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Eliminate 3D Printer Vibrations With This One Simple Trick! 

Nathan Builds Robots
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@thebandkid8066
@thebandkid8066 День назад
Dude i was just there earlier. You have no clue how happy i am to see you shouting us out like that. Thank you so much.
@ThisisDD
@ThisisDD День назад
Yeah that's pretty cool. Nothing near here like that
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell День назад
I'm in Lexington. Day job is in Nicholasville. Next time you're in town look me up! Lockmasters Inc.
@thebandkid8066
@thebandkid8066 23 часа назад
@@helixxharpell unfortunately I'm rarely in Lexington/ Nicholasville
@chemicalwaffle9220
@chemicalwaffle9220 День назад
This place is right next to my house and I had no clue it existed. I have to check it out. Thanks and great video!
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell День назад
Those hybrid stepper motors can generate a fair about of torque! I used a hybrid linear/ stepper motor to push a 22lb load 600k times. So Nathan has it right imo!! You go boy! Edit: I live in Lexington, about 70 miles from Hackerspace & this is the first I've heard about it! Thinking about making the drive now! 😃👍🏻
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
It's great if you have a part you need to have machined, or wanted to get something laser cut on a large machine. The kind of stuff you don't have laying around the house.
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell День назад
​@NathanBuildsRobots Next time you're in Lexington, Dinner and Bourbon tour is on me!
@aberodriguez4149
@aberodriguez4149 День назад
WOW a real toy making shop !!! Thanks for sharing. 😀
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
I'm pretty sure santa works there
@TheOneAndOnlySatan
@TheOneAndOnlySatan День назад
Now this is some quality content Nathan ❤
@RitzScythe
@RitzScythe 20 часов назад
You could tell me this guy was almost any age and id believe you. quite the enigma.
@TNX255
@TNX255 19 часов назад
Indeed, he's 68.
@user-lx9jm1wo3h
@user-lx9jm1wo3h День назад
Have you thought about replacing each print head axis with 4 articulating arm style axis? That way each print head can reach the very center of the bed, and they can fold out of the way individually when they are not in use. It would basically be 4 SCARA arms with your rotating bed.
@sleepib
@sleepib 19 часов назад
Are you volunteering to write the slicer and firmware for that?
@NavySturmGewehr
@NavySturmGewehr День назад
Brillant Sir! I've been thinking about that but all my ideas were grossly over complicated. Just brilliant!
@Vez3D
@Vez3D 18 часов назад
Nice video man. I noticed an improvement in image quality/camera. Did you get new gear? 😊
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 11 часов назад
I think I switched to vivid color profile instead of s-cinetone. I don’t color grade so it’s probably better this way Also the bigger space allows for some background separation and blurry background vs my smaller space
@Tedlasman
@Tedlasman День назад
You still need to accelerate the whole mass
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
Just add more power
@brandonhicks7549
@brandonhicks7549 День назад
Most 3D printers (speed boat oriented ones excluded) are vibration limited. It’s why there is so an obsession with input shaping.
@TNX255
@TNX255 19 часов назад
From the very beginning I kept thinking "But what about the changing weight of the print & bed as the print goes along" but you thought of that. Nice :)
@diegoandresbarriagarcia2334
@diegoandresbarriagarcia2334 10 часов назад
The best trust me bro moment that I've ever experienced
@brandonhicks7549
@brandonhicks7549 День назад
My favorite part was that “floating couch” 😂
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
I made a joke cut away from the X1C. It's an expensive machine, so I probably wouldnt buy one, but it's available to use at the hackerspace so it's a great way to get access to one without having to purchase it yourself
@beauregardslim1914
@beauregardslim1914 День назад
Very cool! I was initially very excited about your idea for a simultaneous multi-head polar printer, but when I started digging into it I found all the realities of polar motion systems. These motors aren't cheap, but if they can solve the steps vs circumference problem, I think it is definitely worth exploring.
@advanced3dprinting
@advanced3dprinting 12 часов назад
We are lowering the price a little more every time we get more made . We started at 300 and now down to 225
@fabriciodefigueiredo3426
@fabriciodefigueiredo3426 День назад
I like the hair.
@dnomyarg32
@dnomyarg32 19 часов назад
Great project! Can you say more about the gearbox you are using?
@JaimeWyant
@JaimeWyant День назад
Wow $50 a month is a deal for access to all of those machines.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
That's what I'm thinking, if you have a big project you can go fire up a half dozen prints and weld some things or watch youtube videos. Then just have like 1 printer at home.
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. 14 часов назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots instead of the five FDM and two resin printers I have at home, plus an Elegoo laser (still in the box)?
