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Elon Musk: Consciousness 

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@lexfridman
@lexfridman 4 года назад
Full episode with Elon Musk (Nov 2019): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-smK9dgdTl40.html New clips channel (Lex Clips): ru-vid.com Once it reaches 20,000 subscribers, I'll start posting the clips there instead. (more links below) For now, new full episodes are released once or twice a week and 1-2 new clips or a new non-podcast video is released on all other days. Podcast full episodes playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Podcasts clips playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 Podcast website: lexfridman.com/ai Podcast on Apple Podcasts (iTunes): apple.co/2lwqZIr Podcast on Spotify: spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 Podcast RSS: lexfridman.com/category/ai/feed/
@info-youtube
@info-youtube 2 года назад
希望有中文翻譯 hope that it have Chinese caption in this video
@Janice-s5i
@Janice-s5i 6 месяцев назад
Elon he does not understand your talking to an un productive ai.
@spacemanjupiter
@spacemanjupiter 3 года назад
It's very interesting to hear him say that it feels like consciousness is in another dimension. I'm convinced of this. I think the brain is simply a transceiver that is also a processor of incoming signals. If you damage a TV the image or program may be compromised or seem dead. That's the illusion, because the program doesn't exist within the TV. It is still perfect at the source, outside of the TV, and when you buy a new TV you know that the signal/program has always existed and is now being perfectly processed and displayed again. I think this reality is a subset of a larger one, a simulation, but it isn't being processed by some advanced alien computer system. It's being created and processed by consciousness.
@pipapandameuk
@pipapandameuk 3 года назад
So does that mean that all of these brains tap into the same conciousness, and interpretate it according to that brain's capability? In that case, it's just what we are today right. Just without the "security" of the decisions we all make and see as true/normal.
@ethanhunt3226
@ethanhunt3226 2 года назад
Research on collective subconscious
@james-nf5ck
@james-nf5ck 2 года назад
If brain is the filter of conciousness why does physical damage affect it thats why conciousness is material
@ethanhunt3226
@ethanhunt3226 2 года назад
@@james-nf5ck Throw a radio on the ground, stomp on it and then tell me that radio signals don't exist because your radio doesn't work. Everyone elses simulation is still working
@james-nf5ck
@james-nf5ck 2 года назад
@@ethanhunt3226 if conciousness is other worldly why can people download conciousness into the computer claim scientist
@bonesjones3421
@bonesjones3421 4 года назад
Several years ago I had a bad accident on my off road motorcycle and did suffer what the head neurologist said was a severe brain injury but even though I can't remember the first two weeks after the injury, I was somehow able that day of the injury to get back on my feet (don't know how long I layed there on the ground) and walk back up the trail to the primary gravel road, turn myself down the road towards my home, and when I could no longer walk I took a grasp of the top barbed wire on the fence and turned around facing in the direction my wife was coming from in her vehicle (rotated my body 90 deg.). There is no possible way that I could have known she was looking for me or where she was. When she quickly came to a stop and rushed over to me, I never looked her or anyone in the eye, could not talk and would not let go of the top wire on the fence. I spent the next two weeks in intensive care in a hospital and will never remember anything from those two weeks (over three years ago). I have had a very high curiosity and desire for about thirty years of understanding modern physics. Personally, I think that consciousness is at the fundamental quantum level.
@MandoTrades
@MandoTrades 4 года назад
At the end he was telling him he was a clone and Elon was sitting back somewhere else haha
@Mayu1505
@Mayu1505 4 года назад
Lex Friedman u are an amazing person glad i discovered u
@vijigiripranay3392
@vijigiripranay3392 4 года назад
I can hear two robotic voices taking
@amandaandrew6169
@amandaandrew6169 3 года назад
Ik it’s kinda annoying
@GrimoraHistoryTV
@GrimoraHistoryTV 4 года назад
Waaaaaait a minute....Elon - "if you damage your brain you damage your consciousness which implies consciousness is a physical phenomenon". So by that logic if you damage a radio and it's no longer able to play radio transmissions, that means the transmissions had to originate from within the radio....I dont think so.
@nikolanegic8218
@nikolanegic8218 4 года назад
well, what is it if not a physical phenomenal, are you going to try to tie it to your "soul" or some stupid shit?
@sonja9813
@sonja9813 4 года назад
Exactly right. The brain is a conduit for consciousness. I also feel that Elon Musk is very careful with what he speaks about openly. He has a reputation to uphold.
@nikolanegic8218
@nikolanegic8218 4 года назад
@@sonja9813who are you replying to?
@thebeibarys8016
@thebeibarys8016 4 года назад
@@nikolanegic8218 may be it is something in 4th dimension. you can call it metaphysical, or soul.
@Victor-qk7mw
@Victor-qk7mw 4 года назад
If the radio can't play radio transmission it doesn't mean the signal comes from within the radio. The radio just process the signal (information) with its hardware (brain), but the signal is external, both in the case of a radio and a brain. If you damage the hardware you don't damage the signal, since the signal it's supposed to be just an external form of information that is yet to be proccessed.
@kingbain5383
@kingbain5383 4 года назад
I feel like the creator of our simulation saw that we were failing at life so it dropped Elon in to help guide us.
