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Elementary vs. Non-Elementary integral battles! (beyond regular calculus) 

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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
Battle 1, integral of cos(x^2) vs integral of cos(ln(x)), @1:00 Battle 2, integral of ln(1-x^2) vs integral of ln(1-e^x), @7:55 Battle 3, integral of x^(x/ln(x)) vs integral of x^x, @16:23 Battle 4, integral of x*sqrt(x^3+4) vs integral of x*sqrt(x^4+4), @19:29 Battle 5, integral of x/ln(x) vs integral of ln(x)/x, @32:25 Battle 6, integral of ln(ln(x)) vs integral of sqrt(x*sqrt(x)), @34:00 Battle 7, integral of sqrt(sin(x)) vs integral of sin(sqrt(x)), @36:13 Battle 8, integral of sqrt(tan(x)) vs integral of tan(sqrt(x)), @40:52 Battle 9, integral of tan^-1(x) vs integral of sin^-1(x)/cos^-1(x), @59:13 Battle 10, integral of 1/(1-x^2)^(2/3) vs integral of 1/(1-x^2)^(3/2), @1:04:23 file: docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/287ba5_3f60c34605f1494498f02a83c2e62b29.pdf
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 5 лет назад
New challange for me😊
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 5 лет назад
wow nice timestamp! Should be pinned yrself!
@yaleng4597
@yaleng4597 5 лет назад
Where are those special functions?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Yale NG Which ones are you talking about? They never appeared in the video.
@abhishektyagi4428
@abhishektyagi4428 5 лет назад
SIR THE RESOURCES AND LINKS TO LEARN MATHEMATICS THAT YOU SAID IN YOUR VIDEO WITH fematika ARE STILL NOT UPLOADED IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE VIDEO , please do upload those links
@hunter6549
@hunter6549 5 лет назад
Another approach to the integral of ln(1-x^2) dx would be to factor the inside and then use the product rule of logarithms to get the integral of ln(1-x) + ln(1+x) dx. It's a bit easier to solve this way.
@The1RandomFool
@The1RandomFool 4 года назад
Just a real minor point of #4: you could also do a hyperbolic trig substitution instead, and you'd get a simple inverse hyperbolic sine term in the final answer instead of the natural logarithm. That natural logarithm is also convertible to the inverse hyperbolic sine.
@benjaminbrady2385
@benjaminbrady2385 5 лет назад
Solution to integral of sqrt(tan(x)): There's a blackpenredpen video on that + c
@helloitsme7553
@helloitsme7553 5 лет назад
The way I like to think about the Integral of cos(x^2): with some clever substitutions and Euler's formula it can be shown that it can be written in terms of the integral of e^(x^2) and since that cannot be defined in terms of elementary functions, thus the integral of cos(x^2) cannot be
@aashsyed1277
@aashsyed1277 3 года назад
heloo
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 5 лет назад
I want to know, how to prove that the integral of a function is not elementary, please tell
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
Chirayu Jain It’s quite hard to prove it mathematically. I think we need to know Galois theory from advanced abstract algebra in order to do so. I actually don’t have experience in it unfortunately.
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 5 лет назад
@@blackpenredpen, what a coincidence I started learning abstract algebra just 2 weeks before., 😁
@japotillor
@japotillor 5 лет назад
Galios Theory, it's probably easier to just know which ones are non-elementary, rather than to prove each one individually.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Chirayu Jain You can prove the non-elementariness of an integral using the Risch algorithm.
@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p 5 лет назад
@@japotillor That by itself doesn't disprove that there might be some weird unknown way to do an integral.
