Effect Pedals I Stopped Using 

Found myself liking every single pedal featured in the video, but that divide between a gear collector or a dabbler with a lot of disposable income, and a working musician who often has to be more pragmatic in their approach what they use and what they keep is undeniable. The MS-70 would scratch 90+% of any of my musical itches as a casual dabbler who listened to a lot of shoegaze music.

..i fully am with you !!.. in 10 years i have bought hella lot of pedals and ditched, sold, gave away ALL of them. !!..i limited myself to the sound I WANT for my music and eliminated any that didn't fit my SoundVision...i am down to maybe 6- 7 pedals i MUST have AND USE on my pedalboard...great video..i LOVE ALL your worthwhile presentations...god luck buddy. !!

Never sell an effect. Unless you need food. You'll want them and they wont be there

Love my Supernatural Reverb - the Plate setting is fantastic

Josh is a pedal maker so makes sense he collects them. Nice content man!

I keep my supernatural reverb at my studio, and use my ms 50g live to recreate it’s ambient soundscapes live/rehearsals. Lovely pedal, but the zoom ms series are AMAZING

i remember being undecisive on my first reverb. i was between the supernatural and the RV7. because and it's funny that you mentioned the longdecay 'cause it was also one of my requirements. in the end I ended up going for the RV7, for including the reverse and the gated reverb for glide/spooky weird tone i still have it and i never regret having decided on that one. although in the future i would like to acquire the supernatural too. i currently use the RV7 in gated mode and combine it exactly with particle reverb from ms50g to give longspace reverse + shimmer effect with my squier jaguar. i find it funny and great at the same time that you choose exactly the same thing that interests me. it always inspires me and i notice new details, such as the difference between the gated of the digiverb and the hardwire, because i had not noticed that "gated" sound... now i feel like i need it urgently haha i do not have the digiverb but i have tried it and had the same appreciation only with the difference on the reverse reverb that the oscillation was softer on the digiverb than on the RV-7. a big greeting kenneth. i follow your channel since a lot and had never left a comment on your channel, so it's my first :} (i'm pretty bad at talking and commenting, but when i do i express a lot haha) P.S: supernatural reverb = cocteau twins hardwire RV-7 = mbv

The Supernatural is, ironically, prized for its vintage-correct spring and plate settings. Tweaked to perfection by the one and only PGS/Reverb Andy.

love the channel dude, thanks for the info and music. peace from Norway.

Dude you read my mind, I was considering buying an ibanez for shoegaze now I see you playing it. Sounds awesome.

i loved this examination. thank you for taking the time and effort to explain what, why, and how. for me, i have a mix of old/obsolete gear (SP-202, QuadraVerb GT, JamMan Stereo), modern and multi-functional boxes (Specular Tempus, Alpha Haunt, Oceans12 ), and some stuff that seems so deep that i'll never fully understand, no matter how deep i may dive (Pladask Matrise, Roland TR-6S). honestly, the real problem is this: i feel that i've developed relationships with all of this tech, and to let them go would be unwise and short-sighted. it's likely illogical and unhealthy, but it is what it is. my solution was to get a shelf and grab the boxes i need in the moment for the project at hand. liked/subscribed

Recommendation for a delay to check out Kenneth: Keeley ECCOS. It has presets, tap tempo, a looper, ext input, it's stereo and can create crazy modulated delays. A pedal I might want to get rid off: the Boss PS-2. Just didn't bond with it, find it unpractical and don't like the limited pitch shifting options. Want to replace it with the ehx Pitchfork for bass emulations. Nice vid again!

The Flashback II seems cool, if you have the chance to try it maybe you can get nice delays from it!

Good topic, Kenneth - you haven’t lost any Shoegazer cred 👍 I ditched my Whammy also for the power supply reason. I DO want to GET a 70CDR!

I recently just got a zoom. Man they’re good! My friend Gabe has a fantastic band called lowtide and an incredible guitar sound and he recently switched his massive pedal board for 4 zoom cdr’s playing into 3 different boss katana amps. I couldn’t believe the guitar still sounded the same as the recordings

I love using my walrus slo and have just started messing around with a keeley realizer. Some has probably already said my the EHX Canyon is pretty solid man.