@user-hi8cf7rz9u
@user-hi8cf7rz9u 2 часа назад
Great work man. Love it
@hunt0583
@hunt0583 День назад
A smaller version for nema 17 stepper motors would be cool.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
They actually make NEMA 17 as the main version of this product, I just need the extra torque of a larger motor so I'm using a 23. www.advanced3dprinters.com/products/copy-of-a3dp-closed-loop-step-servo-drives-n17
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 23 часа назад
They have that, it's actually the more common variant of the servos, but I needed the big beefy torque of a NEMA23 for this project
@reyalPRON
@reyalPRON 12 часов назад
mmmm... this! New respect gained sir. u earned a sub. +2 for the workspace clutter ;) may one ask why you cut the scene at the bambu printer? do i sense a beef with them perhaps
@olafmarzocchi6194
@olafmarzocchi6194 16 часов назад
A great video would be about building a small coreXY setup with jus a large inertial mass as print head to be placed between a printer and its table, which uses an accelerometer with a digital closed loop so that you can move the inertial mass to compensate (after low pass filter) for the accelerations generated by the printer print head motion. It should almost completely remove vibrations. Surely better than the "HULA" printer feet
@rianre
@rianre День назад
"I've thought of everything" 💪
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
Famous last words :P
@ddegn
@ddegn 5 часов назад
Can your flywheel calculation software account for the moment of inertia? If you already have the data concerning the mass being added, I'd think it wouldn't be too hard to add the radius to which the mass is being added. Adding must mass won't mean a lot without knowing how it effects the moment of inertial of the item. Thanks for sharing what you're working on. I have my doubts on how it will work but I look forward to you proving my doubts are unfounded.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 22 минуты назад
Yes, just multiply the deposited mass by the distance from the center of rotation. Mass alone is meaningless, the only thing that matters is the 2nd moment of inertia measured about the axis passing through the center of the bed.
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. 14 часов назад
Is that maker-space in Louisville Kentucky? I'm about 90 minutes from there.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 11 часов назад
Yes, there are some other spaces to make stuff around here too, including some with industrial waterjetting
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell День назад
Say.. when are you doing the unboxing video for the Qidi X-Plus4?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
Qidi doesn't like me since I pooped on the X-Max 3
@helixxharpell
@helixxharpell 11 часов назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rawjaat
@rawjaat День назад
Louisville!
@thebandkid8066
@thebandkid8066 День назад
I was gonna comment about exactly where he's at bc I was just there earlier today, but I don't wanna dox my man EDIT: didn't realize he was gonna shout us out.
@rikogarza1729
@rikogarza1729 День назад
can you put it on an open source printer like a k1max or voron? oh and show it to us, id be interested in this product if i could see it working on a consumer grade printer vs, the 4 extruder madness in the video.
@advanced3dprinting
@advanced3dprinting 12 часов назад
They are plug and play in any marlin,klipper or rrf printer that has stepper sockets or lcd output or any free pins that can be gpio
@3d1e00
@3d1e00 10 часов назад
I don't really understand the concept. I thought you talked about weight as being an issue but then you want to add a flywheel? Can't you just remove the speed of the inertia change with input shaping like code? Do you really need this benefit of a sudden stop? Is the reduction of the inertial mass by spreading it over time not acceptable? Is the force too large?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots 6 часов назад
There are two issues with added mass. 1) it requires more torque to move. This can be addressed by making the plate thinner, using materials with a better strength to weight ratio, or adding a larger motor. The other issue is that rapid acceleration back and forth can set up resonance that can cause large structures to fail. The important equation is the definition of resonant frequency. (K/m)^0.5 Or the square root of stiffness over mass. Larger structures, assuming you use the same beams, like 40/20 aluminum extrusion, are both less stiff and more massive, so both factors are causing the resonant frequency to go down. Ideally you want the resonant frequency to be 2x higher than any excitation frequency. If you look at a printer filling out a rasterization pattern, the excitation frequency would be the inverse of the time in seconds between it changing directions. Usually this is around 10 hz on higher speed printers. Even with a very small/light load, resonance can cause huge problems for large structures.
@AureliauGTaskas
@AureliauGTaskas День назад
Hey Nathan do U own a Prusa?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
Yes, I have an MK4 with MMU
@NWalker-zx6xu
@NWalker-zx6xu День назад
The reaction force is still there its just on the gears and not your hand.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots День назад
Yes but this closes the circuit on reaction forces such that nothing leaves the motor and gearbox housing
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 22 часа назад
The motor is bolted to the frame so the frame would have less vibration.
@NWalker-zx6xu
@NWalker-zx6xu 13 часов назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots its whats the printer needs and its a great idea. Good job.
@Endoru
@Endoru День назад
🫡
@olafmarzocchi6194
@olafmarzocchi6194 16 часов назад
This is a whole new level of content compared to (still good and honest) printer/mods reviews. But it will lower views.
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