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Effects of Performance Enhancing Drugs with Tyler Hamilton 

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Former USA Cycling competitor, Tyler Hamilton, discusses his introduction to performance enhancing drugs and the psychological impact and struggles that he experienced as a result.

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@noeldavis618
@noeldavis618 2 года назад
Tyler was my favorite cyclist early in his career. When I found out about his doping I was 18 and I was completely crushed. I think he has shown the most transparent, honest, and humble response to the sick world that was/is professional cycling. And the truth had huge consequences for him. I respect him immensely. I wish him all the best.
@sasquatchrosefarts
@sasquatchrosefarts 2 года назад
There have been electric motors for two decades that can be hidden in a bicycle. One positive. In twenty years. 50,000 inspections, and zero positives from inspection before or after races. One rider got caught from an infrared camera. Think about that. Every single world tour rider uses electric motors. Nearly every race. Every race is rigged for market share. I don't even think pharma is effective, but electric motors are everywhere and cycling became nascar or formula one. It's all rigged. To the last race. The only ones that aren't rigged are the mixed pro/amateur races. It's always been the case that random amateurs can show up for mixed races in early season and beat pro riders. Why? Because there are amateurs that are better than pro riders. Same for every sport. Go play pickup soccer and you see so many players who are better than pro.
@704JOE
@704JOE 2 года назад
WHY WAS YOUR HEART BROKEN......90% OF THEM CHEAT
@tiberiufilipas1487
@tiberiufilipas1487 Год назад
@@704JOE not 90% but all of them used PED. Nobody can literally survive that war in the tour. Being so close to die and that imense suffering is enough to make all of them not guilty!!! Those seating comfortably in front of the tv watching the show should keep their mouth closed in front of these monsters of sport and extreme suffering and pain. Regarding this Tyler he is still crying like ...sy after all these years. A true chicken!
@704JOE
@704JOE Год назад
@@tiberiufilipas1487 OK NOT 90%..............BUT MOST OF THEM......I STAND ON THAT.....
@davidallen3490
@davidallen3490 Год назад
Completely agree with this comment. It was crushing when we learned he was doping and of all the dopers out there, he seems to have been honest in reflecting on its perniciousness of these actions on his life and the sport.
@davidingram5965
@davidingram5965 Год назад
I am an older cyclist and remember those USPS years. Tyler was one of my favorites. I have great respect for him as he has been able to put the mistakes of the past behind him and come to resolution. I wish him the very best. Thanks, Tyler
@jcop14
@jcop14 Год назад
Not just another cycling video. That was inspiring. And therapeutic. It seems like Tyler's experiences and professional insights can be compared closely with several walks of life. I feel like I just went to a meeting.
@kenhalal375
@kenhalal375 2 года назад
I met Tyler and his wife at the time in Scottsdale Arizona. I forget what year it was but sometime in the early 2000's. He was at the tail end of his denial stage. I actually spoke with him and his wife post ride and really did believe him in that he was a clean rider. I will never forget how effortlessly he rode with us. How confident he was and his pedaling style. We have to keep in mind that despite the performance enhancing drugs these guys were already exceptional athletes. It seems many did not choose drugs on their own accord but it was part of doing business and achieving not so much their personal goals but team goals. How many former professional riders do we know that have come forward and say they terminated their contracts because they refused to do the drugs? It's always about money right? I was a masters rider during this time frame and performance enhancing drugs were not limited to the professional riders. This was one of many reasons I left the sport and to never take out another license since 2010.
@marcelsigrist4843
@marcelsigrist4843 Год назад
Iam proud of you, i have Friends call me same Story. I wish you the best
@Phil-dx8rw
@Phil-dx8rw 11 месяцев назад
Once drugs become part of a sport it is nearly impossible to get them out completely
@SF-rl7hl
@SF-rl7hl 4 года назад
You all have no idea what a Great guy he really is. Many years ago I sent him a personal email about what a great roll model he has become. I told him I used his experiences to educate my young daughter on how important it is in life to maintain your honor and self-respect in sports and in life. Tyler sent me a personal reply thanking me and was happy that his negatives have become positives for so many others. I think its a good thing for him to continue to speak up. Wish Lance would follow his lead. can be a healing moment. Thank you Tyler!
@marcelboogaard3809
@marcelboogaard3809 2 года назад
Well done Sir. The difference between Lance and Tyler is remorse. Give both the choice to become pro cyclists again with the same options. Lance would do it all again but Tyler probably wouldn’t. You live and you learn.
@Kippcom
@Kippcom 2 года назад
@@marcelboogaard3809 exactly. I think the whole thing has shown what Kind of Person they each are. And it doesn't look too good for Lance, to be honest. Not at all.
@seanhenderson1522
@seanhenderson1522 Год назад
I love Tyler for his book, but what load of horse sh*t. Be honest Tyler, if you didn't take that little red pill you would not be here talking to anyone today, no one would care about what you have to say. You would have had no real career in cycling. So saying your sorry is BS, your sorry cause you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar, but if faced with the same decisions you would do it all again!
@marcelboogaard3809
@marcelboogaard3809 Год назад
@@ThisIsTheMajor Do you follow cycling? Did Tyler ruin clean riders careers? Did Tyler try to ruin Gregg LeMond financially because he made comments about drug taking? Did Tyler go after any of his teammates or other people who were working within the team? Did Tyler got away with paying back over 150 million dollars in sponsorship and price money? Lance is only sorry he got caught. Everyone deserves a second chance only some deserve it more than others. Adolescent my Arse.
@markhill9275
@markhill9275 Год назад
@@marcelboogaard3809 congratulations! Absolutely spot on! Lance is pure evil. Oh the congrats are for being able to spell arse correctly, and not wrong like Septic Tanks do! Allex di Ocana!
@cegb551
@cegb551 4 года назад
Read his book, met him last year.. He’s a top bloke. Good luck to him.
@Maebbie
@Maebbie 4 года назад
so he got popular by doping and doing well in cycling due to that and now im supposed to give him even more money by buying the book. That doping sure must have been worth while for him.
@manga8635
@manga8635 4 года назад
Maebbie doesn’t take away from the fact how hard all these guys worked. And everyone was doing it, same in most high level sports. It’s how it is, they still achieved amazing things
@tomkunich9401
@tomkunich9401 3 года назад
@@manga8635 - still sounds to me like he's asking forgiveness. What is done is done.
