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Dave shows you how easy it is to do surface mount SMD reflow soldering with a solder paste stencil and a hot air gun:
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Hints and tips for quick and easy component placement, solder paste application, and reflow soldering using cheap easy to get tools.
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@ZsomborZsombibi
@ZsomborZsombibi 5 лет назад
After 6 years, your adventures are still actual and give help to others.
@michaelpiotrowicz6100
@michaelpiotrowicz6100 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave, your video collection needs to be held by the National Library.
@michaelmolter6180
@michaelmolter6180 8 лет назад
I make "free" stencils for almost all of my SMD projects. The lab I work in has a cheap, hobby-level, laser cutter that I use. I cut open aluminum cans, sand of the inner plastic layer, spray paint the can, laser off the part of the spray-paint mask that I want to have solder on, and then etch the aluminum in standard PCB etchant. It takes a half hour tops.
@sigmundurjohansen7166
@sigmundurjohansen7166 4 года назад
Would like to see a video of that :)
@MrMWPro
@MrMWPro 4 года назад
or you can pay like 5$ at jlcpcb
@Minecraftmike5089
@Minecraftmike5089 4 года назад
@@MrMWPro the can method can be done in 30 minutes, i don't think jlcpcb will beat that
@freezedream
@freezedream 3 года назад
I know this is 4 years old, but this method sounds amazing. I was looking into using Al cans but thought I had to do toner transfer. What type of paint? Just standard gloss spray? What type of etchant do you use for Al? I thought it needed to be something like HCl/H2O2. I guess even just NaOH should work.
@michaelmolter6180
@michaelmolter6180 3 года назад
freezedream This was a while ago before JLCPCB had really become as popular as it is now. PCBs were really expensive back then ($50+) so I was making those using a similar process on copper circuit board material. I just used off the shelf matt black spray paint. It was a chemistry lab, so we had easy access to diluted HCl solutions. A little bit of Baquacil pool oxidizer (concentrated H2O2, but much cheaper) really sped up the reaction. I remember it always being a bit of a balance between using up your HCl or oxidizer and having to add a bit more to keep the bubbles etching.
@bearwolffish
@bearwolffish Месяц назад
This was gold for pitfalls to avoid.
@catharperfect7036
@catharperfect7036 2 месяца назад
The solder mask working along with the hot air is so satisfying.
@BenjaminGoose
@BenjaminGoose 10 лет назад
Never seen this done before, pretty amazing the way the solder melts and reforms into an efficient shape.
@jwiegley
@jwiegley 9 лет назад
Dave, I know this video is well over a year old now but I wanted to add that in a pinch I find an old credit card makes a good squeegee for my stainless steel stencils. Has a good sharp edge, is very stiff while able to give some bend under high pressure and doesn't scratch the stencil.
@sdevane75
@sdevane75 4 года назад
Brilliant. Great to see how this is done from start to finish!
@jerryschroeder3878
@jerryschroeder3878 11 лет назад
Thank you. I didn't know anything about reflow soldering other than the Gigabyte motherboard tour. This vid takes the mystery out of it and leaves no questions unanswered.
@Joru666
@Joru666 11 лет назад
This video is even more interesting than usual because I got the same hot air tool. Never did a stencil work nor did a whole board with reflow, just some single ICs. Thanks Dave.
@RelaxingASMR
@RelaxingASMR 10 лет назад
Interesting video. Great quality. Would love to know which camera you used?
@nicholasbrown8384
@nicholasbrown8384 5 лет назад
I can always count on you for these things!
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 11 лет назад
MANY thanks indeed for this - definitely one of my favourite of all your videos. There is something of doing a jigsaw, or building a lego kit about this surface mount reflow stuff. Please do more!
@Johnnii360
@Johnnii360 11 лет назад
Thank you, you show me to solder SMD parts. I finished my qualification as Industrial Electrician, Subject Area: Machines and System last Friday. The problem is SMD solder wasn't a part of content in the qualification, so I must catch up on myself. This video bring me a little bit closer to the SMD solder technique. :)
@XPLOREanXPLODE
@XPLOREanXPLODE 10 лет назад
Great video! Very informative, gonna try SMD soldering in the next time :)
@BillBaran
@BillBaran 9 лет назад
A wonderful series. Thanks so much!
