Effects That Shouldn't Have Been Added to FEH 

cough cough pre combat damage

Honestly, I still feel a little sore over “pre-combat damage” but part of me does understand in the case of tank units like Emblem Ike. But full agree on Valentine’s Lyon and the turn cancelling effect. Wish we could go back in time and stop THAT tragedy from happening.

how could you not mention start-of-combat damage. like legendary Camilla’s gimmick is that your health is gonna be almost nothing by the time her first attack even happens and that’s just kinda messed up, and more units have gotten it since like the dreaded duo Lyon

False Start was fine and Freyr is an extremely ridiculous overcompensation. I will die on this hill.

So not just certain effects, but some of these alts were mistakes.

Bridal Catria was the original mistake that caused so many of the issues we've been having.

I think the game would have been fine if we just had Flared Sparrow and thats it, for precombat damage. But now we need to run Occultist's/Assassin's Strike and any other forms of it just to stay meta.

How did Pre-Combat damage get a pass here?

Eh, i will agree Elimine was messed up with the False Start nonesense but i say it was as oppressive as Mila's Isolation effect on basically all dancers/low def assist users. Why i argue tho? Well, atleast you could TRY to counter Elimine by buffing Res. Also, she only hit ONE lane on HER turn so you had to consider who was more important to stop and good counters were to ensure each lane had something important/good to get the opponent to make a choice on what was needed to be false started or not. I understand she needed to be countered and it makes sense no one else has come with the effect yet but nah.....i say Freyr is waaaaay more problematic. If Elimine shot off False Start on player AND Enemy phase, yea, it'd be understandable to release Freyr like that but like Elimine....Freyr just shuts down a lot of things. Unlike Elimine tho...you can't even counter his effect....which is stupid. Weird that they felt False Start was too strong but have given us 4 different units who can just end turn you with out your consent is wild lol But yea....i understand Elimine was an extreme answer to Catria balls and problem a double down on stopping L!Sig at the time but i think Freyr was too much as well AND is uncounterable since his effect just works while Elimine actually took "strategy" to use and defend against if you put the effort in. That concludes my slight defense of Elimine lmao

I want a skill where the unit has fucking guard and super effective against all types because why not

See no thought about damage reduction

All right so I'm definitely going to be clowned for this take. Now i understand without the introduction of the skill and effect tanks would've probably be annoying to this day. I'm going to say Null follow up. Like we're at a point where we getting a half null follow up in weapons in skills. We still get stuff that deny follow ups but it's kinda irrelevant as a lot of characters have the skill straight out of the gate or as a support skill. I'm fine with null counter disrupt as it's more straight forward. I mean i don't think I've ever heard "They got the offensive ver. of null counter (not a good example but hopefully it made a little sense).

Brave Seliph should be in this video somewhere for Speedcreep

The stupidest thing is that they went on to make ruse 4 so clearly IntSys was fine with directly targeting Catria... so why didnt they just make that Elimine's effect in the first place? Then they wouldnt have needed to over correct with the cancer named Freyr

Ward Skills are pretty much useless against Dragons, sure you fight back _if_ you survive your lower defensive stat being checked. All I'm saying is that they're cooking up something so broken with Defiant 4...

I was in the comments on reddit this week saying most of this same stuff. In Duels, end of turn effects are just unfun and warp the meta in a unique way.

2:31 As [Plegia's Mad King] "Gangrel" once said when you max his level as a 5 star unit: "Don't let worthless emotions get in the way of cold, hard reality." "These Heroes? They're pawns, not people" "So go use your power." "Get your hands dirty, or you might regret that you didn't." I got my hands dirty and made wedding cordelia a brave bow user and she it is so satisfying to use her now 🚬

Emblem Ike's kit is just bad design, literally impossible to take down for almost any unit

9:56: Fernand jump scare lol.

for me the worst effect in the game is the "in combat" dmg before attacking it even shut down vantage... and the worst stuff over all in the game for me is refreshing

The best part is that the only way to be introduced to elimine outside of heroes is MARIO KART.

Effects that shouldn’t have been added Emblem Ike: “Nervous sweating” I literally have to surrender 2/3 of the time because almost nobody I have can beat him like my brother in Christ what were they thinking.😅 I like the idea of emblem hero’s on paper but they just feel like another overpowered cash benefit for whales and the off chance that you’re even lucky enough to get “ONE” you can’t even fodder them cause you’d rather merge them. Burn damage is also stupid.🔥💀 Edit “I also used duo Lyon during the tempest trials and couldn’t finish it as it took longer cause of the end turn effect stopping me from enemy phasing.😔

I only play FEH for the art, I am going to be real

Where's Emblem Ike?

NUF, I would say, was the point of no return for FEH. It’s too much of a blanket negation for so many skills.

i gave up on aether raids years ago. now i just see how much of the content i can beat with meme teams... i only invest in sword infantry. spent at least an hour last night trying to see if i could beat infernal fallen Lloyd with my team of 4x sword infantry, but i wasn't willing to inherit units out of my collection to get spd/def unity or atk/spd unity to get the job done.

One of the new effect i really dislike is the burning/melting stuff

On a different note I think that one of the best skills in feh are the near and far save skills.

I won’t lie, I love Elimine and I still (begrudgingly) use her on my Astra teams even with Freyr out. False start is really good that’s not a lie, but the main units it hindered were already incredibly broken and needed a counter. I also got Bride Catria so late into her being the meta that by the time I did, I just didn’t want to use her. I still to this day don’t like that effect, but I totally understand why people used it. Freyr is the real villain in this whole ordeal because by taking away the thing that countered so much of the meta, accidentally brought back those units that were nerfed. I saw Catria teams pop up everywhere after his release. Elimine didn’t deserve them countering her into essentially being useless nowadays. Really excited for the inevitable remix where I’m hoping they really take time to make her a useful unit again.