@christofferbrandel6491
@christofferbrandel6491 3 года назад
Tbh he's a little bitch. He doped, everyone doped. Only fools will hold it against him. He should stop being a pussy trying to apology to the fools.
@Blake953
@Blake953 3 года назад
@@Maebbie It was part of the highly competitive big money cycling culture that he was immersed in, that his original love of cycling lead him into...they all doped, from all teams. That did not make it right, but if you wanted to compete, to be in the game, that is what it took, when in Rome mentality. By no means am I making excuses for what they did and it is easy to stand on the moral high ground from the outside and judge and call them "dopers" which is not an incorrect label, but do not judge a person until you have walked in their shoes. If you do not care for the man and what he did, that is fine, don't buy his book, but be careful on that judgemental moral high ground.
@rosskennedy8356
@rosskennedy8356 Год назад
Good for you Tyler. We all make mistakes but what’s important is owning them, which you have done and more. Those that haven’t come clean are missing out on the power of confession. Drugs or no drugs, you gave some of the gutsiest bike performances I’ve ever watched, giro collar bone, liege Bastogne liege, and some of the funniest like when the horse knocked you off. I used to see you riding through Concord Mass in the winter just after you joined postal where you looked light years ahead of every other cyclist passing by. Wonderful to hear you have come full circle and now enjoying family life. You deserve it. Love your dad Bill too!
@stevenweiss7129
@stevenweiss7129 Год назад
When he rode with a broken collar bone, he was my hero. I have never seen anyone as tough as a professional bike rider. He had to send a dog over the rainbow bridge and my heart broke for him. I was so disappointed to learn the truth, but I understand, I forgive and I am sure he is a man of great conviction, compassion and character that has been burned into him through his life experiences. I am sure I would be proud to count him as a friend.
@rwh2559
@rwh2559 Год назад
What is the dog story?
@stevenweiss7129
@stevenweiss7129 Год назад
@@rwh2559He had a dog named Tugboat as I recall. A golden retriever. He crossed the rainbow bridge during the 2004 TDF.
@linseedoil6977
@linseedoil6977 Год назад
I don't get it ?
@nelsonhibbert5267
@nelsonhibbert5267 Год назад
@@linseedoil6977 Don't get what?
@babymilksnatcher
@babymilksnatcher Год назад
We can be thankful he's still there to tell us his story. We lost too many guys of this era to depression. The disregard of 2000s cycling to mental health struggles was astonishing. They'd give T and amphetamines to a man who clearly needed therapy without pondering the consequences.
@leonardofabbri7930
@leonardofabbri7930 Год назад
Tell me that. Having Cesenatico as second home, met Marco's dad, his bandana taken in Porto Canale in 2000 summer. I blame Italy, my country. We are the main responsible, we created and pushed the culture of performance-enhancing at start of 80s with doctors who used riders in the peloton as lab rats. And then Marco was unable to carry the weight, when castle that gave him kind of Icarus wings fell off. He was the last person in the world I wanted to see enter in such a self destruction process.
@deozeo4442
@deozeo4442 Год назад
In the US, '98, I ruptured cervical vertebrae at C4-C5 & C5-C6, resulting in an incomplete severed spinal cord. This required a titanium plate to stabilize C3-C7, then 6 months to heal and finally surgery to remove the top half of spinal column at C3-C7... decompression. My life had completed flipped into one that I had no guidance forward. I could no longer work as I was paraplegic during those 6 months. I had to declare bankruptcy. Loving parents covered my living expenses until full disability kicked in. I battled depression and thoughts of ending life nightly. What pulled me through... physically... was the decades of cycling. My muscles seemed to adapt to the many disability insecurities. Three neurosurgeons, separately, stated it was a wonder that I was walking. About 8 years latter, I was cycling again though on much shorter daily routes at 1/8th the speed and managed to ride a few short 62 mile organized rides. The downside, I required 110mg oxycontin daily to alleviate the pain to a workable level. This was not sustainable. Five years ago, I stopped the oxy... and the cycling ceased. I miss it so much. I just had my 69th birthday on Bastille Day. Listening to the Tour has brought in so many memories of a great Life, thanks to my world of cycling!! 🥰🐈
@ecuadorthree
@ecuadorthree Год назад
Hang in there buddy. I'm 40, but when I was 21 I shattered my elbow in a crash and had lots of titanium put in (olecranon, distal humerus, radius). I started racing and was in good shape, but was known as the guy who couldn't move his left arm. Last year I had a seizure on the bike and went headfirst into a wall and was in hospital for a long time. I'm lucky - I still have trouble walking, but I can cycle short to mid distances. I stopped caring about Strava segments etc - just being on a bike again was its own reward. Sorry if any of this comes across as patronising. Best of luck.
@deozeo4442
@deozeo4442 Год назад
@@ecuadorthree Thank you. I sincerely hope for your progression of wellness. And no, not patronizing at all. Mainly what I took away is your statement '...just being on a bike again has its own reward.' Perhaps it is us select few who understand that sensation. Even as my age "ages", I do yearn for a reintroduction, as it were, of being on a bike once again... tho it may have to be a granny 3-wheeler. A 3-wheeler is surprisingly a challenge. If you ever have the opportunity.... attempt it, with an acute awareness of not leaning. Namaste my friend 🙏
@lastfm4477
@lastfm4477 Год назад
How did you setup your bike after a C3-C7 fusion? What style bike was it? Road, hybrid, MTB? I've got collapsed discs from C4-C7 and an auto-fusion C2-C3. So I can barely hold my head straight, much less up in a normal road bike position. Currently riding an Electra Townie21, but hate this 34lb thing - I want something more normal to ride. So would love to hear how did you do it?
@rogerc23
@rogerc23 4 года назад
You’re a good man Tyler don’t ever forget it. You’re book is easily the most incredible sports book ever written. Thank you.
@danieljones3955
@danieljones3955 4 года назад
Roger C can’t argue with that great read
@jamessrq
@jamessrq 4 года назад
@@danieljones3955 I second that. Good book.
@craigrohrer7337
@craigrohrer7337 4 года назад
I'm an older rider and all through the 80's I was a very good Cat II racer which was a very strong group. I would race in I, II and PRO, I, II events and do quite well. Around the early-mid 90's we started noticing that we were starting to get dropped at some events that were usually quite tame for us. I just knew something was up. I first attributed it to just getting older, but nothing I did was different or my times and other data. I just quit racing I wasn't going to go that route. At that time the women suffered more then the men. Their bodies would just get destroyed.