When you played the lead part of Trauma I got too excited

Your videos are fun & well-made. Also enjoy your personality & vibe. 🤘Keep your ears open & your heart kind, buddy!

Got a Supernatural as my first reverb pedal around the same time as you, and really loved it. I wasn’t much into the soundscape thing at the time though, and all the sounds on it are a little too much, so I sold it when they started getting expensive. Regret dumping it, wish I still had one. I have “nicer” reverbs now I guess but it was the loss that now makes me keep every pedal I have unless I reallllly don’t like it lol.

As hesitant as I was to buy one...I have to say the EQD rainbow machine (I bought a used one) is phenomenal for the shimmery stuff. Magic button aside, (which is what scares some people off) the modulating pitch shift, and reverb effects are all very very usable..without ever engaging the magic button.

I sold the Digitech digiverb in order to get an MS70CDR. I wanted a Hardwire Reverb, but it was your channel that made me find out the 70CDR had a reverse reverb too

Vox delay lab is pretty great. Very underrated. Traded a dl4 for one about 5 or 6 years ago and that was a good trade haha

I just Bought a Zoom MS70CDR and I'm Loving it!!!

I got the Line6 DL4 after the Minus The Bear rig rundown, but I got rid of it because the build quality is poor and the delay time moves in small steps instead of continuously. I’m surprised no one notices that last part.

I sold the Cathedral reverb, The Memory Man with Hazzari, Line 6 M13, Hardwire RV7 Reverb.

I also had a polara, but sold it to but the walrus audio descent, because I really wanted presets, and I'm really happy with it!

i bought an electro harmonix ripped speaker fuzz. it is good on guitar, but the behringer super fuzz sounds good on bass and guitar (and costs less). I am keeping it for now just because it can do a glitchy low battery sound that i like

i just bought the oceans 12 from ehx. the reverse and shimmer settings are awesome, and there's a ton of versatility. it's a bit smaller than a memory man, so it takes up a bit more space than a regular pedal, and i also have to use an external power supply due to its power consumption, but that isn't so much of a problem for me. might be worth looking into though. also thanks for the videos and pedal recommendations, you've helped me discover a lot of my favorite pedals :)

Guys, the Digitech Whammy 5t Gen has a 2.1 DC plug connector also comes with MIDI in. The only downside I see is the size of the pedal, not an issue though if you have a big pedalboard or if you rig is minimal as the one used by Tom Morello.

Interesting video, I still love the Loomer. Would love to see you try out the Eventide Black Hole pedal.

have you heard of the nux time core deluxe? it's a really cheap (around 60 usd) stereo delay pedal with a ton of really rad features. tap tempo, reverse delay, preset saving, a weird glitchy looper thing. i think it would be up your alley!

I have to admit, I sold my MS 70 CDR last week (along with a bunch of other stuff I don't use anymore). I still think it's a great pedal, but it's very noisy in my setup. Still, I'm so glad I had it while I did. I learned so much about effects and how to chain them with that pedal

I love my DT - but it IS huge and needs its own supply. I actually leave it off my board, and sometimes just put it next to it if I want to incorporate it into my sound.

The Boss DD200 is a really good delay that covers all the bases, though it's a bit big, mine didn't stay because the Echorec emulation only managed 3 playback heads. You could have a look at my favorite delay the Boonar (from Dawner Prince) though with the swell up it gives a fantastic wash across everything (but maybe a little too 1986 for your needs)

I had the Elected Harmonix Good Vibes and got rid of it because it required outs original power supply. However it sounded so good, and I couldn't replace it. So I got it again.

if line6 added a reverse reverb to the hx stomp it would be a real contender for best all in one solution, ive been bugging them to do it for a while now not sure if it's grabbed any of their engineers attention

I sold my Boss RV-6. The reverb was too thick for my instrument, and w/o pre-delay, I discovered, my harp got buried in the verb. Great reverbs in the box, but no pre-delay? nope.

For me I think that Zoom and the presets people have shared will do the job. I am looking at the HX Stomp and I cant justify $700. I'd also like an M5 only for the particle verb - but guess what? The Zoom MS has a copy of it. Loving your videos!