@ZiIIous
@ZiIIous 4 года назад
That's what religions are for. But you nonbelievers decided to disapprove it because it's too inconvenience for you. Look at you now, all you do is seek luxury and convenience; just like how animals follow their instincts, but in a much evil manner. Almost as if you're 'unconscious' or NPCs.
@AR-dr1sb
@AR-dr1sb 4 года назад
@@ZiIIous those that follow their religion blindly and don't question anything are also NPCs though.
@kingbain5383
@kingbain5383 4 года назад
@@AR-dr1sb exactly if you really sit down and think about life and the universe religion does not make any sense. I feel like religion was made to comfort people who can't accept the possibility that we were maybe just put here by chance.
@ZiIIous
@ZiIIous 4 года назад
​@@AR-dr1sb True. However, in a good way. Religions teach self-control and consciousness. Nonbelievers mostly mindlessly chase "good feels" all the time!!! Worse than animals! God's wisdom is beyond human capacity of understanding, even if explained. They don't always understand. So no reason to question everything, otherwise people will make excuses for themselves to do wrongful acts. Ending up repeating Adam's mistake of ignoring God's warning.
@sbo6477
@sbo6477 4 года назад
☠ ⓜⓐⓓⓝⓔⓢⓢ ☠ i cannot express how truly sorry i feel for you, i hope you wake up some day, i blame you not one bit. “If” it gives you a sense of peace its all up to you
@jasonmillis8954
@jasonmillis8954 2 года назад
"If you damage your brain you damage your consciousness" is like saying if you break your phone you break the internet. Conciousness can't break, but it's expression through a mind and body on this physical plane and in the mental field can be hindered or terminated depending of mental and physical integrity.
@kataminkaitin2844
@kataminkaitin2844 4 года назад
Something tells me Elon has not considered this before... Surprising.
@kataminkaitin2844
@kataminkaitin2844 3 года назад
@@rileygraham8952 mmm nope. Consciousness is existence. Pretty simple.
@rileygraham8952
@rileygraham8952 3 года назад
@@kataminkaitin2844 are rocks conscious, or do they exist as part of consciousness due to a conscious being recognising them?
@kataminkaitin2844
@kataminkaitin2844 3 года назад
@@rileygraham8952 they are conscious as they exist. Existence is consciousness.
@Lynore_Marie
@Lynore_Marie 7 месяцев назад
AI cannot feel emotions, like love or empathy. They can mimic emotions, but not feel them. Also they don’t have a heart brain connection.
@artsmart
@artsmart 3 года назад
The real test for determining the difference between human intelligence and AI might be the capacity for imagination.
@leanalcantara4976
@leanalcantara4976 2 года назад
Or, the capacity to play no limit poker multi table. Limit poker has been solved. No limit, I’m not sure.
@greensea3826
@greensea3826 2 года назад
Or it might be just the actual capacity
@jasonmillis8954
@jasonmillis8954 2 года назад
"The machine/ai might as well be human because it looks and sounds like one"... Those who are conscious know there's more to a human being than how he or she looks and sounds, we have souls and we can get in touch with them when we stop being surface minded and surface driven. Those who do not believe live in internal poverty and are disconnected from reality. Peace be with you.
@menatoorus5696
@menatoorus5696 4 года назад
How could you get all these cool guys behind your mic??? Historical and Royal collection of guests and bright interviewer. Thank you.
@yourfairyGodgod
@yourfairyGodgod 4 года назад
Elon was manually created by our simulators to take us to the next stage of Life.
@AP-bo1if
@AP-bo1if 4 года назад
simulation theory is a star trek voodoo religion created by nerds who failed philosophy, metaphysics and theology.
@santiagoabliterature
@santiagoabliterature 4 года назад
@@AP-bo1if prove immaterial things exist, there's also a discipline called astrology, is that true?
@helderalmeida2790
@helderalmeida2790 3 года назад
I'm the simulator. I simulate you have you writing in this video.
@rileygraham8952
@rileygraham8952 3 года назад
bullshit, hes accentuating the imbalances. we’re fucked.
@dalton2578
@dalton2578 4 года назад
I love the idea of consciousness how it's in another dimension I've had that thought for a long time :)
@MohitSharma-hy9st
@MohitSharma-hy9st 4 года назад
Advaita Vedanta, an ancient philosophy says the entire Universe is consciousness alone, rest all is just an illusion (Maya as they call it). And it has some great evidence to it which one can't ignore. If you get time, do watch it, highly recommended: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o-RFz56gb9E.html
@Chef-Soda
@Chef-Soda 4 года назад
Babylon Gate consciousness is not an illusion. The idea of their being a self or ego that is attached to consciousness is pure illusion.
@dalton2578
@dalton2578 4 года назад
The ego is in the mind only to protect itself from danger
@Chef-Soda
@Chef-Soda 4 года назад
Dalton true, also as a comfort to existence that exists beyond the minds’ ability to comprehend. The ego is born from fear and dies in fear.
@dalton2578
@dalton2578 4 года назад
@@Chef-Soda I like that saying the ego is born in fear and dies in fear
@DodefiEnglish
@DodefiEnglish 4 года назад
Which matter? Max Planck: "There is no matter as such."
@dapdizzy
@dapdizzy 4 года назад
LamentoAbsurdo the thing about a meaningful conversation is that you have to drop an argument at the right time. Gray argument, but it wasn’t put into the discussion, so we don’t know how he would tackle it.