@jackdanielss
@jackdanielss 4 года назад
The sad thing is that Hamilton was one of America's most talented cyclists in the late 90's/ early 2000's
@jackdoyle3863
@jackdoyle3863 4 года назад
This is a good man. I hope he knows that.
@tomkunich9401
@tomkunich9401 3 года назад
Knows what? That it was worth his while to drug? In the end I am sure he will.
@cycologist7069
@cycologist7069 2 года назад
@@tomkunich9401 Nonsensical post.
@Jon-cw8bb
@Jon-cw8bb 2 года назад
He only told the truth once he had made lots of money & was being faced with prison time if he didn't testify.
@johnd1466
@johnd1466 Год назад
Snitch saved himself for money on top of snitching !
@janhansen5438
@janhansen5438 Год назад
@@tomkunich9401 you know nothing about that! Just stupid speculation. Keep your little whiny mouth shot!
@michaelb1716
@michaelb1716 2 года назад
An inspirational man. Not only for his wonderful grit, determination and desire as a racer but his raw honesty. Brave on and off the bike
@freeagent8225
@freeagent8225 4 года назад
I was tempted to do performance enhancing drugs for the 13knm commute to work. After watching this in glad I had the willpower to say no.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 2 года назад
Wait! What?! For a short commute? I hope you’re joshing.
@60zeller
@60zeller 2 года назад
@@keirfarnum6811 , keir….come on Man…
@freeagent8225
@freeagent8225 2 года назад
@@keirfarnum6811 I worked as a nurse and had access to EPO. No never took it but wondered what it was like. When trekking in Pakistan at 6000m when you descend you feel good. More red blood cells.
@leonardofabbri7930
@leonardofabbri7930 Год назад
For going to work???? 🤔🤨🧐
@freeagent8225
@freeagent8225 Год назад
@@leonardofabbri7930 As a nurse I had access to EPO, but never took it. Management would be suspicious if I was always early to work 😒
@drivemyexotic5274
@drivemyexotic5274 4 года назад
Really I can't imagine being in his shoes. Taking something you love and having it become something entirely different. And all the pressure from so many places. Wow.
@JK-vc7ie
@JK-vc7ie 2 года назад
It's call professional sports. If you don't want that, stay and amateur and do it for the love of the sport. Nobody forced him to be a professional athlete. I think he got his degree from CU. He could have easily been just like anyone else in Colorado that works a normal job and rides bikes for the love of it.
@dananolan7847
@dananolan7847 2 года назад
Revelations come in many shapes & sizes, tyler's was a red pill, I applaud you sir Hamilton in owning your stuff.
@jpendres
@jpendres 4 года назад
Tyler is a cool guy. Every time I listen to him talk or when I read his book, it feels like he could be a good friend.
@dougowens4508
@dougowens4508 4 года назад
The NFL NBA world tennis premiership world soccer NHL major league baseball is all filled with drugs and steroids… Surely the NFL doesn’t want to test everybody because they r afraid… Every once in a while they catch an outlier… And people would say who is that ..oh it’s a tackle from Miami or something like that. It’s about winning and it’s about power and it’s about money.
@Neilazbiker
@Neilazbiker 4 года назад
@@dougowens4508 Right on DougO
@goldenretriever6261
@goldenretriever6261 4 года назад
I've met him. He's super cool and friendly.
@bob-ny6kn
@bob-ny6kn 4 года назад
@@dougowens4508 You are wrong, you were taught wrong and you are perpetuating ignorance. Sport is a competition made fair by laws, rules and guidelines, determining a winner by executing physical, tactical and strategic planning. You are talking about cheating. It is illegal regardless if "everyone" is doing it, duration or quantity.
@johnnyonly163
@johnnyonly163 2 года назад
His book was ghostwritten according to Phil Gaimon. Just sayin.
@scottfast03
@scottfast03 2 года назад
Tyler is an awesome dude and good person. I’ve met and rode with him many many years ago. He was caught in the forbidden world like everyone else. Hope he is doing well these days.
@daviddorman5619
@daviddorman5619 2 года назад
Thats cool! He seems like the kinda guy who would be really fun to ride with.
@justtestingonce
@justtestingonce 2 года назад
Then he snitched.
@daviddorman5619
@daviddorman5619 2 года назад
@@justtestingonce we got a fellow member of the omerta here
@markcavandish1295
@markcavandish1295 2 года назад
@@justtestingonce You mean, he was forced… just like he was forced to dope.
@omarbahrour
@omarbahrour 2 года назад
I don’t really know how anyone could view him any other way honestly. I hope he is able to relax and just live his life and chill now, not carrying around any more guilt about the past.
@richardupyurass2379
@richardupyurass2379 3 года назад
Look Tyler there is not one single person that has any understanding of pro cycling that has ever lost any respect for you. Your talent, commitment to the sport and ultimately your incredible character is nothing short of a true role model. First class man.
@alisdairmcgill237
@alisdairmcgill237 3 года назад
Hi Tyler, you’re racing days for me were very exciting and got my heart pumping faster watching it. I think the epo and blood boosting must have been used widely in this period and that it made for very exciting racing, but your body was at a very high level anyway. I was and am a great fan cheers to you!!!
@mikehenderson54
@mikehenderson54 2 года назад
Thank you for your honesty and reflection. Every action has a reaction and we have to be aware of what that is because some are more life impacting than others. Again, I have the greatest respect because you came out and faced it unlike Lance or others.
@bikerbruce1988
@bikerbruce1988 Год назад
Honesty? Is that what you think you heard? There is a sucker born every minute. This POS portrays himself as the innocent lamb, knowing full well he was just as selfish, just as much a liar, and just as desirous to cheat as the worst of them.
@dmacrasur3183
@dmacrasur3183 3 года назад
I was a freshman at UC Boulder when Tyler was a sophomore. I was a newb cyclist ...he was already a phenom. Tyler is a humble man. God bless u brother.
@kevinsbott
@kevinsbott 3 года назад
This is fantastic, I appreciate the honesty. I have done competitive cycling and all natural powerlifting. A former world record power lifter in my weight class was significantly weaker than me when he was off the drugs. So I’ve been on the other side of this as well.
@scottmUTCS
@scottmUTCS 2 года назад
God bless you Tyler. Takes a lot to admit one's mistakes.