Searching for more glitchy pedals, i've found that the Vox dynamic looper is great but, implies to use the looper for the majority of the great effects. Vox Delaylab enters in the "timestretching" zone using the Early reflections effect. Roland VT-3 can be used on guitar too, the "Scatter" effect does it more interesting. In the territory of microlooping like the Boss DD-5 does, the behringer's dd100 and dd40 can do it, Digitech Digidelay too, and may be a few more (EHX Canyon, DOD PDS series)... Boss PS3, Boss RV-3 and Marshall Echohead approaches to doing glitches/timestretching by tweaking knobs. Another interesting effect for soloing used by Adrian Belew, it can be achieved using a Digitech Harmonyman, but that idea was implemented later on the Digitech iStomp "Impossible pedal", i think it can be done with Behringer US600 and alikes (Ricochet may be). On the other hand i found interesting some racks, like Boss SE70, Roland SRV 3030/330, Digitech IPS33B, Alesis Quadraverb, Lexicon Vortex, and Yamaha's A3000 (this is really great)/4000/5000, may be Ensoniq DP-4 and Sony DPSV77 has potential for glitching and ambient generators. And for Bitcrushing Alesis Ineko, Mooer Lofimachine, Dedao Pixel can do it greatly. And for weird envelopes Digitech Synth wah, EHX Tube zipper, Subdecay Noise box are really special. In another investigation i've found that the Korg SQ-1 works really great for glitches like Autechre does, in combination with Boss RPS-10/RSD-10, may be Marshall Echohead, Boss PS-2, and Boss DSD-2/3, or Line6 M5. Aside all the mentions, Digitech Turbo flange, Digitech RP360XP, Catalinbread Csidman, Boss GT-001, EHX Hazarai, Mooer Reverie chorus, EHX Flanger hoax, Line6 Dr Distorto can create super wild noisy and stuttery textures, but i'm trying not to mention boutique stuff.

I used my Supernatural for years. It lived in my main board for over 6 years then migrated to my acoustic board. The Plate verb on it is one of the nicest in the biz and the Spring is great. The extra settings are mostly usable if you don't mind reaching for the knobs. I went midi. Nightsky and Volante have everything I need + ,and setting/accessing presets is easy. I try to hold on to my old pedals. There still cool, I kinda collect them like stamps or coins. I still use my old DOD 747 Supersonic Flanger, it sounds great!

Btw I got the digi tech hot rod for it’s fuzz feature that I saw on one of your videos. It’s An amazing pedal...another keeper...so thanks!

I recently bought the Ms 70 cdr trying to get de Nux modforce and the nux Timeforce I don't have my guitar with me and I'm gonna try the pedal in less than a week, it is good? Cause i dunno

I've tried a couple Klon Centaur clones, and they just don't sound good in my setup. The first one I got was a straight Chinese bootleg, so I assumed that was why it didn't sound very good. So then I got a different one that people assured me was accurate to the real circuit, and it sounded more or less the same as the bootleg pedal. I don't think it's the pedal's fault, per se, I think it's just something about my rig or how I play that the pedal just isn't working for me.

Kenneth, I am curious about what you kept en ditched 2 years later (after your puchase of a HX Stomp as a I recall). Is there still a place for some small pedals in your work ?

I know Zoom MS-70 can handle up to 6 effect, and I eventually hacked it to load amp simulators on it but I can't use more than 3 effects in some cases when I use it with an amp sim because the system doesn't hadle. Does the same thing happens for MS-50? I mean, does the MS-50 can handle more processing capacity?

I had a Mooer AnaEcho, loved it, so i wanted to take the next step and bought an ehx memory man. Didn't fit my sound at all, sold it and bought the mooer again

If you’ve tried it, I’m curious what you think of the Alesis Wedge. Though it’s a tabletop unit, it does have all those “original” shoegaze sounds you discussed in the video - reverse, gate, and bloom reverbs with stereo capability - and it’s relatively small and light. (But you might not be interested in its dedicated power supply.) Regardless, I’m interested in your thoughts about it. Also, for pitchshifting delays, the new Eventide Micro Pitch might be an option for you.

