Egyptian Chariot Wheels? 

Sure, but that's really the point. Wyatt did not have any of that extra gear. He was not a technical diver, did not have a dive computer, used ordinary air, and did not take the requisite decompression period. In short, the equipment and training that he had was not rated for a 200 ft dive, even if the area he claimed to be diving in was 200ft because it is actually much deeper in the spot where he claimed to dive. So the question is which part of Wyatt's story do we chose to believe? His compass? His bravodo and luck in avoiding the bends? Or none of it?

@@avi8r66 I am hardly making excuses for Wyatt. I've quite open in calling him a liar, a fraud, a con man, and a charlatan. I don't know how much more blunt I can be than that.

@@avi8r66 You are forgiven. Don't sweat it 😊

Ha ha ha... so true.

Great point!

I agree - Wadjmose's personal chariot.

Gold foil was only put on royal chariots and only for decorative purposes. Egyptian chariots never used iron so rust was never a problem.

@@ancientegyptandthebible Thanks for replying to a lay person. Gaining knowledge and inspiration in metallurgy now from you via some extra study. Lol. So I'll assume the hub was of bronze metal, hence bronze age, okay. Gotcha

It's hard to say exactly what the Egyptians used for tires, but it definitely looks organic. My guess it that it is boiled leather.

I'm thinking that is the subject for another video. You do keep me busy. ;)

Ron was off on some of his stuff. But there's no doubt that Mount Horeb is definitely in Midian. Saudi.

@@philipps6032 Ha! Wyatt was not correct in much of his nonsense. But Arabia is Still Saudi today. Where exactly is Midian? So Moses went for a leisurely stroll of 800 miles for his sheep.

​@@philipps6032 You are so wrong. Go back and do your research again in detail.

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Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .

I think this is all bull crap. We have different cars today and they all have different wheels. Why couldn’t the Egyptian have different wheels depending on what they’re doing or using it for. Maybe this wheel came off of a horse drawn carriage or something and not necessarily a chariot. Could it not be at one of the Israelites wheels, who knows… and have you never heard of underwater cameras that can be pushed down far below the diver to take pictures? This is just none sense!

I use the NA28 as my preferred critical edition of the NT. I think that the NA28 is the best edition of the NT available today for scholars and exegetes. The Crossway Greek NT is a good readers edition. It wasn't quite sufficient for my needs, but I'm not the target audience either. The purpose of Crossway's edition was to get lay readers back in the Greek text using a simplified edition that won't confuse the reader--although you still need to know Greek to read it. 😉

@@ancientegyptandthebible I had wondered if this was the case! Thanks for finally helping me find the answer. I am holding an NA28 in my profilepicture lol

They didn't it's ceremoniel wheel

Sure does.

What about the dozens of other extant chariot wheels that have been discovered in Egypt? Why are they designed in the same way as Yuya's? The reason is simple. That design worked. Wyatt's chariot wheel design could never work, even if it were a real design and not a ludicrous forgery. And yes, Wyatt's wheel was a ridiculous, absolutely outlandish and ludicrous, fake. There is no possible way it could function as a proper chariot wheel. I'm not the one being silly.

Not sure. It was given to him sometime during the reign of Amenhotep III.

Chariots are made of perishable materials. There is no way that they would have survived long enough under those conditions to form coraline algae. The only clear photo Wyatt provided of a so-called chariot wheel simply cannot be a chariot wheel. That fraud alone should be enough to dump his junk ideas. I don't understand why people go the extra mile to defend this guy's lies knowing they are lies.

We don't know how big they were since we only have Wyatt's say so and never gave us measurements. And the wheels were thought to be gold because that's what Wyatt took a photograph of, a gold covered wheel on the sea floor. This idea of gold covered chariot wheels does not come from archaeology or the Bible.

The Mesopotamians developed the wheel around 2300 BC as an extension to composite bow-making technology. After that, the chariot spread across the ANE until it was imported into Egypt around 1650 BC.

Nobody ever got anything from Europeans. Sadly, Europeans got/“stole” vastly “everything” from everyone else.