@johnanderson8096
@johnanderson8096 4 года назад
Good on ya Tyler!!! you've come clean... your integrity now is so obvious to see.. Congratulations!!!
@rcdogmanduh4440
@rcdogmanduh4440 4 года назад
Loved watching him race local and abroad. It was refreshing to hear him take responsibility for his choices, we all have them and dont always make the correct ones. " I screwed up, I made the mistake" pick up your marbles and move on! There are very few people you owe anything too, most importantly yourself.
@joerexlily
@joerexlily Год назад
I covered the tour for 6 years and Tyler was always my favorite because he was such a nice guy, from a good family and good town. I wish him the best in whatever he chooses. He was one of the best racers and then his book opened up everything...
@squidwerks1
@squidwerks1 4 года назад
The first time I saw Tyler ride was in an intercollegiate crit here in Greeley, CO when he was riding for CU. He lapped the field twice... Glad he's come out the other side with his head screwed on straight! I never hated Johan and Lance for running the slickest doping program in cycling (the whole peloton was doping) but the lies and backstabbing were despicable!
@keithaverill1223
@keithaverill1223 3 года назад
It was all dispicable. These MFers brought shame to our great country and they did it with the USPS giving them millions. These azzholes should be kicked out of the US and never allowed back in.
@jeankruger2502
@jeankruger2502 3 года назад
Another Greeleyiod here. Wish I would have seen that race!
@apga1998
@apga1998 2 года назад
Well we can only hope he’s changed his ways. Only he knows. These cyclists knew what they were doing was wrong. They lied about it when asked and lied about it when discovered. These lessons are best learned as a child, because we hold adults to a higher standard. Good luck Tyler.
@georgelugenalt200
@georgelugenalt200 2 года назад
@@keithaverill1223 Get over yourself. They are paid to win. If everyone is doing it, and they all were, singling someone out is stupid. The only fair thing to do was nothing, or flush all the riders and reinstate them one by one once proved clean. Why were none of the other riders punished for doping? The Festina riders never had their results erased, nor was Marco Pantani or Jan Ullrich removed from the list of winners, nor Riis who was the biggest doper of them all. Only Armstrong who was American. Total hypocrisy by all, and especially the French to lead the world in hypocrisy.
@timdowney6721
@timdowney6721 2 года назад
@@georgelugenalt200 So, may the best cheaters win. That’s your idea of competition. Armstrong was/is a POS who deliberately set out to destroy people who he KNEW were doing nothing but telling the truth. Armstrong also drove clean riders out of the peloton. So, not everybody was cheating, but Armstrong didn’t want that getting out, did he?
@danielday713
@danielday713 4 года назад
Mr. Hamilton, it is not the deed that defines us. It’s what we do after the deed is done. You, sir, are a class act for being so candid. I’m closer to sixty than I am fifty. My fastest days are behind. But I still remember those halcyon days. The stakes were high and the returns fleeting.
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex 2 года назад
No, if you do the deed already knowing it's wrong, then you are a douche. Example: I know that raping is wrong, still I do it. And after the fact I'll say it's bad and that I'm sorry. Suddenly I'm a sort of hero?
@maxscriptguru
@maxscriptguru 9 месяцев назад
A few months ago, in the early summer, I drove to a different town, and did a nice 35 mile loop around the town. Everything was green, the roads were smooth, it was rural countryside. Less traffic too. The weather was perfect, sunny and cool. The place was beautiful! That ride was my favorite ride this entire year. No amount of money or drugs could replace the joy I felt on that ride.
@davidhill9266
@davidhill9266 4 года назад
Power to you Tyler. We rode around Bermuda together 20 years ago. I respected you then and still do today. Enjoy your riding.
@indobleh
@indobleh 4 года назад
These US Postal guys (as well as others) they've got mental battle scars they'll take to the grave. Even now many years after their competitive racing careers are finished, they seem locked in a moment in history.
@kentgordis7922
@kentgordis7922 4 года назад
Tyler, you are truly an amazing human being, and your deep, sincere values are so very inspiring. Cycling lived through such a dark time, but with bright, powerful voices like yours we will overcome. Take care
@robbiek4400
@robbiek4400 2 года назад
overcome what? reality? good luck
@bhawkesutube1963
@bhawkesutube1963 2 года назад
And the truth will set you free. Bravo, Tyler Hamilton!
@MarcelaoVMS
@MarcelaoVMS 2 года назад
Very emotional and honest interview! I wish you all the best! You are anyway a hero and an example for many people! Thanks!!!
@Mookiethedog
@Mookiethedog 2 года назад
Tons of respect for this guy. Good health to you Tyler
@k-funk
@k-funk 2 года назад
Good on you for speaking so openly about it, and hopefully giving some of today's young riders the tools to be able to choose another route.
@dananolan7847
@dananolan7847 2 года назад
indeed
@_Doodle-bob
@_Doodle-bob 2 года назад
The tools to choose another route…. Like what? He is retired and so he can talk about it and be a hero and expect the younger men and women who are competing to not do the same? You don’t get a moral high ground once you have stepped away from the sport. We expect these athletes to continue to push what a human is capable of and these treatments legitimately improve their health and they are labeled a cheater for taking them? Are caffeine, protein, bcaa’s, creatine natural in the amounts we supplement them? No! But they all improve performance. This is a dumb take.
@onepunchbud1472
@onepunchbud1472 2 года назад
@@_Doodle-bob you compare drinking coffee with taking a blood injection which was before somehow pimped by EPO? Are you serious? In the end These Anti-Doping rules are there to protect life as his own example shows.
@oosung
@oosung 4 года назад
I commend you for disclosing your cycling history. I can't imagine the pressure you must have felt to succeed at all cost. First time hearing about your blood infusion, the pain that you went through, and the pain your family went through knowing what you went through. Being close to death and disappointment to must have went through. I'm glad you can speak about it now, cycling needs more disclosure from cyclists in the omerta.
@philsarkol6443
@philsarkol6443 Год назад
Good luck Tyler...stay strong and healthy...thx for your honesty, wish you all the best!
@Sequenox
@Sequenox 4 года назад
Thank you so much Tyler. Your beautiful story about how truth can set us free is so uplifting to me. God Bless you Tyler, and thanks for your example of courage.
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 2 года назад
It's a story necessary to be told, but most definitely not a "beautiful" story.
