Legolas sacrificing his appetite, killing each Uruk-hai and being forced to eat the corpse afterwards. Later, he gets a massive stomach-ache and passes out from over-eating, along with the other Elves who ate each Orc they slay. ...I wonder how orcs taste like.
The Elder Scrolls: Valenwood Needs to be a game at some point. It would be really graphically taxing with all the leaves to animate, but it would be fucking beautiful.
It is the most probable area for the next game currently. Bethesda have something called "Project Greenhardt" (probably spelled that wrong) Greenhardt is a city in Vallenwood.
I would love for them to keep sticking with one province at a time that way most there time is spent working on detailed assets of that province instead of trying to fit one more in there and making a mess. elder scrolls isn't just about provinces either it has it's own story from main quest and from the random stuff you fine and the time spent around that cultures history. size is also not a important factor because Valenwood appears smaller on map but it does not mean they have to make it the size of that map. They can make it bigger then skyrim. they will not make a provinces the same size as the map you see the maps everyone see are just ideal location of Tamriel
exactly alot of stuff would just be saved for later or just completely removed to keep the game the size they want which is why i'm against the idea of making 2 provinces in one setting because alot of stuff would be removed that sand storm you mention probably would never happen because the engine won't allow it but if Elsweyr was made a single provinces they would have it. People mostly want double provinces because they don't want to wait 4 to 5 years to just to play the province they want. and the map size issue people overlook the problem. I don't mind what province gets released because so far i loved every single one that has been made. I wish i could fill in more reason why i hate the idea but i don't know how to word it rip.
mutegrab666 I hope that wasn't passive aggressive. But yeah I thought the madness thing was like a hug skooma problem within their home land since alot of them have addiction.
Getting really annoyed with all the people saying stuff like "Omg, Skyrim breaks the lore because if you play as a wood elf, you can't eat the people you kill, omg." He says right at the start of the video that the rules of the green pact only apply AS LONG AS THEY STILL CALL VALENWOOD THEIR HOME.
while there have been plenty of Nords who have been Dragonborn, not all Dragonborn are Nords, i think it was mentioned in the lore that there was an Altmer who was a Dragonborn (or at least strongly implied to be one.)
Yeah he was the antagonist in Oblivion. Who ruled the Mythic Dawn cult. He was half altmer and half bosmer though. But he said he had learned to speak in a new language. And that was probably the Dragon tongue.
Ezra Rhoads dude, its a game chill, and he left Valenwood, not many woodelves do that butt the ones who does break the woodelves rules thing so they are no longer bound to it, so he problemly doesnt eat people, and if he did, he would sell meat because he has to eat all the meat he hunts
Playing as a Bosmer in Valenwood could have some interesting and unique perks. Such as lesser animals, mud crab, wolves, etc don't attack you but do attack enemies, unless they too are Bosmer. Deer and other prey don't flee until you draw a weapon. If you kill an animal and don't loot it and take its hide and meat you gain a curse for a time. Picking alchemical ingredients physically hurts you. Your sneak and bow damage gain a bonus while crouching in forested areas. If you don't want to eat every bandit you come across you can craft weapons designed to injure but not kill enemies, forcing them to submit and hand over any quest items you need from them, such as keys.
For the sake of simplicity the games always take a "you're an outsider" approach to the PC's background in relation to the setting. I'm sure a "Native Bosmer" mod would come about quickly though IF they make an Elder Scrolls: Valenwood or my preferred title à la Oblvion--> Elder Scrolls: Silvenar
How to troll in Skyrim: Marry Camilla (riverwood trader lady) Build home (hearthfire dlc) Make Sven (love triangle guy #1) the steward Get the elf as your follower :)
aaaaand I just broke down laughing at the bit with the Bosmer buying woodcrafts. the image of a bosmer warrior with a cartwheel shield and a bucket helm is hilarious.
It's funny because in reality a meat only diet would ultimately be worse for the environment than an omnivorous one. Inevitable over hunting would cause the forest to become dangerously unbalanced. Responsible harvesting of plants like fruits, nuts, and greens would be much more responsible. Maybe I'm reading too far into this mythical place lol...
Responsibility isnt their goal though. A pristine untouched forset is. They probably dont give af about ecosystems or endangered wildlife. They dont even respect fallen foes.
Ah fuck it. My Wood Elves never cannibalize and love to pick plants and herbs for their alchemy experiments. Then again, I like the idea of RPing as a Wood Elf who gave the finger to their gods and went their own way.