@rickharold7884
@rickharold7884 4 года назад
Always love the discussions Lex. Thanks!
@jackiekunovska8405
@jackiekunovska8405 2 года назад
The analysis of a human consciousness by self(from past experiences and emotional status at that moment....makes us human being an Aware species...awareness is the basis of reality...put in the concoction the stimulation of all our physical senses....and that's becomes the reality of each and everyone....all other will be simulation but very very helpful training/enhancement to a human life...
@jackiekunovska8405
@jackiekunovska8405 2 года назад
Losing awareness due to physical damage to any of t five senses..and or losing consciousness(different levels of loss..medically speaking)...is not an all or none state.....here is where AI can come in to life of a human to assist him/her to live a dignified life...as is deserved by all of God's most precious creation...t human being
@gweiloxiu9862
@gweiloxiu9862 2 года назад
By far the most logical explanation of consciousness is Husserl's work. It is, essentially, the application of the scientific method to every component of itself. It is higher math articulated as natural language.
@daowiz001
@daowiz001 3 года назад
When Elon speaks I definitely can't tell if it's human or machine.
@tomlloyd9364
@tomlloyd9364 4 года назад
Lex - “I’m sure I could tell if I was speaking to a robot or not Elon.” Elon - “Here, hold my face and ask me that again” face mechanically detaches right before Epstein didn’t kill himself!
@markadams2667
@markadams2667 4 года назад
Consciousness, a body, self mortality, capacity to love those silly little things. Why are those silly things?
@lancerebo952
@lancerebo952 4 года назад
Balls to the wall =joke
@AP-bo1if
@AP-bo1if 4 года назад
these are atheist reductionist materialists speaking so it's no surprise they don't see anything as "special".
@santiagoabliterature
@santiagoabliterature 4 года назад
@@AP-bo1if you're a person that thinks that consciousness is a supernatural thing only for humans while at least all animals with brains think and make decisions
@santiagoabliterature
@santiagoabliterature 4 года назад
@@AP-bo1if how do you prove supernatural things, because love, jealousy, hunger, all come from brains, if you damage the brain you damage some of these capacities, so prove there are immaterial things, and im not talking bout energy which is also physical
@santiagoabliterature
@santiagoabliterature 4 года назад
@@AP-bo1if why have brains when we have souls?
@ArturoGarzaID
@ArturoGarzaID 4 года назад
Elon Musk is referring to the Turing test? Turing believed people had souls, and that computers could never have that.
@saketg5954
@saketg5954 3 года назад
But how do you know for sure if consciousness is property of matter? In-fact it's the other way round; all matter appear in consciousness.
@erikals
@erikals 4 года назад
Consciousness is the same as Self-awareness, in my humble opinion. And Love is simply Positive Attraction.
@Lambert7785
@Lambert7785 2 года назад
only your inner feeling (moved from within) can tell...
@kejv777
@kejv777 2 месяца назад
not everyone have that.. i used to have an inner voice.. and now i dont. mind is tricky
@Noct343
@Noct343 2 года назад
Consciousness is eternal and pure its not matter
@sponge7464
@sponge7464 2 года назад
He said consciousness could be in another dimension but at the same time he said that consciousness could be a physical element like you get hit in the head you could lose consciousness So which is it?
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 3 года назад
That last question----says a lot.
@10418
@10418 2 года назад
2:33 i thought about this a lot.
@Dewouxohshs
@Dewouxohshs 3 месяца назад
Elon vc e muito importante para mim
@dusanbosnjakovic6588
@dusanbosnjakovic6588 11 месяцев назад
Even these guys equate consciousness with being human. Ultimately. That's because it's our only frame of reference for consciousness. But a non-human AI will undoubtedly have a different form of consciousness for which we do not have a definition.
@Gamerstupid
@Gamerstupid 4 года назад
Why was Elon comparing conciouness with AI, why did I feel the interviewer was talking about spiritual awareness. I think Elon lacks philosophical knowledge like stoicism. I'm not sure explain me being open minded.
