. Buy what you need, and if you don't like the prices, buy elsewhere. Your choice.
Thanks for the review! We purchased DSOX2024A and happy with it so far. I evaluated also GW Instek GDS 3000 4ch scope. GW said that it captures 3000 wfm/s but in my tests it was closer to 100 wfm/s in the best case and when more channels selected, even less than that.
@EEVblog I've been disappointed in the direction Tek has been going lately with outsourcing all of it's design teams. The will make a big difference in my scope purchase later this year.
As most of your blog reviews, fantastic one. I don't own any Agilent equipment (always been too expensive for me), however after seeing this video blog I am already saving money to get me one of these. Well done Dave, keep them coming!
@miyukiTS I know, and said clearly in the review that I had the fully optioned up unit. Reviews always do the fully optioned up unit, otherwise who are you supposed to try out all the features?
@nathanfain Answered this. At agilent there is a $700 "DSOX2MSO" upgrade: "Upgrade your 2-channel or 4-channel 2000 X-Series DSO with logic timing channels for enhanced triggering and signal viewing." -- "Upgrade contains: license key, 54620-68701 logic cable kit, MSO scope label Minimum firmware required: 01.00 Installation performed by: customer"
Great review Dave. The Agilent is definitely on my short list of models for my next scope purchase. Firmware updating is a smart way to reduce hardware obsolescence.
@nathanfain The main feature I was excited about was the 50,000 waveform updates/sec. You get that for $1200. Show me another scope that can do that + segmented memory for $1500. What did you expect, Agilent were going to give away this scope with all the features for nothing and ruin their top end market overnight?
Agilent sure upheld their fame and brand name reputation on this one. Designed in house, made in house, no cut corners. Brilliant marketing move to get you one to review on the launch day. When you do all the right things, success is inevitable:) If I would to buy a scope today, it would be the new Agilent.
@EEVblog I agree. I just wanted to find all the details. I would still consider purchasing this scope. You probably could trade off on the waveforms and get something more inclusive for cheaper, or go PC scope. But yeah, having the option to start cheap and upgrade (even the mhz) relieves a lot of the contemplation. Buying a scope doesnt have to feel like buying a car :)
I guess i should consider myself lucky to be able to learn on these o-scopes. a lot of the things you pointed out, like the function gen, i just assumed all scopes had that sort of functionality. Really great review!
I think that's the first time I've heard Dave make it sound like being made in the USA is a good thing. LOL! Anyway, good video Dave. That scope is far out of my price range, especially fully optioned, but it sure is a beauty.
There's also a scalable USB module based on the same technology with two channels which sells for about US $1300 for the 100MHz model. Of course, you'll only get the scope, but Agilent makes a whole suite of USB lab modules for building a complete scope around an existing PC.
@oscopeman : jeriellsworth: The Tek MSO2000 lists 5,000 waveforms per second. The Agilent 2000 x lists 50,000 waveforms per second. Who is running circles around who here? Also, the scope was designed (just not assembled) in the mountains of Colorado. electrodacus: The non-real-time OS is not an issue, since all OS does not do much during operation unless you have math turned on.
Street prices in the US are about 10% off list (scopes and options). And even if a vendor is selling at list price, you can easily bargain. I got 10% off just by asking. I should have tried harder!
Great review, Dave. I noticed you saying that all the features are unlocked by a software update but the hardware is present on all the models. Just having a look at the Agilent site and it appears that's true for all the hardware except the channel inputs :(
this it the first time i watched a 1hr vid on youtube...and i didn't even get bored...salute to Dave. I was wondering, when are you going to make a review on the newer 9000X or 9000Q series scopes. Would also like to see some more beginner vids, particularly op-amps. With best regards from India!
Thanks for the nice Review. I just got my MSO-X 2002A and I really love that thing. I first wanted to go for a Rigol oder a cheap Tek, but the Agilent definitely was the better option. It's - as you already stated - an amazing value for money. Keep going, Dave, you're awesome!
i wonder if the persistence 'bug' is actually intentional behaviour. makes sense if you think of the metaphor of a persistent display... i can see it possibly being useful so you can turn down the vertical gain and get a better view of the historical traces. can't do that if it destroys that data on you, so they might have just been taking the more conservative approach. easy to clear, not so easy to bring it back if it clears for you every time. worth a menu option though.
I'm seeing this (2014), review as i'm considering this type of scope for my powersports work. What a great job. I really am glad for the education on this topic.
Also important to note are the features they threw in for your test model that cost actually a good bit. For example, the masking is some $400 or so, all the test wave forms come with the "education training kit" which is $500. Who knows what else. So yeah, to get close to what you had, even on a 70mhz model would probably get you close to or beyond the $3000 range, even at 70MHZ 2 channel. bah
I'm only about 8 years late to this review... but it was still enjoyable, informative and seemingly spot on. Of course I still can't afford this scope so it's a moot point 🤓 However THANK YOU!