@gerardcallaghan8431
@gerardcallaghan8431 9 лет назад
Very informative. Well done Dave!
@fumil4489
@fumil4489 5 лет назад
Thank you for such a good video with practicable details!
@henrikaleksandernilsen6388
@henrikaleksandernilsen6388 8 лет назад
I was told a story about a group of people soldering LEDs on boards for emergency exit signs. Someone screwed up on which way the LEDs go and placed it the wrong way, and everyone trusted that guy so they put them on the way he did. And no one paid attention, because they were busy talking about weekends and wife and kids and stuff. And it wasn't until the next day they realized that they have to throw away all the 5000 boards because the LEDs were put on the wrong way!
@cam3oh
@cam3oh 7 лет назад
Did you know that not all LEDs are put on with the same orientation? I discovered this when soldering on some various coloured LEDs some wouldn't turn on. I dismounted the non-working ones and tested with a DMU. Mind blown.
@magnuswootton7368
@magnuswootton7368 5 лет назад
electricity goes backwards.
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz 4 года назад
A place i worked had done huge capacitors backwards. They didn't spot that until it was powered. That woke up the dead.
@thoughts_empty
@thoughts_empty 4 года назад
@@dr_jaymz 🤣
@cesaru3619
@cesaru3619 3 года назад
@@dr_jaymz hah whta dvmb4sses, kaboom!
@Appvpro
@Appvpro 10 лет назад
Awesome ... thanks answered alot of my questions on solder masks
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
The titanium Centurion, or "Black" AMEX Card works the best!
@AidGear
@AidGear 7 лет назад
Great explaination. Thanks Dave!
@CAXRAMEDIA
@CAXRAMEDIA 3 года назад
A dramatic and emotional soldering video 😂 I want to cry happily to see it. we like your video. thank you for sharing
@clifforddicarlo9178
@clifforddicarlo9178 Год назад
Makes one long for the days of soldering vacuum tube-based circuits, Dave!
@pepe6666
@pepe6666 7 лет назад
damn dave this was a really great video. ive only just figured out what this wave soldering stuff was and i was looking for a start to end video and well look at this. solder mask and stuff makes more sense now.
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 11 лет назад
Very nice video quality, I can see the individual microballs of solder!
@kpopRC
@kpopRC 11 лет назад
quick question. can't seem to find this kit anywhere! is there a link where i can buy this same kit? or is it some limited production run.....
@AxelWerner
@AxelWerner 11 лет назад
just opened up a post on the beginners section on eevblog to discuss this further. you can see the surface resistance/conductivity there.
@electronichome1153
@electronichome1153 3 года назад
Still very good! Even in 2021. Thanks Dave!
@JordanEdmundsEECS
@JordanEdmundsEECS 7 лет назад
Awesome video, ready to do my own!
@kamranbaniensan
@kamranbaniensan 11 лет назад
Hi Dave, I love your program, relay useful for every one ,please keep going and make more and more video Thank's and have good job
@farhadomidvar2177
@farhadomidvar2177 3 года назад
Great tutorial! Exactly what I needed :)
@krist370
@krist370 11 лет назад
You can use old credit card or similar plastic or metal sheet to apply stencil paste. Also a thin squeegee from local hardware show will do job perfectly. It is important that edge is smooth and material isn't to flexible. I work with smd every day at my job. For printing stencil we use LPKF stencil printer for bigger series of boards, but for prototypes I just make frame like this one on video and I attach metal mask with some tape on one side to create sort of hinge.
@CyrusEpion
@CyrusEpion 5 лет назад
The paste issue you had with it not sticking onto the pads when wiping is due to the paste either being too warm or not kneaded enough. Knead it on an aluminum plate to where it becomes the consistency of peanut butter, for a few mins till it's very smooth, then apply it. But like you touched on, the paste should re-flow once in the oven too. Been an SMT Operator producing class 3 PCB's for a few years now, and always see this issue whenever someone doesn't prep the paste. It's awesome to see people producing PCB's right at home. Feel free to ask any other questions, love teaching and passing info to people who like to learn.
@NathanSweet
@NathanSweet 10 месяцев назад
With a syringe you can't mix the paste. I never buy syringes.