Considering I have multiple speech impediments, I'm going to call that a success. 😁

I cannot say if they are lying as lying speaks to intent, and I am not a mind-reader. After all, incompetence is practically indistinguishable from malfeasance. But at the same time, are they saying what is true? That is a question of the truth or falsehood of their statements, and the answer to that is no.

@B D Are you saying that Rohl has never lied?

Don't include David Rohl in this. He is a 'yam suf' was border lakes crossing guy. He thinks Wyatt had as much chance of finding the crossing at Nuweiba Beach as finding Big Foot.

@@501Mobius I will agree that Rohl is not included in the Nuweiba fiasco. But the original question was not restricted to just the scope of this video. The questioner is really asking about the Patterns of Evidence movies in general, and specifically the men these movies have lionized. And Rohl has done much to subvert the truth.

@@ancientegyptandthebible Rohl said Wyatt's wheel looked like it was off a pump valve. I don't see the Patterns of Evidence reference in this video. Rohl has told me more than once he was done with me. :) Recently, after I called Josephus's story about Moses being a great Egyptian war commander and marrying a Kushite princess cock n' bull.

The photograph comes directly from Wyatt Archaeological Research, the official organization of Ron Wyatt. And the copyright on the photo is attributed to Wyatt Archaeological Research and it is claimed that this photo was taken by Wyatt himself. The photo was sourced directly from the people making the claim to its authenticity. Wyatt claimed this was a chariot wheel and he used this photo for years in his presentations. If the object is being fraudulently represented as a chariot wheel, then the fault rests with those making the fraudulent claim, not the critic pointing out the fraud. Here is the link: wyattmuseum.com/wyatt/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chariot-wheel-660x330.jpg

Already begun to... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-86JiCARprxI.html

@ANTI-ATHIESTS Okay, I got the photo direct from the Wyatt Archaeological Research. It is the best, highest resolution photograph available (660 x 330 pixels). That resolution is more than sufficient to accurate assess how that chariot wheel was made. Nevertheless, the problem with Wyatt's wheel is not that it has 4 spokes. That is just a red herring. The number of spokes really doesn't matter much. The actual problem is the overall design of the wheel. If you look closely at the 4-spoke wheel from Userhat, it looks more similar to the Yuya chariot wheel than it does to the Wyatt chariot wheel. That is a big, big problem.

> It doesn''t matter if these wheels don't match up. Yes, it does. Because a wheel that is a forgery shows that Wyatt was a liar. > There is other evidence. 1.A pillar engraved by Solomon on both sides of the sea. There is no evidence that said pillar was engraved by Solomon. There is nothing in the Bible that says Solomon erected a pillar there at all. And all the evidence suggests that the pillar dates to the Roman period or later. So this is nothing more than a tall tale by Ron Wyatt. > 2. On the other side the rock at Horeb. The rock that Moses struck was at Kadesh, not Horeb (Num 20:1). This is gross ignorance of the Bible that Wyatt has gotten his gullible followers to believe. > 3. Mt. Sinai which matches all records of it's Biblical description., etc. No, it’s not. Exod 3:1 states that Moses pastured his flocks to the west side of the wilderness of Midian then came upon Mt Horeb. The wilderness of Midian is the eastern Sinai Peninsula. This means that Mount Horeb had to be west of the Gulf of Aqaba (modern Red Sea). Wyatt’s Mt Sinai in no way matches the Biblical description. In fact, the Bible uses well-known Egyptian place names that we can verify that shows that the Reed Sea was in the northwest Sinai. Therefore, we know that the real Mt Sinai had to be somewhere in the Sinai Peninsula and not the Arabian Peninsula. But hey, if you want to ignore the Bible to follow that false prophet Ron Wyatt, that’s your decision.

The problem has nothing to do with the number of spokes, but all the other construction details, the lies about the location, and implausibility of preservation prior to the deposition of coraline algae that has to occur prior to coral formation. The number of spokes is the only detail of Wyatt's wheels that are not at issue.

