EFF denies corruption in VBS matter 

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He doesn't want to understand

And if it were u? Could u not take the money?

Is it the first time banks have funded a political party??

@@richardkamya4566 not unless I want to sit in jail for many years.

​@@gasisa78stupid question, like your Mpofu. They were not funded, they took a bribe, they stole from poor, rural, elderly and yes black.

Donations were given, agreed. Loans were given, paid back in full. ANC is implicated in getting billions from VBS. You concentrate on little millions instead of billions from the rolling party recipients.

Birds of the same feather…

The snake defender is the absolute worst.

No, the hypocrite is the worst snake, the one who doesn't say anything about phala phala, the one who doesn't acknowledge that there are 38 ANC members mentioned, the one who doesn't ask who funded CR17 campaign, names which have been sealed by the courts. Yet you want to make noise about a non-case.

Thank you very much for the words of wisdom!!!

The one in the middle.

EFF can not deny the fact that they got the money.

People also think that the money that was stolen is all money of individual depositors. That is not the case depositors ( identified ad poor people ) are about 30000 . The bulk of the money is Municipality money. The bank was a mutual bank and not a registered bank and by law municipality was not allowed to deposit in VBS. However through corruption by cbc and some municipal officials 15 municipalities deposited money in VBS. Northwest and Gauteng alone deposited R1.6 billions. The individuals ( poor people's) deposits, I believe is around R500 million.

​@@lylm4147when we mention poor people we include those municipalities because those municipalities are serving the previously disadvantaged areas.....that money is meant for the poor

@@lyma3880 that's true. But mos5 peoe think her a all peo4s deposits.

I am yet to find any poor people who have the capacity and capability to save money. How do you define poor people?

😅😅😅😅he is just emotional and embarrassed himself

He answered the question extremely well. You are just prejudiced, there's no crime in receiving a donation, just like Zille received money from the Guptas, Zweli Mkhize received through a different account.

So every political party that receives donations from banks do they have bank accounts in those banks???

@@theonly6359 thats not the point.. you are diverting.. does malema pay your food? everyone knows very well that malema and floyd are crooks.. thats why they call malema flip floper cos 1 day he shouts zuma must go then when som1 pays him lik vbs, he flips and twerks for zuma.. you guys are just sheep.. follow blindly.shame

Mr Machaka .. does it mean that the anc has been making decisions that are outside the bounds of law......now that you concede to apology for the anc?

He admitted loans given and paid for any donations. There is no crime in this. You don't understand the Law

Standard operating protocol - deny evade-evade dismiss "deed", that's how they roll.

All of them are the same to steal is their culture but this one is worse how can you steal from the poor

Corrupt EFF

nonsense

All politicians are corrupted

Well said

Ask matodzi

Doesn't Fnb donate? Whose money is it?

@@billyrajoo8076 cos it was not donation but a bribe

​@@richardkamya4566Investments, Off-shore, property Investments. That's how they make money. Giving.loans and collecting on interest dummy.

The audacity of these mafias😱

Did they extort the money?

He is using DA arguments, when they Justified donations from the GUPTAs.

@@vincentmothapa2421 what do you call a donation in 'return' for keeping silent about the Zuma loan?

@@vincentmothapa2421 definition of extortion "a practice of obtaining something, especially money through force or threats". Meaning without the threat of reputational and business damage by the EFF of VBS in the media the donation would have never taken place

There are 38 ANC members arrested in relation to VBS account, but you want to make noise about donations made to political parties.

Perhaps you should have added that while many people lost their money and life - many mansions. were built and many flights were made to Dubai and many blesse became instant tycoons - a sad reality

​@@Luwi-Molefe6850you have no shame and conscience.....we are talking about people who lost their lives and livelihoods here

@@nakedikhei7883 exactly and some are enjoying with these poor people 's money

@@Luwi-Molefe6850 it doesn't matter any person or parties must pay back the money especially for elderly people.

