Elena Kocaqi sjell botimin "Arvanitët dhe origjina e grekëve", një studim që ndryshon historinë 

Bravooo ju pershendes.

Udhetim ne Krahinen arvanitase te Sulit... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7KkuzpGTv9Y.html

Shum me vend.. edhe mbiemrat do ishte mirè ti kthenim siq i kishim nè origjinal.

Bravo mir ke fol

Por e mira qëndron në atë që:këta e quajnë veten Shqipëtar, se mohojnë në asnjë mënyrë që janë SHQIPËTAR!. Madje edhe ata që janë përzënë dhunshëm në turqi me krenari thonë që janë Shqipëtar!.

@@AA-ov5qn ato qe jan ne turqi nuk jan rrac e paster shqipetar.flasin shqip por mendojn turqisht.

Emrat ilir Ndok Frrok Gjin Gjon🤣🤣

DEM'BAB'ADEM

Seriozisht e ke ti ore?? Ne jemi turli etnicitetesh .Bollni me keto komente se late nam analfabeta ..Rraca jone 35% Ilirë ka ,65% jane perzjerje ,bythzinj te Kaukazit ..

Me analiza adn si ka mundesi te te dale nji rajon i caktuar si peloponezi?

@PanosSpata bëje njëherë analizën e ADN ti se mos dalësh shqiptar.

Ku e bërë analizën e ADN-së?

Ku e bere kete analiz ?

@@payayabibiz9386 Ne te vertete une u cudita kure e pashe Peloponezin 100% Match . Naturisht Shqipria dhe zona Jugore dhe Malcija e Malit Zi poashtu dole 100 Match

Të gjithë kemi një merak , antishqiptarët

Udhetim ne Krahinen arvanitase te Sulit... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7KkuzpGTv9Y.html

E vertet ne Maqedoni, te gjith ata qe kan be ADN kan dal mbi 90 perqind Grek.

Mbeshtetja Elenes deri ne reze AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Elena

U zute deren e ju duket shtepia e huaj tuaja por sado te beni pese budallenj jeni e turperoni te zgjuarit tuaj

Elena

@@nbalaj1551 Hahaha po ky qe gjasme e ka emrin Sotir dhe po bene propaganda antigreke

@@user-zx6bj5jx4r Po ti ku ke msuar gjuhe shqipe? Aje shqiptar apo ke deshir me ba grek?

@@GimPukaleshi-Kurtishi Shqipen e kemi mesuar ne Policine Sekrete te shtetit dhe jemi Greek ketu e 9000 vjete para se te vinit ju nga Azerbaijani 🇦🇿 o Turkalbanians

@@user-zx6bj5jx4r Ku je ba Grek? Un edi qe nuk je grek por je ba grek për shkak se fes dhe politikes. Pse thua TurkAlbanians? Aje duke perzi me fe apo? Edhe ti je turkalbanian, haha.

ΜΟΡΟΣ ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΤΟΣ.ΘΕΣΠΡΩΤΙΑ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ.ΠΕΛΛΟΠΟΝΗΣΟΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ!!!!!

Arvanit arberesh Jane shqipetar

Sepse pa arvanitet, greket ka me u pas shum probleme. Për at agjentet greket kan vrar ki Aristidh Kola kur ato ishin tu pa qe ki asht duke ba fuqishem për me bashku për arvanitet me shqiptart. Ne kofse se na ja shpejgojm qe arvanitet jan shqiptaret, greket bajn me buzqeshur por mbrenda e tyre jan nervoz.