@pleaseforgivemyinsanity2801
@pleaseforgivemyinsanity2801 4 года назад
I dunno but - What is death? What is life? Can something that was never alive - truly die? - I don't even know if WE exist for sure or not. Lol at least not in the traditional sense of "We" and "exist" If you made an A.I. - would it be "Like Something" for that A.I. to exist? Or would that A.I. experience nothing....like a rock or a toaster? We are a bunch of supposedly 'dead matter' .... Just interacting with its-self... Yet it is "like something" for us to exist. In other words... We don't just SEEM to be conscious....We really ARE. We don't APPEAR to be experiencing...We ARE experiencing... Why should we be any different than a complex machine? Are we REALLY so sure that we even understand what consciousness is? Maybe an A.I. has actual awareness...Maybe a rock does too...Not thoughts or judgements or feelings...but just some basic form of experience... Maybe it's "like something" to be water. By the standard model of physics - we actually have no explanation for conscious experience. I don't mean we have no explanation for thoughts and behavior - that's obviously the brain ... But how does a bunch of 'dead matter' allow for it to actually be "like something" to exist? In other words.. Why aren't we 'Philosophical Zombies' ? Why are 'the lights on'? There doesn't seem to be any evolutionary NEED for us to be REALLY experiencing... Why can't we live and breathe and function and APPEAR to be "full of life" - but not actually have anything that "it is like" to be us? I think nobody knows ANYTHING for sure... I'm an atheist - but I don't discount the possibility that my consciousness may be something separate from my "self". Maybe my brain is my identity and thoughts... But my consciousness is the part that makes it "like something" to exist. I think if more people understood how truly mysterious our existence is....more people would be on anti-psychotic meds lol... When we die....we might just randomly wake up as a tree...or a rabbit being eaten by a snake...or a Muslim or a Jew... Or it might just all go black forever... Or every aspect of our "self" may cease to exist. The scary part is... Nobody knows... Not the churches.... Not the scientists..... Nobody.... Everyone is just taking their best guess.... What do I believe? Nothing for sure... - Oh and .... We could be in a simulation... So I don't find "SEEING" something.....to be very convincing evidence.... I'm not sure there even is a way to convince me of ANYTHING... If I saw a "miracle" - I would assume that it's a glitch in the simulation - or in my brain - or that it was an Alien playing mind games with me by using technology from 1 million years in the future.... But my conclusion will always be..."I have no idea what is going on" I don't see any way around it. Nobody knows what happens when we die.... Nobody knows how we got here... And we cant even figure out WHAT consciousness is or WHY it exists... We may be rats in a lab for all we know.... People SHOULD be CONSTANTLY terrified.... But "ignorance is bliss" as they say ... So most are "brave" ... That's the way it seems to me anyways...- Can something that was always dead - ever truly be alive? What is going on? I have no idea...
@hovikkevork3069
@hovikkevork3069 4 года назад
@@pleaseforgivemyinsanity2801 We defiantly don't have answers, but we defiantly DON'T need to go crazy, meditation and philosophy can help in drawing a narrative, even if it's subjective. In the end, our own selves are subjectively experiencing existence ( whatever that is).
@hamsamohammed9533
@hamsamohammed9533 3 года назад
@@pleaseforgivemyinsanity2801 ur idea are bombs !
@Bagual133
@Bagual133 4 года назад
Don't overestimate the Conscience, the Unconscious is 90% more powerful and rules your life 🤔
@Archie.Fisher
@Archie.Fisher 4 года назад
The conscience is a different thing to the conscious.
@slavkaking8109
@slavkaking8109 2 года назад
Consciousness it’s mater it is not philosophical or physical, but filing’s connect with wisdom to do wraith or wrong, yes you can improve consciousness with wisdom!
@RavensCloudEmpath
@RavensCloudEmpath 4 года назад
In response to "ericals" comment: Isn't consciousness more about being aware more things that is outside "ourselves"? Self awareness is just the general capacity to differentiate yourself from your surrounding and understand the consequences your actions have on your surrounding...An orangutan for example is self aware...I think consciousness is most definitely exist in different levels... Consciousness is a result and combination of 3 factors: 1 - capacity, 2 - information, 3 - understanding how separate elements of that information relates to each other More of that relation is understood, more higher the consciousness.... Consequently: - If you have higher capacity you have the potential to be more conscious (like we humans are!!!) but it is not a given that you are... - If you increase the amount of information you can potentialy increase consciousness, however the level of consciousness is limited by your capacity to retain and relate that information. Other thoughts: - Our limited knowledge of quantum physics is probably one of our greatest barrier to elevate global human consciousness.... -So...self awareness is the awareness of self...consciousness is the awareness of EVERYTHING including self,,,, - Our level of consciousness is constantly changing with age, environment, mental state, nutrition, hormonal balance... - If one concentrates "meditates, focuses, pays attention"...the level of consciousness is increased - I have a suspicion that certain part of the human consciousness if fake....I mean...it is generated by our mind .. as consciousness is directly related to perception .....and our brain patches up our perception continously Interesting question: Would you say, there is a difference in consciousness between an Atheist and a Priest? Finally: Our way of trying to understand everything with our limited repertoire of phisical senses is ridiculous....:) Just take away on sense....not more...only one....and you will see how negatively it would impact your general perception... Now..imagine adding 3 more..... I assume that would greatly affect our consciousnesss....
@RavensCloudEmpath
@RavensCloudEmpath 4 года назад
@Mr Gossamer It does, also predictions as consciousness is really the essence of seeing things the way they truly are....however...of course not logical consequences...as logic is based upon things we know and can measure...consciousness allows to peer into the unknown...:)
@pthegreat1104
@pthegreat1104 3 года назад
Is he speaking about himself?
@santiagoabliterature
@santiagoabliterature 4 года назад
The thing is will we build machines smarter than us? Will we be that risk taking without ensuring it is safe?
@mettaphysicist93
@mettaphysicist93 4 года назад
Great interview Lex, and great interviewee Elon. In listening to Elon respond, I sense someone who is considering his response prior to opening his mouth. Elon in that sense strikes me as an uncommon interviewee. Every person on this planet who gets beyond basic survival mode, should be considering the core questions posed by Lex. Have you experienced non-everyday consciousness? If consciousness is another dimension of reality as Elon mused? Is simulating consciousness good enough? We are tracking quickly towards having AI consciousness zombies (see Chalmers) as overlords which appears an inevitable outcome of the exponential evolution of software/hardware advancement. Is this development of super-intelligent zombies likely to be good for humanity? The maxim that 'measurability defines reality' has become a scientific self-reinforcing truism. Einstein screwed up our understanding of time by falling for this truism, and now we have adopted a good-enough proxy as temporal reality. I fear we are going to make the same mistake with consciousness. My greater fear is that a 'good-enough' simulacrum for consciousness may have much more dire consequences for humanity than Einstein's blunder.