The canyon by EHX or the flash back might be an upgrade from the multistomp for delay. Maybe also check out the Grand Canyon by ehx but that might be more expensive than you want. I personally use the regular canyon and it’s really great sounding pedal and the secondary setting are nice.

I am considering to buy the ms70cdr because I think it serves the purpose of what I want from a pedal, which are modulation, delay and reverb. I know there is a lot of pedals to get dual delays, delay and reverb and modulation. But as for now, only the ms70cdr, in compact pedal size, has modulation, reverb and delay, in one pedal, at least the only one I know. Please tell me if you know other options just for me to consider. If not, than I will definitely buy the ms70cdr. Thank you!

Hardwire by DigiTech RV 7 - Stereo Reverb Pedal has "Lexicon Reverb's" (I'd have had-a-hard time, parting with that one). I'm currently using a Fender Spring Reverb (always-on) and a Big Sky for pads & special effects. Delay Recommendation: my massive-search-ended with the Boss DD-500 (it can do anything & everything).

still love my korg sdd 3000. it's got the same footprint as the vox, it's kinda big. also the line 6 M9 has a ton of good FX, it's old but so am I. also, in the closet is a yamaha magic stomp, some great FX on that as well

7:43 for what you use an Extern Midi Switch with the Zoom CDR 70?

I agree with the Vox Delaylab, I really like it but it's heavy that's why I sold it.

Hi, I don't know if it's too big for your pedalboard but I love my boss dd20, it has tap tempo, presets, beautiful sounds (I love the mod and the tape delays), it's built like a tank and it's cheap (more or less 100 euros)

Did you try the regular digitech whammy? I have the regular(not DT version) Whammy and I never had issues with power.

Brilliant !!! Thank you for assuring me that even with budget friendly pedals I can get the sound's I need for the music that I make ,,,I also have the ms 70 and allthough I'm not a collector ( WISH I COULD BE ))LOL ,,,, IM an advid fan of anything pedal related,,,thanks again ( I also just subscribed to your yt channel )

Anyone looking for (or trying to decide between) the Zoom MS series pedals might want to instead try to see if they can find a used MS-100BT at a good price instead. The MS-100BT came out at the same time as the others but was the 'deluxe' version and had the largest amount and variety of included effects in addition to the ability to purchase and add new ones via USB or a bluetooth phone/tablet app. I spent more than a few dollars loading mine up with additional sounds (ok, fine, there is already an Echoplex model that comes standard in the MS-100BT, but there's another, slightly different one in the store as well. Clearly I needed both). The additional effects were not expensive (if I remember correctly, $1US for effects and either $2 or $3US for amp models) but the best part is that when they discontinued the MS-100BT they made all of the additional effects free of charge so you can now just load up whatever you want. Also, the MS-100BT has stereo inputs and outputs and (I believe) the largest memory capacity of the MS series. Of course, if you cannot find one on the used market then the MS-70CDR is an excellent choice when paired with the secret software mentioned at the end of the video. You will most likely not mistake the sound of the Zoom MS series with the equipment that it emulates if you put them side by side with the originals and A/B them in a controlled environment but in a loud club, concert hall or even rehearsal at full volume (or, alternately, in a full mix if you are using it for recording) you will almost certainly not be able to tell the difference and the average audience will not know the difference either (nor will most care).

Hello! Now with the release of the new MS50+, do you know/think the ZOOM effects manager hack will work between the original MS and the new MS+ effects? Cheers

What are you using to control that MS70CDR through midi?

Very cool!

The Timebender is the best pedal ever. It's a box full of joy and surprises. I'm glad I've got two of them.

Hi, where can we find your music? Looking forward to it!

Pls ,could you make a video how to use extern midi switch for zoom ms- 70 CDR?

i had a zoom in like 1999 or 2000 multi fx .. it worked great .. had delay and chorus etc

the joyo aquarius is my must use delay, its very cheap for a pedal that does as much as it does.