Exactly and they did not report the bribe attempt, they gladly accepted the money.

its just the next step, started with denying? now that they know the money trail will catch them, they try and say it is not a crime, their chickens are coming home to roost.

They must be held accountable. But by who? Malema is despicable!

Do you have proof? Dali gave clear that absa approached him, donation is it bribery? You need to learn and be wise not cover your thinking by foolishness.

@@seloaneronald2462 I have proof, a Leaked Affidavit by the Former CEO of VBS, Who said he Himself bribed Malema & Shivambu..... it was all over the News... Where have You been🤔

Shame on you who can't Juxtapose truth and propaganda.

Rubbish!

If it’s a donation to eff why did they not put this into the eff account?

Banks hold money from poor and rich people alike. Stop being silly

You can’t spin this story, even Zizi Kodwa would not have spinned it 😂

EFF will need a good lawyer, Dali would need to sit this one out.

bro did you read that affidavit your self or you just listining on what media saying.....?

Nonsensical

It's because you're so desperate for EFF and Malema to be found to have benefited/contributed to the collapse of VBS,I'm sorry to let you know there is nothing for EFF and Malema have done wrong.Why is it no-one is talking about ANC which benefited over 95% of the money from VBS.

@@chrissimende8167 so becos anc benefited, malema is not guilty? lol.. your guys behave lik malema pays your bills.. fact is, they are corrupt, they use their influence and flip flop to follow the money.. nobody is desperate, we want crook to go jail, thats all.. Pauli van Wyk and other journalists have no reason or time to personally follow malema and julius.. they are journalists

how so. as far as I am concerned he has been clarifying the legal issues around this issue. it's only people who wish that the EFF blemished. He has been explaining what constitutes a bribe vis a vis a donation.

​@@zamokuhllukhele3713true indeed my brother

No shame on you.

Public opinion is something one should respect but it does not mean everything said especially in the Affidavit is true especially if one seeks a lesser sentence due to compliance with the law enforcement agencies or the judiciary systems. Dali Mpofu is giving a version of what he knows happened, you have no right to accuse him of such you have uttered. Let the law take its course and justice prevail

@@mbonisemazibuko6746 the only justice is their slogan with red berrets and gumboots banging tables" PAY BACK THE MONEY" People say nothing about the poor people who were robbed

He doesn’t know the existing laws but he’s trying to create EFF and Zuma laws

Don't say we ntate please

I think you are an idiot, yes😂

​@@thabomonyamane3596I am included in that we ntate.

I don't understand. Black people must be held to high standards, but the rand are being openly manipulated, and yet we're quiet on this elephant in the room??

As always

yep, he does the same for zuma

@@maverickat4544 i think hes trying to seperate the EFF from the individuals.

And may may 77tswsr😊

I agree with you 💯

It's time now to investigate Ramaphosa and Motsepe about minerals and resources of South africa 🇿🇦 enough it's Enough

​@@donsolomon8501how😂😂😂

Leave the story of the poor alone - Where is the criminality here ? prove it -Stop the Emotional blackmail .

it’s already been proven by SARS that the money that went to sgameka coincidentally found its way to Floyd’s fnb private wealth account which he used to fund his 800k shopping spree in sandton with vbs shareholders money. The political muscle of the eff can indeed be bought , so much for a party that claims to be the antithesis of the anc when the only thing that has changed is the color of the uniform.

​@@norbertt.t6444you are on point

VBS was a bank. Many people banked there, not only the elderly. ABSA, FNB etc also donate to certain organizations, and people of different different economic standing bank there. You'll never hear people saying it's the money of the poor

VBS was a business wdym, they can give money to whomever they feel like it😂

You're just bitter bcz it doesn't go to your side 😂😂, again leaked affidavit can't be used to prosecute others.