Po shume e vertet, fjal me vend. Ata admirojn heronjte arvanitas, kostumografin, vallet, kenget e vjetra arvanitase, kercejn kendojn e qajne me to, sepse i ndjejne, seose ai eshte tabani.Sigurisht smund te mohohet qe ka dhe komunitete te tjera, Ata kan qen atje prej shekujsh, kan ardhur aty, kan jetuar me ta, kan bere luftra me ta, per ato teritore, me pas kan bashkejetuar me ta ne cdo periull e kohe, mos harojme dhe emigrimet, pasi emigracionet e popullsis per kushte me te mira jetese, nga lutrat apo arsye te tjera, kan ndodhur qe nga periudhat e antikitetit, mesjet e sot e do te vazhdojne derisa njerezimi te ekzistoj.Po problemi nuk eshte vetem ky, por i mitit te krijuar mbi Greqin, qe per te ulur shkelqimin, lavdin e nje perandirie apo nje tjetreje lartesuan historin e vjeter qe me te drejte u ka dhen shume njerezimit, por mbi kuriz te nje populli duke e percare, krijuar urejtje e vllavrasje. Dhe tjetra synimet teritorjale qe ata kan patur gjithmon kundrejt teritoreve shqiptare, te le te dyshosh qe kjo minorance eshte vecse 20%.jo kursesi smund te jet kaq kur shovinizmi, per spastrimin e trojeve shqiptare ne Greqi nga shqiptaret e krahinave atje ka qen shume i ashper.

cili shtet? shteti antikomtar do e mbroje pasurin komtare ..e them me shum keq'ardhje mor lum'miku

sigurisht qe mamaja jote dicka ka bere me nonje greek .po ik o surat patate qe me ke bere ADN ti . me jini bee te gjithe historian . degjoni brockullan e kesaj budalles dhe kenaqeni hahaha

Po ashtu jeni

Kjo tregon asimilimin tuaj qe nuk shkruni shqip por gjuhe te huaj .a mos volle sju pelqen gjuha shqipe.a mos valle sjeni krenar qe jeni gjak shqiptar..?

Ju lutemi sepse e kemi per detyre te gjithe ne brezat shqiptare qe te ngrehemi ne ate lartesi e aty ku na takon... E nese doni te ndihmoni shqiperin ,te merrni pjese ne problemet e shumta te saja si dhe te mbeshtesni intelekrualet e kokat e zgjuara te ktij vendi shkruani shqip .sepse do e harroni gjuhen shqipe, gjuhen Hyjnore ,me themelore e antike, e me te lashten e GLOBIT....

Gjith shqiptaret flasin shum gjuh te huaja por se ofendojn gjuhen e tyre shqipe duke e zevendesuar ate me gjuhe te tjera...kte Kritik e kam per te gjithe qe bejne te njejten gje...pse shqiptaret e AMERIKES nuk jane asimiluar ..sepse cdo pervjetor kombetar e festojne ....

@@fatig.6158 E ke gabim.Duhet shkruar edhe ne gjuhe te huaj qe ta marre vesh bota se propaganda greke eshte shume e fuqishme dhe e organizuar. Pershendetje!

"FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Hellenic Greeks, the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second from the Hellenes.”The Greeks and their Heritage, A.J Toynbee, 1st Korais Professor of Greek Studies

They identify with Greek nation because they founded modern Greece. They fought for freedom and their fathers created modern Greece. Obviously they will identify with that. Ps: where were Greeks during the so-called Greek revolution??? Because all we see are Arvanite!!!

@@marcoluppo5783 I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the propganda you've been "fed" by Albanian nationalst "historians" is simply untrue, since most Greek national heroes from the Greek war of independence were non-Arvanites. The most important and influential political leaders of the revolution such as Ypsilantis, Mavrokordatos and Kapodistrias were not Arvanites. The most important warlords and warriors were also mostly non-Arvanites Greeks, such as Kolokotronis, Karaiskakis, Kanaris, Papaflessas and Makrygiannis. In fact according to various researches only the 10-20% out of the 30.000 recorded surnames that participated in the revolution, indicated BILINGUAL Arvanites. The rest 80-90% were Greek speakers from the Peloponnese, Central Greece, the Aegean islands, Smyrni Khalkidhiki/South Macedonia and Crete, Greek volunteers from the British occupied Ionian islands, and around a thousand Philhellenes from the rest of Europe. NONE OF THE LEADERS THAT ORGANIZED THE GREEK REVOLUTION WERE ARVANITES AND MOST WARLORDS AND WARRIORS THAT FOUGHT WERE ALSO NOT ARVANITES. NOT THAT IT WOULD MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF WHAT YOU WROTE WAS TRUE, SINCE THE ARVANITES SELF-IDENTIFIED AS GREEKS, GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR GREECE AND HATED MUSLIM ALBANIANS. BUT IT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE...