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 5 лет назад
One-hour long video but u definitely spent a lot more time than that! Your effort should be appreciated! And also the patreon list grows longer everytime 😁👍 PS it's 1am here in HK and yr thumbnail looks cool with some chill 😆
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
Mak Vinci lollll thank you!! I prob will make another thumbnail tho. I don’t think that is that appealing lol
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 5 лет назад
@@blackpenredpen Hey keep this kind of thumbnail man(but not too many), it makes others curious to press the thumbnail 😁
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
To integrate arcsin(x)/arccos(x) from x = -1 to x = t < 1, let x = cos(θ). Then dx = -sin(θ) dθ. The integrand is now -arcsin(cos(θ))·sin(θ)/θ. The bounds are from θ = π to θ = arccos(t). On the interval (0, π), which is the codomain and range of arccos(t), arcsin(cos(θ)) = π/2 - θ. Therefore, the integrand is -(π/2 - θ)·sin(θ)/θ. Factoring -1 will change the bounds to run from θ = arccos(t) to θ = π, with integrand (π/2 - θ)·sin(θ)/θ. By linearity, this gives the integrals of (π/2)·sin(θ)/θ and -sin(θ). The first integral is equal to (π/2)·(Si(π) - Si(arccos(t))), and the second is equal to cos(π) - cos(arccos(t)) = -(1 + t). Then the total integral is simply equal to [(π/2)·Si(π) - 1] - (t + Si[arccos(t)]). Call (π/2)·Si(π) - 1 = C, so the integral is simply C - t - Si(arccos(t)). Done! For the record, Si(x) is defined as the integral from s = 0 to s = x of sin(s)/s. We can extend the answer to other intervals, but this requires some caution, since arcsin(cos(θ)) = π/2 - θ is no longer true in other intervals.
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 2 года назад
This is the best video You have made - of those I've seen. I was especially happy to know that ln(ln(x)) is a non-fundamental function. That question has been bothering me for years.
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 3 года назад
22:21 Euler's substitution sqrt(u^2+4)=t-u would be better idea here Last one third Euler substution (with roots) or integrating by parts also are good option
@iabervon
@iabervon 5 лет назад
On the first one, it was obvious, because cos(ln x)=(x^i+x^-i)/2. Power rule, separate real and imaginary coefficients, and put it back to trig functions. Even if you're not going to use complex numbers, you can guess the right integral because cos is like an exponential and goes well with ln and poorly with x^2.
@giovanni1946
@giovanni1946 5 лет назад
So nice to see a notification from bprp just after the first day of school :D
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
Thanks!!!!
@OOTMI
@OOTMI 5 лет назад
I love your enthusiasm!
@GSHAPIROY
@GSHAPIROY 4 года назад
15:05 In the last two terms of that answer (before the +C) it was not necessary to use absolute value around the ln input. Respond to this comment if you can figure out why!
@Armbrust666
@Armbrust666 5 лет назад
The second one was a bit over the top, ln(1-x^2)=ln((1-x)(1+x))=ln(1-x)+ln(1+x)
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 5 лет назад
Either way you need to do integration by parts. Personally, I broke up the ln but if makes sense to use IBP with a bit of work extra then go for it. As long as you get an answer and understand the process
@-james-8343
@-james-8343 5 лет назад
GhostyOcean no you don’t need to do integration by parts with the method he stated. After you split the ln you can split the integral and solve them both by u sub
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
-James- Integrating ln(u) requires integration by parts, so you are wrong.
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 5 лет назад
@@-james-8343 in order to integrate ln(x) you need to do IBP unless you have the answer memorized (xln(x)-x)
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 5 лет назад
Gábor Tóth Tbh, it’s just as hard if you split it. I split it, and if anything, that made it harder because you have to do IBP twice.
@alejrandom6592
@alejrandom6592 3 года назад
19:57 you can do both u-sub and trig-sub at the same time by letting x^2=2tan(theta) ;) then, xdx is nicely equal to sec^2 and the rest is just the usual
@ayushk3870
@ayushk3870 5 лет назад
Integration of e^-xx from +inf To -inf with pler co-ordinates
@originalph00tbag
@originalph00tbag 11 месяцев назад
Number 9 is a pretty straightforward battle, once you know the formula for antiderivatives of inverse functions. As long as a function has an elementary antiderivative, its inverse has an antiderivative of the form, xf^-1(x) - F(f^-1(x)). Once you know tan(x) has antiderivative ln|sec(x)| + C, you just plug tan^-1(x) into the formula and do some trig identities on sec(tan^-1(x)) to get the same result.
