Eiyuden Chronicles Switch Reviews Are VERY Interesting... WHAT HAPPENED?! 

Hell yeah

There's some QoL. It's just crits bitching about everything. You can even select the actions of each character will perform in auto-battle (Saves a lot of time and mana). Granted it's more old school than modern game. Very PS2 JRPG type of game. (Similar to Suikoden 5). It's my type of game too.

Just dont expect the game to do well, if you make a niche game then it's going to have a niche audience, JRPGs are already niche games to begin with besides a couple outliers like final fantasy and persona, alienating gamers even further with classic and retro game design with no QoL, a lack of a save anywhere feature will alienate any parent gamers who require this at a minimum to even consider a purchase, according to IGN the average gamer age in 2020 was 36, which means now the average gamer is around 40 years old, and most 40 year Olds are parents of at least one child and parents need either a robust auto save feature that is reliable or better yet a save anywhere feature, its not 2004 anymore when the average gamer was 20 years old and most likely had no children yet, the vast majority of gamers now are adults with children, and that's a fact, I was the same person who adored the suikoden series in the west for suikoden 3, 4, tactics and 5 on the ps2, I spent 2 years playing these games between 2005-2007, but times have changed, I'm not the same 21-23 year old who only knew these types of games, they were great for their time, but they are now extremely dated games that I just don't have time for them anymore, if you don't move with the times the times will change you, if this is the types of games rabbit and bear studios are going to make they aren't going to last very long, this isn't the same small gaming industry of the mid 2000s, this industry is massive now with twice as much competition, if gamers can't get what they want from your games they will look elsewhere, go ask Japan Studios what it's like to make games nobody wants to play, oh wait you can't because they don't exist anymore, why do you think p studio and square Enix are regarded as the two best JRPG developers? Because they moved with the times and changed their games to suit modern gamers, and now final fantasy 16 and persona 5 are the two best selling JRPGs of the last 10 years, yet still hundred heroes is my kind of game and I will eventually get it, I'll probably wait till next year when the game has more content, is relatively bug free, is balanced and is on sale digitally, a save anywhere feature can't even hurt the game, if anything it would make the game better

Yeah, as soon as I hear something like that from a reviewer, I tune the rest of their opinions out.

@@mathewhosier9739 A save anywhere feature is harmless. I wouldn't mind that at all.

Suikoden was poorly reviewed until it was a cult classic and became an amazing game. Gaming critics are meh.

@@thedivide3688 perfectly said

Maybe but the reviews for this game being negative isn’t about its story or gameplay really, it’s all about the bugs and optimization issues that are VERY apparent. I love suikoden, final fantasy is my favorite series, played and beat them all. This game on console has way too many issues. Black screen, some sound bugs and recruitment quest bugs not working right. And oh my god crashes. On ps5 it has crashed at least 10 times in 30 hours of play. That’s ridiculous. I understand the hate towards game journos right now but there are very valid complaints here, don’t be jaded

@@chandlerlowell5 Reviews for suikoden 2 were not about the story either. Translation was very bad at the time as well for example. I was there for every single suikoden release expect from 3 because it didn’t release in Europe for PS2. Was available later digitally on PS3.

@@Suikojunkie well if that’s what you’re talking about a bad translation among other things is a very fair criticism

hope like terms like Chud in your game and other modern day hate terms and politics. game translation was done by a company like sweet baby inc.

To be fair I truly think this was more demanding than Triangle Strategy and Octo series. It feels like 2D HD but it pops more 3D with some of the environments. I mean it definitely still feels like a 2D HD but certainly more 3Dized. I could almost call this a hybrid, much like the Switch. ;-)

Thrives? The switch had old hardware when it released in 2017, why would they prioritize the worst platform? When they can actually make the game run incredibly on actual current gen platforms that all play the game flawlessly in 4K at 60fps, the switch hardware is so bad that even a retro style game like this can only target 30fps and isn't even a stable 30fps, they should of just embraced the current gen tech on both ps5 and xsx/s and just didn't bother with last gen platforms like ps4, Xbox one and switch, this could have easily been a 120fps game at 1080p with HDR and VRR support, instead we have a ps2 game that is even too much for the switch, that's kind of pathetic

@@mathewhosier9739 yes thrives. Looking at this game, it's clear it should have been a priority seeing how these types of games sell on the Switch. There have been games that have made switch a priority and that enabled devs to look at other versions and make adjustment that freed up resources to improve the game tech wise. Prince of Persia did that and that game is a near locked to 60 on Switch, 120 on PS5/Series X.

