Its a good idea to use an agressive offlaner for EG. Cause the enemy team would throw everything to EG’s carry and after that their offlaner could just swiped them all off.
You hate to see such a star filled roster like Elephant got eliminated, but Iceiceice is on fire this game. Haven't seen such a scary Nightstalker for a while.
You are right. I also have some good expectatiton for elephant, but maybe they got eliminated bcoz they are bad from the start? They got 8th in the group stage. I still dont get it why they are so bad in this TI. Is it bcoz coach rotk? Idk
ROTK cornered his team when he took that Silencer and EG's last pick Nightstalker was on point. I don't think you can overstate just how well Iceiceice understood his role in this game, really good execution he was running at heroes all the time and that made the game really one-sided.
Exactly. That night stalker is so good. He played his role very well, he was everywhere, until he became a monster. You also see at 12:27, he challenge sven with god strength to a duel. Damn.
RTZ being the big magnet to all the spells and items being used by Elephant to burst him down just won them the game. After RTZ dies, no spells and items are left for Elephant to keep on fighting.
I just want to thanks the team draft and giving iceiceice aggressive hero that he can finally shine. Elephant played ok but EG finally back to its Animajor form. They fought well for rosh and teamfights finally and rtz not choking finally and bringing something to the fight makes them finally in the right form to be a dark horse...
Yea finally some decent draft. Wouldn’t call them dark horse though, shudda been one of the favourite with pretty muc all star players but were underachieving
U sure bout Elephant played OK? I hope we watched the same match cuz elephant played like shit and they honestly deserved to lose after playing like that
In TI5 round 1 upper bracket, Secret (where RTZ played) lost to Ehome (where ROTK played) with 0:2 and none of the two teams pick luna in all two games. You must remeber things wrong.
@@yanzhuozhoo oh shit, my bad. I remember about the conversation from rtz when he picked Luna for Puppey to win the lower bracket (until they got eliminated). I think the other chinese team were surprised with the Luna pick (because she was never played before)
@@hafidhzuhdi5784 yeah the match you mentioned is btwn Secret and Ig in lower bracket round 2 ti5, where Arteezy picked Luna twice after losing game 1 and made a 2:1 win. That IG team had ChuaN, Faith and Ferrari _430 who were the old IG members which won the TI2 championship against NAVI (Dendi, Puppy...).
underrated, they dont need heavy farming on this meta. bkb will destroy support late game which are all paper and no late game fight... they should end early
@@DrinkWater713 so true. Those are legendary players, and just had a bad season. Crusader try hards can keep calling them chokers, but there’s no lie that they’ve delivered consistent stellar performances for years.
@@allygaterr If you always lose big matches regardless of which team you go to or how great your teammates are, what does that make you? A chinese legend dota player.
the game JUST ENDED!? How did you do this??? What a game, by the way. Shame they faced off so early. would have loved to see both of these teams go far edit: also totally agree with others that seeing EG finally draft something more dynamic, especially for iceiceice, was great to see and a total game changer for them
Yep, even in this game. EG looked better, but Elephant made the same mistakes. Somnus and Eurus underperforming, EG sups with the help of NS granted a better map vision and it decided.
It's more than that. It's like they have a team of chokers who can't play their normal game under stress. The individual bosses are notable for having the curse as RTZ in Ti.
Storm and sven damage items got delayed so much because of too many disables of EG, iceiceice could even manage to challenge sven in right click battle with gs on.
their story to TI is harsh. Disband of TI8 psg.lgd, Somnus and fy form their own team. Sponsor problem with 4AM and they have to buy eurus/paparazzzi with their own money
Vision is on the side of EG once the night time has come they will hunt their prey and EG drafts has low cd heroes unlike elephant all have a high cd on their heroes skills
Maybe its their game plan heading into TI, making opponent think that Ice would tank the sacrificial pick for most drafts. The value he brings to each fight by foreseeing and making movements to deter enemy setup justifies why EG should design more plays around him rather than the usual pos1/4 setup.
Man, they all look washed up to me tbh. Somnus looked shaky during group stage, just didnt feel like LGD Somnus. Eurus isn't playing at his best. On top of that is there really no other talented support player than Super in China? He'd be better co-coach or something, not a player. Overall this team looked very mediocre, nothing special. Even though they're all good and experienced players, this team lacks synergy, teamplay. It's pretty much guaranteed disband, they couldn't win anything whole year and failed at TI. Sad to see my boy FY lose like this :(
bruh why fy have to carry this team ? tide dont even open combat with ravage storm die back to icex3 every time even known he know 1 silent and he die sven die while 3 support stand right behind his back and they all know EG are waiting for them every time they try to catch someone they use every ulti and bkb possible wtf
They have no coordination at all. I think only somnus and fy have some coordination because they played together before. Yang is randomly running around the map without vision and super is just a ranged creep. This team is just not working out, hope they sort it out and replace players/ practice on their communication, it feels so bad to be Fy fan.
@@waduheck7860 lol bro elephant on paper is the strongest Chinese team. Somnus paparazzi fy super. All more veteran players compared to lgd players except ame
This is not how it works , 90% of time a full stacked team lose , cuz of chimestry and coordination , the team that wins is the team with the best balance , just take zxemple of the galacticos , brazil 2006 in football , the more the players are stars , the more egos start growing and the less they will sacrifice or try to lower themselves to help others
Look at YANG saving his ulti while they are in the clash. Lol he just walking around until he die. He is the only one who didn't pop ULTI. 10:55 and then 11:47 he Bought Back tp bot then use ULTI into 2heroes while his team doesnt have any ULTI. NO SILENCE. Like bruh...
The Sven pick wasn’t the way to go. And silencer needed some early to mid item to have impact even just force staff or an atos would have made a big diff in getting people off of NS’s silence. Prolly Lifestealer, Chaos Knight or Naga to play into this line would have been better but yea out played and out drafted in the end. GG EG
He made such a bad call. He saw Luna used ultimate and let the ultimate beam hit him with out bkb. I know he wants to prolong the fight, but it cost the game. Bad move
Many great names in Elephant, paparazi,maybe,fy but i think after playing for many years they finally lost motivation. Instead new and fresh team like IG and PSG are looking sharper and hungrier.
In pubs Abed hero pool is actually large, he can play Tinker, Invoker, Meepo and many more and some unorthodox mid like Snapfire, why coach let's him pick like that
This is not a pub, its TI and in pubs you can pretty much play for yourself, rtz needs someone who creates a bit of space and abed does that with fast tempo heroes that scale not to farm but fight like the spirits and puck
feelsbadman for fy and maybe(somnus) they are talented player that deserved an aegis on their profile. The closest year was TI8 , yet some phenomenon just happen as we all know
It's still quite worrying for EG. They didn't really change things other than the NS pick. Play style remains largely similar. They still rely on abed space creation, rtz massive farm. Only difference is iceiceice is more active and found success. Feels that it is an easy counter by top tier teams.
@@cnaizhen huh? Seems like you need to learn comprehension. I stated my point. Should I repeat for you? Well then. All the teams that are part of this ti10 are all top tier.
@@cnaizhen ohh well maybe you didn't get it.. So I will explain. You just said that top tier teams can easily counter thier play styles, but if that is true then elephant should have already done that and won since elephant is considered as a top tier team because they have eurus, fy, yang,sommnus and super.