@ia5662
@ia5662 3 года назад
Tyler is the man - I loved reading his book. It all really makes sense when you see the kind of pressure the cyclists are up against constantly and the sheer hopelessness and inevitability of loss if you DON'T dope to keep up. I don't particularly blame any of them at all, they were still racing with the best of the best and it made for some absolutely stellar Tours. Just a shame we may never see what a human can do WITHOUT this stuff on a bike - that would be an awesome tour to see.
@keithaverill1223
@keithaverill1223 3 года назад
The honorable thing to do would be do your best without doping... If you can't compete then stop racing and go get a real job.
@christopherfreeman3095
@christopherfreeman3095 2 года назад
The honorable thing is to refrain from acting like you are above the athletes that doped, given the climate of their career. When someone’s career is at a crossroads where all dedication spent toward are thrown away, or there is a way to salvage the career by partaking in the “industry-illegal” act of doping, it is easy to see why all of the competitive players made the same decision. How do you expect the majority of kids, young adults in the pro peloton that are in massive debt with no prior work experience, no trade skills, no business skills, no degree, etc. to magically obtain this “real job” in a highly competitive job market. If they haven’t progressed a career to a point where their name has any weight, nobody cares that you can ride a bicycle quickly. But, hey they could go to a university and incur even more debt than is currently owed. Or you can take a pill, or a syringe, filled with the same drug the rest of the field takes. Some guys did quit, good for them. Hopefully their honorable decision didn’t put them in the poor house, and they were able to enjoy a normal life with a “real job”. But to condemn all individuals who have made a bad decision at some point, is quite dishonorable in its own right. Enjoy your own personal growth, you still have a ways left in your journey.
@rbseven2714
@rbseven2714 2 года назад
i think you've hit on it here. Can you IMAGINE how incredible a tour would be with 100% of riders NOT doped. It would be the most dynamic sporting event to watch and witness. One day some one would win a hill stage, the next they would pay for it, and someone else would put in a performance that they would pay for. Then the top 5 or 10 riders might come to a mountain stage and attack each other, and there would be no robo riders, they would all be fallible and every day would be wildly unpredictable. Its so sad and funny that we have the exact opposite. The money behind cycling thinks that doping is how to do it, where if you had a drug free race, the number of fans would grow and grow and grow.
@phat11
@phat11 Год назад
Great courage! He's always been one of my favorite riders.
@randycallow3736
@randycallow3736 2 года назад
Tyler is and was a great racer..I am glad that all involved including authorities and fans have found a way to accept what has happened,accept what Hamilton has said he is sorry for. That same acceptance and forgiveness should apply to all..
@MrVoayer
@MrVoayer 3 года назад
I loved Tyler when he was on the bike. No reason not to love him nowadays!
@josephalbanese1393
@josephalbanese1393 4 года назад
I have a great deal of respect for Tyler Hamilton. Kudos to him for making this video, being truthful about his past and present and I hope that he gets back to his roots and enjoys cycling the way it’s meant to be.
@richmondmillier
@richmondmillier Год назад
Thank you Tyler, thank you. Much respect for the degree of courage, coming clean and when it wasn’t popular or safe to do so.
@cvdavis
@cvdavis 2 года назад
Thank you Tyler for sharing this again.
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 4 года назад
He is a truly courageous guy and a role model to own up to himself and others and come clean in every sense.
@johnscala7870
@johnscala7870 3 года назад
Great Guy!!! A Real Courageous Class Act!! He Didn't Deserve to be Thrown into the Tainted BS World of PRO CYCLING!!! He's a GOOD MAN,!! Good On Ya Tyler Hamilton!! God Bless You Mate!!!👍👍✌️🙏✌️
@johnscala7870
@johnscala7870 3 года назад
The TRUTH will Set You FREE!! 😃✌️🙏
@S2Sturges
@S2Sturges 2 года назад
That egg shaped capsule was Andriol, it's a very common HRT. When I was diagnosed with a defective pituitary, I was on 4 -60mg caps a day. In reality they have a very short lifetime in the system, the testosterone is mixed with a inert oil, peanut I think, to help bypass the liver or the test would get destroyed by the liver enzymes. Long term use is detrimental to liver function. In reality, according to most body builders and such athletes, Andriol is considered a very low result supplement, but it was probably the least suspicious of the recovery products at the time.. It also affects the red blood count or hematocrit, like EPO but not to the same extent.
@uxpjsxu
@uxpjsxu Год назад
Very interesting comment. Since you seem to know a lot about this I have to ask. I have heard a doctor claim that the tour de france is so grueling on the body that it may actually be healthier to take some kind of steroid to help the body than just let it deteriorate naturally. From Tyler's story that the doctor told him it was for his health and your comment that this is considered a 'very low result supplement' it tends to corroborate this notion.
@S2Sturges
@S2Sturges Год назад
@@uxpjsxu I read Tyler's book and it was in fact Andriol he was first given to aid recovery, I don't know how the stuff affects extremely fit athletes with no preexisting conditions like I was. I do recall a interview Steve Bauer gave during the 1990 Tour, post stage in a hotel foyer.. I nodded over at a 6-7 year old boy and suggested he had more test in him than Steve had in his body post stage, so I guess, a couple of 60 mg capsules can't do any harm, maybe kick start recovery. This is the endless debate about recovery, and if a rider is predisposed to recover faster than others, say like a Pogacr or Roglic, who both seem to have extraordinary recovery, Miguel Indurain was another, plus all three are V02 monsters, that is something you can only train so much for.. I digress.. As a final comparison , my GP took me off Andriol because I was getting a fatty liver and onto a injectable 1000 mg HRT, I repeated every 10-12 weeks. The difference was incredible, I got lean, muscle mass improved, my hemocrit went up to 51%. I rode like the wind, I still do, but I can't give blood too much test.. It is a very very powerful supplement
@ssudweeks4280
@ssudweeks4280 4 года назад
Thanks for telling your story!
@jffydavy5509
@jffydavy5509 4 года назад
Tyler loved melding his body into the machine. In the beginning that connection and performance was all him. The team's enhancement fogged the connection. It sacrificed his sole, until he told the truth to the world. Telling the truth took the same strength as completing the Tour. He deserves a Yellow Jersey for being a champion!
@luke4strings208
@luke4strings208 4 года назад
You’re a good man Tyler, and still a champion in many other ways. Thank you and God bless you
@JMcLeodKC711
@JMcLeodKC711 4 года назад
This is the video every high school kid should watch even if they're not athletes. We will all reach a crossroads when the choice to do what is right and what is not right will present itself.