Brother Eff never received money from Vbs but from Sgameka wena vafana

You are not stupid but you speak like one

So, over 2 billion was from poor gogos only? Think deep 😢

The honorable Mr Mpofu conveniently forgets that the other donors are not bankrupt due to looting.

@@vuyisileraymo2388 it's the circumstances under which the donation was made. Don't you think EFF took advantage of the precarious situation under which VBS was? Were they not supposed to consider the shareholders of that bank? They simply took advantage of the situation. Clear

@@Meths69 but what I am saying is that you cannot say that as the fact, it's accusations. By the way, the mainstream and independent media had a chance to address their concerns/accusations by Julius Malema and they could not find anything except that the bank card of Brian Shivambu was used where Julius Malema was. J. Malema did not deny that, it's just that people are still healing from self hatred thus, they don't listen and search for the truth for themselves 🙏🏿

Is mumbling nonsense bcs you hate, MALEMA and the party that is fighting monopoly capitalist simply bcs you are captured, as Whites fights one of your own, u'll help a white man, aoxam big English but slothful thinking.

U will be lost cz u never loved malema stop talking shit

There is Malema. ...then there is EFF

This bubbling lying lawyer whose business is to spin for all known thieves. He brings in irrelevant examples.

EFF is Malema?

@@LucasMoremi-nw7fg U love malema??🤣😂🤣😂😍🤩watch out ,his girlfriend shivambu will moer you🤣🤣🤣

Very true

If you have proof go and open a case, you have a right

EFF 4u

​@@Smn112there is a sworn avidavit.floyd and Jools is in consultation now with their lawyers 😅😅

our CIC has the RIGHT to use EFF money as he please. you just jealouz of his shoes & life! viva EFF!

@@lm_b5080 he is going to start wearing orange overalls. Why do you hero worship thieves? Africa will always be poor because you follow corrupt leaders.

Ask yourself about CR17 you will get your answers

@@pxskillionairesmedia6568 not about cr17 its about vbs must have the wrong case

Unless you have an LLB, your input is mute and this is above your head...

Yes he is the one who defending the thieves in this country that is why they are so defending of Zuma they each other who deed what that's why they drink tea together 😅😅😅😅😅

​@@thembadee2740 Who defends land thieves (DA) up to so far? The answer is 'ANC'!😊

​@@TshuTshi9642The DA never stole land.What land did you ever own that was stolen from you.None I presume,but you want land and don't want to pay for it.And let's get a valid point straight 99.9999% of blacks never payed for or owned land.

This not helpful unless you support it based on discussion. Which part you think Mpofu said Which is not making sense the guys challenged him? Let's support our points

So sad, I wonder what has he been teaching his kids....

But this "evidence" is not new, why must it be treated differently now as opposed to back in 2018 ? What changed ?

@@sisandamatomela3272 the affidavit you see is testimony to truth. Prior to this, the evidence was based of financial records showing transactions to various entities. As such, it left room for deliberation, conversation and altercation of truth. However, what the affidavit does is provide context to each of these transactions. The why, the who and the when. Without this context, VBS donations to a party is seen legitimate, despite the mechanism of transfer. However, now, with the affidavit we can't understand the context of the transaction. What essentially was done is VBS had paid "hush money" to EFF via Skamega. Why? Because they wanted the EFF to stop publically highlighting JZ's loan from VBS bank. In an attempt to hide the hush money, VBS had been instructed to falsify the contractual dates of the transactions to make it seem as if the transaction occured prior to the JZ loan scandal as to not draw a connection between money paid (donation) and the desired outcome (EFF no longer publically calling out JZs loan from VBS) This is the change. Because financial records were altered, the prior evidence falsified dates could not link the payment to an outcome. But now we can.