I do believe that Mount Sinai is in the Sinai Peninsula, as oddly enough the name suggests, because I believe in what the Bible says about the geography. I don't let hucksters and charletans interpret the Bible for me or distract me by tickling my ears as Wyatt has done to so many. How is warning people about the dangerous teachings of Wyatt in any way scoffing or mocking the Bible itself?

@@ancientegyptandthebible is the mountain Jebel kashm et Tarif?

@Roman_Warlord I doubt that you know enough about the Bible to make that statement with any kind of certainty.

@Roman_Warlord > Well, No muslim ever waa able ro refute against my Trinity arguments. If you were Unitarian or modalist, watch how I wold be destroying your lies. Irrelevant. I'm neither a muslim, unitarian, nor a modalist. I'm also not a stamp collector. So your arguments against stamp collecting are neither here nor there. 😜 > Again, let me emphasize, watch the exodus series from HOLY LAND SITE YT. Let me also emphasize. The arguments from all these video series is exactly the same... worthless. > Warning: The pastor also uses the ron wyattswheel discovery, ignore that part and watch rest of the things. All that proves is that the pastor is just as gullible as everyone else who believed Wyatt. Just because a pastor believes it doesn't make it evidence. > Luckily, I dont know much of Ancient history to refute you. Maybe in the future. This is what is called a self-refuting admittal.

​@Ancient Egypt and the Bible You have been deceived or clearly has an ulterior motive to bring accusations against someone that you don't even bother to check out before making these baseless untruthful statements.

Even if such things were found, which I highly doubt the veracity of, they don't actually show that they belonged to the charioteers of the exodus pharaoh. Simply put these chariots would not survive the harsh salt water conditions.

@@ancientegyptandthebible You're not seeing the bigger picture here my friend! Ron Wyatt, authentically; traced the Exodus route from Egypt all the way to Mt. Sinai. including where they crossed the Red Sea to get to the mountain. He also discovered other sites that they visited before they finally reached the mountain of God. And everything fits perfectly with what has been recorded in Genesis. The 'Split Rock at Horeb and the alter they placed the golden calf on has also been found, plus the real Mt. Sinai All these discoveries have been verified & validated by numerous researchers. The chariots etc, have long since disintegrated but God in his wisdom encrusted the wreckage in coral before it did so. This preserved the evidence for the appointed time for it to be revealed. Only two people had gold chariot wheels the Pharaoh and the High Priest, so the gold chariot wheel that was found belonged to one or the other.. All this evidence that the Word of God is true can be viewed here on RU-vid.

@@spiritoftruth56 I appreciate your kind tone in discussing this. However, I should point out a few matters that you may not have considered. > Ron Wyatt, authentically; traced the Exodus route from Egypt all the way to Mt. Sinai. including where they crossed the Red Sea to get to the mountain. Unfortunately, what Wyatt traced contradicts what the Bible itself says about the route. Exod 3:1 alone contradicts this route. Not to mention the location of the Yam Suf which is said to be in close proximity to Pithom and Migdol (Exod 14:2; Num 33:7). > He also discovered other sites that they visited before they finally reached the mountain of God. And everything fits perfectly with what has been recorded in Genesis. But what about the evidence that contradicts his identifications? > The 'Split Rock at Horeb... Were you aware that this is an interpretation that Wyatt added to his reading of Num 20:11? The Bible does not say anywhere that the rock was split. Furthermore, were you aware that according to the Bible this event took place at Kadesh, not Horeb (Num 20:1-14)? Wyatt's split rock is in the wrong place if it is near Horeb and is the rock Moses struck. Are we supposed to add to the Word of God or change what it says? > ...and the alter they placed the golden calf on has also been found... How do you know this was where the golden calf was place? How do you know it was even an altar? It looks nothing like an ancient altar. And how do you know that it dates to the time of the exodus and was ever used by the Israelites or for a golden calf? > plus the real Mt. Sinai How do you know his is the real Mt. Sinai? What makes this the "real" Mt. Sinai? > All these discoveries have been verified & validated by numerous researchers. How many of these researchers are actually qualified to make a verification? How many are hapless amateurs viewing this with eyes of faith? > The chariots etc, have long since disintegrated but God in his wisdom encrusted the wreckage in coral before it did so. This preserved the evidence for the appointed time for it to be revealed. Do you realize that the chariots would have disintegrated before those coral deposits would have formed? Once the leather straps holding carriage together were eaten away and the axle block split apart, there would have been nothing holding the two wheels apart. The entire chariot would have collapsed into a heap of rotting wood. Are you aware that coral deposits in nature take hundreds of years to form? > Only two people had gold chariot wheels the Pharaoh and the High Priest, so the gold chariot wheel that was found belonged to one or the other.. But what if the gold chariot wheel is a fake? Are you aware that no Egyptian chariot wheel ever looked like that? It's not even feasible as a chariot wheel. What's worse is that it is a bad fake, produced by someone who did not know how a chariot actually works and how a real chariot wheel is made or what it is even supposed to look like. > All this evidence that the Word of God is true can be viewed here on RU-vid. God's Word is true. But what Wyatt has done does not reflect what is true. We have already seen that Wyatt distorted the incident in Numbers 20. Wyatt has changed what the Bible says about the physical geography of the Exodus route, presented a forgery as a true chariot wheel, and even lied about where he was when he took his photographs. So if Wyatt is not telling the truth, how can we take what he says as evidence for God's Word? By using this Wyatt's work as proof for the Bible, those RU-vid videos open the Bible up to easy ridicule by its critics.