I just found out in Path of Radiance when Ashnard get powered up by the Medalion he becomes Green but the Fire Emblem Heroes Developers decides not to do that for some reason.

Null follow up was the worst thing to be added to feh

The recently released Loki alt makes the "end action" even more annoying. It activates on both enemy and player phrase meaning there is no counter play if the enemy or AI decides to drop Loki in cardinal directions of your units.

I somehow keep playing not putting a single penny... Because it is too hard in my country

the 5 morbillion pvp facilties, the contant aaddition of more shit to farm, teir 4 skills, Feh pass.

i dont like when mechanics are tied to a single unit on your team. things like sacred seals, emblem effects, summoner support, and cpatain skills. i wish i could apply these things to every unit on my team.

Just in general, I think they shouldn't have made so many things trigger automatically. A tactics game should be about meaningful choices, and everything triggering automatically removes choice. I absolutely hated Save scumming when those skills came out. (I kinda still do.) Chain Guard from Engage did the idea better, where the "saving" unit has to specifically choose guarding another unit as their action. And it's especially silly on some effects like Rally Spectrum, Assign Decoy, and the Dragon Vein series since those are _real Fire Emblem effects_ that you originally had to choose manually in their games of origin.

Tbh I more so ask "why do they push these effects" than "why do these effects exist". Pre-combat damage stacking: The idea itself was fine. But why can you stack them when most modern units only cap at like 50-60 HP Warping: FEH maps are too small for them to abuse this effect this much. Special Jumping / Scowl: At this point everyone just feels like they have a 1 cooldown special. If there's one effect that makes me use the latter question...that goes to Pathfinder. Idk how ppl think abt that effect but i find that the way it works is really stupid lmao

I hope nerf that ike and duo lyon for that more broken units in that game

2:55 HUH?!?!?!?!? DOES BRO NOT PLAY AETHER RAIDS OR SOMETHING?!?! NAAAAAAAAAA HES THE MOST TOXIC ARD UNIT IN THE GAME. HES ON LITERALLY EVERY MAP. Id say his ARD presence is on par with his SD presence FOR SURE.

Fuck damage reduction... and getting a second attack for free.

Elimine wasn't a problem. She was annoying but given how easy AR is apparently with Galeforce strats I don't see the issue. Then again FEH meta players also complain about how absurd dealing with defense teams are so who knows.

When there's a third Lumera unit but TMS only got one banner and that's it... XD

As far a "we need to release a counter but we do much more damage than intended", False start was bad but not as bad as stated here. It could have only stopped buff sharing at start of turn, for example not shutting down OG!Ophelia. But yeah, it had to counter Hardy Fighter too. Anyway, you could win the res check or just have threats that needed to be shut down on multiple columns, so it had counterplay. Freyr was much worse. No counterplay here. Could have had some weird check thing like M!Veyle has. On countering tanks in general, start-of-combat damage has, again, no counterplay. So it is a bad solution. I don't know what "end your turn" is meant to counter, but it is not fun to play against, as it makes you just not play. Not playing a game when playing a game is not fun, who knew. Although it *is* a bad mechanic, it felt manageable on Foomortis because: - you chose when or how to initiate on him - it will not activate if you kill him With thing making it less manageable are: - Foomortis is hard to kill. Now we got it on D!Lyon and the counterplay is: - it will not activate if you kill him With things making it less manageable are: - 5 range - Res check for being even able to counter - Unavoidable start-of-combat damage - Unit also hits like a truck just on plain old "raw" numbers So D!Lyon probably kills you on first hit. I kinda lost the point I wanted to make. TL;DR: Elimine was not bad (strong effect), Freyr was worse (broken effect). Foomortis was bad (broken effect), but Freyr is probably worse (broken effect). D!Lyon is absolute worst, combining strong effects with broken effects.

I havent seen this video yet but the christmas banner and Seidr were mistakes

pre combat damage was a mistake

Gonna die on this hill and say. Elemine was healthy "strategic" counterplay to whatever shit show the buff meta was becoming. She was absolutely necessary. Running mutiple elemine isnt even a viable strategy.

It all started with guaranteed follow ups...

He is crazy and being mean sorry.

I don't like all the silly movement crap, that teleports like half the enemy team across the entire map in one turn. Maps should be bigger to stop that nonsense. Also having to do some lengthy math to work out if your unit is going to die or not is stupid. It's too much, there should be a limit to it, it's a game, not math class.

Elimine countered most Anima strategies. Zelda CDI "Good." AR-D strategies should be easily counterable because AR-D strategies are inherently unfun for everyone involved. The weaker AR-D is, the better, and i don't know how anyone can disagree with that.

all effects based around the enemy needing to kill one of your units are just irrelevant. i mean summoner duels is so underpopulated that i can just go into summoner duels r instantly scoop and get middle of the road rewards because pvp in fire emblem is just inherently bad in a game that is build around moving 10 units before the opponent does anything. so i would argue that lyon actualy has a good effect as that used correctly on offense can be such a cool strategy adn its not like its just free as you can't just dance him to shut down 2 units with the second trigger still hitting the same unit

canto was a mistake

Elimine was good for the game, stop coping.

Please play Granblue Fantasy Instead