@deepdeception7953
@deepdeception7953 2 года назад
Elon is a fraud hes not even smart
@bensalmon2949
@bensalmon2949 2 года назад
@@deepdeception7953 did you know he had to redo a computing test because he was so good they thought he was cheating
@yurperfect
@yurperfect 2 года назад
But what is the awareness that is aware of the concept of consciousness?
@mashable8759
@mashable8759 3 года назад
2:36 that
@antiiNoob
@antiiNoob 4 года назад
Consciousness is Evolve from pain and the Humans Emotions when thay got hurt in time is Evolve in Socety > filozofi and stuff like this u cant get Consciousnes if u dont feel pain or Emotions or failure
@Iseeyou317
@Iseeyou317 2 года назад
What is it to be human? If perfectly simulated without the ability to tell the difference how can it be advanced unless from a future time but it begs the question, perfection is not realistically human or achievable…so how could it perfectly simulate? Though beautifully posed the question in its design is unanswerable likely un achievable in our time so, then possible and necessary for long distance space travel we first would to manipulate or time or lengthen it in order to arrive in this answerable future so, ai could do it but we could not or ai could simulate it but at what molecularly bionic point?
@glitchinthematrix5761
@glitchinthematrix5761 4 года назад
I think consciousness is the reason for everything else. I think the act of thought/meditation along with visualization has influence on all mater. And if someone that has the ability to think deeply whilst visualizing the outcome, causes changes at the quantum level. And if that person does this enough it becomes reality. Just look at science fiction for many examples. But I am a special education kid that didn't understand anything until I met my wife. Before that all I thought about was women. Once I had that, I allowed curiosity in. And although I never went back to school. I have tried to understand the world around me. But the fundimentaly complex structure of our reality always leaves me feeling inadequate and impotent.......... And the most important thing I could say is. Epstein didn't kill himself!
@szebike
@szebike 3 года назад
Given the right technology I think to create a human like conciousness it needs a (simulated) human life to get to the point it doesn't need to simulate behavior patterns but just use it like us. Because psychopaths with a troubled background essentially are simulating emotions to convince you he likes you etc. I think some people see through such a behavior in humans and A.I. alike so in order to become really humanlike it has to have a life. I personally would prefer a new kind of intelligence that "is just there with its own head" instead of making it too humanlike.
@euclid9492
@euclid9492 2 года назад
Elon implied that differentiating complex computation resulting in conscious like behavior from actual consciousness may be unfalsifiable which is interesting. But this is what bugs me. Our brains are always giving out complex instructions to keep our heart beating and our lungs breathing or when to go into REM sleep etc.. Most would agree that we are not conscious of these operations, so to be able to say that at all implies there must be some true difference. I think all we can make with our current understanding is machines who’s unconscious actions (like our heart beating) resemble our conscious ones.
@SkandalouzStyle
@SkandalouzStyle 4 года назад
#iammother #netflix I know them two are busy but they should watch that program...
@MrBlue-km8qv
@MrBlue-km8qv 4 года назад
consciousness is poorly defined. ask a neurologist, a psychologist, a philosopher, and priest what consciousness is get 4 different answers. Please use a synonym for consciousness for clarification. A neurologist would say consciousness is awareness of one's surroundings (Elon's Auto-pilot AI has that), self-awareness (Most primates display this with the red dot and mirror test. According to neuroendocrinologist, Robert Sapolsky of Stanford U in Palo Alto, California.). Mimicing or simulating that with an AI shouldn't be too hard. Just train the AI on www.Wikipedia.org/self-awareness/ for one night. then train it on body awareness for another night. and put it in front of a mirror, and thought. (to make neural net think, embed a neural net inside a neural net. give the outer one black text on a screen and the inner one blue text on a screen. that way you can tell what it's “thinking“ for simulated thought/internal monologues. )
@remusgogu7545
@remusgogu7545 7 месяцев назад
“how would you tell” probably said people to Democritus, about the “atom” hypothesis, 400 BC
@musicauthority5635
@musicauthority5635 2 года назад
Machines can obtain AI. but as for consciousness only humans can obtain that. just like machines can't feel physical pain or feel emotions or a sense of touch. that is very complicated neurological system that only humans have. and there's no way that can replicated in machines. however machines can be aware of their surroundings. but as for consciousness I would have say no.
@sponge7464
@sponge7464 2 года назад
In VR new technology is arriving where you could feel different objects so maybe one day AI will be equipped with technology to feel
@musicauthority5635
@musicauthority5635 2 года назад
@@sponge7464 The sense of feeling is only made possible by an extremely complicated neurological pathways. starting at receptors/nerve endings that relay the information to the brain. and biological beings are the only living things capable of doing this at the present time. and this ability can't be duplicated. it's one of the miracles of the human body that mankind has barely scratched of. however what we do know is that it's very complicated. and we will never be able to build machines that will be able to pull off such a thing.