@@XVa-uj8m this ain’t about the power, it’s about the audience… if you really think the audience on Xbox would eat this up more than the audience on Switch I want whatever you’re smoking.

@@mathewhosier9739 u r dumb or trolling

and when get the game and you get the dash boots to put then on nao when get cuz when you run on the with the boots on it feels like it was meant to be the normal running speed instead of the super slow turtle run without them.

Yup. That's what I was going to say. Those console sales convinced them otherwise.

Yet the switch port seems poorly optimized seeing that it's almost 30GB when we have Star Ocean 2R with a fraction of it and looking and running better

​@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 27 Gb on switch and 30 on pc. Almost same that means good optimization

​@@tomaspavka2014No, for a Switch port you want the Switch version to be sized massively lower than the PC version. The Switch shouldn't be running high polygon models, high resolution textures, etc. It should be smaller, not equal.

If they ported to the console bc of sales then there's no excuse. There are other games that run perfectly fine on Switch. Again, I don't see any excuse here that would be valid.

I totally agree, back in the snes and sega days, there was no youtube or social media to criticize a game.

@@popeyes17Ya it was worse… you had magazines…

You might not but obviously people do since it supplies a demand

@@popeyes17 agree with what ? critic reviews are important, back then without em broken buggy games werent able to get checked and just let slide. Now we are able to know if a game is broken. Countless games that had game breaking bugs or that hardlocked you and nobody would know unless your friend let you know. That was horrible.

It cost nothing to at least hear critics out about performance, bugs, etc. Idk about you, but I appreciate heads up about that kind of stuff from them. With how horribly games are optimized for all consoles, I have to make sure I don't get the questionable version of the game lol

Is that supposed to be an excuse?

​@@NuiYabukoThat actually would be a very legitimate excuse. I'm pretty sure other companies had to pivot when Nintendo supposedly delayed their system 😬

​@@brianwright9215 They announced it for a successor way before one was actually revealed. Heck, nothing has been revealed until now, yet the game is out. Though I suppose that emoji means you're ironic.

How could Nintendo delayed the launch of their next console if they didn't announce it in the first place? Yes, I remember that when the developer announced Eiyuden they didn't consider making a Switch version, they said they were open to release it on Nintendo's next console, but there was a great demand for a Switch port that they had to make one

​@@pablocasas5906It's not about announcing it. These developers get the new kits to work with that should fit into the new console. Yeah, there's companies out there that have been working on games for new Switch.

Can you explain to me why is bad, I want to get the game and probably going to play with Japanese dub, but how bad is the localization ?

@@Fonsos777 modern day leftist politics and altering the story for a pure leftist view instead of being a fantasy game for everyone. unless terms being used on characters like "chud" are ok with you and 3rd wave feminism is accaptable.

Is it actually bad or is it just not exactly the same as the Japanese?

@@steveqi9309 From what you can dig on the internet, it's the whole "woke" localization shenanigans but it actually is worse. I boot the game for a few minutes with jp audio and en subs to check, and there are lines that sounds like it came out of a machine translation, and then there are lines that is just 3 words being translated into two sentences... All within just the opening dialogues which is like 5 minutes long.

​@@steveqi9309 from what I have seen, both. It seems to take both a lot of liberties as well as looking like it was never proofread as well as a lot of strange and impossible to understand slang.

i've played the game for and no there no items like that so far.iwish there was in the game cuz the encounter rates are super annoying.

Yeah that part is pretty sad, especially considering that the switch is such a popular system for jrpg fans

@@degreeskelvin3025 switch needs to retire , my pc is 1st gen core i5 super old potato machine and it runs well.

@@phoenixdown1947 that's not the point, switch is the most popular jrpg platform for jrpgs fans like me

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@@phoenixdown1947 It most likely will I mean a new console announcement this or next year is almost inevitable

Yeah, but the switch negative reviews are more about performance issues.

@@armandostockvideos8386 I'm aware of it but the least I can do is give it a chance.

