Elizabeth Holmes Defends Theranos Amid Media Scrutiny At Fortune's Global Forum | Fortune 

*Takes a freshman level course in chemical engineering and drops out* “I’m an engineer”

If you can’t convince them, confuse them.

She is a perfect example of someone who can talk a lot without saying a damn thing

Doctors were literally saying that her claims were scientifically impossible because you couldn’t run hundreds of tests on a single drop of blood, yet companies were promoting her and publications were putting her on their covers. It’s pretty indicative of our anti-science issue, as well as believing what you want to hear over the facts.

How do people say, she is charismatic? She seems so creepy to me...

Her way of speaking is like trying desperately to reach the page limit on an essay

At 1:16 she says, “I’m an engineer” NO she is NOT. All she has is a high school diploma. It is difficult to become a real engineer. We go to college and do not drop out and then we work with integrity to make our profession a respectable one and earn our wages with truthfulness while solving problems to try and make the world a better place.

It is stunning to me that this charade went as far as it did. It goes beyond the deception of Holmes and Bulwani. It’s a case study in manipulation, greed, pride, and self-delusion in a lot of people.

Listen - she had a lot on her plate She had to figure out not only how to make all of Theranos’ claims true, she also had to remember to speak in a low voice All day long It’s not easy being that crazy

I am proud that he still can remember his original question after all that long distracting meaningless answer. That is hardest thing to do when you talk to paychopath liers

What's mindblowing is that her company had 700 employees at one point? WTF were they all doing when she was masterminding this huge scam?!

The dramatic way she removed the nanotener from her pocket had me dying🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀

Teacher: "Elizabeth, what's the sum of 2 + 2?" Elizabeth : "What we are trying to do is reach a conclusion that can be put out into the public domain that gives the individual the right to chose the correct answer. I think that our proposed agenda incorporates a multitude of complex features that will create a positive experience for each user, that will undoubtedly leave them with the confidence that they will be able to make an informed choice."

Interviewer: "Elizabeth, do you enjoy chewing gum?" Elizabeth: "Gum a is a soft, cohesive substance designed in order to be chewed without being swallowed. Modern chewing gum is composed of gum base, sweeteners, softeners/plasticizers, flavors, colors, and, typically, a hard or powdered polyol coating. Its texture is reminiscent of rubber because of the physical-chemical properties of its polymer, plasticizer, and resin components, which contribute to its elastic-plastic, sticky, chewy characteristics."

She said “I’m an engineer” - no she’s not - she only attended 1 semester of college. She’s nothing

She has carefully learnt a set of general answers that she applies to any possible question.

Her B.S. response method: Q. "Are you hungry?" A. " some of the brightest minds and phenomenal people are not hungry because they've looked towards food ."

She couldn't fool a middle school chemistry teacher but she raised 9 billion.. 😂😂

Interviewer: How are you? Elizabeth: Thank you for this question and sometimes as a leader I think about the job we are doing at Thernos to establish that our devices are FDA efficient from a comprehensive framework viewpoint. We made this possible through redefining & replacing it with cutting edge, proven and complete proprietary solutions. Let's talk about why this is so important and how our story is such a compelling organization that patients, investors and leading medical professionals standby. Together, we are revolutionary in our approach, committed to appropriately levels of confidence in our product, data and strategy. I'm proud to standby and help lead an organization focused on low care, availability and actionable insights that align to our mission. We are leading the charge by being proactive and transparent that starts from our board down to the strategic minds that help us transform the space.

Lol she was imagining herself as Steve Jobs when she pulled the iPod nanotainer out of her pocket 😂

She is like a politician: she never answers the questions asked. It's like she wasn't even listening.

She dropout of college after 2nd semester and she called herself an Engineer...oof

She deserves an Oscar for her acting. Look how many she fooled with her b.s. This guy just lets her roll over him. Astounding nobody seemed to see through it at the time.

It’s crazy how she talks and talks and talks around questions and never truly answers the questions asked of her. She is truly and pathological liar

In the TedTalk, it's almost embarrassing how much she tries to act like Steve Jobs. It's like a young teenager in their room emulating their idol.

There is something unreal and unnatural about her, it's like watching a very humanlike looking robot try to act like a human, this is the vibe I get.

The "I'm an engineer' part always cracks me up.

i cant get enough of this modern day "catch me if you can" i cant help but be impressed that she was able to create an entire billion dollar company by scamming billionaires. its hilarious

The fake deep voice makes her sound like a teenager trying to convince the bouncer they're definitely old enough to get in

She lied within two minutes by saying “I’m an engineer.” As everybody knows she dropped out of Stanford after less than a year.

First they say you’re crazy, then they try to fight you, then you realise you are crazy.

Fun fact. Elizabeths proprietary technology was actually just an easy bake oven. It was named “Edison” as an homage to the light bulb based cooking system.

