Here are the timestamps. To support this podcast, check out our sponsors below. 0:00 - Introduction 0:07 - Elon singing 0:55 - SpaceX human spaceflight 7:40 - Starship 16:16 - Quitting is not in my nature 17:51 - Thinking process 27:25 - Humans on Mars 32:55 - Colonizing Mars 36:41 - Wormholes 41:19 - Forms of government on Mars 48:22 - Smart contracts 49:52 - Dogecoin 51:24 - Cryptocurrency and Money 57:33 - Bitcoin vs Dogecoin 1:00:16 - Satoshi Nakamoto 1:02:38 - Tesla Autopilot 1:05:44 - Tesla Self-Driving 1:17:48 - Neural networks 1:26:44 - When will Tesla solve self-driving? 1:28:48 - Tesla FSD v11 1:36:21 - Tesla Bot 1:47:01 - History 1:54:52 - Putin 2:00:32 - Meme Review 2:14:58 - Stand-up comedy 2:16:31 - Rick and Morty 2:18:10 - Advice for young people 2:26:08 - Love 2:29:01 - Meaning of life SPONSORS: - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - ButcherBox: butcherbox.com/lex to get offers & discounts - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex and use code Lex25 to get 25% off - ROKA: roka.com/ and use code LEX to get 20% off your first order - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get special savings
I find most interviews with Elon incredibly frustrating. Just shallow questions that don’t really do the man’s mind justice. This was great. Good job Lex.
I respect and appreciate Elons moments of pause to think and respond the way he wants, but damn there’s so many times I thought the podcast froze 🤣🤣🤣❤️
He is like a computer, gathering data from all hard drive, then process them with ram memory and output an answer simplified so we can understand it ( what conputer generate on the screen for us to see. That itself was impressive. He also rarely seems to contredict or correct his output so well the all process was efficient.
Dare I say that this is easily Elon’s best interview by far. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that it’s Lex on the other side of the table. Lex, you are getting better & better at this too💪🏽
I think it's just two people we really love talking, a lot of what was said wasn't anything new to me but I don't think I cared cause it's two great inspiring people.
I think it is because the robot or alien that he is, he mimics the behaviour and the aura of the one who is in front of him. Lex is as laid back one can be while being productive. Elon just mimicked him 🤷♂️
Asking him for the third time if he is Satoshi is a bit much though. Also, most of the main points on blockchain are missing. (e.g., distributed trust, no central authority, solution to the non trivial byzantine generals problem).
I loved how Lex let the interview breathe. The moments of silence (where I had to check to see if the video was buffering or stopped) actually added gravitas to the question and subsequent thoughtful response. It was like Elon was playing out all of the probabilities of his responses before answering. Amazing to watch (and listen!) Way better than the WSJ interview… Keep up the great work!
@JT Raven What is your ideal? Everyone has an equal share of the pie? Which pie? The Stone Age pie, Dark Ages pie, today's pie or tomorrow's pie? If the latter, who will make it?
@@RogerM88 Would rather have tech giants have dreams like that rather than dreams of an oil dependent earth-only based human race that has stupidly high mortality rates in cars.
With most other interviewers I feel that I've heard it all and I'm just listening to Elon say things he's said a 1000 times. Not with Lex. His questions really allowed Elon to go deeper and share his thoughts in ways that we would never hear from 99% of other interviews. Thank-you Lex. What a beautiful way to spend the first few hours after midnight on new years day (for me).
Honestly, I was a bit disappointed that the practical questions didn't go deeper. I could've done without the "What is love" and esoteric stuff, which is mostly a waste of time. Save those for Peterson. It's hard enough to find interviews asking deeper engineering, science and production questions with Elon. All we get from the mainstream interviews is the vapid questions meant for people who've only heard of Elon and that he makes cars that magically drive themselves. I'm not ragging on Lex, just that I would've liked to hear more than cursory questions about the actually relevant stuff like Neuralink, Dojo, etc, and less grading memes. I don't care what Elon's favorite colour and lucky number is, or what his definition of "love" is. No, I don't even care what type of society Elon thinks people on mars will form. I'd rather hear what he thinks will be the major engineering challenges utilizing regolith to build infrastructure, or actual practical things like that. Leave the shallow question stuff to the vapid mainstream interviewers. The deep dive into Tesla's self driving software, is what should've happened with the other subjects, but it was still overall a great interview.