So Phala phala must be investigated cos they discredit Fraser

@@sisandamatomela3272 why was malema not arrested in 2018? thats the bigger question.. and it is different now becos now, its coming from the horses mouth, the man who was actually in the room and made the deals and also made the payments.. so we will now see a fight back from mpofu, malema and co, not in court, but in the media.. shout out journalists and whoever they can.. they want your support now..lol..but when eating money and in dbn july they didnt invite you.. hahahahaaaa

​@@sisandamatomela3272All truth, the real truth, will come to light in 2024.

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Dali the dummy 😂😂😂

Dali Mpofu is an educated fool

One thing that man does is keep a job. 😂

​@@dineshanpillay5944 The level of disrespect for an Indian illiterate calling a well known, reputable black Senior Counsel "dummy". Sit down and be educated.

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Malema van defend himself even without a lawyer have not seen how he devoured the gun strory😂😂😂

Did you vote for the EFF they care about those who vote for them you must continue voting for whoever

What does voting have to do with looting money from the most vulnerable​@@lefamaila2107

Exactly and it’s so funny people don’t see that

​@@sifisodube4686we are not gonna be dictated by you

Who is EFF

Since all major Commercial Banks are possessions of White monopoly capital that refused to play the game - the VBS was an accessible piggy bank to feed the greed of politicians - and the list is longer than you think - many of those luxurious mansions across the country could be attached if the NPA knows what to do

Was VBS a non-profit? And if it did make profits, why couldn't it donate to organisations it deemed to advance interests of it's constituency?

​@@molemorobiecos eff are corrupt just lik zuma

​@@molemorobie holy moly, it's a mutual bank, the owners will and shall always be the depositors. People defending the EFF are on drugs or they are crazy.

DA received money from the Guptas knowing Guptas were not commercial banks

So u mean bcos of that there's nothing to explain by eff leadership?

They hv even mentioned Dany Msiza and Florence from anc

​@@user-ux3zb5yo7m so arrest the EFFer and we will be happen and quieten done.

But they are arrested and they are facing the law, what about eff leaders ? They must face the law too

Exactly even the eff nd every 1 involve must face de law

Eff got nothing from the vbs mos wht you want him to say, you're just bitter bcz it doesn't go to your side 😂😂

@@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki What nonsense are you talking about? Are you saying Floyd and Malema don't represent the EFF? The issue isn't EFF per say, but their corrupt leaders.

You are just a dunderhead just like you newsroom who were very eager to show everyone that the EFF commited a crime but just to be disappointed that there is any crime here. Next time use you heads and not your ......🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@TlhalefangBenjaminMolelekiNo,they got money from VBS Dali says it was a donation.

@@doreenntuli7705 but there's no evidence that says eff got money from the vbs as donation, a just hearsay and again leaked affidavit can't be used to prosecute others.

They exactly thinks so and of which it is Not

Which politicians

obviously, thats why malema is called a flip flopper.. he flips to whichever side pays

it is just common courtesy and a note of gratitude, why would any party talk bad about a donor? Would you? Political parties depend on donations and not on membership fees. Get real.

@AbongileMafevuka 1stly, it was not a donation, but a bribe.. secondly, som of us knew long ago the malema can be bought, and this proves it.. stop diverting

@@AbongileMafevuka you get real. If I find out someone is corrupt and dodgy and I shout it from the roofs tops but then Myself and the person I was accusing of corruption “donates” money to me and all of a sudden the shouting stops and I no longer peruse the person in terms of pointing out their corruption do I not then become the one enabling the corruption?! I think you need to get real. Its ok to admit the EFF is pay as you go, though now that they lost support in the last election I think they’ll start sending a few more please call me’s 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@AbongileMafevuka Malema even said when they had their little investigation in 2017 “We have never been in communication with VBS” but now seems they met in person in Sandton. Gucci Freedom fighters that wear watches that Mr Johan Rupert sold them🤣🤣🤣 what a joke

Then eff has nothing to with it

@@abudlkader927 it will have to be proofed in court and I hope Dali will be there lawyer 🤣

​@@silaskhalishwayo🤦🏾‍♂️

Yep. The affidavit states that the money was a donstion to the EFF, but through an individual account. The EFF bosses did not want to give the VBS the EFF’s bank account. Why?

