Great video about EV life extending. What would be very interesting would be if Valdemar was able to break down elements of a repair like this, like cost taking down and installing battery again, cost of going over battery and replace lid/valves, and cost of replacing a module. Does this battery repair cost 40k, 60k, 80k or more ? (not with any discounts, what regular customer would pay) What I am looking for is, if you buy an old Model S, or a similar other car, you may have to haggle with seller as you will have to expect doing a job like this not to end up paying more than it is worth.
"Great video about EV life extending" Yes if you're mentally retarded enough to spend that kind of money, this is one reason people are weary of electric cars, that are older. I've got a VW id3 82 Kwh and that's my greatest fear if it dies after the warranty, there's no way I will spend the money on and older EV with less range and new electric car prices are gone insane so I'd probably go back to 2nd hand Prius or Diesel.
Agree. It's how they fix regular cars. Many times the makers of the car keep the info secret on how to service stuff. So you have to find out one way or the other.
I understand that later battery packs, such as my 2016 90kWh, have a different design and are less susceptible to water ingress. Would be good to hear these guys talk about the different types of pack they've worked on the issues found. Some more great content.
Failing bmb sensor 6? It's the one that sits on the bottom of the pack. It sits in water and corrodes. This was why Tesla changed the firmware in 2019.16. It compensates for this by reading the neighbouring cells and guesstimating the voltages. It should be a recall
elbilmek guys have very distinctive lithuanian accent, as well as some employees :) speak lithuanian in the background, though they seem like they are real tesla pros
Hope you realise, Bjorn. That the Sun is generally hated in the UK, more so in some areas than others. Hopefully I don't have to see their logo on your videos much longer.
@SladeBling Stop posting FUD on every single comment asking about this. The cost of this repair is not in the same league as replacing the entire pack with another one. Do you work for The Sun?
@@SladeBling For 20k you can put a very nice down payment on a Corolla, more than 50% or about 40% Prius Plug-In. With the tax credit that is 1/2 of a new base Tesla M3.
These repairs can last anywhere from 10 to 50tkm. Usually they just replace broken cells but rest of the battery is still old and next cell might die soon.
Now I realized how important is your everyday perfect video and audio quality. This video has super important knowledge, and interesting stuff, but video-technically i miss Bjorn 😂
And haters say “after five years, the battery is dead and the car is a total loss“ 😂 Thanks for this video. It gives me confidence to drive my 2018 Model X for at least another five years.
I wonder how those unauthorised battery repairs affect car insurance as there have been a lot of reports of insurers writing off vehicles just due to battery cover damage without even inspecting the batter due to fire risk of damaged batteries.
Hi, good to see that parts are sold by Tesla to independent repair shops, BTW being this one almost 10YO then if I'm not wrong the Maker is not anymore obliged to have spares available: ever experienced spares shortage?
Nice review and really good you kind of look at the hardware ( driving, komfort, charging ) and the software. And you do not let the not so ready Xpilot interfere with your judgement of the other things. :-)
A little anticlimactic end, we need to see the car drive. Test acceleration/battery degradation etc. What's the impact on a service like this - also add the amount of hours/materials spent, so we get a rough idea of what a service like this can cost. As you said, Tesla is scaring people away from the old models with their crazy prices.
Thanks Bjorn, really interesting video. For this type of repairs what is the price difference between that requested by Tesla and that requested by Ebilmek? In Italy I don't think there are workshops capable of carrying out these repairs, is it worth going all the way to Norway? Here in Italy electric cars are still only 4%.
I think those valves are a design flaw. As Bjorn said in a previous video Tesla reduced them in later versions. But in my opinion they shouldn't have made a hole in the the metal at all. Just weakening the material, like the top of an electrolytic capacitor, that it acts as a burst disk.
It is for allowing air to expand and contract with temperature. In Norway it can be -40c in winter and supercharging in summer the battery can be 50c+. A better solution was to have a bladder, but rubber also degrades over time.
It seems like these older Tesla Model S battery packs are relatively easy to repair and maintain. But what about other car brands/manufacturers? Which EVs are easily maintainable/repairable, and which are not? As the used / out of warranty EV market grows, it would be nice to know these things.
All ore many of the car makes use battery modules. So even if the actual cells go bad, you could replace one or more modules, and not the whole pack. Using modules also makes it easier to have different size packs, using a certain number of modules, same modules. In this case it was some electronic boards not being waterproof.
@@SladeBling Stop posting FUD on every single comment asking about this. The cost of this repair is not in the same league as replacing the entire pack with another one. Do you work for The Sun?
@@iaintdonknow The 20k would mean full pack replacement with a 90kwh pack, which would increase the range quite a bit from a degraded 85 pack. Probably not worth it, though.
In Europe, during the winter, they disperse salt in snowy roads to make them drivable. I do not know if this is the practice in Norway, however, could this be a factor for all this rusting and what is Tesla’s protection design engineering if driving in salty environment? Could somebody wash the EV underneath with fresh water to prevent salt from residing in battery pack cavities? Thanks.
@@SladeBling Lier! The cost is only a fraction. Explain me where uncle Elon touched you when you were a kid... Imagine hating on a certain item or brand - Like a little toddler
@@logitech4873this dude clearly hears only what he wants to hear…so doesn’t matter how many times you ask him for currency, he won’t say, because he loves his diesel car…😂😂😂
@@logitech4873 just to nitpick: It's lower-case k for kilo, and it's from Greek... it's part of the Systeme International (SI), which did indeed originate (in large part) in France. ;-) It would be nice to know the price of this repair, at least a ballpark figure, though 20kNOK doesn't seem unrealistic given that they just replaced a couple of PCBs and covers, plus the "umbrellas". I'm led to believe Tesla will charge 3-5kNOK just to drop the battery pack and remount it, but they do charge a fairly high hourly rate. I've bought a few parts from Tesla for DIY repairs, and so far prices have been quite reasonable.
So... The electronic modules boards are affected by water. So they could just cover them with resin and call it a day. Probably those boards are not fixed anyways. Maybe it's how they already do it.
All cars have parts that wear over time, and rubber and plastics are very common failure points. This is the reason Tesla does reseals on some of the oldest models before the warranty runs out.
Too expensive to be honestly revealed. May be a new battery is more relevant and in that case the aim of this is only to demonstrate it can be repaired and more sustainable. Economically speaking, it sucks.
@@nanterre38 I doubt that - could simply be that they weren't comfortable revealing what their customer would be paying, or even that they asked and the customer didn't want them to talk about it.
Funny thing )))) Wow impressive ))) Brakes like new. Ok let me have a comment ))) One of my cars - Land Cruiser 2014. No one repair except a braking pads... if we talk about brakes ))) So nothing impressive in that aspect really.))
It opened my eyes how scary it is to buy a used EV from snowy altitudes. The car value hangs on the longevity of those seals. There is also lots of custom electronics inside, the price of each is higher every year because of its unavailability. I have a 10 years Prius but looking at this, I wouldn't trade it for a 10 year EV of any maker.
VERY interesting video, I'm amazed by what these guys can do. We need more companies like this, dealerships can in best case only replace complete modules. But in some cases the mechanic doesn't even know the difference between DC and AC....
