Turns out Elemental wasn't a failure and didn't bomb after all and Pixar and Disney ended up winning. Shoutout to Wade. My bad! - FOLLOW ME: Twitter ► / zeepsterd Instagram► / zeepsterd
To go from one of the worst performing Pixar movies, to the highest grossing Disney animated movie since 2019 is quite a miracle, and a deserved one at that. I'm glad it's not a total loss, as the film itself is actually pretty good.
Crazy how it went from only slightly better than lightyear to surpassing Encanto. I'm so happy. This film didn't deserve to flop at all. It was honestly really heartfelt, you could tell this was a passion project.
It's kind of a miracle that Elemental was allowed to become a sleeper hit instead of being written off after that first weekend, since anymore studios are stupidly impatient.
Apart from Oppenheimer (which I was going to see as my le bomb killed people) watching the highs and lows of all these major movies has been like watching a sports game that you have no investment.
I actually DID think this movie would have legs, and I'm less surprised that it has turned out to be a comeback, than I am that box office experts have admitted it rather than trying to find reasons it's still a disaster.
Minor critique: "most profitable" and "highest grossing" are treated as interchangeable during the Barbenheimer part of this. They're very different things, even though it's understandable how it feels tempting to say it the way you did.
Real successful or not (because the comments are saying things about sketchy accounting), any success Elemental is having I credit to keeping it running in theaters instead of just dumping it on Disney Plus after getting skittish on early unsuccess. Like, I don't have hard numbers, but I want to say a lot of "recent bombs" had like 2-3 weeks in theaters and then were quickly dropped on the company streaming service that's hemorrhaging money in a desperate attempt to not lose the streaming wars, instead of just letting it play in theaters for some months and get "mature product revenue." Like, I wanted to see Ruby Gillman but I was busy every weekend it was in theaters, and then it wasn't anymore when I was free. Like, I have things I have to do many weekends and my weekdays are basically shot due to work, and I know I'm not the only person in this situation, and FOMO isn't really enough incentive to make sure I have an open weekend in the first 3 weeks of release, it's an "I'll get to it if I can" thing.
I know your probably wrote and recorded this before the news, but Disney is currently in a lawsuit for ALLEGEDLY lying about how much Elemental made. The plot keeps thickening for this random ass movie.
While I certainly don't like a few aspects of the movie, for it to flop, I don't think it'd have deserved it. In at least a passing grade, it should make some profit, cause it would have had some good effort thrown in.
Okay. So I managed to watch this movie and did. I hate it well. Will you see when I first saw it? I didn't want to watch It. Honestly, it wasn't until now. I. Decided to so I watched it and remarkably. This is actually really good like seriously. Good like it has a really strong message. It really did I had Small tears and the love triangle with this was so beautiful like I first I thought the love with water and fire was a little silly but no, this was actually really strong And it really reminded me of my relationship with my girlfriend? Well, you see a long time ago or at least 1 year ago I was doing this girl that she was so into anime. We dated like 9 months and she think I did some. Thing and honestly I didn't do anything until I calmed her down. It's like she was fire and I was water. It definitely remind me of this and frankly. My girlfriend laughed and honestly I. Felt a little sad honestly, but she inspired me to find. Someone perfect and frankly. I hope I find one but. Getting back into the movie, it was really good. Honestly, I did think it was good. The message was strong and everything. I would definitely give it a seven out of ten and frankly sorry if my taxes a lot, honestly
Ad budgets are often as much as movie production budgets. So, a 70 million dollar production will have a 70 million ad budget, 140 million all together. It ain't cheap to push a movie these days.
@Jester2415 jeez. that changes my perspective on movie budgets drastically. I've always just looked them up for one reason or another and assumed that was it. didn't think to just double it to figure out what truly was spent.
I think it will or has just surpassed Puss in Boot 2. Which based on internet word of mouth is like the 2nd coming of Jesus and caused Disney to go bankrupt.
As a fan of Fena Pirate Princess and Shenmue the Animation, I was heartbroken when they got canned. Yet the Flash got to stay, despite what Ezra did. So I felt a lot of catharsis from The Flash being ass-kicked by Elemental and Across the Spider-Verse. Barry may kick Wade and Miles’ asses but they have the better movies.
Judging a movie from how much money it makes was always silly. Mario is not good because it made a billion and this movie was not bad because it was not doing well!
The film is still a flop unfortunately. It cost $200M to make, $100M to market which totals to $300M and considering the fact that theatres take half the box office a films makes means elemental would need $600M to break even. It will not hit test number but it’s comeback is still really good for Pixar!
Where did you pull all that nonsense from? By this logic captain America the fist avenger was a bomb. Also Not a single source in the world has ever claimed that the break even point is higher than 500 million dollars. Most sources point to anywhere between 400 and 450 million dollars. Jim Morris, head of Pixar, himself claimed that the movie is doing better than break even in the CINEMAS ALONE. That's no bomb. That's a massive financial success
@@nonbinarygenderqueerhomosa8820Don’t forget Batman Begins which made $373 million against its $150 million budget yet was still considered successful enough to get a sequel
@@RB01.10 BINGO! That's actually a really good example. That movie also failed to meet the arbitrary 'rule' many of these self-procclaimed experts use to judge how successful a film is. And like you said, it was considered a success enough to create sequels. Which in turn became the most successful iteration of batman movie. Imagine if these same commenters were in charge of warner bros back then "lol not meeting the 2.5 threshold, bomb. let's cancel the sequels boys! We dodged a bullet there"
@@RB01.10 That would be successful as it would have made a lot of money through DVD sales at the time. Nowadays you don’t have that so a lot of these films flop
It may be successful now, but that's not due to the writing improving Just because it had a comeback in sales doesn't mean it had a comeback in writing It's still a sub-par movie
@@Trident_Gaming03 Maybe explore the writing from a different perspective or view to get a general idea from multiple reviewers. I would say that Elements isn't perfect and has some flaws, but I do relate to the immigration and the challenges of preserving your heritage/honoring your family's hardship, whilst finding/discovering your own journey to the world outside your family and heritage.
Wasn’t it kept in theaters longer to artificially boost its numbers? The movie just didn’t look that interesting, why can’t people accept that? So many movies are about immigrants and acceptance and cultures. Why isn’t anything just fun and entertaining anymore?
What do you mean they 'heavily marketed this movie'? I barely saw any marketing of any sort. The only times I knew anything about it was through a few ads in the cinemas and the internet. Is this movie a massive success? No of course not. But is this movie massive enough for Disney? Well given the fact that the movie rose from the ashes after being quickly written off as a failure by many people including you and myself AND the fact it is the highest grossing original animated movie made by Pixar since 2017 and the first Disney movie to not lose money in the cinemas since 2019 AND the first post-John Lasseter movie to be profitable ,this movie is a juggernaut. I fully expect to see Wade and Ember's steam baby in that sequel they're hopefully making