I am an EFF member but eish this one...is a steep mountain to climb....a donation paid to Sgameko for what🧐.... And if it's a donation why pay it on another bank account which doesn't belong to the organization the donation was meant for🧐.... Why did matodzi suggest a donation at the first place....after having met with our leaders who were vocal about a loan to former President Zuma. We just gave the da, ff+, afriforum and white people a silver bullet on a silver plate... I'm afraid we will go down on this one.

No, you simply want to believe what your head tells you. If logic serves you well, you'd know that R6 million is a drop in an ocean compared to R1 billion donated to CR17.

Why do you say so? I find his 3 main points valid.

No. You've just written nonsense.

He cursed when Mandela was serving he was busy with winnie 😅😅😅

@@WillamShauke oh please is that all you can say

I remember back then, Dali said that his sister gave him R20

He also needs to go to jail

​@@aarongunnz9513R20 that's nothing 😂

Where is he lying exactly...state which FACT he said that is incorrect ?

A bad liar at that

All politicians are liars

Ur a liar

I first saw that with apartheid criminals in SA.

Which? Good question They always deny

Which one is not corrupt??

​@nomalungelongcete5875 more so alway get away with everything then say "have I been found guilty " for you citizens to be calling us corrupt like any of them ever serve they time

And the poor vote for them 😢😢they love ANC their kids love EFF and they suffer the consequences year in year out😢

He is denying and deflecting. Defending Corruption 101

​@williemarthinus9619 Listen closely,understand and scrutinize .Do not deviate ..

@@vaeterua i don't deviate but the advocate who knows law doesn't answer relevant question instead he mention other individuals, companies etc.

Question is why is justice selective why not talk about those

Akere you ask for donation so what

@@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki 😂😂😂

It's because you have not studied law that's why you can't follow Mpofu's line of reasoning.To us lawyers, Mpofu is the most sensible of the three.

Sure, he said there's nothing new. Well at first no money obtained from vbs and now they got a donation. So what.

Dali Mpofu the people's advocate Cannot be confused I think u are😂

He’s a chance taker…

calm down judge😂😂

@@Blue_Rise 😀

​@@Blue_Rise Hahahaaaaa "judge"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Di wa makgolela

And matodzi said it was a donation

Again you guys are mixing up the whole thing as a result of the propaganda by Pauli

Pieter Groenewald wag Vir hulle

​@😅aarongunnz9513

The problem are people with weak minds like you first 6 Millions is nothing to 1billion doneted to cr17 the problem is not vbs gogo thing the problem is the land issue eff got nothing compared to what other people looted and I m happy that they himself said it that it was a donation and a loan so it's up to you how you take it yes vbs should collapse so that nextime if black wants to start their bank they should us vbs as an example

If I steal money & go buy food at Pick & Pay must P&P return it because it’s stolen? Which law is that? Please point me to it.

​@@mfundimkhize3137i can tell you are part of the 9% idiots who voted for EFF😅

Why should he reveal the amount. It was a donation we have to learn listen. Why not accused the anc guy .

Why don't you ever ask the ANC and DA the amounts and donations they receive? Hypocrite!!!

@@Luwi-Molefe6850 wena go home

@@Luwi-Molefe6850 Anc is implicated! This was a donation using and bankrupting black African pensioners! Ask the pensioners if they don't need to know who stole their money! Africa will never be a prosperous country because people like you hero worship corrupt leaders and the more they steal from you the more you worship them.they know they are leading fools

Go thata banna we 😮😮😮

The affidavit of Mr Fraser had evidence, but this affidavit of Matodzi doesn't have evidence. We have seen before the affidavit of Mentor and Jonas comes without evidence and never stood. But you will learn and start to jump one day. Furthermore the Phala Phala will be back and tested in Court and you will see how powerful is the affidavit with evidence.

