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Elizabeth That Was Part 4: Salisbury North (Elizabeth's "Poor Relation") 

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Salisbury North is a suburb in the City of Salisbury, part of the greater Adelaide conurbation in South Australia. It was built by the South Australian Housing Trust on a greenfield site in the early 1950s, the same decade work began on Elizabeth, mainly to house employees of the nearby Long Range Weapons Establishment, later the Weapons Research Establishment (or WRE). In 1947 the Commonwealth Government established the Long Range Weapons Establishment (LRWE) in partnership with the United Kingdom Government as a facility for research and development of rocket-propelled weapons. The support base for the rocket range at Woomera was at Penfield, on the northern side of the Adelaide-Port Augusta railway line, where a large munitions manufacturing complex had been built in 1941, 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) from the small rural centre of Salisbury. As with the munitions complex at the beginning of the war, in 1949 the location that was to become known as Salisbury North, immediately to its south, was no more than wheat paddocks on a flat alluvial plain. Through the paddocks ran Waterloo Corner Road, the main road leading north-west from Salisbury to Port Wakefield. The whole area was lightly populated, having a population of only 4,159 within the boundaries of the 200 square kilometres (77 sq mi) Salisbury District Council, including Salisbury itself. Many have argued, with some justification, that many of the mistakes made in the development of Salisbury North benefitted the new township of Elizabeth, as the South Australian Housing Trust made a concerted effort to avoid those mistakes when drawing up the new town's plans. This video examines how the mistakes made at Salisbury North, Elizabeth's "poor relation," benefitted the new town and its townspeople. Though as time would prove, Elizabeth itself would suffer many flaws in its planning. Flaws not obvious to begin with, but that would become apparent by the 1980s.

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@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you for watching. For more Elizabeth (and Adelaide) That Was, please Like, leave a comment and Subscribe. Cheers, Will 🙏🍷
@royphillips4751
@royphillips4751 Год назад
Lived at Bagster Road Salibury North from 1955-1962 when I joined the RAAF.Father was a long time Employee of LRWE/WRE-and I will always remember the Vickers Valiants taking off from RAAF Edinburgh for missile tests at Woomera. Many years later I flew a jet into Woomera myself.Great work Will. Thank you.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Awesome Roy. Thank you so much for sharing that. Love it. Thank you for watching. I'm posting the full 1957 Woomera/WRE video on Tuesday shown in part here 🙏
@catey62
@catey62 Год назад
@@elizabeththatwas Look forward to seeing that. as a fan of Len Beadell, the famous army surveyor that wrote many books and was responsible for selecting and surveying the site for Woomera, and the sites of Emu field, where the first mainland atomic tests were carried out and later Maralinga, it will be interesting to learn more about Woomera and the WRE as well. 🙂
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
@@catey62 cool. It's a great snapshot of South Australia as a whole, as well as the WRE site in Penfield/Salisbury. Many of the workers shown in the film would have been Salisbury North and Elizabeth's first residents.