@@ancientegyptandthebible All the discoveries made by Ron Wyatt were authenticated by Nassif Mohammed Hassan, Director of Antiquities in Cairo, who said the findings were definitely 18th dynasty antiquities. My reply to your rambling answer to my previous comment would simply be to say that you have been led to the water it's up to you whether or not you drink it!

@@spiritoftruth56 Who? The Director of Antiquities is high profile position. No such person has ever held the position of the Director of Antiquities. There is no evidence that Wyatt presented his discoveries to any Director of Antiquities named Hassan. This looks like another fictitious yarn spun by Wyatt.

The Egyptians made models of various things. Most were very small and would not have been confused for a real chariot wheel. The other problems are that this looks nothing like an Egyptian chariot wheel and so-called chariot wheel has evidence of modern industrial processes. It's definitely modern even if we assume that Wyatt was telling the truth about what he found. On the other hand, he wasn't telling the truth about other aspects of the account, such as, where he was when he found it. When he lied about other things, can we really extend him the benefit of the doubt that he's telling the truth since he's a self-impeached witness? Regrettably, given what we know of both the evidence and the account, the best explanation is that he is lying. I know our instinct is to go out on a limb to avoid slandering other believers, especially when they seem so genuine. The problem is good con-men have to seem genuine to be persuasive, and the mentally ill (via delusion or sociopathy) can appear genuine because they don't know or don't care to know better. None of these situations are good reasons for the church to set aside it's discernment. Con-men and those with these kinds of mental illness should not be in a position where they are authoritatively teaching. And it is the shame of Christian leadership that more has not been done to protect the flock from these predators.

You can't compare early ones to late ones. Early war wagons were nothing more than transportation to the battlefield. By the Early Iron Age, they were basically the tanks of their era.

whether they are transportation or actual combat vehicles, they are a huge advantage either way. positioning is huge

Yes, hand crafted. Not all the pyramid blocks are the same size. Each block varies in size. But each one is customized to achieve the best fit. Ergo, hand crafted. No machines were involved.

Well, the wheel has not been curated until a 1000 years after the pyramids. Furthermore, the wheel is not necessary since the Egyptians build their pyramids using ships and sledges.

@Ancient Egypt and the Bible I was taught the great pyramids were all built before ancient Egyptians had knowledge of the "wheel" Which leads to the ultimate question, "SO... how did they build these wonders without the wheel?" Then answers scale from "ships and sledges" to "ancient aliens" but everyone of these answers all presume there are no wheels used in the process...possibly huge logs used to roll such large megalithic stones but hardly wheels...and if not the log theory then perhaps some lost alien technology lost today...I sit here telling them the lost tech is the wheel 🤭 sorry to rant

@@Almighty_GOD Ships and sledges is how they made the pyramids. The wheel was not invented until ca. 2500 BC. The wheel was a byproduct of compound bow-making technology.