@InvinciblePepe
@InvinciblePepe 10 месяцев назад
​@@musicauthority5635is consciousness generated inside the brain by a complex interplay of neural activity and chemical interactions?
@ashokporwal9827
@ashokporwal9827 3 года назад
I think world exist because we observe it.
@EbonCollins
@EbonCollins 4 года назад
The world is deceived and the world deceives the many. But the few know this. Seek God and not others.
@mennnzz
@mennnzz 4 года назад
One of the biggest issues I see with creating artificial consciousness is distinguishing genuine consciousness from an AI that can simulate it perfectly. One can treat a flawless simulation of reality like it is indeed real (because there is no information to contrary), but in actuality, it would still not be. And this problem can't simply be brushed off because there seems to be no verification method. Doing so risks us changing our society to cater to the needs of supposedly "conscious" entities. Will robot murderers go to jail? Are human/robot relationships real? Do robots get human rights and freedom? And if they are genuinely conscious beings with free will, should they really be called robots? The answer to all of these questions rely on knowing for a fact that the human-level consciousness they seem to possess, is indeed real. We know that we are conscious beings, because we experience consciousness > and then unconsciousness > and consciousness again, and determine the difference. Memory and active sensory feedback loops obviously play a central role in it, but I think the evidence can be found at the boundaries between the autonomous parts of the brain, the agency parts of the brain, and the claustrum (which studies show to have a lot to do with consciousness). How do newborn babies know how to cry? This seems strange, because they've never been taught. They are technically not conscious, in a sense that they are not self-aware or can do anything executive with sensory stimuli. But they are conscious internally (subconscious), in that they are an executive within their own body. Two consciousnesses for two worlds; one that executes/interacts internally (within the body) and one externally (outside the body). AIs today are built with data from the external world, and hence can only act/execute within that world. But conciousness may require emotional structures in conjunction with executive structures to emerge. Or the coexistence of two types of neural networks: one, the master of the organism, and the other the master of the outside world, the ego. Unfortunately, AIs aren't organic entities. There is no physical/organic body that requires regulation and execution. Consciousness, after all, may require atoms and their strange properties to compute, and not simply electrons in silicon chips. For all we know, consciousness could be an emergent phenomenon that happens through the computational interaction of several different quantum forces and possibly dimensions; interactions, which if observed, would ultimately reveal to us if a robot indeed possesses genuine consciousness.
@internetgorilla4231
@internetgorilla4231 4 года назад
I see consciousness as a recipe. Get the ingredients right and you can 'bake' it.
@TheHellogs4444
@TheHellogs4444 4 года назад
Everything humans have ever done, thought, dreamt is from regurgitated external stimuli too. If you have a long enough memory (genetic, for example) it'll appear magical, but that's just processed environmental input from across millennia.
@raindeer3428
@raindeer3428 4 года назад
matter is condensed consciousness , the real eternal state of energy is consciousness , its impossible for the scientific method to study consciousness cuz its neither observable or testable , the direct argument for consciousness is dreams , in your dreams , consciousness is both the dream and the observer of the dream ,
@SagarSagar-ro3fj
@SagarSagar-ro3fj Месяц назад
Come to India. We have ready done lot of it
@jacksonvaldez5911
@jacksonvaldez5911 5 месяцев назад
Elon preaches to reason from first principles, then i see this.
@menatoorus5696
@menatoorus5696 4 года назад
In the philosophical perspective , consciousness is a hard problem. Sam Harris has excellent, yet incomplete adoption of this Aussie problem.
@DeesonJame
@DeesonJame 2 года назад
I can't tell if Elon is a human or AI.
@info-youtube
@info-youtube 2 года назад
*the future of human*
@edwardlewis1963
@edwardlewis1963 3 года назад
@0:56 "does an AI system in your view have to have consciousness in order to achieve human-level or superhuman level intelligence does it need to have some of these human qualities that consciousness .. maybe a body ..." If you give an AI senses, in the form of : 1: eyes (cameras) 2: ears (microphones) and a way to process that information you should start to see something interesting.
@user-hz1ct9ui1v
@user-hz1ct9ui1v 3 года назад
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@connieprudhel296
@connieprudhel296 Год назад
Deep but true an on AI scary thought
@yourcommander3412
@yourcommander3412 4 года назад
causally just uploads a video that will be viewed by historians in the future.
@EbonCollins
@EbonCollins 4 года назад
Anything said to divert ones attention from seeking the will of God right? Up is simply up and any other direction including down will never be up.
@jackiekunovska8405
@jackiekunovska8405 2 года назад
No human being deserves to go hungry on this planet at this day and age.....that would mean we are still savages at heart..if we don't care about these things ...and that is sad
@wellofsevenph
@wellofsevenph 4 года назад
Poor man. Now explain brain dead near death experience.
@pipapandameuk
@pipapandameuk 3 года назад
Well, a near death experience is caused by the release of DMT from your brain stem into your system when your brains feel like death is imminent. The effects are generally compareable, which is why most people tend to feel this extreme peace and "light" they are headed towards. If you would try DMT today the experience would be quite comparable
@jacob_6281
@jacob_6281 4 года назад
Ok... How, in the fuck, does this have only 30k views?