Tishen Ahmun They only need to follow the green pact if they are in Valenwood, they can do whatever they want anywhere else, thats why they import goods such as wood.
If they make it, I hope Elder Scrolls 6 is in Valenwood and Elsweyr with the final stage of the main quest (a war against the High Elves) giving the player access to the Summerset Isles and then we could even have a Black Marsh DLC.
That would be cool but, they would have to put a lot of content for the Black Marsh DLC and potentionally the summerset isle could be a whole DLC in it self
Valenwood, like Elsweyr and Black Marsh, is too small. Valenwood and Elsweyr provide a fantastic contract between magical forests and mystical deserts!!!
God dammit, just like everyone else, you forget the point of the first season; to show you a basic overview of each race and the most important pieces of Tamrielic history. The next few seasons will be about more specific things like the Wild Hunt, or The Warp in the West.
CrazyNerdMonkey Would be harder to get fat considering they consume a truckload of protein, which can take up to 20% of the ingested calories to metabolize the remaining 80%,not to forget that they do constant cardio..
kunven Yes you should know that many words in different languages meaning approximately the same thing are very similar, but Teneco is right, the writes got Bosmer from the dutch "Bos"
The Wood Elves is my #1 favorite race! I love their lore, their design, everything. Valenwood is like a beautiful forest and stuff too, and I love nature! I also love the stat or skill bonuses you get from the race. My friends usually tell me, "Dude you can't love nature, you kill it, you're vegan." I disagree.....not that anyone on planet earth cares about this whole comment tho so =.= just felt like sharing.
I love this series, i've been downloading every entry onto my Ipod and i love listening to them in class or while riding my bike. Keep up the amazing work ShoddyCast!
I know someone who's vegan who plays almost exclusively as a Wood Elf because "they live in the forest, they're the most likely to not eat meat" I wonder if I should send them this video?
Something does not seem quite clear to me with the Bosmer being the greatest archers in all of Tamriel. Being accurate with a bow is only half of it; you also need to be very strong. Being an archer is very demanding in physical terms; the most powerful bows are very difficult to draw and require an immense strength. Hence, a race like the Bosmer simply could not provide individuals strong enough to be able to use the most powerful of bows (at least if we compare them with some of the other races of the continent). That seems more a job for more naturally strong races, like Orcs or Nords, although they may not be as accurate with a bow as the Wood Elves, given that the Bosmer are pretty much born with a bow in their hands.
it might also have to do with how bosmer have constructed their bows and possibly their archery technique that might compensate for their lack of strength i dont know thats just a guess
I don't know, i would say they are well built and wiry. Seeing as they live in the forest and are hunters, they are probably very athletic, and things like drawing a bow would have more to do with muscle memory and practice than physical strength. Like a pitcher in baseball can throw much faster than an NFL linesman, but it doesn't mean he is stronger.
They could just be functionally strong, as in, their technique and specific muscle development is able to compensate for not being the Arnold Schwarzenegger of races. That said, there's a lot of fine tuning that goes into a bow. I hunt with a recurve (yes irl), it's only 40# (40 pound draw weight at 28"), but if u train a lot and get accurate u know where to hit, have arrows made for ur bow and what ur doing with it, can shoot from cramped angles (from behind a log while kneeling or "sneaking" if ur in skyrim), u can more than manage. If the Bosmer are so used to bows, they'd know (i'd assume) how to fletch their arrows and make broadheads to fit with their bow/ tuned perfectly. Not all bows are like the monster 150# english warbows u see in middle ages movies, anyway skyrim mostly uses recurves over longbows anyway, recurves generally being stronger for their length. I'm by no means an expert, but hopefully that helps man.
The desolve of the dynasty and attack of Valenwood's Wood Elves seems like a good turmoil setting for TES6. Skyrim had a great civil war/Turmoil setting as well.
I just started a new character as a Bosmer and set her up to be a hunter and I didn't know about the lore so this was fun. To make it complete I just need to ring of Namira.