@team3383
@team3383 2 года назад
And we will all take the pill which is tendered to us ... Its unfortunate. I was speaking with the father of a world level athlete and the answer to the WHY did you let your son do it is very disturbing: "Everybody else does it, or MUST be doing it, and he worked so hard to get there, that ....." And they look you straight in the eye as if were the most normal thing on earth and that YOU are the person to blame for even bringing the subject up !
@alan_davis
@alan_davis 2 года назад
@@team3383 Not all of us. Maybe you.
@team3383
@team3383 2 года назад
@@alan_davis I dropped out of sport as soon as I realised that drugs were necessary in my sport to be "up there". Don't kid yourself mate. If you are a world level athlete, you are not having bog standard bacon and eggs every morning... Cheers.
@team3383
@team3383 2 года назад
@@alan_davis PS: Especially if there are medical people in your team !!!!!
@ark6959
@ark6959 Год назад
Most people don’t understand the struggles of a Pro cyclist, but they are quick to judge from their easy chairs. Tyler did what he thought he had to do and he paid the price. Another talented cyclist who got caught trying to pursue his dream. All of the top cyclists are dopers. Face the truth, people! It’s still fun to watch the racing. These guys train hard and are trying to live their dreams.
@9090Glenn
@9090Glenn 2 года назад
I met Tyler one night in 2008 in a bookstore in downtown Boston - we shook hands - he seemed reluctant or a little sheepish to acknowledge that - yes - he was Tyler Hamilton - sad to see him so low and hopefully time has healed some of his personal demons but I think he will be working on that the rest of his life and he more than anyone else likely knows that its a long hard road ahead of him - hope things are improving for you Tyler
@endcensorship874
@endcensorship874 4 года назад
I always liked Tyler during his racing days. I liked he supported MS research and the Bike MS fundraiser. I was angry when I found he was doping, and I really disliked him at that time and for a long time afterward. Now? I realize he was just being used. This interview shows how he was psychologically beaten down over time with using the drugs. I feel different toward him now. Sympathy? I guess. I feel he is a good man, he tried his best in a bad situation. Would I have been better? Chosen differently? I don't think so. Tyler's openness is what we need. - - - But Lance? Screw that guy.
@m.s.g1890
@m.s.g1890 4 года назад
Rob Hartsock Both cheated the system and cost clean riders honour and money. If Tyler had the fame, fortune and honours that Lance had he might have tried to keep getting away with it too. Lance was also used, but he, like MOST riders, never wanted to come clean in the end. Is Lance really any worse than the many other riders who cheated, and still do cheat, but don’t own up?
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 года назад
@@m.s.g1890 What makes Asteriskstrong worse is the way that he ruined people's lives to keep his secret. Even when he was caught dead to rights, USADA offered him a last chance to come clean, and several people had warned him before the final interview, and he refused. I don't think that Tyler Hamilton has shown the degree of psychopathy as Armstrong, so I don't think he would have done the same.
@johndean4912
@johndean4912 2 года назад
Your reaction is exactly the same as mine. I too remember Tyler’s assurances that he was not doping. I felt deceived afterwards and actually needed to see this video. I am glad to now fully understand how he got to that point. As a long term blood donor I understand how easy it is to remove blood from the body to in his case use later. John. USA
@rosskennedy8356
@rosskennedy8356 2 года назад
Respect for you Tyler. Coming clean particularly when you did was like taking the grenade. Most that got caught continued to tell fairy tales when the truth would have served better. Thank you for taking the hard road.
@kittycat6195
@kittycat6195 3 года назад
His decision was so understandable. I love this guy.
@joezavala9659
@joezavala9659 4 года назад
Tyler H. is a humble good man. He comes across as honest. He happened to race in a time when doping was what most riders were doing.
@institutekravmaganl
@institutekravmaganl 3 года назад
A good guy for sure who was exceptional on his bike long before anyone stuck a needle into him. I had the pleasure of traveling a little and racing with him and saw more than enough to attest to his character. Glad to see you looking and feeling better these days Tyler!
@MC-xw6vm
@MC-xw6vm 2 года назад
I remember Tyler finishing the TDF with a broken clavicle after crashing hard. Tough as they come.
@chasman9662
@chasman9662 2 года назад
He even won a stage in the Pyrenees with that double fracture. Good memory there MC.
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 2 года назад
Ground down his teeth gutting out the pain! No wonder he was picked for the team. Guy's a beast,dope or no dope.
@Tilemason1
@Tilemason1 2 года назад
Didn't he end up 4th GC
@braindrain8922
@braindrain8922 2 года назад
Not as tough as me , i won fuck all , but rode clean . I can look myself in the mirror and hopefully grow old with my gorgeous second ( non cycling ) wife
@ceilingunlimited5073
@ceilingunlimited5073 Год назад
I admire Tyler for his courage in continuing to tell his story
@brianwahl711
@brianwahl711 4 года назад
Set yourself free young man! Your personal desire for freedom will come from your honesty, stay true to yourself, block out the negative BS from those defending themselves and their bad/perhaps illegal behavior. Please don’t forget your passion to ride, your talent and athleticism that got you to to top wrungs of cycling. Be yourself and get on with your life!
@gbart981
@gbart981 2 года назад
Tyler has been one of my favorite riders to watch. I feel anyone involved in supplying banned substances to riders should be publicly stripped of their licenses, banned from having anything to do with sports, and generally publicly humiliated for trashing an otherwise beautiful sport. Real tired of riders taking all the grief, they don't make the drugs, go after the suppliers.
@simonhesbrook1761
@simonhesbrook1761 2 года назад
Compelling stuff, I have been a Tour de France fan for over 30 years and remember this era and the dominance of the US Postal team so well, I totally believed Lance Armstrong and fell for all of it. We learn from history and hopefully we become better for it. Fair play to him for putting himself out there and facing his fans to admit that he let them down.
@stefanoarati8423
@stefanoarati8423 2 года назад
You leave US postal to go to CSC and get more success by the same way with bjarne riis (!?!?). You won a stage with a broken collarbone in Bayonne. Everyone needs a second chance...you had the third....