@francesmullett8907
@francesmullett8907 Год назад
What a great video. I will have to watch a few more times to get my head around the scenes. Being an old Salisbury North person, the shots of the Flour Mill, the flooded Waterloo Cnr Rd ( when in flood we used to go to the underwater bridge and pull oranges out of the Little Para ) The cabin homes after closing down where we used to fill up wheat bags of fruit to take home. The Salisbury Railway station etc etc. Too many stories to tell. Regards Barry Mullett.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Hey Barry. Thank you for sharing mate. I love hearing everyone's stories. And thank you for watching. Much appreciated 🙏
@helenbachari6372
@helenbachari6372 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely fascinating! I had no idea about the Elizabeth/Salisbury North issues until now. We migrated from England in 1959/60 and our first 'proper' home in SA was in Harvey Road at Elizabeth South (dad was employed at LWRE). We moved to Ceduna in '62 and came back to Elizabeth Downs (Gayland Road) in '64. My parents bought their first home in 65/66 in McLelland St, Elizabeth Field. My first proper job was at WRE .The footage has taken me on a wonderful trip down memory lane. Thank you :-)
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
My pleasure Helen. Glad you enjoyed it. This is video 4 in a series - each looking at a different aspect of Elizabeth's history, but interconnected. The next video is a week or two away and looks at life for residents at the Smithfield Hostel. Eventually, the series will look at Elizabeth's rather rapid decline in fortunes, beginning in the 1970s. But for now, it's all about a time when the future looked promising. Thanks again, much appreciated
@geoffmower8729
@geoffmower8729 Год назад
Wow great job mate very interesting so much history a lot of it before my family came in 64. I remember my mum and dad taking us kids to Winsor green playing around the fountain and mucking about on the big gun. It's funny but even till this day when ever I smell enamel paint it reminds me of the first day we moved into our house in Elizabeth west. They must have given it a paint up before we moved in. They didn't do anything about the long grass and tall weeds though we could hardly get the car up the drive the first day lol. Thanks for all your hard work and the memories.👍
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you Geoff. Our local history is so rich and nuanced. I love that it's being appreciated. And I love all the stories everyone is sharing - thank you 🙏
@user-jr1bl6tc3k
@user-jr1bl6tc3k 9 месяцев назад
Dad was raaf lived in Elizabeth Park 60_64 good times
@RockandRollMusic00
@RockandRollMusic00 Год назад
These videos are well researched and presented. Keep up the great work of preserving the history of our district. It is much appreciated.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you my friend. Appreciate the kind words. Will do 🙏
@JannetteRoadsStevens
@JannetteRoadsStevens 6 месяцев назад
1960, Enterprise Road, Elizabeth East. My mothers family came to South Australia in 1849. I loved my childhood in Elizabeth. EEPS was great. Then my parents bought The Celebrity Coffee Lounge in the original centre. That was great. 1963-1972.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 6 месяцев назад
Wow. 1849. That's amazing. What tales your family must be able to share about SA's history. Celebrity Lounge is quite the enigma - I have tried find resources about the place and tales documenting its history, but there's very little on public record. Would love to do a mini-doc episode one day. Just need the material . Thank you again, for watching. Much appreciated
@francesmullett8907
@francesmullett8907 4 дня назад
Loved the Celebrity. Local teenage hangout 1964 - 68
@timdixon1166
@timdixon1166 10 месяцев назад
This video brought back some memories. I moved into Elizabeth as a child as part of one the first groups of residents and was at the official opening. Surprisingly, I was not aware of the Salisbury North connection and always assumed it was built at the same time as Elizabeth.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 10 месяцев назад
Hey Tim. What a day that first day must have been. I can only imagine the sense of hope and new beginnings that must have prevailed that day. And awe, too I imagine. At the sheer scale of starting afresh in an as yet unfinished new town
@rod_at_adelaide5766
@rod_at_adelaide5766 Год назад
Great video Will, very informative
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you my friend. Much appreciated 🙏
@kania6468
@kania6468 Год назад
Great effort and work
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you! Cheers! Much appreciated Ka 🙏🍷
@lilyhalton1798
@lilyhalton1798 2 месяца назад
I worked at British Aerospace Defense Research Centre
@finallylearnthow
@finallylearnthow 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting video 👌🏼
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching - much appreciated
@vincentthao3497
@vincentthao3497 Год назад
Love your work mate , where was the district council of Munno Para office located ?
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you Vincent. Not sure of the street address but know it was located in Gawler somewhere. As they are very respectful of their architectural history I imagine the building is probably still there somewhere 🙏
@vincentthao3497
@vincentthao3497 Год назад
@@elizabeththatwas I do remember a council office near the Smithfield plains shops , now a child care facility
@RockandRollMusic00
@RockandRollMusic00 Год назад
The original District Council of Munno Para East office, not to be confused with the later built Munno Para West office at 39 Murray Street, still stands at the corner of Adelaide Rd and Twelfth Street in Gawler.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
@@RockandRollMusic00 brilliant. Thank you for that info, good to know 🙏
@ACDZ123
@ACDZ123 Год назад
I'm from Perth so this was all new information for me. I don't know much about Adelaide and I'm sick of hearing about Melbourne and Sydney 😆
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Thank you for watching. Perth is a beautiful city.