@Ancient Egypt and the Bible do you believe in a possibility of alien assistance as theorized by ancient astronaut archeologists propose?

@@Almighty_GOD No.

Wyatt's wheel looks like a movie prop just saying.

@@nickdixom543 too be fair i just seen th documentary and hadnt even seen that photo...there were dozen of photos provided, many showing different types of wheels. even verifying what the bible said about the select few of 'choice' chariots. that side by side of the 2 wheels, if you watch the footage captured that style chariot wheel was found multiple times...

@@808fishman8 the fact that he claimed to find the ark, and in the video that I saw of him talking about it, he said that it was under the "cross hole" where the cross was implanted and said that some way or another he thought a dry flake of Christ's blood fell on him somehow and he blacked out or had some kind of crazy experience or something. it was so outlandish. this alone completely discredits him in my mind.

I don't know why Wyatt fans always use that red herring. It's almost like they are too stupid to consider any other objection. No mention in the video was made regarding the number of spokes, and frankly the number of spokes is irrelevant to this actually being a real chariot wheel. The problem with the wheel has to do with its general construction, and in particular the design of its axle assembly.

Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .

What's your point? How does this have anything to do with the fraudulent work of Wyatt?

The problem is not the number of spokes, but the fact that the axle assembly is completely wrong. I don't understand why Wyatt supporters can't seem to grasp this simple fact.

Not for 18th Dynasty

This unfortunately avoids the entire issue . The problem (contrary to Wyatt apologists) is not the spoke count, but the axle assembly. And who is Wadjmose of Dyn 18 supposed to be? I'm an Egyptologist, and I have no idea who you are talking about? 🤷‍♂

@@ancientegyptandthebible That is rather worrying.

I am afraid I don't buy axle assembly issues. You seem to be comparing a ceremonial (Yuya) chariot to an innovation in design. You must realise that Amenhotep II is a silly argument doing the rounds at this time. It is utterly impossible on so many grounds that A II had anything to do with Israel - you usually have to be born to interact with other humans.

@@iannsheats4181 Are you kidding me? The Wyatt wheel is not an innovation in design. It was a design worthy of Fred Flintstone, not someone who was driving a real chariot. We have several examples of real chariots that survive in archaeology. Axle assemblies matter for real (not fictitious) chariots.

@@ancientegyptandthebible As you are aware Ron was smart lad - screwing up a fake wheel was not his style.

What can be a better use of my time that reminding Wyatt fans that they are following a charlatan and cult leader?