@claudeyaz
@claudeyaz 2 года назад
I thought it was sus lemond went from top..after major surgery from being shot..and the next year in best condition...barely hanging on -___-
@fleezy1579
@fleezy1579 Год назад
Everyone was doping at that time that was competitive! Why attack Lance? Because he did it the best? Bullshit everyone was doping!
@r.guardia9107
@r.guardia9107 Год назад
Fleezy, doping isn’t the issue with Lance. The son of bitch ruined a lot of lives trying to keep his fraud a secret. I think he sued about everyone he knew for slander/defamation. Even though they were telling the truth about his bullshit.
@seaneriksen2695
@seaneriksen2695 Год назад
@@fleezy1579 u forget about the honest people, who didnt take steriods, and therefor didnt make it. They found other jobs i guess, lance made millions...
@barriem5318
@barriem5318 4 года назад
Peace to you Tyler Hamilton. I hope you are well and enjoying life.
@GrahamQuigley
@GrahamQuigley 2 года назад
I’m 4years younger from Beverly, MA and we must have road on the same roads growing up. While others were accusing Lance of doping, I stood behind him and you and others, and said, “NO! They don’t do that..” And then I was let down by all of you. It was like my childhood was tarnished. Redemption is possible, and so is forgiveness. Thank you
@alexarihani2902
@alexarihani2902 2 года назад
You shouldn’t be let down by athletes, celebs or the like. Athletics has a purpose and can teach people a lot of good life skills but really why look up to people who dedicate their lives to such a self centered activity that benefits virtually no one but the participant.
@DBRising
@DBRising 2 года назад
Nothing but honesty and transparency. It's like he's a channel for his huge heart, pouring it all out. Thanks TH.
@jcsrst
@jcsrst 4 года назад
This is how a person with a conscience behaves.
@dosepulveda1
@dosepulveda1 4 года назад
Yup.
@rogerc23
@rogerc23 4 года назад
Now if only the peloton of cowards he rode with would do the same
@kitten-inside
@kitten-inside 4 года назад
Growing a conscience after getting caught. Suuure.
@wvu05
@wvu05 4 года назад
@@kitten-inside As Asteriskstrong has proven, even that isn't automatic.
@AppletreerepairsCoUk
@AppletreerepairsCoUk 4 года назад
I think that Tyler has done a good job promoting dope free cycling, but please remember he was going to Jail if he did not give evidence, ( His own words) it was not conscience.
@daviddemanuele
@daviddemanuele 4 года назад
You are a great guy Tyler.
@stevenwebb9861
@stevenwebb9861 2 года назад
Tyler I followed you at the time great in the mountains! A sad story for sure but we all make mistakes, this seemed from the heart. Have a happy future. Best wishes to you from the UK.
@martb2195
@martb2195 4 года назад
The only one of the old dopers from that era I have respect for. The only one who really have come clean. Hats off to Tyler.
@justinbartley5245
@justinbartley5245 4 года назад
Top fella👍
@davomccranko
@davomccranko 2 года назад
I highly respect this man.
@paulschmidtke425
@paulschmidtke425 4 года назад
Wow ,what a great bloke, I'm impressed
@philippang07
@philippang07 4 года назад
The truth sets us free. Wonderful vid.
@jjb7599
@jjb7599 4 года назад
Tyler: THANKS. Young athletes aiming for a professional career should _meet_ Tyler. I think ESPN did a great job: Tyler IS relevant.
@lazlo2511
@lazlo2511 3 года назад
Respect for been honest, at least your plate is clean, unlike many others. You are still awesome Tyler!
@AngladaFamilia
@AngladaFamilia Год назад
The power of the truth! ❤️. Thank you Tyler. God Bless.
@Dk-xp3yx
@Dk-xp3yx 4 года назад
Read his book, its a great story. Seems like a really nice guy. A. Great cyclist, what a shame drugs fucked everything up. But he had the balls to come clean. 1000 times the man Armstrong will ever be.
@Colinjohnlewis
@Colinjohnlewis 4 года назад
Agree, Lance was my hero when I was younger, could not understand why the French fans gave him so much grief. Now we know, those fans weren’t so silly after all. Good job Tyler, the sport thanks you
@brandiandjasonpinkerton9481
@brandiandjasonpinkerton9481 4 года назад
Absolute hero in my book! I would love to ride along side Tyler someday. Cheers!
@talibe801
@talibe801 4 года назад
Agree
@juanrhermo8002
@juanrhermo8002 Год назад
Hello Tyler, I have read your book, I think that you explain very well your world, the system, and all that culture...you are a great man...good luck champion💪👍
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 4 года назад
Loved the black and white footage of the Sydney Olympics men’s TT; the course went right down my girlfriend’s street!
@edmartinez5345
@edmartinez5345 4 года назад
Godbless you Tyler.
@Jojos25
@Jojos25 Год назад
My dad was a doctor in Spain for decades until he retired a few years ago and he always told me how parents of underage riders would come to him asking for advice because their kid had been given a certain suspicious pill by the team doctor. This was common practice even in junior events. Rotten culture.
@altermode
@altermode 4 года назад
You are doing the right thing. Keep it up.
@durianriders
@durianriders 2 года назад
The footage of Tyler racing is from the Sydney 2000 Olymics
@pavlos..
@pavlos.. 2 года назад
Just rode that strip of road an hour ago
@stianpollestad754
@stianpollestad754 4 года назад
Reading The Secret Race brought me here. Thanks for a good read Tyler. He raced in a very dark age of cycling.
@Murphy252000
@Murphy252000 4 года назад
It’s going on now, look at the times
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737
@imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 2 года назад
Tyler Hamilton is one tough SOB! We all make mistakes,especially when we're young. Glad he's unburdened his conscience & soul,paid his debt and can enjoy his life.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 года назад
We cannot claim for sure to know if Tyler is sincere from the bottom of his heart (although I, for one, am convinced he is). But the one thing we can say for sure is that this is the attitude that you want to see in a human being who has always loved his sport and got caught up in a culture which was even more damaging to his mental health then it was to his physical health. For someone who is ‘potentially insincere’ he’s got an amazingly heartfelt story. That’s why I believe he is as sincere as they come. Either way, the story needs to be told the way Tyler does it and I applaud him for it.
@onlygazza
@onlygazza 4 года назад
Over the years since this all came out I’ve changed my mind about the cycle dopers ( they did cheat but the teams encouraged it ) and I do feel sorry for them losing the sport they love for a stupid mistake or decision made when young, I would like see a way back for them or another chance to redeem themselves.