@adityakumarvishwakarma7282
@adityakumarvishwakarma7282 5 лет назад
Sir please make a video on ramanujan formula on finding value of pi
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 5 лет назад
Oon Han has made a video on it
@accountfantoccio5608
@accountfantoccio5608 5 лет назад
Would it actually be faster to integrate cos(ln(x)) by using the complex definition of the cosine? You would then need to integrate (x^i+x^-i)/2, which is just a matter of integrating polinomials.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Account Fantoccio Relatively, yes.
@JamesLewis2
@JamesLewis2 10 месяцев назад
You probably made that future video already, but it is interesting to point out that the most obvious attempt to antidifferentiate arcsin(x)/arccos(x) with respect to x results in the sine integral: A basic trigonometric identity has arcsin(x)=π/2−arccos(x), from which the integrand becomes ½π/arccos(x)−1; then the substitution x=cos(y) with dx=−sin(y)dy results in the sine integral. That is, ∫arcsin(x)/arccos(x) dx = -x−½π∫sin(y)/y dy = −x−½πSi(arccos(x))+C.
@charlietlo4228
@charlietlo4228 16 дней назад
20:00 you can directly let x = √(2tan(theta))
@wenhanzhou5826
@wenhanzhou5826 5 лет назад
who else got a smile on the face at 16:15 because you have watched an old bprp video?
@williamadams137
@williamadams137 5 лет назад
Sun and clouds me
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 5 лет назад
Sun and clouds Nah, I still messed it up, ffs. 😂😂😂
@seeeeeelf
@seeeeeelf 2 года назад
7:55 wouldn't that be easier to just factor 1-x^2 as (1-x)(1+x) and then use the log propertry to split the ln of the product?
@ishanbanjara734
@ishanbanjara734 5 лет назад
I came here after the rap battle in 8 Miles😂... I am ready for the battle!!!
@Pageleplays
@Pageleplays 5 лет назад
15:15 „Integrale für Euch“ 😂 Grüße an alle Deutsche 🇩🇪🙌🏽
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
SGE 1899 Hahahah yea!!! Lars helped me to translate it. : )
@attamirza2602
@attamirza2602 4 года назад
hahahah Ehrenmann
@sinosodialajay797
@sinosodialajay797 5 лет назад
You are a great teacher
@sinosodialajay797
@sinosodialajay797 5 лет назад
Please make a collaboration video with 3blue1brown together
@adamzeggai5506
@adamzeggai5506 5 лет назад
YES
@azujy2959
@azujy2959 5 лет назад
YES
@adamzeggai5506
@adamzeggai5506 5 лет назад
@@azujy2959 gosh that would be so cool
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 5 лет назад
Correct me if I am wrong, but at 8:50, you can factor 1-x^2 and use rule of log to expand it into 2 terms?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
Oh yes. Then integration by parts after that. Both work
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 5 лет назад
@@blackpenredpen Right, unless one memorize that integral of ln(x) is xln(x)-x hehe
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
n choose k yea
@luizkemo
@luizkemo 5 лет назад
What about x^dx? Can u do ir pls?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
kemosabe What is that?
@kaandogan2470
@kaandogan2470 5 лет назад
Hey BPRP , can you make a video about Group Theory ?
@sinosodialajay797
@sinosodialajay797 5 лет назад
On 14 September it is teacher's day in India . Please make a excellent special video on the day.
@Промо-в1ю
@Промо-в1ю 5 лет назад
It will be a great pleasure to me, if you explain how to separate elementary from nonelementary ones. Does such formular exist?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Промо Risch algorithm.