Right! I go for a 2 to 3hr walk everyday at 2pm and usually throw on the latest Rogan, bur yesterday and today there were no new uploads...then BAM led uploads this and Rogan has a 3.5hr last minute Pod. Stacked for the evening now 👍
I remember when they had their first interview. Elon was quite cold, but professional. 3rd time around, both enjoying each other's company. Great to see.
Yeah the signature Elon “Long Pause” 😅. Would like Lex to ask Elon exactly what he’s thinking/processing when he’s going thru his own mind at that 5-10 second moment.
His source of strength? He’s a visionary there bud.. no offense but this man doesn’t think like the ordinary Joe ..He has a desire to change the world.. a truly gifted man I believe guided by a higher power to propel this world forward.
Nope he’s an extremely rich man with killer marketing. I can’t wait until everyone sees him for who he truly is. Notice not a single one of the advances he has predicted his companies would make have come true. He’s been making these predictions since 2017 at least. And he keeps doing it and none of his followers bat an eye. I can say with certainty you’re getting played. At the very least, please just look into this. If you think I’m wrong in the end it’ll only make you sure of yourself. I can guarantee you’ll find the opposite though.
Elon is such an extraordinarily busy person, so it means a lot for him to give 2.5 hours of his time to someone. It shows the level of respect that he has toward Lex -- respect that has been well earned.
Nothing is more sincere than a person taking time to ponder a question. It increases the probability that the answer will be useful…and mostly unique. Thanks Lex, thanks again Elon.
I loved seeing the clever sense of humor between these two men especially in the very beginning when Lex told Elon to get closer. Lol! I laughed right along with them. Lex really brings out the best in his guests.
It’s a good thing for human to have a good humor to stayed close to your family and friends, together to be laughed, enjoy, with love and happiness, to keep life going forward. Love you all❤.
@@ryankueter8396 When it comes out that he can't fund Starlink V2 and the FAA makes him move Starship out of Boca Chica. And when regulators wake up and prohibits the killing beta test of his "Autopilot." on public streets and he loses the Solar City trial.
He seems to open up to you a lot more. Probably because you give him time to think a question through before answering and you don't ask typical stupid questions. Great job man.
@@timothyharrison Amen, it shows great intelligence especially in this day an age. He speaks like an old wise man. Pull up a chair, listen and take notes.
A short summary: - Finishing high stress situations sucessfully you feel more relief than elation - Most difficult problem regarding starship is engine production, right from the materials to design you have to have the best of everything to make the best engine - Mindset of Elon: When something is important enough, you have to get it done. there’s no factor of motivation or anything in order to work on something - Thinking in terms of first principles can be applied to any walk of life, just have an axiomatic base that you believe in and then you reason up from there to cross check your conclusion with the axiomatic truth. - Another mental model of thinking is to take a thing and scale it to a very large or a very small number and see how do things change ( you can use it to scale a product large and see if its still expensive by which you can arrive at an conclusion to work on the design of the product or not) - it's important to think of these things like probabilities, not certainties, there's a probability that something bad will happen on earth. Hence, its best that we work towards making life a multi planetary species - Probably in mars, direct democracy over representational democracy works best! - Helpful to think money in terms of information theory, with fiat currency the error in the database keeps increasing as government tries to print more money, cryptocurrency is an attempt to reduce this error created by the government. - Bitcoin is useful as a store of wealth but not as a day to day currency. Dogecoin could be used as a day to day currency as a fixed number of hash string gets generated every year and inflation reduces over time. - It is possible that satoshi nakamoto is Nick Szabo - Replacing processed images by raw photon inputs from camera and switching more traditional code over the neural network (as it does seem have to hit its global maximum on vector space creation) - Lot of bare-metal coding C/C++ is required for tesla self driving traditonally more on the control part after input has processed - Human robots are a thing, might replace manual un-interesting work. - History is a good way to learn and understand about the nature of civilization and indiviuals - Advice to young people: Try to be useful, ask youself are you contributing more than you consume? To have a net positive contribution to the society would be the right thing to aim for. - Reading a condensed version of the Britannica encyclopedia can be useful. Just read,read as much as you can. - Having a growth of the pie mindset, over thinking in terms of zero-sum game is useful. Usually many people think in terms of zero sum game, but that is rarely the case as the pie gets bigger as more people get involved - Whats the meaning of life? The answer is the universe, now its just a matter of asking the right questions. Elons foundation of philosophy is that he is curious about the nature of the universe. But we will not live forever, hence expanding the scope and scale of consciousness is fundamentally a good thing.