@stevefirth6472
@stevefirth6472 3 года назад
It was either go along or leave competitive professional cycling. What a heartbreaking choice to have to make.
@-First-Last
@-First-Last Год назад
@@stevefirth6472 Same as corona :vaccines"
@winstoncat6785
@winstoncat6785 3 года назад
Tyler. Thanks. A brutal and straightforward question. Is it known whether use of EPO in the early or middle part of a career has continued positive effects for the rest of time and leads to additional longevity as a pro cyclist? There are a few out there who should not be. One of them is Spanish. It bothers me a lot.
@christopherfreeman3095
@christopherfreeman3095 2 года назад
EPO, Transfusions, Testosterone, etc. have temporary effects. Generally speaking, the athletes at this level are at or near their maximum physiological potential. If an athlete discontinues use of one of these PEDs, the effects don’t continue, or add a lasting physiological benefit, because the individual cannot sustain the physiology benefit received from the drug. That is why the greatest scheme in the sport was the blood transfusion operation. Once clean, a rider will quickly revert to their physiological potential as if they never doped. These drugs are essentially “recovery enhancers”, allowing the body to refresh at abnormal rates. It does not make an individual any stronger, but allows the body to perform for longer or better for follow-up performances like stage races. This is why doping has little effect over a time trial, or other shorter single day events. Hopefully this all makes sense
@winstoncat6785
@winstoncat6785 2 года назад
@@christopherfreeman3095 Hello. Thanks. What are your qualifications in this field, if I may ask? I understand your reply. However, I am asking about an effect that would not be found unless specifically looked for. Longevity in a sport could be associated with additional effects of doping products that we simply haven't recognised or thought about. This is a nasty suspicion I harbour based on the extremely long career of a certain Spanish ex? - doper. Again, without conducting a study into this hypothesis, you presumably cannot rule it out? Having said that, lack of such a study does not mean that any such effect exists or that the hypothesis is true.
@alan_davis
@alan_davis 2 года назад
@@winstoncat6785 I'm not sure he has any... EPO literally increases haematocrit levels - that's the ratio of red blood cells - which means more oxygen carried to muscles and higher performance. It absolutely makes a difference in a time-trial... Given that... your original question is interesting (and yes, I too had suspicions about that Spanish guy). The general consensus (but I'm not certain there is good data available) is that using PEDs in the past has allowed people to train harder than they otherwise could have, which has "some" lasting effects. But... the presence of an ex. doper at the front of a "clean" field would not be surprising just through statistics - not many people entered the pro peloton on PEDs, they all had talent before. In fact the best natural athletes were helped the least by EPO due to the UCI 50% haematocrit limit (thankfully replaced since by the biological passport).
@simonguard5087
@simonguard5087 2 года назад
You are an inspiration and future role model for those two boys.
@checka1963
@checka1963 3 года назад
Wow, that was a very emotional little video. Especially the bit when he could just finally unleash the truth to the jury and get the pressure of the lie off his system. And then admitting it to his children. Its funny how much power the truth can actually hold.
@onelapmaster5634
@onelapmaster5634 2 года назад
It's strange how so many cyclists have revealed the pervasiveness of PEDs and doping in cycling but no track (running) athlete has been willing to do so.
@robertmorton8876
@robertmorton8876 2 года назад
Not just track, many other sports.
@onelapmaster5634
@onelapmaster5634 2 года назад
@@robertmorton8876 good point.
@danmartinez9497
@danmartinez9497 2 года назад
@@robertmorton8876 all professional sports.. But cycling gets all the blame
@jaybobd
@jaybobd 2 года назад
It's because they haven't been caught yet. These cyclists who admitted to doping "for the good of the sport" including Tyler didn't do so until they had no other option. It's also worth noting the whistleblowers like Tyler and Floyd Landis got busted after they were no longer riding with Armstrong.
@Jonny_Red
@Jonny_Red 2 года назад
I'd love to see tennis come clean with it all... itd be totally busting open a ten tonne can of worms if it ever happens
@nicholasjanosy2214
@nicholasjanosy2214 4 года назад
I can’t see Lance being this humble.
@Cyclingmasterseller
@Cyclingmasterseller 4 года назад
It's hard when you're a sociopath, for there is no conscience and that is sad. Lance will go down as the greatest sociopathic cyclist, aka liar.
@MalcolmJameson_1
@MalcolmJameson_1 4 года назад
Because Lance is a natural born winner. This guy on the contrary is a loser
@Cyclingmasterseller
@Cyclingmasterseller 4 года назад
You know little about cycling, morals, and the true Lance. He even admits he'll still do anything to win, even if it means anything. That's Lance. Lance would have been nothing if it were not for his great teammates. Lance is a great cyclist and a lousy human being. As for Tyler Hamilton, he was great as well, same with George, and the rest of the guys!
@MalcolmJameson_1
@MalcolmJameson_1 4 года назад
@@yosserc Apparently you have not been in pro sports. There is no way you can win without doping at this level. And no way you can win without having a winnner's mentality like Lance does. i repeat again - Lance is a true natural born winner, he was determined to win no matter what it takes and only such kind of people win at a pro level.
@jonsek
@jonsek 4 года назад
@@MalcolmJameson_1 It is interesting how you interpret the words natural and loser.
@PILOT-1
@PILOT-1 2 года назад
Tyler represents the future of road bike racing!!! What an awesome dude!!!!
@funnytortoise
@funnytortoise 2 года назад
Thanks for the dope content!
@azbikerider49
@azbikerider49 4 года назад
Good to see. Sad that, that was the reality of the sport for so very long. I probably would have done the same thing. I met him once at the cycling show in Vegas right before his Olympics. He was nice enough. Funny side story, at the show I was with my girlfriend who was from South Africa, a little hard to understand with her accent, We had stopped Tyler who was with a crew from Bell Helmets. We basically interrupted their meeting the take a picture. While we got the picture, she says let me see your calf muscles compared to mine. We both looked at each other like what did she just say?? Then Tyler and I compared calf muscles. We were laughing about it. Just a unique funny moment that I'll always remember. Then I gave him a pen with my business name on it :) ha Too funny.
@dillydilly7722
@dillydilly7722 4 года назад
It’s still the sport dude, all the top level athletes use PEDs
@hagenre8909
@hagenre8909 3 года назад
@@dillydilly7722 genetic doping and all kinds of other stuff which they are not able to trace back
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