@Anders3000
@Anders3000 5 лет назад
What font did you use in your document? Do you use LaTeX package or?
@centugurdag7776
@centugurdag7776 5 лет назад
Hi, cos(X square) is a function . Geogebra gives a result, if you integrate ( calculate the area) between 2 points Why we can say that this integral does not have a result.thank you For your reply
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Cent Uğurdağ Because the antiderivative of cos(x^2) is *not* the area. The antiderivative of cos(x^2) is simply another function, but the area under the curve is a number. Not remotely the same thing. Any software can calculate any area, but if you ask Geogebra to give you the antiderivative, it *cannot* and *will not* give you an answer, because there is no answer.
@centugurdag7776
@centugurdag7776 5 лет назад
İ agree but want to know why there is no antiderivative of this function
@mokouf3
@mokouf3 5 лет назад
Battle 2: Don't use partial fraction! Use ln(ab) = lna + lnb rule first, much more simple!
@mcwulf25
@mcwulf25 4 года назад
That was my thought. ln(1+x) + ln(1-x)
@dottemar6597
@dottemar6597 2 года назад
That's what I did - got two standard ones.
@krabbediem
@krabbediem Год назад
Hi BPRP, and thank you for the videos :D I guess this comment will go unnoticed, but if I never ask, I'll never know :) Why are half of these functions impossible to integrate? You just mention as a fact that it's impossible but never why. I'm not great at integration, so I don't understand _why_
@KazACWizard
@KazACWizard Год назад
integrating arcsinx/arccosx is actually doable;much easier to do than the other ones mentioned as undoable previously. its just a bit of subs and ibp and using the Si function.
@byronrobbins8834
@byronrobbins8834 Год назад
We presently scratch the integral, if it is a non-elementary integral.
@robertl.crawford4369
@robertl.crawford4369 2 года назад
Lets see those special functions!
@jayapandey2541
@jayapandey2541 5 лет назад
In India we have National Teachers' Day on 5th Sept. So, Happy Teachers' Day to BPRP and all other teachers in advance.
@Mario_Altare
@Mario_Altare 5 лет назад
I love these videos! Encore, encore :-)
@kingarth0r
@kingarth0r 5 лет назад
which integrals are intermediate and high school?
@bodor3139
@bodor3139 5 лет назад
Take my love for this channel from Bangladesh.
@jeunefofanaadamadelecolede7659
@jeunefofanaadamadelecolede7659 2 года назад
salut monsieur svp j'aimerais avoir un pdf des 100 integrale ou un pdf d'çntegrale pour licence de mathematiues svp
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 5 лет назад
11:22-11:25 the integral of the thing you are saying needs partial fractions doesn't, actually, because the answer is clearly inverse hyperbolic tangent (Argthx/Argtanhx)
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Serouj Ghazarian Well, that's not correct either, since the domain or arctangent is different from the domain of the function we started with. Strictly speaking, partial fractions are the only correct way to get the most general antiderivative, and this can be proven.
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 5 лет назад
@@angelmendez-rivera351 ArGtanH, not arctan
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 5 лет назад
@@angelmendez-rivera351 the function we started with is ln(1-x^2), which has EXACTLY the same domain as Argtanh.
@ssdd9911
@ssdd9911 5 лет назад
can show hyperbolic functions more love or not?
@reu.mathematicsacademy8566
@reu.mathematicsacademy8566 2 года назад
Brilliant sir
@rbradhill
@rbradhill 5 лет назад
one take, with some cuts. i dig it 😁
@benjaminbrady2385
@benjaminbrady2385 5 лет назад
Now solve the special function ones!
@mikedavis7636
@mikedavis7636 Год назад
Isn't it instead of using partial fractions, Can we not have xln (1-x²) -2x + tanh-¹ (x) +c ? As the answer?
