EEVblog 1615 - Dumpster Dive HP Pro One PC 

UPDATE: I have tried cleaning the sensors and edges, nothing. I have also tried Ubuntu 24.04 on a USB stick and nothing.

2:47 sticker says it all; "OS Win 8.1 Pro Downgraded to Win 7 Pro" - it is delivered with Windows 7 Pro installed, that was a thing back when 8/8.1 was a dumpsterfire and companies buying machines required 8/8.1 computers to be delivered with Windows 7 installed.

When hard drives show up as SCSI it's almost always a regular hard drive that is set to RAID mode in the BIOS.

2:42 Notice the small print on the label: "Win 8.1 Pro downgraded to Win 7 pro" Personally I would call that an upgrade...

We, for some weird reason, often received requests to disable the thing by any means necessary by larger companies or government users. Be it by physically disconnecting things internally or doing it in bios. Think it had to do with the additional burden on cleaning personell but I don't understand how. Just let the users clean their damn computer screens instead. Guess stupid is universal so you may wanna look into that.

I remember fixing/upgrading a couple of very similar HP machines at work years ago. The hard drive caddy is so complicated because the chassis is originally designed for 3.5" drives. I don't know why HP decided to put a slower 2.5" drive in this unit, or why they made that SATA extender board instead of just mounting the 2.5" drive in the corner of the caddy so it plugs into the existing connector. Most likely it isn't upgradable to an i7, as the motherboard won't accept any CPU with a TDP higher than 35W (so 4770 and 4770T are both out), and the BIOS doesn't support later Haswell Refresh chips.

Why does Dave have the world's best dumpster to pick in? It really makes me want to move from America to Australia and maybe one day meet Dave.

Regarding the touch screen not working: We used to turn off the touch screen in the BIOS so when people pointed at the screen they didn't accidentally click anything. Might check the BIOS for disabled touch interface.

@13:50 looks like that was designed to either use a 3.5in drive or the installed 2.5in drive with that adapter cage.

probably serial port so that it can be used in an older POS system

Cool, I have something similar, HP media pc, all in one, now i just have to boot it. Christmas present, many Christmas trees have since passed thru. Working fine when i parked it. A heavy tank just like yours.

Im glad someone likes the all in ones. Nice score Dave.

boot a linux live. touch will probably work. and you can do a lspci and google the device to find better drivers. or check additional drivers in windows update. I remember working on one of these a few years back. seem to recall the driver being a pain. had to be installed in the correct order with the video and chipset

I got 2 of these when a local florist went out of business. They used it as a point of sale machine tied into their inventory/reorder program. Too bad the upgrade to Win 10 deleted the drivers for the touchscreen. I installed an SSD last night in fact, runs like a scalded dog now. I use it for a surveillance system remote monitor. Hooks up to 5G Wi-Fi and everything. I do wish I had the touchscreen tho.

you have to enable "pen and touch support" in system options to get the touchscreen to work

A 4th gen i5 and 12 GB of RAM is totally usable nowadays. Sure you can't use it to for gaming at the highest graphics settings, but for all other applications it's more than enough. Good find!

All my best PCs and or Systems have came from the dumpster at work. I really love finding dozens of the HP EliteDesk Minis. G1-G8. All of them have 8 gig DDR4 and an Nvme 256 SSD. Just thrown away, I'm restarting my collection of NEC P4xx systems for a complete display wall for the everyday low low price of A few cables, and a little work, outside of work hours. 😂😆 It amazes me how much potential money just mixed with the rubbish.

That hard drive location is designed for a 3.5" drive, the caddy is to adapt to 2.5"

honestly that machines still servicable with a few upgrades

Nice score! An older PC but still decent for many tasks, especially with an SSD upgrade.

this looks like one of those cashiers pc that would connect to the register , maybe that explains the serial port and the touch screen

Supporting Win8 means it was supposed to be a 10-point capacitive touch, not the 2-point IR touch that was supported in Win7. I'm surprised that the 'downgrade to Win7' was allowed to stick with the IR. For the IR, the left/right/bottom edges are retroreflectors. The IR emitters & sensors are in the corners. The middle emitter/sensor is the 'vote' when there is ambiguity.

4:06 That somebody was HP themselves. Check 2:46. The sticker says "OS Win 8.1 Pro downgraded to WIn 7 Pro" :)

I have an even older all in one PC that I just used to set up Batocera. Very cheap retro games machine.

The HDD mechanism looks to be over engineered, because it's made to support 2.5" and 3.5" drives.

The best Dumpster in Sydney strikes again !!! LoL That said i hate these all in one PC's, dumb power supplies, zero upgrade slots...but FREE !