I've never been any character other than a Wood Elf ! And i thank you for all your hard work and the mentality to do all this in the first place ! Thanks again
i wish the next elder scrolls game setting would be all tamriel (excluding the elder scrolls online), with detailed and more diversity like elder scrolls: skyrim
yeah i think, i never played arena before, but it would be great to adventure in tamriel where i can explore morrowind, black marsh, cyrodiil, high rock, valenwood, elsweyr, summerset isles, hammerfell, and of course skyrim
How time flies, I remember when I fell in love with Skyrim. I accidently stumbled upon your videos when looking for walk throughs, at the time you had barely started your lore series and I remember being so intrigued by this fictional world and all these stories I remember waiting so long for the Bosmer video and the excitement that came when you finally released it... I love your Content and all these vids just bring back so much Nostalgia thank you for all the good memories!
I find the green pact a bit awkward, I understand if they're not allowed to cut down trees or cause any type of destruction towards nature. That's similar to the beliefs and values of many Indigenous people in the Americas, when it comes to respect nature and use it wisely. But not being allowed to eat or cultivate plants and fruits is kind of exaggerating...
+Nav Lartin I'm thinking that despite what Y'ffre wanted with the Green Pact, there were some exceptions. I'm thinking that it was more for larger things like tree's and bushes. Smaller things such as grass or leaves would be allowed, though they likely would try to avoid it.
+Lou Not exactly. The plants of Valenwood are sentient. For the Bosmer to pull limbs off the trees or eat their fruit would be akin to someone walking up and just snipping a lock of your hair off to eat or breaking off your arm. In this same respect we can take it that the plants of the wood don't appreciate animals. Wild elks and the like that stomp through their region eating the grasses that no doubt the trees see as friends. Or birds carving hollows in their bodies to make homes. So the trees call to the Bosmer, eat the animals. Prey on those who would prey on us. It's something you see a lot of in nature. The herbivorous animalss are like parasites to the sentient plant life of the wood. The Bosmer hunt and kill these parasites and in exchange the trees allow the elves to live in their branches. It's also clear that this greenpact was made by the Bosmer to a forest god, and gods are kind of well known for odd deals.
K this is hilarious. I NEVER knew Bosmer were cannibals. But my first character on Skyrim, a Wood Elf named Tyrelmil, consumes bodies because he did the Namira questline... I NEVER knew this was actually a thing in Valenwood... Wooooooww!
This is one of my favorite videos by you guys. The quote at the beginning really sets the tone for the whole piece and the choice of pictures was well organized. I always thought the Bosmer were kind of silly, like many Elves. Then I watched this and read more of their lore and I fell in love with the race and the idea of visiting Valenwood. It's the only reason I'm joining the Aldmeri Dominion in ESO.
Why are people so surprised that the Wood Elves are cannibals? Do most people not realise that the companions and any other werewolf are cannibals as well?
A Pretty Sick Lad technically that's incorrect since Werewolf means they are a completely different race at this point. all together something different. since if this is the case then Vampires would be considered a type of Cannibal as well. Just like Vampire's, Werewolves are all together classed as non-basic race
The Green Pact and the cannibalism that comes with it is easily my favorite part of mer lore. It's just so refreshing, not to have it dictated as a chaotic/evil trope.
probably the most underused race in elder scrolls v along with imperials (seriously, how many wood elf and imperial players you know?), but my favorite to play as a ranger/archer
Wow, very well spoken, the Wood Elves although cannibalistic are really just defensive of their home and become victims in many major conflicts and plagues. They only wish to protect their sacred land but fall into threats and traps by the whole of Tamriel. My favorite story of lore by far :D
It might be because they ran out of lore to do that fits the videos they make and that ESO kinda made a lot of shoddy cast lore obsolete like changing the ancient men who came from atmora from Nords to nedes and the lusty argonians maid existing in the second era when it was made it the third era
ShoddyCast "If confrontation is inevitable, a wood elf will forgo a long starvation period before the day of battle" I don't think you understand what the word "forgo" means, because what you said implies a standard starvation period, from which the wood elves abstain. This means they're not fighting hungry.
Lightscribe225 if you listened, the Bosmer made a pact that as long as they called the forests home, they couldn't harvest any of it's wood for fires, or eat any of it's fruit.
I can't imagine eating my dead enemy. Even though he/she/they attacked me, I always leave them with their armor on, my way to respect them because they died in battle. I can respect that. Once, I found a merchant in Windhelm. He looked creepy and imitating, so I hired him for 500 gold. But fighting with a Ice Wraith, he screamed: "You win! I yield, I yield" He was a Nord. Nords never give up. So I killed him after that. Pussy...