Wait is this on leaders or on the party itself? Im confused

Yooh

Will your wife be available as a witness in court or has she reported to the relevant authorities? - I know that the state pays lip service to whistle blowing

Neh haa haa😮

@@nellysitshinga4535 eish don't put engkinge zee Eff

Why would you place your wife in danger 😢? What if they come after her ? Is she willing to be a witness?

True

Really? OK.

True

Then why not say in the affidavit, I bribed eff or eff asked for hush money. Why not write it plainly in an affidavit that is implicating the eff?

Why hasn't the law enforcement charged the EFF leaders, bcz this thing been going on 4 years 😢

Did you call for Marcus Josster to go to court for scandal of GEPF buyer's call for phalaphala too

Some people are just too gullible, are you a lawyer?

Just drink black label you'll be fine we understand😂

​@@biko8229 Are you? Don't have to be a lawyer to know a lie!

Stay focused delinquent, this video is about the vbs looters​@NokuthulaKhumalo-sb2le

Xoli has been schooled numerous times by the eff. Infact he trends for that only.So he knows better 2ndly, Mpofu correctly spoke to what was said in the affidavit and not unbiased interpretation and speculation which then answers why The EFF was never charged. Remember Floyd's borther was already in court, it would have been an easy case for the NPA. 3rdly SACP asked for money, EFF was offered a donation as per the affidavit.

@@andrewsidelo8221 Watch this space. The wheels of justice turn slowly. Now the accusations can't be ignored by NPA and high powered politicians. 😉

​@@ShawnRademeyer to black people 😂😂😂😂white can do whatever

So he was supposed to do what, call Adv Mpofu on Studio and then stop him from speaking?

@@ShawnRademeyer did you even listen to Mpofu explain how this works legally? Take off ur I hate EFF for a second. 1. Unlike other political parties, he offered donations to the EFF, not illegal. 2. Supposedly there was a bribe, the affidavit was made with a plea deal in mind and not from a reliable source.NPA will do favors for ANC BUT NEVER EFF. NPA could have long charged the eff but they have no evidence. An affidavit from a plea deal is not credible evidence.

@SMWX went AWOL... 😅

He answered why money was directed through the brother of Floyd, that was a loan to the brother not to the EFF. Listening is a skill mate.

@@XPR2019 Absolutely, but so is contextual understanding and nuance ...

😂​@@audreycornelius2231

Yes, listening is a skill and not selective listening. people's hate for EFF is astounding. When CR 17 1 billion donation is not sent and subjected to public scrutiny it's okay but if it's EFF offered donation it becomes a crime because it went via Shivambi's company bank account. Double standards of note.

Welcome to the white collar crimes, using legal ways to steal

He definitely benefited too

A scammer turned lawyer

Doesn't seem like you heard a word that was said in this video, shem

Wowwww malema and shivambu say they never sat with the man,this advocate is turning things around, like the toy gun story,we not all gullible 😂😂😂

Q simple question......what a question

Why didn't you arrest Phala Phala also?

Wow so nice, 😂😂😂😂

But they cannot find ur crook president of the country guilty

How do you disclose a loan from your friend? Ethics rules only state that a donation should be declared not a loan.

@@Olcool hey wena you living in denial, you think we all stupid,

R180 000 appears from that network of money to cover their corruption

Bro, this guy is terrible. That is why he is always losing. He is always failing to compile an argument

@@aobakweCup326D It's so bad. The guy sitting next to him is more compelling than a whole advocate? Nah, he's a scam.

​@@ohonefmwhos scam?

@@aobakweCup326Dexcept that he is considered by his peer in the legal profession as one of the best legal minds this country ever produced.

When you are lying and knowing that you are lying it's difficult to be consistent....and confidence dololo

dali always seaks gibberish and attacks journalists.. that should say it all