Win10 will run perfectly fine on a Core2 Duo believe it or not

If you don't want Linux on those devices, the best option is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise ... and activate it with Massgrave to get the Updates until 2031. I know it's piracy, but in this case it's ethically justifiable to literally avoid the devices going to landfill.

There is no Unknown devices in Device Manager, so I don't think it is a driver issue for the touchscreen. It is not even detected. Either it needs to be enable in the BIOS or hardware problem. You can try turning the lights off and point your digital camera to those sensors and see if they are alive.

nice find

The touchscreen also may not work without the HP Service Pack or whatever they call it. The files may have been nuked during the data deletion.

would do finely for a bunch of uses. with touchscreen would make a nice control screen for bunch of stuff.

Could be worth a try to check if the original hard disk has a recovery partition. Maybe you can find the right drivers for the touch functionality there.

Plug it in like Flynn

2:11 Yes mine have the BLUE colored USB indicating the high speed USB.

OOOH! how lucky to find computers like this, I love how you say "It´s kind of old" my computer is an AMD Phenom X2 black edition with 8GB RAM, A3 asus board, running W10 22H2 and its my every day, all day PC 😵‍💫

Haswell was the first generation with NVME, so maybe even a PCIE SSD is a go. Perfectly fine machine for Win10 or Linux and office. The RAM situation needs fixing for another performance boost too.

I'm fed up with this. - Our 'dumpsters' around here have broken chairs and dead cats in them. No electronics EVER.

Why is there such a big black border? It's like the old days on CRTs where you avoided going to the edges due to distortion.

There is a serial connector on the back of this huge microcontroller, so you could flash your own program. ;-D

I guess that HDD carriage is an adapter to support 2.5" HDDs looks like a 3.5" one would fit there directly

The sticker on the back says "Win 8.1 downgraded to Win 7". So it is the factory OS.

Serial port and DP, probably really useful if used as a POS Terminal

Check BIOS F10 on HP Logo. There may be an option to disable or enable the touch screen. If my suggestion works. Can I have a Chicken Dinner?

given it has a touch screen (that might be workable) and a COM port (serial DB9) maybe you can use it to access test gears com ports...maybe have a "push to test" button on the screen that makes a bench supply do smth...

Still useful for web browsing and daily work, not for gaming of course.

the screen looks decent

you legitimise something invaluable to people who love to learn about electronics. dumpster diving Dave strikes again (right through my cold dead heart)

bcdedit /set testsigning off in command prompt to check if driver signing is the issue for touch screen driver

If "Joshua" doesn't work, try "overgrown pile of microchips" or "silicon diode" 😉

I remember having to refurbish these at my 9-5 years ago. I thought they were halfway decent for what they were at the time. I’m still looking to find one but the asking price is still too high. Wish I could find one for free!

There's no chance that's a SCSI disk. It's plugged into some kind of off-brand SATA controller that presents itself to Windows as a SCSI interface, hence windows labels it as a SCSI drive.

Great find! It’s too bad that Windows 11 is going to make so many PCs obsolete.

Bet that tilt stand can be folded all the way back, so it can lay almost flatt on the table. So you can scetch and draw and "be creative" on it. Btw, have you checked for IR light from the 4 emitters?

If you plan on using the touchscreen, you might want to try and find the original Windows 8.1 restore disk. It was designed for touchscreen computers, that's why everybody hated it. If not, Windows 10 might be a better choice.

These All-in-one are dirt cheap atm, I bought 2 Dell Wyse for just some bucks and use them as display for schematics and youtube.. Running fine with Ubuntu, SuSE Linux or even Android x86 / Google ChromeOS.

Maybe the touch does not work simply because someone has switched it off in the BIOS?

Dave, will you do a debunk video on Embr Wave wearables, it seems to me a TEC peltier module that's app controllable over bluetooth from phone they even have subscription plans to ripoff people

u can in fact install win11(bypassed)

Wow, I just trash picked almost the same one except its not touch screen. Unfortunately, i cant get in dje to the PW. Is there any way to bypass it? Or is it junk now?

I installed windows 11 on a free system with an i3 4100 😂 runs streams at 1080 / 60fps perfect for media consumption.

Touch screen might be disabled in the bios.

Did you ever find a Wyse (Dell) PC?

With the amount of good stuff that you find I think you should get a shipping container or buy an old warehouse and start storing everything even stuff that’s not USB three with the way things are going today you don’t know how long you got tell company start taking back electronics and you don’t really own it they’re basically doing that with the recycle programs think about it how much useful technology gets thrown away every day I would love to have a laptop right now a desktop computer i’m on an iPad that I’ve have to upgrade soon so I can keep watching RU-vid As sander cage would say it’s all the education we got

When all the companies were going bust and liquidating a few years ago, I was going around industrial estates and looting the bins. Found one with hundreds of Lenovo tablets in them and made £25K on them.... No wonder why these companies all lose so much money and cost the tax payer. I still have about 4000 Siemens motors that sell for £600 odd each when new, but they were all used... but still work fine. Sadly I haven't got shot of them yet as they're a niche sell. Frigging one company threw away so many CCTV cameras as well, the 360 ones and they were all brand new. I want another lockdown so I can go looting again lol.