Right on, but at a point you have to look at some responses holistically - haha -

Unfortunately these days with games being review bombed, usually that has nothing to do with the games themselves, critic scores have become far more reliable than user scores, you should at the very least have to own a game to leave a review for it, if not beat it, which you would think would be a minimum mandatory for a review, but metacritic does a horrible job of removing invalid reviews from review bombers that user scores for most games just cannot be trusted anymore, it's the sad state of the gaming community unfortunately, nobody wants to admit it but we gamers are most to blame for most of the issues plaguing our communities

It's like movies. When the critics hate it.. I buy it. Usually it's good.

this is what i thought , bandwagons that did't enjoy the suikoden classic will not like this.

How’s the temperature on steamdeck? I played this on my gaming laptop and it was getting to the 90degrees. So I was wondering if I should save my ROG ally from burning too much lol

Control encounter rates much later in the game with accessories.

@@JJ-dm3lt *semi SPOILER* just need a certain bird man you meet in rising, and that happens kinda early imo

@@tonyfava2944 in hundred heroes? And you meet them early? I haven't come across them. I have the get around fast system now and still haven't come across anyone that helps with the encounters. Besides the accesories

@@JJ-dm3lt ah sorry i did mean the accesories, i got them before lv 30 and that felt early to me unless the game is alot shorter then i hope it is

I have a crap rx580. Played it max 60fps no problem. O_O

@@RafaelLoki Set the graphics settings to max, including distance blur effects. I found it having issues with a PC I was playing this on (with gtx1060), noticed some stuttering when entering towns etc.

What?

@@NuiYabuko Do you not read English?

You essentially don't like the combat button combo system/activate secret techniques with a button thing. I can understand that among other problems like a hold to run button. Just do auto dash or not at all. I have not picked up the game, but I considered doing so a while back. If optimization is bad though I might pass.

same lmao. im thinking i should just get rid of the pre-order and download a digital version xD

Is a 🤡

More like Jason Shiller

Not exactly... A camp generally moves with its army so they could have done some interesting things with that. Say... You can go set up a camp, move off from a camp and then set up a new one elsewhere but if you did people at another location wouldn't be accessible unless you moved back there.

You're literally not helping and being grossly disingenuous. The switch port is genuinely flawed

Example A of the problem, people like you. "This restaurant is passing out food with rat poop in it, but doesnt matter ima give it a 10/10 cause i like chinese" thats you. Youre not helping the issue.

I am a big fan of suikoden games I love ❤️ them

​@@duncangroobridge2606Unless Switch is your only console, why go for the flawed one?

I am 59 years old and a big fan of Nintendo. I love RPG GAMES

So they promised a Switch version just to get funding? Well, at least they delivered on the promise, but that's not a good look.

@@NuiYabuko I think they intended to try, and they tried their best but just couldn’t do it, and delaying the switch port would have been a worse look.

I think the Eiyuden team was caught in a very uncomfortable place, they didn't want to make a Switch version, they even said that they were expecting Nintendo to announce their next hardware, but many of the backers wanted a Switch version, and considering the Switch version is the one that leading the charts in various regions, perhaps they should have made the game with the Switch's hardware in mind, but many Japanese developers have demonstrated that they don't want to develop their games for Nintendo systems, despite the fact that the Switch is the most successful console of all time in Japan

True. I like to see my enemies and have the choice to surprise them, but it harkens back to the ol’ school.

@@JMrealgamer That's why there are items that affect random encounters.

The biggest problem with random encounters is they break up the pacing in unnatural ways. Instead of a carefully thought-out, well paced trek the game has random pauses that throw you into action in a very jarring way.

I really prefer enemies on map, like Chrono Trigger and many other old school games. But, I don't mind it in Eiyuden because the encounter rate is fairly low. I hate it when its so high it becomes tedious, like Fire Emblem 2.

@@GamerGarm Or Skies Of Arcadia. I love that game but MAN the random encounters are high.

SV seem a lot more demanding than that, though, so what kind of excuse is that supposed to be?

@@NuiYabuko There is a reason a lot of companies are not putting games on the switch anymore. It's outdated and hard to optimize because they are taking too long to upgrade it or make a switch 2.

I'd say so, when they Kickstarter for Eiyuden was unveiled they didn't mention the Switch at all, they just mentioned that it could come on Nintendo's next system. But since there were no news about a new Nintendo console and that a lot of players wanted to play the game on Switch, they decided at the last moment that Eiyuden would be released on the Switch It's a shame that the Switch version is so poorly optimized, considering that, according to some numbers, they Switch were this game is selling the majority of its copies

So only your opinion is valid?

That doesn't mean it has to come with all the quirks those games have. Games like Celeste get praised for getting the feeling of retro games right, while being a modern game.