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electrowinning of iron from ferrous sulfate 

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This proceedure is good for pruducing very fine iron crystals with high surface area good for the reduction of various organic compounds.
The voltage is 12V and the electrolyte is H2SO4 and filler sulfate salts like MgSO4 or Na2SO4 or even just plain NaHSO4 or even HCl.
Iron sources in the solution not connected to anode are required to limit the production of iron 3 ions.
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@sandorszabo9211
@sandorszabo9211 Месяц назад
The utility knife blade used as anode at one point is an iron chromium alloy, so chromium is also present here.
@TOXXIE
@TOXXIE Год назад
catboy supremacy
@niocalsgreogiro
@niocalsgreogiro Год назад
Y E S
@WaffleStaffel
@WaffleStaffel Год назад
Very interesting!
@gsestream
@gsestream 8 месяцев назад
the copper version will electroplate a thin film on the target electrode which detaches from the surface by sulfuric acid corrosion from the underside of the film. if you remove the sulfuric acid you should get iron on the surface without the iron detaching from the surface.
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety 8 месяцев назад
I don't want a thin layer here because this iron is for organic reduction but for that I would use something like iron 2 acetate instead.
@niocalsgreogiro
@niocalsgreogiro Год назад
Very cool project and above all original, since I have searched and nobody has made a full tutorial on this, to the point that the only thing I found related to this was the US2667455A patent. 3:33 Nice timelapse btw
@niocalsgreogiro
@niocalsgreogiro Год назад
And gorgeous outro :3
@abdiseptiaputra
@abdiseptiaputra 5 месяцев назад
Hello, sir. What do you think if in electrowinning/electroplating of iron, we added thiourea as an additive. Can we inhibit corrosion of deposited iron with that?
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety 5 месяцев назад
Might be a good idea although this iron is specifically for reduction of nitro groups into amines
@abdiseptiaputra
@abdiseptiaputra 5 месяцев назад
​@@CatboyChemicalSociety Oh, so thats why you peeled the deposited iron from substrate. Currently, I'm doing a project to electroplate a carbon fiber mesh (CFRP) with Fe from FeSO4.7H2O electrolyte to make a Nickel-Iron Battery. May I ask, what other compounds that is non-toxic which likely can be added to electroplating bath as an additive to inhibit corrosion of the deposited metal? that will not precipitate salt in a KOH solution?
@guyf4918
@guyf4918 Год назад
if you ever do it again and you need to clean oxides off the shavings, try using some concentrated organic acid such as Citric or Acetic, those would dissolve the oxides but not the elemental iron.
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety Год назад
yea but that is pointless due to its high surface area and this iron is meant to be used as a reactant for particular reactions. If I wanted a piece to keep then I would plate it at lower current densities for weeks or maybe even with membrane.
@guyf4918
@guyf4918 Год назад
@@CatboyChemicalSociety I mean exactly in order to clean high surface area reactive iron powder, i would suggest using stuff like Citric acid since it's a chelating substance aka it would dissolve only the oxides off the iron powder's surface, but would not react with the rest of the particle after removing the oxides. it would make your iron powder more reactive since there will be no oxides on it's surface but won't eat away your powder leaving you with less product (like HCL would for example)
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety Год назад
yea could work but then the moment even any air or O2 diffuses into solution it reacts. I also dont know if citrates/acetates are compatible with the bechamp reduction.
@guyf4918
@guyf4918 Год назад
@MysteriusBhoice you could flush off all remaining Citrates with acetone probably & cover the powder up with some paraffin oil or something similar to protect it from further oxidation, same way chemical vendors store things like alkali metals. why would you need the Citrates to be compatible with the Bechamp reduction anyway? aren't all the citrates that will be formed by the dissolution of the oxides going to be removed and thrown away anyway?
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety Год назад
@@guyf4918 yea but with high surface area you will undoubtably have some citrate contamination which maybe an issue. like sure you can clean it up as much as you can but if the final result is Fe2O3 anyway it wont matter. like maybe for presentation it makes sense or to store in element collection but my main focus was to really prepare something usable for the purpose of that reaction.
@petevenuti7355
@petevenuti7355 Год назад
Wouldn't using a non aqueous electrolyte help avoid much the oxidation?
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety Год назад
yea but that kills resistance badly.
@karolus28
@karolus28 Год назад
Cool
@asstronix6657
@asstronix6657 Год назад
OK but you just used the ironsuflate solution as an transmitter... True? The cathode is the ironsource!? Anode is copper? Damn I need to watch it again.... Need subtitles 🤧 I hope nurderage is OK 😭
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety Год назад
no the anode is iron and copper is cathode. There is also free iron in the form of pieces of metal dipped in solution shown at 3 minutes to reduce iron 3 sulfate into iron 2 sulfate. This iron is also not for electroforming tho it can be used for plating a thin layer of iron but mainly its used to prepare iron with high active surface area for the purpose of reduction of nitro groups into amine groups known as the bechamp reduction.
@asstronix6657
@asstronix6657 Год назад
@@CatboyChemicalSociety thx you for answering! I wish you could do with membrane! 😊🙏 To get the sulfur would be awsome 🤤
@WeebRemover4500
@WeebRemover4500 Год назад
this is nurdrages new channel, you live under a rock?
@CatboyChemicalSociety
@CatboyChemicalSociety Год назад
@@WeebRemover4500 lol I wouldnt know of nurdrage's status idk what he meant. we actually made a joke if nurdrage would end up as a catboy how would he look like.
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