@halaalp9706
@halaalp9706 2 года назад
Why IS integral of tan (sqrt x ) impossible to solve I genuinely don't understand
@borntofight5887
@borntofight5887 5 лет назад
Can you solve it Int. (x-2)/[(x-2)^2(x+3)^7]^1/3
@andrewwang164
@andrewwang164 4 года назад
integrating ln(cos x) would be an interesting one
@juanjoselezanomartinez5714
@juanjoselezanomartinez5714 5 лет назад
Good video, can you please help me with this integral .. X*Sec(X)
@not_intelligent5733
@not_intelligent5733 5 лет назад
Integration by parts X take D and I sec x Integration of secx is log|secx + tan x| and then its easy
@justabunga1
@justabunga1 5 лет назад
It's non-elementary because if you try to do IBP, you get xln(abs(sec(x)+tan(x)))-integral of ln(abs(sec(x)+tan(x)))dx. Here integral of ln(abs(sec(x)+tan(x))) is non-elementary.
@Dalton1294
@Dalton1294 3 года назад
Here's another way to write the answer to question 2, xln(1-x^2)-2x+2tanh^-1(x)+C
@falkinable
@falkinable 5 лет назад
For #9, the ln part turned out to be ln|cos(arctan(x))|, anyone else have this??
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Freddie Correct
@cyruscyros1891
@cyruscyros1891 2 года назад
On question number (8). Suppose you let integral equal to Q, then square both sides and integrate twice then take the sqr,, can it work?
@SR-kd4wi
@SR-kd4wi 5 лет назад
Can you teach us group theory?
@bryangohmppac6417
@bryangohmppac6417 5 лет назад
Sir, why don't you make a video about proving that the ramanujan formula
@not_intelligent5733
@not_intelligent5733 5 лет назад
√tanx i love this integral same as 1/(x^6+1)
@jarogniewborkowski5284
@jarogniewborkowski5284 3 года назад
Did You make already any video with non-elementary integrals like eliptic ones?
@ruchishukla8507
@ruchishukla8507 2 года назад
How did he found out that we can't do the other one?
@herlysqr1650
@herlysqr1650 5 лет назад
How we can know what is elementary and what is not?
@moon-ia2068
@moon-ia2068 2 года назад
can you know if the integration is possible or not just by looking at it ? , and if yes how do you know ?
@mathswithpana
@mathswithpana 2 года назад
hello brother. I get a different answer for number 2 intergral ln(1-x^2)dx instead of 1-x i get x-1 and 1+x is same as x+1
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661 5 лет назад
For no. 8, can't we split 1/(t^2-2) into partial fractions and use ln? It is much friendlier than coth. Also, why coth instead of tanh?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
Yes. But it would be just longer...
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661 5 лет назад
@@blackpenredpen But why coth instead of say tanh? According to you they are identical...
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Mohammad Zuhair Khan ln in this situation is not friendlier than ln, since the inside of ln would be a complicated expression. In fact, coth is expressible in terms of ln, so that makes your point moot.
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 5 лет назад
blackpenredpen Tbf, I prefer it because you can see how you get the answer, whereas the tanh is just a standard formula.
@حوداروك
@حوداروك 5 лет назад
12:30 you could just directly integrate it to 2tanh^-1(x). instead of partial fractions.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
حودا روك No, because the domain would be incorrect.
@xxgoku7774
@xxgoku7774 5 лет назад
Thumbnails are getting stronger
@Ri_F
@Ri_F 5 лет назад
the ad I had for this just said "Find your Steve" 😱😱😱
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
!!!
@EduardoViruenaSilva
@EduardoViruenaSilva 3 года назад
Second round: integral 1 / (1-x^2) = arctanh x + C
@ayushjuvekar
@ayushjuvekar 5 лет назад
Hey bprp, what font do you use in your files and thumbnails?
