ELAC’s thoroughly audacious Andrew Jones on the art of speaker design  

Dave King thanks Dave!

Engineers compress, and compress more because their clients ask them to.

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Perhaps some of those clients watch your channel. It would be beneficial to have influential people (yourself, Andrew Jones, etc) also speak about the topic. Even given the reason you mention, above... that should not negate folks like Andrew Jones from speaking about the issue. It seems like we hear only one side of the issue, that ever gets voiced in videos. I speak out (with the keyboard). But only a fraction of your 60K subscribers are reading my comments -- and I have little to no clout with them. We need the makers and movers in the audio industry to be heard, in videos, just as Alex was heard. Compression will never go away, and could get worse, if top names do not speak up. If even a handful of artists listen, it is a step in the right direction. I see no downside to hearing both sides. It is the American way! By the way, where can I get my hands on a new Stereophile T-shirt? I used to get one with each subscription. But that was a long time ago. Cheers!

One more point I would like to address: I often hear that compression is used, at the request of the clients / artists. Yet, I have never heard that from an artist. I hear it from engineers, and from folks that say that the artists say so (hearsay). Until I hear or see actual evidence, establishing that artists are really saying this, and doing so for reasons other than the engineer advised them as such, then I will keep the jury out on the root cause for the abusive use of compression.

Compression, and limiting, is used because radio stations want to play louder, people listen, with earbuds, in subways and other noisy environments. And the more highly compressed popular music is, the better it sells. It isn’t a matter of convincing producers (who have the power in the recording/mixing room) or anyone else in the musical/technical end of the business. It’s convincing management that sales won’t suffer with less compression. That’s a very hard sell.

@@melgross There is truth to that. However: 1) There are engineers that love compression. Steve interviewed an engineer named Alex. Alex stated that he loves compression (that "he" -- him personally -- loves it). Alex is not using compression with radio and ear buds in mind. He is using it with "Alex" in mind. 2) Folks that love a song are forced to buy it, whether or not it is compressed. There are no alternatives. Either you buy what the record label puts out, or you do not buy it. There is no other version of the song. You have one, and only one, choice to get that song that you love. So I find it difficult to believe that anyone would say "This sounds too real (because of no compression), too dynamic, too open, too spacious, so I am not going to buy it". Conversely, there are likely countless examples of songs that people, who seek out quality, will not purchase, because of the compression. Uncompressed songs sound better. So it stands to reason that they would sell better. Granted, there are some folks that prefer crummy sound from a cheap radio. Those folks, I imagine, probably are not going to buy anything, and if they were inclined to buy a song, I cannot imagine that they give a flick about compressed vs. non compressed. So people will still buy it. And not for nothing, the uncompressed version will sound better, even with ear buds. This is why I believe that #1, above, is the primary and almost exclusive reason for why the world is fed compression. We have children, in adult bodies, at the engineering controls.

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Celestion has the financial benefit of making speakers for guitar amps.

Understatement is a British art form. Humility is refreshing. Andrew gives due credit to his team and former employees. A man's work should speak for itself ;-)

Built to a price point, as Andrew Jones said.

Good one

.......being heard through speakers 👍

Jim Griffin And I can’t get enough, great guy who is accessible

scottyo64 and others would like to see something new and unique.

Andrew Davis. His place really is cluttered like he moved from a much larger space and couldn’t part with any possessions. It looks like a hoarders cache 👀 maybe it’s due to him getting so much free stuff from manufacturers, for a start, looks like he’s got like a hundred headphones, so yeah he’s a hoarder for sure but the place looks clean really just untidy, Ps sorry for the ramble; just bored 😅 *Perhaps you could suggest he use all that Paetreon money to hire a maid or house boy😂 (not knowing his inclinations).

in this respect yes, check out Siegfried Linkwitz' website, he was investigating cabinet resonances intensivly. He used an old moving magnet c atridge and measured the vibrations on the wood: imagine, the needle on wood instead on vinyl. His site is linkwitzlab.com

Brian Moore five more Pass interviews, one each Saturday

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac awww, dammit, I gotta wait a whole week?

The "L" is there for a reason - isn't it ? How do you say "solder miser" ?

We’re supposed to pronounce it. But here, in the USA, we drop the l most of the time.

@@melgross So what happens to LOL :-) ?

Bogdan Weiss heh. I meant, of course, in the world solder, not in everything.

@@melgross Many idiosyncrasies in the English language...But the grammar is infinitely easier than say French ,German or Polish for that matter... We learn & soldier on... I loved the USA btw ..the people were awesome & you guys will rock again once you throw off that parasite that's subverted your government & institutions....

Plutocracy Now! Nothing. But with most amplifiers being solid state, more power is pulled out with a 4 ohm design.

That would be something! Next weekend: More with Nelson and Andrew!

My AF61 don't sound that way, they sound great. I do use a sub with them.

I have a 3.3 cu ft NHT sub that deals with anything at the very low end. I'm driving the speakers with a pair of PS Audio M700 monoblocks with a Rogue RP5 tube preamp. This is the same electronics that drove my Chane Arx5's and those had a good high end, for a small tower the bass was pretty good but can't compare to the low end on the AF61's. BTW both speakers sound the same so it's not just a defect in one speaker. Does anybody know at what SN the redesigned tweeters were put in these speakers? It could be I have a a pair with the old tweeters in them? I have some 10W power resistors on order to build an L pad so I can drop the tweeter level by a few db's, we'll see if that tames things down.

John Doe Abbsholootlee!! *hic!*

@@ajn465 and then we have the french with the languid of wine, and the russians and wodka.

Homogeniety.

Me thinks we have enough monopolies as it is...

Now we wait for Britain to be colonized. I kid

Might not be a reflective surface. Either way, I like it.

What a thoroughly idiotic post from someone who obviously knows sweet FA about audio.

You don’t know anything about audio, do you? Even less about andrew’s designs.

I'm happy the way mines sounds

@@ronaldrice2936 I loved the Sound of mine as well, and I still miss the Imaging, but for home cinema, despite having plenty of Power, they just sounded a bit too laid back. It was a very tough decision, but I now have a set of Klipsch Reference Prime, and they are much more flexible and dynamic even if they don't disappear as nicely as the UniFi did...

Philip W you don’t have to view it. That’s your choice. Most people appreciate that he takes the time to do this.

Lay off!!

I get much Life out of my UB5'S , and don't have real Hi-End gear🤔

The B6 2.0 are shit worse speakers i ever wasted my money on boxy and lifeless.