> So, at the point of the picture. And a military veteran who loves all military history. Little known fact, not all military equipment is the same. Certainly not civilian equivalents. So, just because Yuya's wheel had six spokes, in no way means that the 1000s of Egyptian military chariots did not have hardier wheels with less spokes as there have been found military industrial camps in ancient Egypt where chariots were built in large enough quantities to support a military of 30k men. Including 1000s of chariots. As well as training facilities. Straw man fallacy. I don’t know why Wyatt fans fixate on the number of spokes, when I never mention once the number of spokes being a problem. THE PROBLEM IS HOW THE AXLE ASSEMBLY (THE HUB) AND HOW THE ENTIRE WHEEL WAS DESIGNED. You might be a military veteran, but you really have no idea how a chariot actually works, do you? > Did you check to compare that military chariots had the same number of, seemingly thin, spokes as what one should safely assume would be a high end and more advanced chassis of a royal's chariot? We have many scenes of chariot warfare from ancient Egypt. In those scenes, the standard chariot was the six-spoke chariot-there is no evidence that any sort of special heavy wheel was in use, let alone a wheel that would be so impractical for chariotry as the one found by Wyatt. And every chariot wheel found to date has thin spokes and a hub that uses ferules and a long tube for the axle. > If it turns out that the military chariot had four spokes, which I don't know what they looked like do you? Then Yuya's chariot is irrelevant to the discussion. Hypothetical fallacy. But yes, we do know what military chariots looked like. We have many examples of extant chariot wheels, not just Yuya’s. Examples of military chariot wheels have been recovered from the moats outside of military fortresses. And we have learned that all chariots in ancient Egypt were made as weapons of war. This civilian use vs military use distinction is an anachronism that didn’t exist in ancient Egypt. Chariot wheels are a common find in Egypt. Common enough that they are displayed in many museums. The design of their axle assemblies is the same across the board. Yuya’s chariot is simply one well-preserved example of chariot technology that is contemporary with Wyatt’s wheel. But we find the same technology being used across all Egyptian chariot wheels. Wyatt’s chariot wheel is a stupid, amateurish forgery-nothing more. > Also, most likely, Yuya's chariot was probably of a higher quality. Your average chariot soldier is NOT going to get gold laden super wheels. Their chariot should be more rugged, and by rugged I also mean cheaper to build. That makes no sense if what you’re saying is true. Yuya’s chariot has little gold except on the carriage. The wheels of Yuya’s chariot have no gold on the spokes or tread, and only thin gold foil that covers the bronze axle assembly. Wyatt’s wheel has gold everywhere: the hub, the spokes, and the tread-no chariot was ever made like this. If Yuya’s chariot is the superior chariot, why does Wyatt’s chariot wheel have more gold on it than even on any of the SIX SURVIVING CHARIOTS of from the tomb of King Tutankhamun? That is unless Wyatt’s wheel is not covered in real gold and the wheel is a fake. > Whereas I would assume Yuya's would be a craftsman's best workmanship for sport and hunting. A military chariot is going to be built for endurance over rugged terrain and battlefield maneuvers. Wyatt’s wheel is completely unsuitable as a chariot wheel. It is a wheel design would feel every bump in the road and wobble uncontrollably. Stop being ridiculous. It’s not built for endurance or rugged terrain-it is designed to dupe the gullible and credulous. > So, you seem to be attacking the opposition's claim based on the metal content of the four-spoke wheel. No, I’m not. I am attacking the opposition’s claim based upon the design of the wheel: a design that never existed in antiquity, a design that would be completely impractical as a functional chariot wheel, and a design that is inconsistent with the technology and construction techniques of the time. > The economy of the wheel which is a fantastic point. And later on, you say that they did in fact experiment with 4, 6, and 8 spoke wheels. Again, number of spokes is not the point. The design of the wheel is the point. Please, don’t be obtuse. > Chances are likely, as Wyatt was in and out and not conducting the most careful analysis. He probably made wrong assumptions about the wheels. Often, as much as he got right, he got as much or more wrong. What happens when an "archeologist" is in a hurry I'm afraid. Wyatt was no "archaeologist." He was a con-artist who planted fake artifacts in order to fool the people who were funding his expeditions. The wheel was not an archaeological find, but bait to string his mark along. > So, the two best examples which you highlight, are from the 18th dynasty that drove out the Hyksos under Ahmose 1. That is also around the time these military training sites they found were from. The question is, if the Exodus happened, it was likely under Ahmose 2, and after his much more notable father Thutmosis 3 who represented the height of Egyptian military prowess. I’m not sure what you are driving at here, except that I think you are very confused about your Egyptian history. The successor of Thutmosis III was Amenhotep II, not Ahmose II. Ahmose II was not even king until the 6th century BC. And all the evidence we have from the Bible and historical evidence suggests that the exodus took place during the reign of Ramesses II, not Amenhotep II. > So, the question is (I doubt the Al Nuweiba transit somewhat), did Egyptian military chariots have four spokes or did Wyatt mistranslate. False dichotomy fallacy. One, the number spokes is a straw man. I’m not making the claim that Egyptian chariots didn’t have four spokes. Second, Wyatt mistranslating is not the only option. Wyatt could have intentionally been trying to deceive his funders, his viewers, and you. > One argument I see against this is obvious, WOOD FLOATS! What is the relevance of this to a drowning event? > However, if Al Nuweiba did receive an epic miracle of two 900 foot walls of water. That’s an epic miracle that requires other miracles to support and is impossible given that the Bible claims a wind from the east drive the waters apart (Exod 14:21). No wind of that speed (3000 kph) has ever existed on this planet, and such wind speeds are only comparable to the conditions found on Neptune. Why bother drowning Pharaoh’s army when they could be simply blown away? Or pick up enough sand in the wind to strip all the flesh off of their bones? Are you really that naïve? > When they collapsed, could they have pushed as much as 10% of the chariots deep into the sea silt? That is all assuming the impossibility of said miracle occurring at Nuweiba. However, that in no way explains the fraudulent appearance of Wyatt’s chariot wheel that is just resting on the surface ready to be photographed.