@vijayrathore4811
@vijayrathore4811 5 лет назад
Sir ,What is the integral of ∫(1-x^2)^n dx
@dkravitz78
@dkravitz78 2 года назад
Number 2 way easier to write ln(1-x^2)=ln(1+x)+ln(1-x)
@VaradMahashabde
@VaradMahashabde 5 лет назад
Question 3, the absolute troll
@tjli7472
@tjli7472 5 лет назад
Hey Im a Calculus amateur. Just wondering what method did bprp used at 38:50. Thx in advance!
@CruzW123
@CruzW123 Месяц назад
Hi! Four years later, are you still a calculus amateur?
@nuklearboysymbiote
@nuklearboysymbiote 5 лет назад
Number 8 was crazy
@benjaminbrady2385
@benjaminbrady2385 5 лет назад
Lol, I speak Irish but I don't know if that helps in the slightest
@anhadrajkhowa5850
@anhadrajkhowa5850 2 года назад
Yall I was just vibing to the Doraemon theme song in the beginning.
@toya618
@toya618 5 лет назад
BPRP is an asmr youtuber now? 58:30
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 5 лет назад
Yeah mate, he’s done it before.
@jmadratz
@jmadratz 2 года назад
Do you think that Isaac newton would have been able to derive all of these integral solutions back in his day
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 5 лет назад
58:05 is just insane lol
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
n choose k yea! And I didn’t do partial fractions just to save time. Lol
@indrarajgocher7465
@indrarajgocher7465 5 лет назад
Best videos sir for maths
@h.m.6228
@h.m.6228 5 лет назад
May the chenlu be with your integrals.
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466 5 лет назад
Could you solve this integral? Integral of (secx)^(3/2). I wish you did it. Thanks for giving a lot of support
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Angel Mendes This integral is non-elementary, so there is no solution anyone can give you that you would be satisfied with.
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466 5 лет назад
Thank you so much, bro
@upsocietypublic8801
@upsocietypublic8801 3 года назад
2-nd ln(1+x)(1-x) = ln(1+x)+ ln(1-x).
@Sahan_viranga_hettiarachchi
@Sahan_viranga_hettiarachchi 3 года назад
In second question you miss the number of 2 🙁🙁
@saradehimi4791
@saradehimi4791 5 лет назад
Big salutation from Algeria thank you Allah blesses you
@Paul-ob2hy
@Paul-ob2hy 5 лет назад
for number 2, isn’t the int of 2/1-x^2 just 2arccot(x)?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Yes.
@asparkdeity8717
@asparkdeity8717 3 года назад
It’s 2artanh(x), like the hyperbolic inverse tanh function
@Lamiranta
@Lamiranta 5 лет назад
bprp: *showing 8 integral battle* me: ...here we go again
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Konstantin Cherkai 10*
@wisecraftlive
@wisecraftlive 5 лет назад
m8 im in high school learning quadratics XD could u do a video where u explain calculus and why it works sorry i just kinda don't get what ur doing and just don't get calculus - but i still sub
@LeeSeungrhee
@LeeSeungrhee 4 года назад
Its all about analyzing a graph of the function. Integral is giving u a surface area under a function. Derivative is the gradient of a line tangent to the function
@wisecraftlive
@wisecraftlive 4 года назад
@@LeeSeungrhee yes i got the practical part but the theory is really confusing (actual formulas etc)
@GSHAPIROY
@GSHAPIROY 4 года назад
26:25 100 Integrals #61.
@muscleeagle_
@muscleeagle_ 7 месяцев назад
I never forget the chendu😆
@jackhounsom8867
@jackhounsom8867 5 лет назад
Isn’t it easier on the 2nd one to change it from ln(1-x^2) to ln((1-x)(1+x))=ln(1-x) + ln(1+x) and integrate like that?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Jack Hounsom Eh... it's about as easy, but it depends
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 5 лет назад
Jack Hounsom Nah, it’s worse, I did it, and trust me, it’s worse.
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 5 лет назад
How do you make your thumbnail🙏😊
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 лет назад
I use “page” on Mac, math type and pictures.