The gestures, the word salad, the grandiosity and the unabashed bullshit are simply breathtaking.

"I'm an enginee..." No, she is NOT an engineer.

"I'm an ENGINEER." On what planet is she suddenly an engineer? She told this Lie in the first 5 minutes and he didn't call her on it.

"You put blood in here and the 100 tests comes out here. That's how it works. No more questions".

She’s going to fry her vocal cords with that fake baritone.

What I take away from all of this is....Dont start a business based on science if youre not a scientist.

She doesn’t even know that “data” is the plural of “datum.” It’s not “that data,” it’s “THOSE data.”

11 years in jail is a extremely low penalty for her. Thats my opinion as an MD

She said here she is an engineer.....he should have stopped her right there and reminded her she dropped out if school within first one or two semesters.

I so want the interviewer to say to Holmes: "You didn't answer my question!!"

People would rather call her "good looking and extremely charismatic" than admit they made a stupid terrible investment because they never imagined somone would be so misleading and manage to defraud them. She is not even mildly good looking or charismatic. She is stereotypical cringe.

Her sentences take more detours than a freeway under construction

I'm a doctor not because I went to Med school but because I read WebMD when I'm feeling sick

"I'm definitely not a PR person." Of all the BS she spouts, that is the one thing she truly is.

I always wonder whether pathological liars like her believe what they’re saying, or know they are lying. Or maybe a little of both

She's good at not saying anything while talking non stop

Her dishonesty is theatrical. Sociopath.

Pretty soon I’m gonna interview her on how to maintain a fake voice for so long.

"A) the government, FDA, is making us do one test at a time for approval, but we could do more B) the magazines wrote incorrect facts about us to say we could do 200 tests on one pin prick. But we can do 200.". So, were the magazines wrong or not? Who told them you could do 200? YOU DID. Lies and self-contradictions all to see if obfuscation can keep the public still impressed with you.

Watching the Hulu series really brings it back to this full circle. Just mind blowing.

She can speak volumes without actually saying anything. She should have gone into politics and perhaps be a President.

She speaks long, eloquent yet empty sentences.

Capitalism allows this type of crime and criminal to become the richest person in the world.

When she is really nervous about answering a question and really squirming she forms an invisible shape in her hands and moves it back and forth so that the interviewer will focus on what's "in her hands" and not what she is saying.....EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

I love how when she says ' I am not a PR person ' he theatrically registers amazed disbelief. It's a hilarious moment. PR person is all she is.

"I'm an Engineer".....Good For You,I'm An Astronaut,It's Awesome!!

The real problem here, the REAL problem, is not in any of the BS being spouted by Holmes. No, the real problem is summed up in the opening 30 seconds from what Alan Murray said. He, and people like him, just couldn't resist the opportunity to ride the wave of "the next big thing," without having the slightest clue about the waters they were wading into. Fortune Magazine featured her on their cover, which only furthered her reach and influence. So many supposed "smart" and rich people being taken for a ride by Holmes will be the lasting legacy of this absurd saga.

I'm sorry. I really am. *This is NOT a great communicator.* This is a master bull*hit artist. Talking a mile a minute without saying anything.

While this whole story is semi entertaining, scandalous, and definitely grabs people’s attention because it’s so wild... don’t forget that there were actual patients that got screwed over by Theranos. I don’t know how she can live with herself claiming that she’s “helping people and empowering people to have access to healthcare”. It’s absolutely horrible what she did.

The lying comes so easily to her. Clearly sociopathic.

"I'm an engineer". No. You're a chemical engineer undergraduate drop out. Big difference.

Just the fact that she got hundreds of millions out of Murdock and DeVos makes hers a success story

she's hurting patients, scamming people and wasting everyone's time

Notice how she keeps reverting back to the talking point about rights and access to data. Ok, but does your device work?

Ugh she makes me cringe

“Nanotainer” In retrospect, it’s so obvious She can’t even name a mentor.

In retrospect, I'm either impressed by how she managed to pull this much off or by how many rich people can be fooled this easily.

" I am an Engineer " - Starts with a lie to begin with.

"I'm an engineer" says Elizabeth Holmes who dopped out of engineering school after her freshman year.

They don’t make crazy like that anymore, wow she is crazy

Shes trying so hard to be a Jobs or Bezos or Zuckerberg or a mix of them all.

She is so diabolically fascinating. I get the same feeling of awe watching her interviews as I do binge-watching Forensic Files.

Her saying ‘I’m an engineer…”…huge red flag! No, Elizabeth, you are not.

I never understood the end game. There was zero chance that this wouldn't end badly because the science wouldn't allow it.

"I'm an engineer." What degree? What certifications?

Omg she talks in circle and never answers the questions...

Rehearsed talking points and a bunch of meaningless jargon- all delivered in a fake voice

I am an engineer? She was a high school graduate.