@gardenpixie20
@gardenpixie20 11 месяцев назад
This was really interesting. The pic of Waterloo Corner, i think theres one tree still standing. Prerty sure it's the same one. Great video.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed. If that tree could talk, hey? Thank you for watching, much appreciated
@gardenpixie20
@gardenpixie20 11 месяцев назад
As an born and bread Adelaideian, it's a very interesting channel. I'll tell my local friends about it😁👍
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
@@gardenpixie20 thank you so much. i really appreciate that. I have a follow to this video coming out. I hope to post it this weekend. Following at the latest. This one focuses on life at the Smithfield Hostel in the 60s.
@amandamikita
@amandamikita Год назад
I’m watching this and living in a rental property in Salisbury North
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
Interesting history, isn't it? That poor horse stuck in the sewer trench. Thank you for watching. Much appreciated
@urbanyouths
@urbanyouths 11 месяцев назад
Wayne Carey had some interesting things to say about Smithfield, when he went to school there, lol.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
I didn't know he went to school there - was that Smithfield Primary School, or Smithfield Plains High School? Cheers for that info
@urbanyouths
@urbanyouths 11 месяцев назад
@@elizabeththatwas He didn't mention the school, but he mentioned living in Smithfield and going to school in the area. It's in a Fox Sports article, just search "Wayne Carey Smithfield Fox Sports" it pops up the top.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
@@urbanyouths excellent. Thank you for that, much appreciated
@simonswain7819
@simonswain7819 11 месяцев назад
He's a coke addict himself
@jamiechippett1566
@jamiechippett1566 Год назад
Bluddy housing trust! They sure didn't manage things right and now look what we got. Elizabeth's design and outlook great but housing trust stuffed it all up with a rushed in thoughtless housing design(semi detached) and now paying for it. Bulldozer the lot! I reckon.
@johnalicajic5315
@johnalicajic5315 Год назад
It’s a slum everything is terrible the few good things can’t outweigh the bad people the ugliness of the joint yeah bull dozer simple what’s the solution to so many intractable problems know there’s social housing like unity housing there clients are the most mentally ill drug addicts violent bipolar psychos there replacing the housing sa trash on behalf of the government you got Sudo crime nah if your a normal person you are always going to be tainted because people are road raged see strange things no I hate the north
@simonswain7819
@simonswain7819 11 месяцев назад
Elizabeth is the poor relative itself
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas 11 месяцев назад
It is now, yes :-(
@gillianbrookwell1678
@gillianbrookwell1678 Год назад
Why do you have to play background music throughout? I've noticed this on so many videos on RU-vid; I find it annoying, unnecessary and difficult to listen to what would be an interesting video.
@elizabeththatwas
@elizabeththatwas Год назад
Hello Gillian. That's a great point. Please send me a link to your your work - I'm always looking to learn from others
@mediamike693
@mediamike693 26 дней назад
+++🤩🤣+++I 🐸🦘 USED 2 LIVE IN PARAFIELD GARDENS + MY NOW WIFE 🥰 USED 2 KIVE IN PARALOWIE + I ALSO LIKED THE PEOPLE THERE 🤣 +++NO FALSE + UNRULY ATTITUDES+++🤩 MY 🐸 KIND OF PEOPLE+++THAT WAS OVER30 +++SEE YOU THERE+++🤩 YEARS AGO + I NO LONGER LIVE THERE 🏘 BUT I SHOP AT THE ELIZABETH SHOPPING CENTRE😃+++MY SHOPPING DAY 9IS ON A MONDAY+++SEE YOU THERE+++🤣
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