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 5 лет назад
blackpenredpen can you please give any suggestions for android phone or windows laptop as we don’t have an MacBooks or IPhones or iPads with us.
@jamez6398
@jamez6398 5 лет назад
My god, integral of x times the square root of (x^4 + x) is a really complicated integral. It would be even more complicated if one had to integrate sec^3(x) from scratch... 34:26 The integral of the square root of (x times the square root of x)?? The integral of the square root of (x + the square root of x)... 🙂 The integral of √(x + √x) Or the integral of 1/√(x + √x) Or the integral of 1/√(1 + √x)
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
James Oldfield Obviously, it is sqrt(x·sqrt(x)). Also, the integral of x·sqrt(x^4 + x) is non-elementary, and is also not the integral dealt with in the video, and the one in the video was actually very simple.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
Also, integrating sec(x)^3 from scratch is fairly easy too.
@jamez6398
@jamez6398 5 лет назад
@@angelmendez-rivera351 You must be a really smart person to find this kind of thing easy. I'm still at the level of basic integration and differentiation, power rule stuff. Like 1/cube root (9x^4) + 3x^3 + x^2. Really, really basic stuff like that...
@jamez6398
@jamez6398 5 лет назад
@@angelmendez-rivera351 I was being cheeky. I know he said √(x√x). I was thinking it was easy (relatively), and that √(x + √x) would be a harder integral to do...
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад
James Oldfield I wouldn't say I'm smart, just math savvy. Anyway, I only said it's easy because that was one of the easier integrals showed in the video. Most of the other ones were more complicated. And it doesn't have anything on the integral of sqrt[tan(x)], or even worse, the cbrt[tan(x)] integral. The integral of sqrt(x + sqrt(x)) is indeed more complicated than the integral of sqrt(x·sqrt(x)). In fact, the integral is very clever. For example, if y = x + sqrt(x), then dy = [1 + 1/{2·sqrt(x)}]dx. Thus, sqrt(x + sqrt(x)) = sqrt(x + sqrt(x))[1 + 1/{2·sqrt(x)}] - sqrt(x + sqrt(x)/{2·sqrt(x)} = sqrt(x + sqrt(x))[1 + 1/{2·sqrt(x)}] - sqrt(sqrt(x) + 1)/2. Now one can split the integral in two parts using linearity. The integral of sqrt(x + sqrt(x))[1 + 1/{2·sqrt(x)}] can be found using the very simple substitution I already mentioned, and this integral will be equal to (2/3)·sqrt(x + sqrt(x))^3 + C. All the remains is evaluating the integral of sqrt(sqrt(x) + 1). Let z = sqrt(x) + 1, so x = (z - 1)^2, and dx = 2(z - 1)dz. This leaves the integral of 2z^(3/2) - 2z^(1/2) with respect to z. This is just a very basic power rule integral, and it gives the antiderivative (4/5)z^(5/2) - (4/3)z^(3/2) + C. Substitute back to get (4/5)·sqrt(sqrt(x) + 1)^5 - (4/3)·sqrt(sqrt(x) + 1)^3 + C. Altogether, the integral of sqrt(x + sqrt(x)) is nicely equal to (2/3)·sqrt(x + sqrt(x))^3 + (2/3)·sqrt(1 + sqrt(x))^3 - (2/5)·sqrt(1 + sqrt(x))^5 + C.
@rurafs7934
@rurafs7934 5 лет назад
Wait... 1 hour 😯💚
@Proximachannel
@Proximachannel 5 лет назад
I like your microphone
@aayushpatel6554
@aayushpatel6554 3 года назад
Battle 8 is the best integral....
@wristdisabledwriter2893
@wristdisabledwriter2893 5 лет назад
Number 4 I kept screaming you forgot to switch du to d(theta)
@rurafs7934
@rurafs7934 5 лет назад
How to do that (long division)?
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