Her voice doesn't sound like it is naturally that deep. She reminds me of insecure young men who deliberately lower their voices. No matter. She has done a lot for women's equality in the last year. Women too can be lying con artists in big business.

The frustrating part in this video is not Elizabeth, it's Fortune magazine. They are still giving her a platform to spread her lies despite everything that came out by then.

I did not understand a single word that she said.

What is with the non-stop head nodding while the guy is asking questions? She is clearly acting and not being authentic. A true sociopath!

Copy pasting a reply from a Reddit User "/u/meeblek" about Theranos. Do read it. Preface: I am a med tech and have managed a lab. This looks like bullshit. She's invented a marketing campaign for her lab. Her 'nano-tube' is the exact same thing that already exists, called a 'microtainer' made by BD. These get used in hospitals right now every day. Finger pricks also get done daily, usually on kids. Finger pricks are undesirable samples for the following reasons: 1) Manual manipulation ('milking') the blood out of the finger results in higher chances of hemolysis - which can render the results of many tests invalid. 2) Finger pricks have a higher volume of interstitial fluid in the sample, possibly skewing the results 3) Finger pricks take longer 4) Finger pricks actually hurt more than a needle 5) Finger pricks tend to clot in the tube, a big no-no for CBCs. Modern chemistry and hematology analyzers only use microlitre amounts of serum per test. Every day labs do full chemistry panels on microtainers of blood - so I'm not sure why her system is better. Now cost. I'm sure that in the US testing costs a lot more than in Canada (dat profit) but in my lab the cost of reagents to do a standard panel (electolytes (Na, K, Cl), glucose, kidney function (BUN, Creatinine), liver function (ALP, AST, ALT, Total Bilirubin), automated CBC) would be on the order of $4-6 (and this is in a fairly low volume lab). If a stat sample is delivered to me I can have results back in 15-20 minutes on any modern chemistry analyzer for the above mentioned tests. The reasons we take tubes with 'large' amounts of blood (I put 'large' in quotes because each tube holds about a teaspoon of blood, I could literally take 100s of them out before you'd feel the effects of blood loss) are: 1) It's a better sample - less recollections 2) We have extra in case there is a problem in analysis - less recollections 3) The Dr. can add on more tests if something comes back weird - less recollections 4) The Dr. can order immunoassays or esoteric testing that requires more volume - less recollections Are you seeing a pattern here? The lab does NOT want to be recollecting. It's a waste of your time and a waste of our time. Why not take extra that you're not going to miss in the first place instead of having to come back a second time? Unless she has some breakthrough testing methodologies that require significantly less blood than is currently used. And I don't think some Stanford dropout working in her garage is better able to develop these tests than multibillion dollar diagnostics companies. Trust me, if some company came along with an analyzer that required 10x less sample with no downsides, they would win the entire market and sell billions of dollars of reagents. Of course they'd be doing it if they could. She goes on about 'automated analysis' in her interview a bit, but labs are already HIGHLY automated. The trouble comes from shitty collections (fingerpricks) and shitty delivery times. She mentioned the problems of people not coming to get their bloodwork done because scared of needles - this is a problem, but its a pre-analytic problem that is not going to be solved with a new micro sampling technique. Bullshit.

I wanted someone to ask her: "You have no medical background. No one on your board has a medical background. So who's solving the ideas?"

“This is what happens when you try to change the world” Elizabeth Holmes.

Shes saying nothing, all those words are saying nothing.

It's extremely simple. Her claims are not only false, but blatantly so, fraudulent so. Her strength is not in development or research, but the ability to pathologically lie and cover-up fraud.

At about 3:48-3:52, a hint of her real voice slips when she says "a tiny sample using proprietary Theranos technology..." Probably because she was having to focus really hard on her spin.

She's an engineer. I took a first aid course and now I get to call myself a surgeon.

Her going in and out of the voice is funny while watching this lolol it’s like a game 😂

1:13 Elizabeth: “I’m an engineer.” Reality: “I’m a 1st year college dropout.”

Every time she is asked a question she has a magical way to start answering with a proposed sophisticated vocabulary of taking about absolute NOTHING! Im sure she has developed it by experience

Forbes and Fortune are operated by fools.

There was a speech in the Eddie Murphy movie The Distinguished Gentleman after he got elected. “We campaigned on the issue, this issue is change, change for the future, if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen, and in conclusion read my lips” This is what she sounds like. A bunch of half sentences that say nothing.

False she is not an engineer .. She didn't graduate.. she is a social Engineer though ..meaning a con artist

Just reading "Bad blood" - it's incredible, superb writing. Is it just me or did she start this interview with a deeper voice and gets higher when sidetracked by tough talk?

Great questions were asked. EH.’s Voice changed to higher pitch when she was not prepared. According to John Carryrou’s sharing, he was intimidated to have his article killed. EH was busy suing the whistleblowers as she was busy filling the holes that were showing up.

Who else is back here after her sentencing