@@ancientegyptandthebible Wow! I didn't even attack you, nor did I remotely claim Wyatt as a credible archeologist. But, apparently, I stirred up a considerable hornet's nest. I will require a bit of time to read through your vitriolic response. LOL You're right, I wrote that late at night, I knew Amenhotep 2, my bad. That's what I meant.

@@ancientegyptandthebible So, if you read the text carefully, the wind was most likely to dry the sand for walking over a 24 hr period before they could go. The wind was not what was holding the waters back. The text, considering ancient hebrew's limited amount of words and their usage, it was God's Hand over the waters, not the wind. The wind was for drying the sand. There would be ZERO, NONE, NO naturalistic way for the waters to part. Also, I'm not a Wyatt fan. Never said I as. I never said or intoned he was an archeologist. He clearly angers you. Wyatt is clearly wrong where the crossing would have had to happen. There are several points where Nuweiba would allow a few to escape. But, to it's South, the mountain range goes to the sea. The wall that turned them back is South of it. They would have eventually been trapped between the Egyptian Army going around their own territory the "Sinai Peninsula" was at that time as today. And the Strait leading into the sea of Aqaba. So, how did they cross? The text largely seems to refuse most of Wyatt's claims. In regard to the wheels, I was asking you an honest question as I was curious. Did Wyatt actually say they were all golden leafed wheels with four spokes or was he just showing that the coral at Al Nuweiba were "wheel shaped." You see, I was curious about that detail. You fixate on the image, and I was curious if you were arguing his actual point. Or just taking a cheap shot at his lazy research. It seems Wyatt really ticks you off. Especially for you to go off like that over an image in his video. So, I agree. His wheel is flawed. And considering I discredit Nuweiba as the site, it really doesn't matter to me. Also, wood and dead bodies after several days FLOAT! Also, your claim of Ramses II being the Exodus king is hilarious! It is now easier to discover that the Hyksos city of Avaris was where the Hebrews were during Joesph's day. Later writers changed the name as the city's title changed during Ramses II's time. In no way does it prove Ramses II was the Exodus pharaoh. And considering all the references to Israel, and the amount of time throughout Egyptian hieroglyphs. Ramses II is too late for the time it would take for them to get established in where they settled. There is zero chance Ramses II is the Exodus pharaoh. It was Amenhotep II. Amenhotep II first born didn't make it. His successor's stele between the Sphinx's paws confirms that he didn't survive. The Ipuwer papyrus predates Ramses II by the exact amount of time. Manetho is alleged to have written it happened during the time in question. It really seems like you are just trying to undermine the story because it defies your naturalistic point of view. I'm guessing you also discount the Big Bang, yes? Anything that suggests all of reality has a causal agent, and not the creation of mindless and blind natural forces is a problem for you. Full disclosure, to be fair, I'm an Old Earth Believer. Genesis and Exodus to me were written under the Sumerian influence, so some of the writing styles, and the Hebrew language as written, are difficult to interpret. And there is ample evidence for the Exodus during the 18th dynasty. Not Ramses the II. Ramses II in NO WAY lines up with the story as written. Amenhotep II absolutely does! And to be fair, Egyptians have been proven to not write about their losses. The way you argue it, strongly suggests that you don't take the account seriously, because it suggests miracles happen. So, you accept the later date at face value.

And how exactly are you an expert in Egyptian chariot wheels or anything else Egyptian? 😂

Stay in your moms basement

@@daduzadude1547 you got a ticket for loitering at wienerschnitzel

Bro found nothing and you're just stupid. See how those ad hominems work? 😉