@CyrusEpion
@CyrusEpion 10 месяцев назад
@@NathanSweet Yeah that's true.. Plus whenever ordering paste online it's impossible to get it shipped cold. Warm SMT paste means the flux and solder balls will separate. Gotta mix it and when not using it, stick it in the fridge.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
I've done a tutorial on SMD hand soldering
@CanadianMang
@CanadianMang 11 лет назад
Very informative thank you Dave.
@kirkguille
@kirkguille 8 лет назад
Thanks, nice video! btw i'm having some solder bridges on the very fine pitch components, should i make the stencil holes smaller on certain parts of the stencil design? Because for example some big smd capacitors looks like they got too few solder, and at the same time, the fine pitch IC get solder bridges (like they got too much solder paste) after hot air reflow... Please help me... Thanks. :)
@xray364
@xray364 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. 2 questions come to mind. 1/. How did you work out the diagram for the LED had the cathode and anode back to front in the diagram. 2/. Do you concentrate the heat away from the heat gun the chop centre and concentrate more on the joints or are the chops usually able to withstand the heat
@VOVPro
@VOVPro 11 лет назад
Great video! Slightly prolonged, but has perfect PCB design! :)
@DDICyber
@DDICyber 9 лет назад
you can also use magnets to hold the stencil on place i used with reballing of cell phone chips it works greet i have under the boards also a plate for the magnets greets mmtpc
@mekbots7607
@mekbots7607 3 года назад
YOU ARE AMAZING ,MATE
@stefan7231
@stefan7231 5 лет назад
Whenever I'm soldering LED's, mostly in monitor backlight boards, I heat the borad from below so the solder melts before the temperature gets to the LED's.
@zytechnology
@zytechnology 7 лет назад
The WF24 Chip looks like it could use a little more love :) Thanks for the nice Video :)
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
Correct. It's also why the paste should be kept in the fridge, so the solder balls don't all fall out of being suspended in the paste.
@huxleypig5007
@huxleypig5007 10 лет назад
Great stuff, thanks mate! Bit of a sus edit just before the plug in tho!
@grantfielder
@grantfielder 11 лет назад
You should do a tutorial about the mounting and removal of surface mount electrolytic capacitors, great video btw :)
@grooeygroo
@grooeygroo 11 лет назад
Thanks very much Dave, I learned heaps! You explained the principle of solder masks really well, it was good to see it work.
@Dexter101x
@Dexter101x 8 лет назад
Thanks to all these videos, I am really interested in restarting my very old hobby.....#madscientist ensues
@mohamedelamin7487
@mohamedelamin7487 11 лет назад
nice video Dave ,what about using a low malting down Temp soldier paste I think it could reduce the over heat damages , does it have a disadvantages ? thanks
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
Yes. The syringe is the only type available at my local Jaycar store.
@rabone1963
@rabone1963 8 лет назад
Great video thanks for showing us all im trying to Reflow a mini USB
@CreatureOTNight
@CreatureOTNight 11 лет назад
Cooking with EEVblog and todays show "Reflowing".
@Razor2048
@Razor2048 11 лет назад
Great video. If possible, what are your thoughts on reflowing a BGA chip that has already been soldered in place (but one of the balls may not be making proper contact. (is there a limit to how many times you can re-reflow a BGA? )
@Nicksexploring
@Nicksexploring 11 лет назад
great video ..i never knew this technique existed..i learned something new!
@superdau
@superdau 11 лет назад
The flux is included in the solder paste. AFAIK that's the main reason for the shelflife and the time parts can be placed after applying the paste. The solvent of the contained flux will evaporate and the paste will go hard.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
I usually don't shake doing this stuff. It's the combination of the camera angles with the tripod in the way etc and having to stand up doing it reaching further than normal, and also talking at the same time.
@ynzeselders4184
@ynzeselders4184 2 года назад
if you apply the past in multiple passes it goes under the stencil edges and it ends up next to the pads, if you do it in one pass you get nice sharp edges. Might not be a big deal in some cases but when using IC's with very close pin spacing shorts will form between them.
@NathanSweet
@NathanSweet 10 месяцев назад
I don't find this to be the case when the stencil is taped down firmly and a metal putty knife is used. The main thing that leads to smeared paste is the stencil lifting slightly. Keeping it pressed down the whole time helps.
@mobile_deep_fix_finland
@mobile_deep_fix_finland 8 лет назад
hi! nice video! I Want to do that camera led light ring too as a practice. can you tell where I can order one?