@@KaizenB It gives the viewer a nice summary of what is covered and helps let people know what to expect. I was hoping for Lex to hold Elon accountable for all the people he helped kill and the coups he helped orchestrate in order to capture precious minerals and resources abroad, but it seems like he's being interviewed as a celebrity, not a grossly powerful super-billionaire.
Loved this interview. I was struck by Elon's advice for life, "Try and be useful." He went on to say that being useful was incredibly difficult. I believe being useful can be simply a state of mind. My daughter manages an AM/PM selling junk food and gasoline. But she is so important for so many people just going through their day. To some many people, filling their tank on the way to work and grabbing a quick cup of coffee and some donuts is such a vital part of their day. My daughter keeps a very clean well stocked store and she is polite and cheerful to everyone she meets. She actually attracts repeat customers. How do I know? Customers have told her so. She is, in short, useful. We all have purpose if we look for it
I like that Elon has no qualms about being silent and deeply thinking through Lex's questions. This also shows Lex's skill in finding questions that even Elon has not previously considered. Keep up the good work Lex! You should drink with Elon next time!
I love it too, letting someone get there answer together, makes much more sense than answering half ass.
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Like that too though I cannot believe Elon never thought through how long it will be to land on mars. But he might have had to reevaluate due to recent developments
Let's just take a moment to appreciate the wonderful life of opportunities we live today. I am sitting near the chimney in a 500 people village in center-south Italy. If the Internet didn't exist the only thing I could have done was probably to be a farmer and sell harvests on local markets, speaking italian dialect with no clue about how the world works. Now I do speak and understand English. I am a computer Scientist and software engineer. I studied physics and I am aware that the life we live today is not magic. The way we control information and excite electromagnetic fields and build on top of that protocols and abstractions and digital circuits and compilers and operating systems and browsers and media and content it just a marvellous engineering effort by the most awesome species ever existed in the universe as far as I know. I am so grateful for being born in the 21st century and have the possibility to learn so much from some of the smartest and thoughtful people in the world. Thanks Elon, thanks Lex.
Excellent sentiment. I'm always trying to get this point across to my slightly bored science students - if we had the proper perspective then we'd be constantly stunned by the progress our species has made so far.
I think I’ve seen the lion’s share of Elon interviews, and for the last couple of years it’s been sort of like watching an old movie again and again. 80% of the questions he’s been asked have been uninformed or at best old news. This interview, on the other hand, is monumental in the storytelling of Elon; the questions are qualified, relevant, humble, challenging, respectful and full of love. You, dear Lex, are a giant! Thank you for this gem of a conversation 🙏🏻❤️
Or 90% typical interviews hitting on the same talking points. This was 50% or maybe a bit less and in most cases expanded on talking points to some degree with new depth.
My vote for "The podcast of the 2021". Such a nice surprise for the holidays. Great timing, great topics and questions. Thank you, Lex! You are getting better and better, man! Oss!
What a time to be alive. Thankyou Lex for this wonderful interview. Please keep these going for years to come, they inspire and are a beacon of knowledge and hope for our times. Thanks again for all your work in this space.
Elon is proof that money cant fix ignorance. I think the greatest gift Musk has given us is that he has singlehandedly blown open the myth that the rich and powerful people are intelligent and skilled.
I guess that's what happens when you find someone who can relate to you at that wavelength. Most people don't seem to be interested in Space Rockets or payment systems.
The discussion about full self driving was obsoletely fascinating! Great interview! I don't think people realize Tesla has changed their approach to FSD using photons and neural networks just like humans do. Amazing.
My husband and I are listening to this (long-awaited!) interview while driving across California for our vacation. Our 3.5 y.o old has fallen asleep, and we can enjoy the episode together! Such a great holiday treat! Oh, and Elon’s pauses make us think whether sth is bad with our Internet connection, or he’s taking time to think. Apparently, the latter 😄 I wish I could learn how not to be afraid taking long pauses during the interviews and meetings😃
corporate communicaton is just over rated in my opinion. I struggle with "communication " coz I need time to process and think but its taken as a "fault" that needs to be fixed. will hopefully be leaving my job next year as I'm building passive income streams, I really think the corporate world should do a rethink on how human are viewed and treated.
