ELDEN RING: Soul of Cinder VS All Bosses 

Next orphan vs elden ring💀

Please give us the theme songs for creta the fallen crucible and the new godskin duo please we have been waited for the theme songs and both happened happened please give us the theme songs please like what you did to Odeon

champ gundyr would be nice

Damage is scaled completely different in elden ring compared to dark souls three soul of cinder should be doing almost triple damage but sense it's scaled for dark souls 3 all his moves are weak

@baraovermelho3956 thing is he is not even the fastest even in D's, gael, nk, vordt, gundyr and friede are much faster than him.

You need to watch isshhin, genichiro and owl vs demon of hatred. At some points they dodge and vombine moves, it looks like an anime battle.

T'was a kingly duel

​@@gorgitI can't find the video anywhere. Can you send the link or give me a hint on the name of the channel or the video?

@@prowers2623 the video is called 'genichiro, isshin and owl vs demon of hatred' by benzoin gum. The part your looking for starts at 7:20 and ends at 7:40, but trust me, youll know when you see it.

@@prowers2623 genichiro, isshin and owl vs demon of hatred. The part your looking for starts at 7:20 and ends at 7:40.

It said 11 min in the video they upscaled soul of cinders stats but it really didn’t seem to make a difference I agree soul of cinder did well considering lol

​@@zero22ifySoC is also very noticably squishy even in souls 3, which didnt help him much at all

They upscaled his stats and that maliketh win seemed like he had to retake it 10 times to make maliketh loose for the vid😂

@@zero22ify Upscaling means you increase the multipliers of something, If that something has inherintely less starting numbers even if you upscale it to match something with higher stats the difference will still be quite visible. Especially with dmg dealt. You can see DS3 bosses and enemies deal considerably less dmg than the elden ring counterparts even when upscaled since their base dmg is lower meant to match DS3 player stats and the availiable defense mechanisms of the player.

He buffed the Soul of Cinder to Radagons stats

morgott has an amazing moveset and seeing him actually fight with a boss of similar scaling to his is always a treat. too bad he always gets poise broken in a few hits, reaches phase 2, tries his sword rain attack and dies while charging it. The intent behind him is to catch players off guard with a combination of very fast lengthy combos chained into slow delayed attacks, but that doesn't screw bosses over as it does to players.

Yeah it was..

​​​@@gillaliglaou2840I don't know his HP but it seems to be kinda low, most times I see morgott bossfights against other players they kill him kinda easily compared to the other bosses, and this makes me kinda sad because his moveset is spectacular

@@thechickenslittl1373 yeah that's another part of the issue. by the time you get to morgott you could have easily finished ranni's questline, killed rykard, radahn, the godskin apostle in caelid divine tower, sewer mohg, rennala, that giant dragon in caelid, obtained mimic tear, have access to a somber 8 weapon (I don't know if you can get a higher somber weapon at this point, I know there is a somber 10 in mohgwyn palace and you can go there if you do varre's questline but idk about the somber 9, and besides, most new players don't go there early). Basically, if you explore a big chunk of what's doable by the point you reach him, he becomes a quick fight. There is plenty of stuff that's dragging him down and fromsoft probably didn't buff him because of "what if you get to him properly leveled?".

@@thechickenslittl1373 there are plenty of people on reddit who complain about him being unfair and most of the time it's melee users who aren't overleveled.

ironic since his dream is to be killed by a worthy opponent

Nah this is some 5 year old mods. We already had Bloodbourne vs dark souls 3 videos while back

​@@muramasa870shut up

This shit had been happening for years g this ain’t nothing special no more😂

@@Pugerino yeah, there are a lot more advanced mods than this one for years now

Even have vergil's JUDGEMENT NUT mod😂

I command thy kneeeel!!!!

Professionals have standards

and then hoarah loux stun locking SoC, lol

Yeah idk what happened with the bolts, I don't think er lightning defences are any higher on average

Elden ring bosses tend do have more hp/resistances and do way more damage than any bosses from the past games.

​@@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTubit even has to do as well lore wise considering in ds, pretty much everyone is at there weakest when the main protagonists arrives whereas in elden ring, you can still see bosses are at there prime like Godfrey and even malenia that fought radahn and the world is still relatively new and flourishing even though some are bad but not as bad as ds. Even radahn that has lost his mind to baser instincts is still well relatively young by dark souls age and can still access his powers.