Interesting how much this looks like the predecessor to the current (2017+) Keysight 1000 X-series DSOX1102 scopes. Same waveform update rate, identical specs on the wavegen, and both running Windows CE. It appears they derived the current 1000X model from this one. The DSOX1102 advertises 1M points memory per channel though, vs 100K on this older 2000X model. One of the things I've been unsure about with the current (2017-2019+) Keysight 1000X is the limited 1M sample memory - but apparently it's 10x as much as what this thing had. Even allowing for a faster 2Gsa/sec sample rate, it still translates to 2-3X as much memory in terms of time. It was interesting to see the features for triggering a video signal, because that's a definite application for whatever scope I buy someday. I've worried about whether I might need a lot of memory to look closely at video. The architectural tradeoff seems to be between huge sample memory on the Chinese scopes, or fast performance with less memory on the Keysights, due to their ASIC design that they were using here and are still using.
58:00 Well I don't agree there. If a person (like me) can barely afford a 400€ scope, then this is NOT a little bit more expensive. I am glad Siglent makes affordable entry level scopes and I am really quite happy with one of them. Of course this "new" Agilent scope is indeed a bargain, but it is still no small price difference (3x more).
You can easily have all in one, with an external display port.. you know like laptops have had almost since they were invented. Made since for early scopes not to have it, since they did not have a raster display. But that doesn't apply to any scope with an LCD. I would very much love to plug one of these into a 2560x1600 display. It'd be beautiful.
MSOX2024a = $3459. Stock memory: 100,000 points memory. It's only 1,000,000 points memory after paying $200 for the upgrade. No segmented memory without paying for a $307 segmented memory upgrade. No SPI/I2C decode without paying $500 for that upgrade. Rigol 2000 series comes with MORE than all that stock, for much less money. (besides the serial decode stuff since it doesn't have digital in--hopefully that's soon to come) It's making me considering returning my MSOX2024a
"...you really do need a proper operating system, like windows CE to run..." Yes, an OS is a good idea nowadays. But calling Windows CE a proper OS... naah :)
@EEVblog Yours looks like a MSO 2024A, thou. The babe you are holding, with the options, would cost unexcitingly USD 6,000 in Japan, which indeed is more than USD 1,200.
funny, I just checked both sites and these new scopes from Agilent look nice, but look like they are trying to catch up with the Tek ones that have been out for years. But any company that comes out with a new product better have something better then the current competition. Isn't it always a game of leap frog?
Err, dont see my earlier comment. You say "logic analyzer upgrade for $700" but their model breakdown, using DSO* for non LA models and MSO* for LA models seems to imply that you need to get the MSO* version for the LA. Is it just that or the MSO* AND the $700 upgrade? Would be great to get a DSO* and "upgrade" it with an LA later.
It would be nice if the Mixed signals were live not DEMO signals or video provided by agilent. Not NO input during video for the Mixed signal portion moreover that it states "demo Mode " at top of screen... How is this a validation of performance?? I know other Windows CE devices capable of streaming video!!!
DSOX2024A Oscilloscope, 4-channel, 200MHz Return to Agilent Warranty - 3 years NT$ 97,058 that is around USD$3235.But in another webpage it is $2,616?could it be no Warranty or what?
43:08 - smack-autoscale :) Nice review! If the hardware is already build in the scope, I ask myself (probably not only me): I wonder when someone will hack the software upgrades?
I have to buy this at work, at least the 2 channel, 70MHz, Logic model, everything else with time and money; my old CRT 20MHz HUNG CHANG is getting terribly old, I just "calibrated" it, again.
When you say that they designed a lot for modular upgradability i get this probably applies to software features however i wonder... for instance, in their modeling numbers, if you purchase a model without the logic analyzer feature (non LA = DSO* in their model numbering, with LA = MSO), would this be a hardware limitation or could one purchase an LA upgrade (hardware) later? You had said "if you purchase your LA module upgrade" so that and their modeling confuse
Hi nice dude thank you for your beautiful work, can you help me please? There is a nice function generator not very expensive (ATTEN ATF20B ), and I would like to know if this device can have one signal in phase and a phase shifted signal ( the same signal but inverted than the other) on each output? Does that function have a name? Thanks
@jeriellsworth No surprise, Tek are owned by the EVIL Danaher group! - profit at any cost, using the "Danaher System". But they are very good at it (profit that is), screw everything else. I was THIS close to doing a big blog rant about how Tek were outsourcing the design teams last year.
I just don't get that update rate crap Agilent is trying to shove up our ***. They optimize the scope for responsiveness, because engineer are men and think with their eyes (ask women). Well, when I get my focus on real deal, I found myself flerting with other products with less expensive optionals, better (bigger) memory and tools that enable fast debugging of my embedded applications.
Im a student going to to college and have really started needing a scope for some of my projects. after looking around this one really seems like the best fit but I work on alot of embedded projects and im looking for one with serial and i2c debug abilities. In the beginning of the video you pressed the button for serial decoding and it said it wasn't available but later at around 33:00 you played around with it. Does this mean that if you get the right upgrade you can get that feature?
here in TAIWAN they have lowerest price model DSOX 3012A 100MHz 2 $3475 USD = 104256 NTD.could not find any lower price model on web here!! could anyone tell me "Where" to find the USD 1200 one ? on the web here in TAIWAN.Angilent wetside i went to always turns to local.....
My unit is practically new. I used it twice and it has been sitting on my bench for about a year. I tried using it today and I dont get a display on the screen. The only lights that light up are the "math" and "ref". Any idea's? Is there a way to reset the unit?
to all whiners, i dont see Agilent forcing anyone to buy one nor the upgrades. If your wallet doesnt like the pricetag, get another one that does instead!.