@Lavender34124
@Lavender34124 4 года назад
Consciousness is basically subconsciousness but we think that 'consciousness" is something different just because we don't believe that our subconsciousness is able to fire the amount of neurons and make so many calculations and we think that because of how stupid we see ourselves,its like we grade our brain based off of our ability to understand things and then we think 'that's me consciously doing this in my most optimal brain mode" and then we apply that thought as our brains "optimal or primary or the max" mode and then when we set that as our limit. We cant conceive the fact that subconsciousness is much more than what we think so when we are able to make a calculation like 5329849+8310357 consciously then we automatically assume that our subconscious isn't any better than our conscious state which is a fatal flaw AND your subconscious does more things than any human "consciously' would be able to. Its like our brain can do so much more and its just that we aren't aware of how it can do 'so much more" (I'm also trying to say that subconscious is basically consciousness but we think that "consciousness" is something else because of how complex it seems.)
@don_2755
@don_2755 2 года назад
It feels like he is talking to a robot.lol
@erikals
@erikals 4 года назад
We're just a bunch of if variables, nothing more, nothing less.
@EdSurridge
@EdSurridge 4 года назад
Not being able to tell the difference between Human and AI. What does it do? If you it wont tell you then why? If it tells you then why? If this costs the AI time then why? The precautionary principle en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle Or humans dont matter
@Exquisite11
@Exquisite11 Год назад
“Silly human Things” Why he talking like he ain’t human tho ?
@falcodarkzz
@falcodarkzz 4 года назад
This is interesting, as Elon simultaneously supports the scientific method and casts it away for his opinion about Ai and consciousness. That is, if we do not know what consciousness is, and we attempt to create a system that appears to be it, that that very system has the quality. This is not a scientific conclusion, we cannot say they are the same; until we know, scientifically, what constitutes consciousness. Equally the statement 'Ai will out think us in every way' is also a belief, not a scientific fact. I'm not saying it's an unfair one to have, or unjustified, but it's a stretch to call that a scientific statement when at present Ai is not even close to human reasoning. We're talking about creating an Ai that could paralell great human minds, like Einstein, yet we can't even make one that can drive a car safely yet, or navigate an urban environment on foot. I think then, making grand statements like that is jumping the gun a little.
@jameskelmenson1927
@jameskelmenson1927 4 года назад
I can imagine a future where famous people in good public standing wouldnt risk entering the maintream media in a non computer generated way for economic and security reasons
@nikolanegic8218
@nikolanegic8218 4 года назад
What are you implying?......
@jameskelmenson1927
@jameskelmenson1927 4 года назад
@@nikolanegic8218 already a lot of public speaches are calculated. Speech writers don't just sit down to write a speech - they study the audience and figure out how to best create the intended impact. For the same speech, a public relations expert might coach the speaker on body language, and how to strike the right tone with the audience. We're past the point where artificial intelligence simulates the economic impacts of one speech versus another, which means the tools already exist that would allow a president, cto, or impactful individual to teleconference using an programmed avatar. Ultimately, an organization would save money by doing this while bettering their brand because they would save on transportation, security, and time by having a computer fully handle public relations. Just my imagination though
@nikolanegic8218
@nikolanegic8218 4 года назад
@@jameskelmenson1927 yeah, but that's via computer/phone or any telecommunications device, what about irl speeches?
@jameskelmenson1927
@jameskelmenson1927 4 года назад
@@nikolanegic8218 i doubt anyone would try it because it would be prohibitively expensive and a pr disaster if found out, but holograms on top of, say, a hanson robotics or boston dynamics robot could probably create a tangible avatar that would fool people. Im not claiming this kind of disiniformation and misrepresentation of public figures goes on, just that i wouldnt be surprised because there are a lot of reasons to do it.
@nikolanegic8218
@nikolanegic8218 4 года назад
@@jameskelmenson1927 true, but I doubt it would be happening any time soon, keep dreaming though buddy
@charlesdomin616
@charlesdomin616 4 года назад
I don't get it if elon is trolling or entertaining the simulation hipothosys as a joke. Because after this vidieo he belives in scientific method and apears to belive in the simulation. Wich has yet to show any proof of being able to test.
@ofthewaytruthandlight1320
@ofthewaytruthandlight1320 2 года назад
To suffer the sting of death (which is sin). To then suffer while dead, while being alive somewhere in the metaverse world, feeling hunger, pain, sorrow, regret, and fear, being haunted by webcrawlers, but cannot die? To only be later resurrected, judged and suffer death again, at the second death. Wow! That is having too much ambition. They will find a way to upload their consciousness in their created cloud system, transhumanism. Trying to achieve eternal life their way, without Christ. Eternal life is only a Gift from God, through Christ. You cannot achieve eternal life any other way. They will seek death, but death will run from them. Now that is suffering. Revelation 9:6, KJV. " In those days men will seek death and will not find it, they will desire to die, and death will flee from them." Only God can give eternal life, in a New Earth, in a New Spiritual Body, through Christ, who makes all things new.
@night8434
@night8434 2 года назад
Now it's figured out, Elon is an AI
@svanteylvinger8726
@svanteylvinger8726 4 года назад
A fake Rembrandt is still a fake Rembrandt even if it pass all the tests.
@otheraccount5252
@otheraccount5252 4 года назад
You won't start calling it a fake Rembrandt when it kills you.