@@marcoluppo5783 So why did they not call the state Albania or Arvania or Sqiperia gineus"? They were... mazokists of some sort? lol

@@marcoluppo5783 "Their contribution in that conflict, although less well known, can be compared to those of the Souliotes on land and the Hydriotes and Spetsiotes at sea. These people, like the Cheimarriotes, were known to be Albanian-speaking or BILINGUAL, yet they identified themselves wholly with the GREEK national cause." Banac, Ivo; Ackerman, John G.; Szporluk, Roman; Vucinich, Wayne S. (1981). Nation and ideology: essays in honor of Wayne S. Vucinich. East European Monographs. p. 46 "The Arvanites were considered equally Greek with the Cretans, the Maniots and the Phanariotes, especially if they participated in the Revolution from the right side. The Souliotes, who lived quite isolated, were considered also from the beginning not just simply Greeks, but exemplary Greeks." Aristides Hatzis, "The Noblest Cause: The 1821 Greek War of Independence", p.p. 108

@@vangelisskia214 What are you trying to say? Of course they identified with the " Greek" cause. The state of Albania didn't exist, Albanians were split in many religions and who do you think these Arvanites would identify with? Naturally with the new state which was against Turkey. They were liders of this state, why would they be against it? Ethnicity wasn't a big thing those times and it was easy for them to identify with this new state which was purely a religious Christian state created as opposed to Muslim Turkey. But, the fact you can't change in anyway, is that Arvanites are Albanians. Forget the crap " that the Arvanites were Greeks but they could speak Albanian as well as they learnt it through the Albanians". Only the Greeks believe this stupidity and no schoolchild anywhere in the world would believe that. Modern Greek language or Koine was the international language of Roman Eastern Empire or the Bizantium, just like English today. The fact that we are talking in English doesn't mean that I'm English. So, whoever spoke " Greek" didn't mean they were Greek. On the contrary, whoever spoke Albanian it means that was their mother's tongue. Albanian language was the the only one forbidden to be written and spoken by the Ottomans, Serbian and Greek Churches. There were not even schools in Albanians. Albanian was not an International language, so nobody needed to learn the language , so whoever spoke Albanian was purely Albanian native, learning the language from their mother's and this is OUT OF DISCUSSION... While the "Greek" ethnicity is much in debate, there wouldn't be a discussion at all about the Albanian ethnicity. According to one French General who knew the Balkans well, he wrote" Albanians are the biggest nation in Balkan. If these people could join each other's they would have so much power. " "Perca e sundo" in Albanian or in English " Split and Rule" is an expression which unfortunately fits the Albanians very well. Religion and independent, individualistic nature of the Albanians have been always the biggest curse for the Albanian nation. Albanians as individuals shine a lot, they are strong, tough and courageous in front of any difficult situation. The problem is - Albanians don't like to be ruled by anyone, literally ANYONE....... They were always free and tribal people with so much emphasis to their own families. The concept of the state or the nation didnt exist at all to them. No wonder Albanians never had Kings or Dynasties... Only Scanderbeg managed to join the Albanians together in the war against the Ottomans and they were invincible . As soon as he died, no other charismatic lider would replace him and Ottomans finally managed to invade them. Still, Albania was never ruled by Turks themselves, there were always Albanians warlords "ruling" them on the behalf of Ottoman Empire. Ottomans found it unabled to rule the " disobedient Albanians " so they learnt that they were better governed if they were ruled by their compatriots and let them in semi independent state to govern themselves. Highlander Albanians were governed by nobody other than themselves. Albania is the only country under Ottoman Empire without a Turkish minority. Albanians are invincible when they decide to join each other's. History has proven it many times. They are born fighters... As Albanians respond to the Serbs who claim that Serbia is a big state "we may have a small state but we are a massive nation". If you check Serbian, Montenegrin surnames they are all Albanians with an added " vic". That shows how many fake states are created in Balkans with Albanian population( including Greece)...

Chipras is of course Albanian. Can’t you see that or you don’t want to see it?