@@tc-channelhobby4051 Not really, many enemies in Dark Souls have either no indication of having lost their power, or it is hard to say. In the soul of cinder's case it is true that the fire is slowly winding down, but at the same time it has a vast arsenal of abilities from all of the previous lords of cinder, so it's not clear how strong it would be. For some other bosses it seems quite clear that they must be extremely strong. Gael by the end of it will be perhaps the most ancient being alive and will have just eaten so much of the Dark Soul that when he bleeds it is the blood of the dark soul we see, not his own. He might be the closest thing to a fully powered Lord we see at any point, and we still beat him. Really, its not about lore, it is about balancing. Elden Ring generally has larger health pools and more damage than DS3 across the board. In DS3 the highest possible health is 2122 and in Elden Ring it is 3243. But in DS2 it was even higher, in that game you could hit 3827. And before you think thats because DS2 happens before DS3 and therefore should lorewise have more power, in DS1 the max health was 2633. TLDR, its just different numbers based on design and balancing.

Radahn is The Text Book Definition Of “Wow This Guy is a fucking legend”

Radahn is weaker in lore so inaccurate even if it is a different lore

Radahn was just chill like that

🤓

He ated 2 fucking lightings, what clutch???

Maliketh is a close 2nd

Morgott’s speech at the end takes it for me. It’s one of the only moments in Elden Ring where character writing is actually able to shine. A demigod cursed at birth, but ever so loyal to the Erdtree, laments that his service was not enough.

​@@MediaXEditsMaliketh has 2 dying dialogues and they are the best. He is also the only boss who has two versions for each of his dialogues.

@@anthony-uh7wn That sad "Tarnished?... Why?" almost broke me. Poor Maliketh.

I didn't realize Malenia had a dying dialogue lol... j/k, I beat her eventually. But one thing I will remember until I die is, "I am Malenia, blade of Miquella."

Who else to embody pure dark souls energy then the amalgamation of every chosen undead and every lord to have linked the flame

Maliketh whould have smoked him if he didnt get the crazy stat boosts on top of the 99% stagger rate😅

@@localtincan5666 I killed him with a stick. What a guy

​​@@porri5438 stat boost? I don't think garden of eyes boosted his stats, they just tossed him in vanilla and saw what would happen. Yeah I just re-watched it and at the very beginning it tells you that.

​@@porri5438Cinder would obliterate him if he didnt get that stupid health drain stat.

I feel like Elden Ring might have pushed too much towards the "RPG stats" part of the combat that it leads to situations like this as a consequence. Souls games usually balanced out the numbers well where pure skill will still make a lot of progress, but ER feels like the opposite philosophy of Sekiro where stats have a big impact.

Exactly, they are not even close to a 1 to 1 comparison

It has to be, due to all the items and things that are available, or without this “buff” the game would be to easy. In short fromsoft takes spirit ashes as well as buffs into consideration, then makes the boss appropriately

@@stwbf2729 Yeah you don't even need uber meta builds to hit crazy numbers. My standard co-op build just stacks a lot of fire and repeated attack buffs so that my weapons have ~1100 AR before the repeated attack buffs kick in. Even with the bloated boss HP it takes me like half a minute or less to kill most of them (main exceptions are Malenia who has few safe openings and Elden Beast which keeps running away.)

For real dawg like ER, especially in the endgame, is just straight up unbalanced asf

You can also just stand behind his back foot and he pretty much can't do anything about it

i like how placisdax did the dragon breath attack as the soul of cinder died it was lkike the dragon turnt him to dust

Mohg is that guy, if you put +7 mohg up against malenia, he almost always wins unless rot gets him. From sheer damage mohgs second phase is just unreal at times

@@Tau_Aquila my favourite bosses in the game are radagon, morgott, placidusax and mohg so I'd love to see an NG+7 mohg in action if he's that strong.

@gillaliglaou2840 if you watch garden of eyes "ultimate battle of the demigods" he shows him I think 2 times talking on the entire demigod family and winning.

but Hora Lux suplexed SoC while SoC couldn't make a grab to Gideon exept the Poise breaker of Gwyn(the for slashes that throw you in the air)

It was a strange feeling of pride, and nostalgia, seeing poor Gideon get rocked by an old friend.

Nah. It's the air juggle that gets me.

Yeah but it takes him soooooo long to come out of the animation when he goes to second phase and he doesn't switch he weapons that often as he used to in ds3

Gael would be beat by half of ER boss like SoC

@@neofalz7643 only cos that the scaling is a bit off. I'd love to know how this channel decide how much damage DS3 bosses in ER do.

Gael is way stronger than SOC

Idk Gael does better damage than SoC and he has way more health. Plus his moveset would make him very aggressive so I think he’d do well

I feel like Gael will die on starscourage rahdan of meteor slam that's the one that has me in my mind

elden beast just always runs like that no matter what

And my dear dragonslayer armour

Midir, demon prince

No pls not the coneheads...

Nameless King, Champion Gundyr, Pontiff Sulyvahn and Aldrich too. And maybe demon prince

Artorias in the background:

Not only that but everyone else as well, even Miyazaki confirmed in an interview that solaire did link the fire in his world so this as well applies to bosses like gundyr who was suppose to link the fire but he was too late and pretty much anyone else if they want to. And if some fails, they can again link the fire or chose not to like friede, an unkindled along with anri, Horace and more.