@Jenny_Digital
@Jenny_Digital 11 лет назад
Just a quick note too all those keen on getting a reflow oven. I bought a cheapie from China and found it to be crap beyond use even. It was the T962 (not the A version). Get a good one, modify a toaster or whatever you need to do but don't get a T962 because you will have wasted your money. In the end the 858D+ I bought served me best. Cheers Dave by the way.
@memphetic
@memphetic 11 лет назад
For those who are looking for where to get stencils made, you can get great mylar stencils from Polulu for very small run projects or prototypes, then you can get stainless steel laser cut ones from QuickStencil when you're ready to move up. Good luck!! Also, look into building a reflow toaster! Super cheap and extremely effective!
@nextstorming3908
@nextstorming3908 8 лет назад
You sir just gained a subscriber
@-Moe_
@-Moe_ 7 лет назад
Awesome, thanks for sharing
@kewlbns69
@kewlbns69 10 лет назад
a few questions about this: how, if necessary, do you clean your stencils? is it good practice to do so? also if so how often should it be done?
@paulrmoss
@paulrmoss 11 месяцев назад
Really great video!!!
@AimSkyward
@AimSkyward 11 лет назад
Hey Dave, enjoyed the video, good stuff. Do you have any plans to do a blog on how to produce your own solder mask rather than have to get it done commercially. I produce my own PCBs but would like to put a solder mask on. Keep up the good work.
11 лет назад
Nice catch about oposite diode marking :D
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
Nothing, I just took out some extra dialog, it did work first go. I posted a preview of a longer version of this video on Twitter at first, it was 40min and probably has the extra dialog. This final edited version is 31min, so many more cuts.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 11 лет назад
The heat gun can also be a very ham-fisted tool, as can an uncontrolled or mis-used toaster oven.
@joaquinsanandreas3222
@joaquinsanandreas3222 8 лет назад
will it make any difference in shelf life if solder paste came in two package where the flux and solder come in two different container
@ObsoleteTechnologies
@ObsoleteTechnologies 8 лет назад
nice build.
@robertvuitton
@robertvuitton 6 лет назад
Can you use solder [not paste] over the stencil with a soldering iron instead? then remove the stencil to solder the components?
@TheDarmach
@TheDarmach 5 лет назад
What temperature are you using on this case? EDIT: Ah, just now I listened to the part at 24:10 .)
@NaokisRC
@NaokisRC 11 лет назад
Wow, really good stuff to know here especially if you're in the repair buiness
@ScramblerUSA
@ScramblerUSA 11 лет назад
I'd like to say this once again - it's a good practice to preheat the board from the bottom. In Russia we even used an iron sometimes (yes, the one your wife uses to iron the clothes). Just put it upside down, place the board on it and enjoy. Soldering is much easier in this case, because board doesn't take so much heat anymore. And the chance to overheat your chips is also much less now. Well, iron is weird, it's better to use IR heater.
@jonathanmlang
@jonathanmlang 11 лет назад
Just a quick question, how do you stop the solder mask from covering the pads?
@dukenerd6320
@dukenerd6320 6 лет назад
What camera you using nowadays Dave for your videos?
@rushikeshugale7776
@rushikeshugale7776 8 лет назад
great job
@devue4183
@devue4183 4 года назад
Where do you get stencils ? it's possible to find some stencils for a specific chips?
@simonspeaker
@simonspeaker 3 года назад
Proskit made one suction pickup tools that works with 1xAAA battery and works like a real charm ! ive been using it for a year and its awesome! its Pro'sKit MS-B126 and its 20$
@bcsupport
@bcsupport 11 лет назад
2:30 Dave did a magic trick !
@attilarivera
@attilarivera 4 года назад
Excellent!
@WayneJohnsonZastil
@WayneJohnsonZastil 11 лет назад
Great video very enjoyable to watch.
@JS-vk7ek
@JS-vk7ek 4 года назад
Hi, I've searched eBay and amazon for an hour now to find this kit, I would love to make it. Any links please. Thank you.
@glenwoofit
@glenwoofit 11 лет назад
Another great video...
@envisionelec
@envisionelec 11 лет назад
For the folks in the US, I found a couple tools that work very well for stenciling. The spreader is a Hyde 4” Flexible Joint Knife. It's got the right amount of "spring" to apply constant pressure and has a sharp edge. I use a Techni-Tool Spatula Part #: 758SO0026 to apply the paste evenly. I've assembled hundreds of boards using these two tools and they're as good as new.
