eleanor figuring "it" out | The Good Place BAD PLACE Reveal! | Comedy Bites 

*camera focuses on Jason’s proud smile*

“This is a real low point. Yeah. This one hurts.”

As soon as Jason interrupts Michael’s face is amazing.

Jason actually figured it out first - he realized they were one a prank show.

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Definitely. I can't add anything to that. Well said

The fact that it was on TV and did all that you said is really one in a million. I assume we won't get another television series like it on TV for the next 20 years.

@@amirriddle we did, it's called Ted Lasso 🙂

@@melportolan5653 I'll definitely check it out then 👍

Right because there were never smart shows on American TV ever... Jesus Christ don't be pretentious.

Blowed?

room temp IQ comment

It’s “blew my mind”, dear.

Are you trying to sound like Jason?

I fully like jaw dropped at that the first time I watch it

Was looking for this comment. Everything about it is just so deliciously evil!😈 Gives me goosebumps every time!😆

I'll never forget this moment. I am kind of cursed with seeing plot developments ahead of time. But this was an iconic season-long twist that totally caught me by surprise. And how Ted Danson's mask sort of just beautifully slips subtly and then full ... it's wonderful.

I felt so betrayed lmao. I gasped out loud.

​@@MollyInannait's a really well done twist I mean they literally had him kick a puppy into the sun!! But they got us to write it off as him being a wreck because of everything going on, and then we were genuinely surprised and betrayed when he pulled out that grin, it's amazing

I love how Eleanor uses that same laugh when she's playing the bad place architect role in the season 4 experiment

I did have it spoiled after only watching the second episode, but it still totally worked. The writing was on the wall in giant neon letters already. But getting to that reveal is still great fun!

I was "spoiled" by seeing the reaction meme gif, but when I started watching I thought it would just be Eleanor being hyperbolic. The show managed to convince me that they were in the Good Place even when I had already technically been told the truth.

Same. I got semi-spoiled, because I saw that montage of Eleanore figuring it out, but I assumed it was a fan edit or something and that it was just a regular sitcom or something, and I didn’t put it together until the reveal

You have 3-4 negations in that post... I can only guess what you mean 😁

To me, what spoiled it was the inability to cuss. As soon as that was mentioned I was like "Oh. So it's the bad place?"

She also has a fairly-good bullshirt detector

Dead giveaway.

​@@ligiabonfanti3493Na that was in the first episode. Michael giveaway that she's dead. Yes that was a joke.

I mean, if the first time he just planned better and he didnt say "yeah this is the bad place", o he didnt smile on the best attept (dat 128)

Yeah. Micheal forgot to add what the first one add. Subtly.

Oh my god i never noticed thats amazing, i love the idea of micheal just being like "MORE CLOWNS, IF THIS SHIP IS GOING DOWN IM MAKING SURE SHE SUFFERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE"

I never even noticed that!! Brilliant 😂

The clowns are everywhere in the bad place.

Its a metaphore for how the humans are getting clowned ​@DarthTach

And other details in specific moves and characteristics. Like, there's a scene in Michael's office when "real Eleanor" (i.e., Vicki) and Bambajan are there, and when they keep referring to Eleanor and Vicki as "real Eleanor" and "fake Eleanor" and Eleanor finally is so bothered by it and says (I don't remember the exact quote, but paraphrased), "Can we stop referring to me as 'fake Eleanor,'" Bambajan steps in and says (again, paraphrased, as I don't remember it word-for-word), "actually, it helps me a lot to refer to you two as 'real' and 'fake' Eleanor." It makes so much more sense on the rewatch and makes it quite clear they're torturing them! And this happens a lot! Michael's conversations with Chidi before the reveal always involve adding yet another choice out-of-nowhere and overemphasizing the importance of Chidi making the right choice (i.e., he keeps reminding Chidi Eleanor's life is at stake, he keeps pointing out that the mistake has "ruined" the algorithm and that there's no way to be sure they're making the right choice - Michael plays it off like he himself is being indecisive, but basically, it's obvious in hindsight that he's setting Chidi up to be miserable no matter what he does because he can't possibly know if he's made the right choice 😂😂😂)! Even simple details make sense - like Vicki and Bambajan telling Eleanor she should go tell Chidi she loves him (when they're discussing her *case* on whether she gets to stay in the "Good Place" - like, that's a "strange" decision) moments after a painting made by Chidi is delivered to Tahani that is *exactly* what Michael told him to paint for her, all while Chidi is in the middle of a nervous breakdown over the aforementioned "what if I screw this up and Eleanor goes to the Bad Place? Also, I can never know if I was right or wrong because the mistake has scrambled the algorithm" conversation with Michael! At first glance, it's a throwaway "love triangle" moment. But on rewatch, it is *patently* obvious *not only* that it was meant to pile on the torture of Chidi, but also how well thought out the torture of Chidi was! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And on that note, I should say, I theorize that another reason the plan failed was that these characters (especially Chidi and Tahani) were far more resilient to their torture than Michael or the demons expected. Simply put, the situation I mentioned above - where Chidi was *already* having a nervous breakdown *before* the pile on - should've *broken* Chidi! I theorize that Michael thought, at that moment, Chidi was going to go catatonic (like Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off when he sees the mileage on the car) due to being so overwhelmed by stress (because he was *already* having trouble breathing *before* the pile on)! But, on rewatch, I noticed Chidi actually did *really* well to calm himself down in that moment when he was about to have the panic attack of all panic attacks! Feel free to assume that that theory is wrong or insert your own theories, but I wanted to mention that theory because it's fun and actually makes sense given the context - i.e., the show includes several minor "twists" when characters actually display a major moment of growth at an unexpected time when everything is about to fall apart (i.e., Tahani becomes *truly* selfless when it seems like her selfishness is about ruin everything. Chidi calms himself down when his anxiety is about to ruin everything. Etc)! It fits perfectly, and I like the theory that *not only* were *we* the audience not expecting those "twists" but *neither* were Michael and the demons (and those "twists" are often what ultimately halts their plan right when it's about to hit its point-of-no-return)! 🙂🙂🙂🙂 Anyway, hope you enjoyed my comment!