I give Elon credit. I do like that he can quote out of pocket things you'd never expect. I enjoy having knowledge someone else doesn't have, and being able to give information on the spot people didn't think I'd know. It must be a good feeling for Elon given he knows quite a lot. He knows a lot more than me that's for sure, but I'll steadily learn and even if I never go as far in life as he did. I can still learn, and share.
I love the way you navigate conversations Lex, you're base simplicity makes conversations almost seamless. I see your ability to throttle the conversations and allow the listener/guest to consolidate their energy to respond as accurately as possible. It's a beautiful skill to witness!
The timestamps do wonders too. I can skip ahead if I get bored of the subject then come back to it later when my mind is different. I feel Lex is pioneering sort of this "timestamp based" style of poscasting.
Let's see if he quits on China, after his companies end up like this video itself. Banned. As the entirety of RU-vid is banned in China. The only reason China lets him operate in the country currently is because they want him to build them a bunch of multi-billion dollar factories, like the one in Shanghai. Then they can just nationalize them all, and get a bunch of free factories for companies controlled by the CCP.
I love Elon's quotes "Put in a hard day's work and try to be useful to humankind ... create more than you consume ..." and "learn a little about a lot of things ... read about a broad range of topics" as advice for our next generation!!!
@@pond.3509 Dude he is literally paying more taxes this year then every person in the us has ever payed before, what are you talking about. And there is nothing wrong about being a "businessman" we employ people like you, who are to afraid to take some risks for themselves ;)
@@pond.3509 Are you one of those people that believe anyone with more money than you is evil? That's who you are isn't it? You're one of those aren't you?
My 2 favorite minds on one video. I wish I could articulate my thoughts as well as you two! I would put myself out there working towards soooooo many causes!!! I respect the hell out of Elon and Lex for furthering humanities reach into new and exciting directions!!!! We can't survive without men like this steering us into a new world beyond our current abilities to perceive...kudos to you both.
Lex, one of the best things about your interviews with Elon is your ability to ask him the kinda questions that he normally doesn’t get asked in interviews. Because of your expertise in AI, engineering, robotics, you can really ask the kinda questions most interviewers aren’t able to and it gives Elon the chance to expand on these complex things publicly.
Elon mentionning the fuel problems the German had during WW2 reminded me that the Nazis putting their hands on all the fuel they could find in occupy France was one of the reason for french engineer Louis Breguet to create an electric car back in 1941. My grand father had one, I remember seeing it as a kid. I think a few hundred models only were produced. It could go around 50km/hour and travel 100km distance on a charge, and I think it took 24 hours to recharge the battery... no Tesla super charger back then. LOL
23:04 Jim Keller is the brother-in-law of Canadian author and clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson Source, Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer)
"You can't erase history. You can just become better in the future." ~ Lex "That's Beautiful Man" Fridman If most of us tried to be a little better each day, our future will be gold.
When I read you comment, I initially agreed. Then I realized that "better" is subjective. Some people think the world would be "better" without humans. I wish things could be so simple where we could at least agree that "better" is objectively better.
@JT Raven I had to scroll for an uncomfortably long time in order to find a comment offering your dose of reality. Thank you for showing me I'm still not alone. His comments about nuclear radiation drove me nuts too. Probably a bad analogy to compare cancerous radiation that drifts in the air and spreads through the plants and animals we eat for upwards of hundreds-thousands of years depending on the type of reactor to sunlight. Pretty sure most people understand the difference between charged particles and photons. People treat the guy like he's the most down to earth dude, but its all-conformity pressure mixing with a nation of pussies. Granted, if I had to pick a favorite billionaire it'd be Musk. But that's like picking a favorite Bond villain.
@Justus Racers Get er done. lmao. I favorite quote is when talking about the car in space, "it looks so fake it must be real." RIP to all who are fooled by this fool of a man.
I am so happy that this is available to general public and I am able to view it for free. Every podcast of yours is a gem and I can't express my gratitude enough for all of your work.
what's your point? You crave for listening to rich people telling how they waste billions of dollars after luxury fantasies of theirs, disregarding any real need of surrounding mankind and issue of the planet we all live on?
Yes! Totally agree 👍🏻 Many interviewers just orbit around themselves and don't give the often amazing guests not enough space to really articulate, position and characterize themselves. And so many interviewers just plainly ask stupid questions...
Having someone like Lex interview Elon is amazing, 2 people that can actually communicate at a "similar" level. Try getting mass media to even listen to a sentence of this and their heads will explode. Excellent interview.