Wdym? Most anime Mc’s are dark hair teenagers with the same haircut.

@@buklau837 generic male with a "im 14 and this is deep" backstory to explain why they have canon plot armor while still attending high school.

SoC has a piece of every challenge runner out there. Let that sink in.

@@perrytran9504 Give soc a roll dodge and he instanty dominate

Well Soul Of Cinder IS everyone who linked the First Flame. That's quite a few dragonslayers.

SoC: "Oh, so you want to use a bullshit homing swarm spell? Fine, then! Here's a bullshit homing swarm spell. Ya dick." EB: "Fuck."

​@@diodedrake2946but why is he so tall our character are always short as a tall guy I never understood that

Godfrey / hourah loux is an old man, yet shredded. Gael is old, but yet, bears 3 phases, phase 2 cutscene, phase 3 soul burst.

@@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51 I think you answered to the wrong person, buddy.

@@Olav_Hansen If we are being fair the only reason Soul Of Cinder lost to Radhan is bad AI. The lightning attacks barely do any damage. it would have took 1 actual sword swing to kill Radhan.

@@Reous losing or winning to radahn was a coin flip, that makes him "as good as" in my opinion.

​ @Olav_Hansen No that makes him an AI designed to fight a player not a boss. It wasn't a coin flip either. He gets off 3 useless attacks before he was killed by Radhan. Thats not a coin flip that just stupid. Its not 50/50 its, hey let me keep doing something useless until I die!

skill issues

@daro-san3006 Oh absolutely.

@@fat_mason In the wise words of the roly poly lords of old: *GIT GUD SCRUB!*

Isnt sof cinder one of the easier last bosses for a souls game lol ?

@@TheDomino12121 nah, Saint sword Ishin is easier

the fact that its sped up makes it funny as hell lmao. SOC just *bonk* and it falls over plus the sound effect just adds to it

Lmfaooooo😂

He got SOCked

That's the horse ring touch.

How the fuck did you see that? I had to rewatch it and lower the speed

They were BS

Thank you for bringing this up, this is my biggest gripe with the game. It has become more mainstream, and with that some of what made the soulsbourne games what they are. A mid level boss in Elden Ring( Shade Godfrey ) can take out Dark Souls 3's final boss. Heck, even freaking GIDEON can kill him. This is why Elden Ring ranks low on my soulsbourne list.

Elden ring is my fourth favorite game, so mid tier in the fromsoft games, but I think ds3, bloodborne and ds2 did things better. I prefer the bosses of ds3 as well as the areas and soundtrack. I prefer the aesthetic of bloodborne, and the beautiful world and unique story of ds2, along with the dlcs and build variety. Elden ring offers all of that but not as good as the others.@@DankSlayer_Ornstien

@@firstorderblade4432 The only game I dislike more is Ds2( only for the mechanics). BB and Sekiro have such fluid and addictive combat, Ds1 and 3 have great bosses, and Demon souls has a beautiful and encapsulating world.

@@DankSlayer_Ornstien my least fave are demons souls and ds1. Mainly because the age shows. I actually really enjoy demons souls, and the game is really unique, although I still prefer ds1 even though the second half makes me want to pull my hair out and I hate most of the bosses

Elden Ring has a bigger health pool than DS3 however And better armor You can’t really compare them in terms of stats

What about dark souls 2?

Yea I mean dark souls 2 would gang to death elden ring, and no one could avoid them😂

There are a few ds2 bosses I'd like to see as well like sir alonne fume knight veldstadt sihn etc

You'd need to scale up the DS side a lot, ER has near universally higher stats.

And add Bloodborne and Sekiro.

Rng

@@Exeternal_Beyonder_Of_Doomsday nah that was bad RNG he was just lucky enough for his broken hitbox to work

​@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 SOC was lucky enough his artificially increased poise damage got him that far.

​@@rjsblanket3024ds3 just has way higher poise numbers and er

@@pastesir3025 it is the same

Nope. It’s still ridiculous

Without it he can't do shit

@@baddogkelevra1 yea, I hopped into the premiere for a bit earlier. SoC's poise damage is still absolutely wonk, but he's at the same time far too fragile and does no damage. Honestly really disappointed. I'm sure there was a lot of work involved to make this happen, but the end result kinda blows due to the baffling balancing decisions

Poor Maliketh was cheated out of his win.

I mean SoC would need a big health and damage buff on top of the area scaling to do anything if you tune down the only advantage DS3 bosses have over Elden Ring's. Poise values were just a lot higher in that game.