And I love that the show realises this, and calls back to it. Eleanor is such a bro and takes the moment to give Jason credit for it

AND full circle when she becomes the architect in the last season. eleanor is such a good character and i love her arc so much

​@@aweckzsEleanor isn't the one who becomes an architect, that's Tahani

Jason’s smile at that is perfect

It was such a brilliant way to let people completely swear, but ... not swear.

she doesn't really seem to look at him, she just happens to turn her head on his direction but her eyes didn't fixate on him. She quickly looks away again as she's realizing where they are because of the fighting.

I feel like people overuse the word "instantly" for these things. I think that what's far more impactful is that she had the idea, then spends a good few seconds letting it gradually sink in as she realises that yes… she's right An idea that big takes a little while to fully sink in, as you recontextualize everything that it's connected to

Ya'll are legit and I love you! This was a blurb I just made on my way to class but I appreciate the likes!

Meh, I have mixed feelings about that place.

​@@LinguaPhiliaxkinda medium, don't you think?

Oh hey, that's random. Certainly didn't expect to see one of my fav RL streamers of old here. Hope you're doing good HKBoba!

@@yng1234 haha small world. I'm doing good, thanks!!

The closest you can get is reliving it through reaction channels which is so satisfying when you know the twist but they don’t 😂

I highly recommend rewatching it! If you've already rewatched it, rewatch it again! Like, you notice *so much more* in the rewatches and I'd argue it's *so much better* each time you rewatch it! 🙂🙂🙂

DYING!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

have you seen her in "The Girl in the Window Across the Street" ?

Well she IS a Disney princess. 😉

Same here

Yeah, I avoid endings too. There's no need to sign up for more emotional turmoil than you can take

I did a rewatch months ago. Somewhere last year. Still haven't seen the last one, because I am not mentally prepared 😂

I mean the existence of a good place implies that there’s a bad place and the entire basis for the torture hinges on the fact that Eleanor knows she shouldn’t be there

TLDR: They could have told her that the 'bad' souls don't go anywhere. To the second point, yeah, the torture, as presented, relies on her knowing that there's another place and that she's supposed to be there instead. To the first point, the existence of a 'heaven' does not necessarily imply the existence of a 'hell'. They could have told her that bad souls simply burn up when they try to pass from life into afterlife or maybe they get recycled into new souls, which would have addressed the second point as well. Many other things would have had to change, but she wouldn't so quickly figure out that she was in 'the wrong place' if she didn't know another place existed. @@Bubaiel

LOL I actually have a theory that Michael's plan "failed" because it didn't work as well as he thought it would (and not just because of the time it lasted, though that's not unrelated). Simply put, there were *a number* of moments in the show where a "twist" (a small one) happened when a character actually overcame/outgrew a major flaw that looked like it was about to upend everything and "break" the situation beyond repair (i.e., the characters would be forever miserable afterwards)! My theory is that *not only* did these moments surprise *us* (the audience), but *also* Michael, who thought those moments would "complete" his plan and that the four of Eleanor, Tahani, Chidi, and Jason would never recover! But the fact that a character outgrew their flaw and "saved" the situation before it became unfixable threw a wrench in Michael's plan - and ultimately, allowed them to "survive" (without completely breaking) long enough to keep their wits about them to figure out what was *actually* happening! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I believe the best example of this is when Eleanor and Tahani (egged on by others that we now know were demons the entire time) told Chidi they loved him! Simply put, that happened *right* as Chidi was having a full-blown nervous breakdown thanks to Michael (who piled on on Chidi moments before that moment about how important it was that he make the right decision *and* about how there was *no way* to know if he made the right decision)! My theory is that Michael figured *that* added pile on of Eleanor and Tahani saying that would send Chidi over-the-edge and he'd go catatonic and the situation would no longer be salvageable! But Chidi actually showed remarkable growth in that moment and calmed himself down! There are *a number* of moments like this (like when Jason is refusing to allow the train to return from the Medium Place), and my theory is that Michael banked on certain bad decisions being made by certain characters that would make the situation unsalvageable, but these characters kept surprising him (and us)! The show strongly implies that if Chidi breaks in that moment, or Jason refuses to let the train return, then (in addition to the situation becoming so horrible there's no fixing) these characters feel so depressed and terrible that they go *truly* insane! My theory is that Michael actually got it to the brink of that point *multiple* times, but it "fell apart" at the last moment due to a character showing surprising growth at the last possible second! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 So yes, thanks for mentioning that, because I theorize that Michael's plan *did* "fail," because he was looking to break these characters' psyches beyond repair, and *failed* to do that - but came *awfully* close to doing so *several* times! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Short version: Michael *very nearly* succeeded (both in time *and* in quantity of "torture"), and your comment is a lot closer to being true than many of us realize!

Me too lol