@timothymasters4687
@timothymasters4687 Год назад
It seems you use two tools. One for spreading (Hyde 4) and One for smoothing paste evenly (Techni-Tool Spatula....). Is this a correct interpretation of your recommendation?
@ElectronicsPubVideos
@ElectronicsPubVideos 11 лет назад
Dave! BAD SOLDER JOINT on the middle pin of one of those WF24 chips!
@memphetic
@memphetic 11 лет назад
Absolutely - that's how I started out. It's pretty convenient to just pop them in, push a button, then out pops a properly reflowed part at a specified temperature profile. Just like baking cookies ^_^
@mariushmedias
@mariushmedias 11 лет назад
The solder paste has liquid flux in it, a lot of it actually. So no, no flux needed. In fact, the gradual increase of temperature, besides giving time to the pcb to warm up gradually and not crack or bend or whatnot, is also chosen in such as way as to give time to the flux to work on the surfaces for a few seconds before it boils/evaporates and the solder actually reaches the temperature needed to make the connections.
@duncanf6013
@duncanf6013 11 лет назад
Hey Dave where could one get a hold of this PCB to work on? Is it available for purchase on eurocircuits?
@rng8891
@rng8891 11 лет назад
Great Video!
@HeliEye
@HeliEye 11 лет назад
Neat and interesting Idea. I've always hand solder these tiny pitch chips, QFN's mainly. I just pre-tin pads, remove excess solder with home made silver plated desolder braid, place and align chip, spray contacts with SK10 solder flux, then run iron/solder down a whole row at a time. use the same silver plated braid on the soldered area to tidy up. result looks like a reflow job ;-) #Note: I don't use Toy soldering irons for this type of work, I use a Metcal MX5000 workstation. Steve
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 лет назад
i have that airgun its great, what paste is that m8?
@larsclausen3586
@larsclausen3586 3 года назад
Use the sticky part of a post-it to hold the smd parts easier to pick up with tweezers
@koldenrjk
@koldenrjk 10 лет назад
I assume you had the stencil made? For prototyping that can be quite expensive. I'd like to avoid that high cost ($125) each time. For production its worth it. Good video - thanks much.
@silentbob19861
@silentbob19861 9 лет назад
Nice video. One question is, how do you clean the stencil? I have some old stencils with dry paste in QFN pad holes...pain to clean them. Mylar ones I just throw away after every batch, but stainless steel ones are too expensive to waste. Maybe you have a good cleaning trick?
@TheSliderW
@TheSliderW 9 лет назад
i used to work during summer in a small electronics assembly company (not sure how to say in in English). Anyway, solder masks and dirty circuits were cleaned with a special solution and simple cleaning paper (large pinkish rolls). I believe the solution was some kind of alcohol but you can use anything as long as there are no residues left. Usualy, hot water is enough but can be corrosive to the pads if not dried correctly. If the paste has dried in the stencil holes, you want to wet them with some alcohol and use compressed air (pump or a spray) to clean them before using a rag with some more alcohol.
@onjofilms
@onjofilms 11 лет назад
One trick for shaky hands is to use one of those pano-vise. Clamp in your solder iron, tighten the nut just enough to move the iron with a little effort. Very stable.
@mindiravikishore
@mindiravikishore 8 лет назад
thanks once again
@yuppiehi
@yuppiehi 11 лет назад
I can't speak for the solder paste itself. But, things like glues, drugs and many other substances are designed to be maintained with consistent environmental conditions, in order to preserve and extend the potency of the substances. If the manufacturer said keep it under room temperature, first you have to define what room temperature is. Also, room temperature can change back and forth throught the days and weeks, which weakens substances. A fridge provides a consistent environment.
@Vermilicious
@Vermilicious 5 лет назад
Now that was satisfying to watch, despite the spatula. You don't have to be in contact with the solder paste. Couldn't see any smoke either, like from regular soldering. I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the preferred way of soldering, if it isn't already - even for hobbyists. I reckon you would need a bit more paste for through-hole components though.
@vpapanik
@vpapanik 11 лет назад
thanks for the nice video ! did the same on my channel a short time ago.
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