I would like to find such items in the basket

Is the touchscreen controlled by / turned off in BIOS?

Dave it's a HP Leave it in the Dumpster mate

If you can find a pair of matched DDR3 1600Mhz SODIMM sticks you'd get a relatively cheap but substantial performance boost as the RAM would be able to operate in dual channel mode, the current mismatched sticks [4GB+8GB] will prohibit the system from being able to leverage DDR's dual channel mode. For the touchscreen HID driver you might have to manually install/update the "HP Touch Screen Filter Driver" driver in Windows device manager, at some point HP's Windows driver signing certificate changed and they never recompiled/re-signed their older driver releases, therefore Windows 10 will not automatically use the signed [with an invalidated certificate] driver by default without a bit of jiggerypokery. Aside from that it's a good find that could be put to multiple uses of which I'm sure you've already got something planned for it.

Check the sn, swap in an SSD, clean install Win10 to make it more useful.

Yeey, dumpster diving

Have you checked the BIOS for touch screen? Maybe someone disabled it.

That serial port is so odd on a newish PC, probably some public service counter PC, like Disservice NSW, with some serial gadget on it.

11:22 Excuse me? 😂

Nice slot machine emulator you got there, if the touchscreen was working 😢

I fail to see the problem with advising to install Linux on this.

Did Davey forget how to film horizontally? Lol

Nice AIO, I'd keep it. Pretty modern and really well built. To be honest, it's the same generation as my main PC after a recent upgrade; I got a hand-me-down semi-discombobulated PC from our tech uni's robotic association. i7-4790 on a GA-Z97X-UD5H mobo, better than my i7-2600k on a GA-P67A-UD5L. It may not be faster, but is way more stable. As for the HDD, it may be for storage while the system may be installed on a M.2 SSD on the mobo. I'd be very surprised if the old mechanical disk was used for the OS. Joshua... classic, but I thought you could only pull it off on an IMSAI. Speaking of your Comically Long Screwdriver, it reminds me of how I had to fix a pair of Samson db500a stage monitors with holes so deep I had to use a makeshift screwdriver out of a M8 threaded rod and a spare hex bit extender. Good enough for reaching the screws WaaaaaaaaaaaaayDownInsiiiiiiiiiiide and certainly longer than yours, haha! Give that fan a BJ, post a video on OnlyFans.

w8 has touchscreen support build-in. w7 doesn't.

Hands up all those that like fingerprints all over their screen V those that like a clean screen with mouse and keyboard !

Hacker Davey Jones the dumpster PC whisperer. The fine art of dumpster scores.

It could sign in to the neighbours wifi network...ghehehe ip scan.....

youtube is acting weird when i first saw this vid on my feed it said negative 2 minutes with no views

Install Linux on it. Install Linux on it.

I have a few clients that have a lot of AiOs, all really good spec and none that can be upgraded to W11. Such a waste.

Windows 10 will work but may be slower than Win 7.

Put the latest Debian or Fedora on it! All the latest Linux distros will run on a potato, especially if you use LXDE. Windows is for lusers.

Portable Karaoke Machine!

As soon as I get a pc, I head to the task manager...

If my I5 2410m laptop can run windows 11, so can that thing.

Perhaps you should try booting Linux on it to see whether the touch screen is actually broken. A lot of time Linux already has a driver for such things and it works out of the box

Wow Dave's impression of a commenter was spot on. I thought for a second he was playing a recording of an actual commenter.

12gig is enough for Australia,.... Explain

why no linux 🥺👉👈

Nice ! Can I ask you your opinion sir ? I have a muscle foot scooter I built. It is 40kw . 86v 24s 100v top charge with JK bms . They can shut off the discharge, and charge options . It has 2 separate 40ah batteries that are redundant set ups . I like to recharge them at 3 amps each . I only have one charger that can do 9amp variable. I would like to charge them both at the same time using a splitter on the same charger. They don't always have the same voltage. Can you think of any down sides to this idea? Will it harm anything? Thank you for all you do!

Yep, HP machines from back then seem to report SATA drives as SCSI for whatever reason, I remember noticing that in our SCCM inventory reports.

10:26 Ackchyually...

Boot up Ubuntu live disk/stick to see if its a driver issue. I can imagine that one of the sensors are clogged or something similar.

Specs should be enough for cat videos.

I have two HP all in one. It plays DVD's so it can be kept for just that. Otherwise a extremely weak PC. I got my two out of the garbage as well. The power supply cost me some money though.