My first pedal flip was the Source Audio C4. I was so pumped to get my hands on one and try out some cool synth sounds. Instead, I nearly blew out my ears with some awful user patches and listened in horror at the presets that were unusable for me. Not to mention the software interface that made no sense and lack of explanation by SA or any RU-vid users on how to navigate it. I've never been happier to resell a pedal.

Im always selling stuff. Right now I’m using a line 6 helix. I run a bossfz2- keeley realizer -op amp big muff into helix. In the FX loop, I have a nuenaber immerse mk2.

Big love the zoom... also i really like to have one day the Timebender and the Delaylab, but my favorite is the Boss PS3. Also doing research for using a boss ps2 as a noise machine. Somewhat i like the Digitech polara for the reverse, but with the Zoom is enough.

I gave up all of my pedals after acquiring the HX Stomp lol. Great drive/dist/fuzz, modulation, pitch shifting, and delay selections, decent reverbs(new ones just came with an update, more to come). might pick up the Poly Beebo tho

I know it’s an old video however do you use the Microcosm

What midi device/pedal do you use to control your Zoom?

Afterneath v3 by eqd, it was a great pedal but really underwhelming. Got a mr black bloodmoon to replace it and I absolutely love it! Sits great in my chain with my keeley loomer and walrus slo.

Does anyone know how to still switch patches on the Zoom MS50 while being able to toggle the current one on or off.

great video idea, happy owner of a dozen cool effects...always delighted, never sold one...idea for a delay... why not hungry robots, obne, mooer, dba minidelay??

Used to have the Zoom CDR sold it as I eventually owned Strymons. Another big one for me was going from Strymon rig into H9, Zoia, Beebo modular effects pedals And now all back to Strymon. And decided to make it all as Strymon board I’ve switched into using Strymon Riverside in place of my Jackson Audio pedals and Origin Effects. 🤣

I also got rid of my Keeley Loomer recently and replaced it with the Beautiful Noise Effects Endless Sleeper (dual delay). The Loomer is a great pedal, but it kind of is a one trick pony (despite all the options) and I never felt that either side was all that awesome on its own and it never seemed to play well with other pedals.

You’re Zoom hack video bordered on genius & crossed over a few time with your humor. Well done dear brother! Cheers to a job well done and to zooms classic underrated pedals! I didn’t know it was you when I saw somebody criticizing the zoom pedal because I thought it was on the list of pedals you don’t use but I think you really should use that pedal for experimentation on your normal set up but I guess you have tons of petals. What do you find the best as far as all in one small footprint, multi effects?

I would like to buy and stack 2 zoom multistomp (a 70cdr and a 50mg), do you think that this will "suck"/ruin my tone?

I like gated fv-1 reverb

Man i wish i could find an ms50g, i wanted to buy it for christmas but i couldnt find it below 100 bucks.

TC Flashback triple delay is Huge, but can midi clock synch to other gear and you can some magical ambient vibes with this pedal by itself. Not sexy, but I haven't found anything that threatens to push it off my board despite wanting something cooler.

I have the Supernatural and will never sell it. The plate mod setting alone is worth it. I get what you are saying, tho, and used prices have gotten ridiculous. I am considering adding the newer Flamma reverb pedal for general use. I have the Zoom 50G and find it a bit fussy to use. I know it can do a lot but I might switch to the CDR moving forward. RE: delay, I just picked up the Flamma mini analog delay with two echo options for $36. Nothing fancy, but it's tiny and adds just enough character to the signal chain that I think it is a keeper. As always, good video with clear, well-thought out explanations!

I stopped using all my other pedals once I got an MS-50G!

DOD Rubberneck delay - Cheap and very good.

Digitech Timebender is G.O.A.T.