All DS3 bosses have on average a lot more poise and poise damage than ER's, because the poise numbers were just higher. Yhorm's head is his weakspot and yet it has more poise than Radahn, who has the highest in ER before modifiers, his legs have almost 8 times as much. Not arguing that it is fair or fun to watch, but that's why you see those ridiculous staggers.

Bosses in Elden Ring seem to be generally more powerful, so it kinda works as a balancing feature

@@majster7072 Yeah replaying DS3 made me remember how hard it was to poise break most bosses, even if trying to pretend its ER with charged R2s (almost never actually worth it in DS3). But with their lower HP one or two per fight was usually GG. ER has such bloated HP values that without status effects, stance break spam, or a lot of buffs (my favorite method) boss kills are noticeably slower.

​@@erandigael2878yo tenía entendido que el señor dragón placidusax era el que tenía la postura más alta en el juego y el segundo era radhan 🤔

@@brayanferreira8147 Placi actually only has 160 poise vs Radahn's 200. If you count poise modifiers the ancient dragons have the highest with 600 effective poise.

TBF, he would have lost if it was treated as one fight and his health wasn't restored.

Yeah, the Fire Giant vs Yhorm would be great, the unstoppable force againts the Unstoppable Force, the Immovable object vs the Immovable object. but you know what? a tarnished or a Chosen Undead would have an easier time with Yhorm than the Fire Giant. Now Rykard vs Yhorm would be great too, Gimmick boss vs Gimmick boss fight. Lol

@@Frostykid94 Yhorm would win any day against Rykard because he would be immune to his constant lava aoe. However I'd like to see him against Fire Giant/Rykard just to see how he compares to them in height

@@MrGoul78 he is much smaller. I mean, look at comparison between him and cathedral giants(who are in Fire Giant league). Radahn is in fact much closer to his height

Yeah, on Godfrey though it is entertaining that he managed to pushed him further into his second phase meaning he was trying this time, the only problem he has is that er bosses has more health bars than his first and second combined.

@@tc-channelhobby4051 Yeah SOC tried very hard on that match and was super aggressive, I saw him striking non stop not like when he fought the other bosses where he pauses for a second, but yeah unfortunately the "Legendary Super Tarnished" Daddy Loux fought him like a madman like how Brolly when he gets crazy.

@@Frostykid94 Eh Its dsddy loux, he is pretty much unstoppable considering his attacks are literally grabs, even placidusax and many more lost to this dude, it was surreal watching him literally carry the elden beast

to be fair if SoCs lightning bolts weren't doing negative dmg i think he would of won there, he tosses one at Radahn @6:17 but it does literally nothing. Edit: okay correction his lightning bolt did 128 dmg, which in all honesty is only about enough to kill one of the goats or rabbits that run around limgrave.

Midir vs Placidussax

@@donjandel midir wins. He will just stunlock him

It’s because ER enemies have much higher numbers. But really this applies to the whole game. A 700 AR Claymore in ER is not the same as a 700 AR claymore in DS3. The stats are relative to their own games. That’s why Malenia absolutely smoked Maria. To like an absurd degree.

It depends on luck, he has to many phases but doesnt have the health to use them all.

And Bell Bearing Hunter from Caelid now that we're at it.

Its because the moveset change and the damage buff He stopped doing player things and did boss things

yeah, the sunlight bolt only deals minimum damage for some reason

@@Fire.and.Forget remember most ER bosses resist holy damage

@@demonkingsparda His lightning is holy and not lightning ?

@@demonkingsparda no holy damage in ds3. only magic, fire lightning and dark

He fucking busts out the lightning storm I've never seen before for the kill. Leaves just enough for one stylish slash across Beasts scar.

“Mfer I’m literally THE Lord of Cinder”

Gideon: tf... is a lord of... cinder? *dies* Soc: has bro not heard of dark souls?

Clapped

Yorm ez win

Soc isnt anywhere near the fastest souls boss tho, but he makes up for that with aggression and versatility

@@kuru-yami9416ye Gael and nameless king were much faster compared to him iirc

Laisser Midir ou Gael géré malenia les implora de lui laisser la vie sauf

She heals by hit not really fair ...

@@_------------_ the poise damage from the DS bosses doesn't make any of these fair

It's arguable considering he defeated the endgame bosses in rad and the elden beast and moreso is maliketh, the one being that can literally kill anyone, even malenia.

@@tc-channelhobby4051SoC was buffed to higher stats after fire giant to stand a chance against maliketh and malenia 😂

@@dudeman7826 yes but the damage remain the same the only thing that increase in him is his health because even is thunder and magics are useless heck he can't even do the things that melania and malikit can do and even then he was still out much in terms of aoe and hacks and on millennia it was already decided anyway considering she is one of if not most hardest bosses in from soft games history

Fighting fire with fire didn't go well

Probably the boss that raged me the most with the fire giant