Thank you for these stories. As a practitioner of Chaos Magic(k) I often times work with subjectively fictional mythos and more than a few times the myths of the Elder Scrolls have made it into my practice. These videos help to give more gravitas to the myths and I sincerely thank you for making them :) Once I have a little money to spare it will be coming your way :)
Thank you that kind of helps me decide which faction to go to in skyrim. & though some nords are ignorant a**holes at times but the fact that Talos had mercy for Valenwood gives me a good backstory for my character
Valenwood sounds interesting but the bosmer are batshit crazy. I'll pick a imperial, and join the Daggerfall covenant. No Mer... what do you want more?
One thing I like about the convenant is, that these 3 races realy fit together. Although they had their fights in the past ( every race on Tamriel has had that ) they make a strong alliance. The Ebonheartpact isn't more as one can expect. Just a loose pact of 3 races, that will crumble as soon they encounter difficulties. Props to the Nords, but the Dark Elves and their former Slaves will ruin it. And the Aldmeri Dominion? We all know the might-hungry Altmer. Do you think they helped the Khajit just to be good people? And I can already hear, how they mock their little cousins, who aren't as superior as they are. Orcs have honour. Bretons are smart and know what they are capable of. And redguards are one of the most underestimated races of Tamriel. Even if the Covenant is low in numbers of soldiers and provinces - I think they will take the prize ; )
It doesn't make sense. Why do the Bosmer not eat vegetation from the land, but they eat the animals in the land who in turn eat the vegetation from the land. I think the whole idea is silly. Why not just cut out the middle man?
Because Bethesda did not think it through. Besides, a meat-only diet is not going to support an entire race. Beasts would be hunted down to extinction. History teaches us that humans need agriculture to settle.
Richardsen Well, Most of our history didn't know agriculture. All of the Old Stone age was without farming. Yes, a meat only diet is hard, but also there is a lot of people with no meat diets, right? And also they would adapt to it.
Ella C True; agriculture eluded us for a long time. But prior to that, we complemented hunting with gathering, and we had to be constantly on the move because the resources of one area would quickly deplet. The Bosmer do not have such luxuries. The only thing I can think of is that Bosmer populations is actually quite small (at least inside Valenwood) and in turn they do not need to hunt a large number of animals, keeping some kind of balance. That, or the animal species in Valenwood reproduce faster than rabbits :)
***** Exactly. It is called the Green Pact, IIRC. The Bosmer do not harm the trees and, in return, the forest deitry protects them. I think that these kind of inconsistencies (such as the alchemy issue you mention) are innevitable, as long as you have such big games like the Elders Scrolls series, with so many books and story floating around. It would take a very centralized and organized control and audit effort to monitor all the lore to avoid such inconsistencies.
so all i need to do is not bathe for a month and i can fight any Bosmer i want, they Wouldnt dare kill me unless they wantt to eat stinky meat mwehehehehe
+Boink Ogre Rivers everywhere. It was specifically mentioned how they had some time to do it, they would just drag you to the nearest pond and wash the pieces as they want to eat you :D
going through the playlist I've noticed 9 of the 10 races banding together into three groups when molag bal attacks: group 1: Nords, Argonians, and Dunmer (Dark Elves) Group 2: Bretons, Orsimer (Orcs) and Redguards, and Group 3: Altmer (High Elves), Bosmer (Wood Elves) and Khajiit. Imperials were outta luck :)
Bosmer are the best Elven race. They learned to respect nature and their fellow man (mer if you prefer). They don't need pure brute strength (Orcs), magic (High Elves), Machines (Dwemer) and whatever the Dunmer and Falmer are attributed in.
each race has their obvious pros and cons but overall i do prefer the wood elf because it fits my character type, sneaky and quick. but to someone who takes a different path, maybe as a tank, could be just as successful in their play through because thats what they prefer. but all that choice bullshit aside, bosmer are the tits
LIVEbaboonballoons I agree. My play style in most games tends to go down the path of sneaky, fast, invisible. I guess I'm just not one for mindlessly steamrolling my way through a game (not that there's anything wrong about that, it's just not my style). So I usually play a wood elf in the Elder scrolls. But I have to say, the lore for these races makes them so much more interesting. I have Oblivion and now I'm thinking maybe I should do a playthrough as each race.
imagine having to eat a giant camp, with mamoths and a dragon, plus maybe an assassin (i bet it has happened) during that time xD (really? no upvotes for the had to be said pun? xD damn)