The Alesis MIDIverb IR link says "You need access Request access, or switch to an account with access"

Great stuff. *hits subscribe* I dig your humor. I agree with the Vox Tonelab; great pedal but too big to be on my pedal board. I use a Boss TeraEcho for trails, a Sib Mr Echo for the warmth, Keeley Caverns 2 and Keeley Heinzman Trem o Verb. The Caverns has the shimmer reverb and delay...the Trem o Verb has the plate reverb and harmonic trem I like. My secret echo weapon is the Catalinbread Echo Rec. All of the Binson Echo Rec sounds and none of the costs and breakdown of analog tape. Shhh get one before it goes all Klon klowntown that is eBay. So yeah with currently multiple delays means no room for Vox even if it's sound is great. I am a collector so I'll use it in studio with double tracking some ambient harmony or counter point. I also agree with your take on the Loomer. It's not the greatest reverse swell but it's the fuzz that's just not to my taste. Way too muddy to my ears but if that's what ppl like...w/e. Also Not to my taste and got replaced: Sib Nick Nitro fuzz...replaced by Black Arts Tonework Pharoah Fuzz....then that replaced by Way Huge Fat Sandwich then...finally Catalinbread Sabbra Cadabra. Boss SD1 gone...became a Waza Blues Driver BD2... now Jhs Boss Angry Driver. Jhs Ehx op Amp w/ It's the Great Smashing pumpkin/Charlie Brown eye mod (kidding)...gone Replaced with Jhs Moscow Mule modded EHX Green Russian big muff. Even EHX English muffin with actual tubes...just not to my liking. Jhs EHX soul food meat and potato mod replaced with JHS superbolt. So yeah it's a pattern and constantly changes. I'm a JHS fanboy here too. And running stereo is crucial to me with out wet dry set up into Roland JC 120 and Orange Dark terror into a 4x12 with Celestions. Six speakers of push that cannot compare to pc monitors. It's loud but that what attenuation is for. Cheers from Detroit... Where every day is a lost reverb trail... Into the dead city. Brian

I still loved my ZOOM MS50g that i changed the version to which i can use efx from zoom g1on,zoom b1on,zoom ms60b,zoom 70 cdr,..wow! Most if not all,in one..🤭👌

Check out Digit/Beebo from Poly Effects. A modular pedal with almost unlimited possibilities for experimental signal chains - it could replace half a dozen of your current pedals (like a Multistomp on steroids).

mooer ocean machine, you should try it

what song were u playing for the midiverb demo? sounds great

Digitech has got to be my favourite. I sold a Boss rv6 to buy a Polara, I have the Digidelay, TurboFlange, Metal Machine and the Merzbow pedal, I have the DS-1 clone with the tricked out eq, I was about to buy the TS clone for the same tricked out tone. Josh Scott went and educated folk to the delights of the feature set and tone shaping capabilities. Boom, big price hike. I went for a Demon fx, it switchs between the two classic circuits and has the Keeley moddded, brighter eq, stands out well in a mix. The original is dark, great for doomy stuff.

I started reusing my old Gen 1 Whammy pedal with my Bass rig. Some of my unused pedals I trade with my homie and we record synth stuff with’em.

I wanted a Keeley Caverns for some time, and when I got it, I was very inspired cause it was one of my first pedal. But with time I realized something for of to me, and the more I played with the more I found it kinda "meh" in the end. Don't get me wrong, the pedal is awesome ! Just not exactly for me. And I had the oppurtunity to trade it with a EQD Avalanche Run, and now the AR is one of my fav pedal ever ! Also, another sad pedal story: I recently bought a compressor, and I found the Fairfield Circuitry Accountant for cheaper on the internet, so I wanted to try (since it has good reviews) but it makes my amp overdrive, and I just don't like the way it colours my sound. I still have it, but I'll probably change it for something like the Mooer Yellow Comp

You can hack any of those Zoom pedals to be any zoom pedal you want.

Try the Caline. Snakebite. I like it. Cheap too

i had a bigmuff, whammy iv, digitech badmonkey, tc nova repeater, digitech jamman, korg ax3000g a behringer delay i dont remember and a behringer v-amp . all of them i had to sell at various points of my life due to being poor/homeless. now i have a digitech death metal and zoom g1on wich is exactly as the ms50g but in a plastic enclosure and is way way cheaper

How does one get your Dream Pop patches for the Zoom MS70?

I regret selling my Boss PS2, it was a long time ago, i can't remember if i sold it to buy a whammy or a rat, that I regret selling to buy a fulltone fat boost II, that I don't regret selling to but a pdf-2 that is now my always on pedal.

3:31 reminds me of some tunes from Cocteau Twins.