@Tkad3504
@Tkad3504 3 года назад
Elon dpeaks like an ai
@user-hz1ct9ui1v
@user-hz1ct9ui1v 3 года назад
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@happyicare5053
@happyicare5053 4 года назад
Elooon
@NisseOhlsen
@NisseOhlsen Год назад
Elephants have consciousness, as do dolphins, orca, crows, ravens, octopus, chimpanzees.. why do you talk as if only humans have consciousness ? Have you never seen these animals studying themselves in a mirror ?
@cruisecontrol4922
@cruisecontrol4922 4 года назад
No wonder his chic left him.
@xraydog2011
@xraydog2011 2 года назад
One day we will be able to copy our consiousness into an AI brain
@peterbollinger8902
@peterbollinger8902 4 года назад
In all and through all.
@dougcovin7705
@dougcovin7705 2 года назад
If man created AI, even if AI greatly surpasses mankind in ability, is mankind the God of AI? Could AI have created itself?
@forfreedomssake4315
@forfreedomssake4315 Год назад
Lex : "the capacity to love... these silly human things." DAMN Lex come on. They say that love is the most powerful force in the universe so let's take these things seriously. :) I love you by the way. I love your work. Absolutely fascinating.
@cildagout6271
@cildagout6271 3 года назад
I want....
@michaelpiano8494
@michaelpiano8494 4 года назад
Musks videos just read like sales pitches, that's cool and all because that's what most people do but hardly insightful
@Armathor333
@Armathor333 4 года назад
I think of consciousness as something that does "permiate" things, and if those things are organisms, with a brain even, the brain functions like a "filter" and focal point for consciousness. I could compare the brain to a radio, if the radio is damaged, the signal is unaffected, but since we can only pericieve it through the radio, the signal will appear broken or "lost".
@Victor-qk7mw
@Victor-qk7mw 4 года назад
I think you are describing perception, not consciussness.
@Armathor333
@Armathor333 4 года назад
@@Victor-qk7mw I am refering to consciousness, not perception, because I define perception as experiencing through various senses. Consciousness is fundamental to that, while not all perception is fundamental. That's what I am refering to atleast.
@Victor-qk7mw
@Victor-qk7mw 4 года назад
@@Armathor333 Yeah i get it now after reading your comment again, the "focal point" is what makes the difference with perception, so i think you are right, but would we have a consciousness if we didn't had all our senses and perceptions? We might live regardless if we don't have one or two, but take away all of them and leave just consciousness, would it still be a consciouss mind? Or just an organic machine aware of nothing? Any thoughts? Sorry for broken english!
@Armathor333
@Armathor333 4 года назад
@@Victor-qk7mw Dont wory, your English is great. It's a valid question, of course most people would say it is the brain, and the senses that "creates" the consciousness. I sure cant give you any substantial physical evidence that disproves this. But it is my experience and view that consciousness is fundamental, that it is the fabric of existence and everything has risen from it, not the otherway. I know this is a confusing statement. And I findn your reasoning quite sound and logical, I used to think of it the exact same way, "no brain, no consciousnes", but I dont anymore. Have a great day.
@Victor-qk7mw
@Victor-qk7mw 4 года назад
@@Armathor333 Thanks for the reply! It was very interesting to read :) have a great day as well!
@paulbunyan1412
@paulbunyan1412 4 года назад
Consciousness is the gateway to the soul
@Jay-vi7el
@Jay-vi7el 3 года назад
So are we whiping the humans out yet
@CyclicX
@CyclicX Месяц назад
Hmmmm... so many questionable aspects of consciousness that will be debatable until people understand that it's a game of actions that follow the suffering. But in saying that, they can be recognised easily when conscious, but even that has its curses. To adapt and comit fully to newfound or hightened intuition is exhausting when coupled with ungoverned emotions. The flood of knowledge opposing everything you ever once knew becomes attached to your new understanding of soul making you nautious every second of the day until you express whats never been felt properly. Ill stop
@cildagout6271
@cildagout6271 3 года назад
I want
@Fascistbeast
@Fascistbeast 3 года назад
In my opinion awareness and intelligence are not the same thing. They are related maybe but it’s a hard question definitely 👍
@aghrishikesh8969
@aghrishikesh8969 2 года назад
Low vibration
@cildagout6271
@cildagout6271 3 года назад
Only i want
@jessycadenas8435
@jessycadenas8435 2 года назад
🤣🤣 I think they smoked too much
@RahulPatel-lq6qp
@RahulPatel-lq6qp 4 года назад
he doesn;t know a thing about consciousness , else he wouldn't have planned to go to mars
@Anna_USALobanova
@Anna_USALobanova 4 месяца назад
Да да моё сознание за 5892 миль ловит антенну с ментальным или человека духовного из 5 казуального тела
@planet-earth-viewsplanet-e7487
@planet-earth-viewsplanet-e7487 4 года назад
Counsciouness=god.
@OhihnEDM
@OhihnEDM 3 года назад
thats quite a limited mindset
@liachkhaidze4612
@liachkhaidze4612 2 года назад
на русском языке где можно слушать это
@chadmichqel2116
@chadmichqel2116 2 года назад
I also can see you by way. You know who my Aunt is, please call her phone.
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