Totally agree with you, but for some sick reason, FDEV wants players to grind their mind away, and as shown at countless occasions in the past, they will not let go of this. The one grind reduction ever released - the engineering rebalance when they got rid of the wheel of fortune mechanic - was completely disregarded when they released engineering grind 2.0 with Odyssey, reintroducing all the brain-numbing repeated cycles over again that they got rid before. So, I don't see any scrapping features coming to the game any time soon. Somebody in there just enjoys us guys running in circles ad nauseam.
I don't understand? You can store all of your modules directly on the carrier. Unless I'm misunderstanding, there's no need for "storage ships" to store modules on.
@@gwevans358 there's a 200 global limit. it's not per station/carrier. kinda shitty. you can have infinite ships stored in different stations, but not modules...
Agreed!! I still only play on console/Legacy version, but I, like you, always keep engineered modules just in case I MIGHT use them later. After years of play, I have sold ships and power play modules that I found out later, I didn't much care for or simply just don't use that often. So, I have quite a few engineered modules taking up space in my fleet carrier. I realize nothing will likely change in Legacy, but I hope the live version will get this mechanic soon.
Completely agree. The ability to recycle any tech for some of the mats back would be great. More than 200 units of storage at stations would be nice too. I still miss that in Elite 2 and Elite 3 (Frontier First Encounters) you could buy a Used Spaceship for reduced cost (but work needed on them).
Yeah, I proposed a New Engineer called the "Recycler" who would do a similar thing. Depending on your level of unlock you could get up to 50% of your materials back. I would also increase the amount of materials dropped (from HSS etc) from 3 to 10. And increase the storage for each materail to 1000.
Says you, but for example they started working on Powerplay v2.0 before the Thargoid war had started (as former senior game dev, Derrin said 2 weeks ago on Lave Radio). They simply don't do development diaries and don't publicise the majority of the pipeline (concept, preproduction, production). You are stating that what you don't see doesn't exist - I am saying 10 years of development contradicts you.
As soon as SCO outperformed all of my G5 FSD's I wanted to scrap them and recover some mats. The subsurface and mining charge minigame would work easily for determining the amount recovered. As a side note: I replaced the C2 and C3 FSD's with class D SCO - These outperform the old class A, but allows a substantial speed buff due, to weight savings.
Everyone says that the Pre Engineered FSDs remain better. I have replaced drives on a Phantom, Krait Mk II and a Python all with Pre Engineered FSDs with Mass Manager with SCO Drives fully engineered Increase Range, Mass Manager. In every instance, the SCO has a slightly higher jump range than the Pre Engineered in range. From a CG, I have other size Pre Engineered FSDs and did the same for the drive on an Asp Scout with the same result. The SCO had a higher jump range. Asp Scout? That flip around makes it the best ship in the game for High Grade Emissions where as the much lauded Cobra Mk III is master of not a single thing.
I plan to do a detailed review of the SCO drives now that all module ratings and engineering are available. This will include a detailed breakdown of stats and tradeoffs for the range of options.
I don't have a handle on why yet, but the biggest gain that I had was on a Courier. It got a 4.5ly bump. Perhaps it's because it's a small drive with Deep Charge. The smallest gain I got was on a DBX with Pre-Engineered -> SCO G5 MM. That was sub 1ly.
Ya I keep posting comments that no, sco is king of all drives. Clearly people making videos didn’t actually fully engineer any to max. SCO is 9% more range than full engineered and .9% more than dual pre engineered.
I've picked and outfitted 2 5a sco's, tricked them out for titan wet work. I also planned which ships can use them best afterwards to keep from buying and engineering one for each ship. Scrapping for those engineering materials would be amazing.
I feel like this request might end up being fairly niche, in terms total playerbase. I've found the SCO drives interesting, and they could be helpful for completionist explorers, as you say. But, for me, I'll take the pre-engineered drives for most applications. I might replace two or three drives for the SCO on dedicated exploration ships, but definitely not my entire fleet. That doesn't invalidate your point, though. Scrapping is a normalized part of crafting systems and would be an absolutely welcome mechanic in ED.
That would be very fitting for the direction Fdev started taking, less time wasting - more gameplay. As long as it doesn't involve arx or real money...
With the new mat drop rate buff, I doubt we’ll see a scrapping system for the time being. I’m hanging on to at least some of my old drives. Achilles seems fishy to me.
Though not every one know's or does, an updated modual, say from an "E" to an "A", can be stripped prior to the selling of the ship it's in. But for some reason, an engineer can modify an modual using the various and vastly numerious material's one is mandated to bring with them, they are unable to unmodify a modual and return one let alone more of the material's to the pilot. More than half of my available storage contain's full engineered in various way's modual's. Most of which, when there is a new mod such as the FSD SCO. Will never ever be of any usefullness ever again. And as you stated, simply tossing them out for the same price using credit's I bought them for, with out any return on the investment of hundred's of hour's accumulating the various mandated material's. Take's one with a considerably higher fortitude than I, to do. One can only assume that we now know exactly how NPC's have recently all become fully engineered. Selling a fully upgraded, fully engineered FSD, without returning one let alone more of the material's. Make's them available for NPC's to utilize without investing a nano second of time, effort. But then this is Davids game, and based on his knowledge of physic's, we are all mandated to only utilize his knowledge, form, of physic's and or how his effect the state of economy. Not wanting to but still trying to avoid politic's, it's impossible to distinguish President Biden past few year's to that of Davids past few year's. The economic's of the U.S.A. isn'ta to much different than the ecomomy envolving ED.
Recovery of Material: The Grind is the Game. The whole point is to increase game play time by us all engineering SCO FSDs. Why on earth would they make that easier? By the way, show some data on SCOs not quite managing to be as good as Pre Engineered. Everyone is saying that in RU-vid videos. I have replaced a number of them and in outfitting gone to replace the SCO with my old FSD and the stats are the same or worse for the Pre Engineered FSD in every instance so far.
A detailed review of SCO drives is on the way, now that we have the full range of classes and grades. I'm prepared to correct any mistakes in this video when I do that one, I'm still going over all the engineering and module data. It appears that SCO drives get worse jump range than pre-engineered ones, but not much. Whether SCO drives are better ultimately comes down to whether you find advantage in SCO capabilities. I think that most people will trade a few light years of jump range for faster in system travel. I may be wrong, but I do stand by that position.
So I’ve been taking a break from the game and thought the SCO drives were just C rated. You’re telling me they now have higher jump ranges, all classes, and all sizes? I don’t think I’m coming back to the game. Frontier is literally just trying to rope people into spending countess hours into grinding and re-engineering all their drives. That’s just disgusting. It could have been interesting if they made trade offs with the SCO drive, but there practically none. The game needs an expansion of gameplay mechanics and the removal of some gameplay blocks (I.e. I can’t enter the gunner station on my own ship in single or multi crew). This is the exact opposite.
Yes,yes finally the elephant in the room. Fdev know this but they as usual WANT MORE TIME SINK. It like being rank elite or fully modified 5 modules, mean nothing. Frontier doesn’t realize this show how lazy they’re to create meaningful and new gameplay, and eventually loses players.
It wouldn't be so bad if you could buy and sell materials, but FDev has basically given everyone who now has to basically replace old mods and having to replace everything a massive punch in the gut. Had the SCO drive been an experimental effect, this probably wouldn't be an issue. Not to mention just how bad the item management system this game is.
@@MrSmartman23 Not wasted effort. They are still there. We just have something better now. Imagine spending lots of time and money putting together a gaming PC, but still have to replace it when it becomes obsolete several years later.