Lex, your Elon podcasts were a huge factor why I bought a Tesla as well as Tesla stocks. Elon is by far the most impressive and inspirational person I am aware of! You seem like a great guy, love listening to you and your thoughtful conversations!
It's interesting to see the differences in dialogue between Elon with Rogan & Elon with Lex. Both are great interviewers in their own right, but you can see that Lex is in a better position to understand the complexities of what Elon is breaking down from a technical standpoint. It's clear Elon really enjoys this interview- Lex speaks his language.
@JT Raven me thinks you don’t really care about reality. You only care about how you don’t like the reality you live in and think it must be someone else’s fault that you don’t. Reality doesn’t care about your vision of utopia and I can assure you that if we were all to follow your prescriptions we would end up a lot worse off. Not trying to convince you, only making a statement of my belief as you took the opportunity to do.
10-15 years ago, you wouldn’t even have dreamed one of the most powerful, richest, smartest, most influential people could have a simple conversation in front of your screen like this and drop so much valuable information.
This the the best conversation I have heard between two brilliant minds that exposes the reality of our economic environment. Elon Musk is amazing in the way he sees things - great insight.
I had no idea Lex Fridman was an instructor at MIT teaching machine learning for self driving. He was incredibly disciplined in asking interesting questions but avoiding PhD level discussion
Getting Musk to be in the same place for nearly 3 hours is an incredible feat. Keeping engaged with him for that same amount of time is beyond impressive.
@@zdravkogeorgiev7201 Because he runs like 4 companies and one of them is one of the largest and fasted growing in the world. He was pretty famous for sleeping at the production line etc. Also his time would just be extremely valuable because one of his hours is probably like a lifetime of work for someone in terms of pay.
Great podcast to end the year 2021. Listening to this 2h30m conversation feels like as a 5min. But it packs information of a thick book. Thanks a lot Elon Musk and Lex Fridman.
Shout out to Lex. Elon keep doing what you’re doing, it’s people like you that gives humanity hope. Your name will be written in the history books where our grandkids will read about it. You are the Tesla and Einstein in today’s generation.
Lex I have only recently learned of your podcasts and have so enjoyed every interview I’ve listened to. You certainly have a gift. Every interview is so relaxed and even keeled, you get a chance to really see your guests let down and enjoy themselves. Very well done.
Such a weird reply.. 🙄🙄 I totally agree. He's chill, comical, intelligent..And relatable, he shuts down offensive language and ask important questions, plus I love that he's kinda obsessed with love. The man is truly gifted.
I cannot thank you enough for giving Elon time to think after you ask a question. I’m so tired of these interviewers not knowing what to do with more than 3 seconds of silence and then just filling the empty space with random words.
I absolutely love it when Elon does the thing where he pauses for 30secs before answering a question - it shows that humans need time to process information, as opposed to providing snap reactions
Yeah, he's thinking a way to bullshit up a response to appear a genius to scientifically illiterate neckbeards. When he's left alone, he reveals his scientific illiteracy.
@JT Raven you think having universal everything will diminish carbon and waste production?? (I hope you want to apply these universal principles globally right...wouldn't be bigoted would you?...spoiler alert, do all that for everyone on planet, while trying to protect environmentand and your standard of living will go to 0)? 😆
@Johannes I’ve never wanted to be on time magazine. So I don’t think that would make me happy. I thought richest in the world was reserved to those who keep their finances private, being the publicly richest person in the world doesn’t sound nearly as fun.
Lex thank you for all the content and conversations that you put out. You remain the best podcast for so many reasons but first and foremost this podcast is an inspiration for many of us dreamers and believers. You're changing the world with every video, thank you
So awesome that Elon is chilled out and having fun with Lex, such a different energy to other interviews. You rock, Lex. Can’t wait to see what you do in 2022.
I think it's because Elon can nerd out with Lex, with some other interviewers he spends 80% of his time trying to dumb down what he's saying so the interviewer understands it. :) Same vibe as when EverydayAstronaut did an interview with him.
@@flickwtchr i’d say it’s pretty generous that arguably the busiest man in the world spends time to do podcasts, something many other of the top 0.01% would never. On top of this he pays record amounts of taxes.
@@freddie_connor9202 as he should and as he should. He's paid to be there he does this to benefit himself. Hype up this tech crap that won't happen in his life time that's for sure. There will not be communities on mars in his lifetime or at all I should say.
Hey Elon, I‘m german and i thank you a lot for giving me the chance to work in the new tesla gigafactory here in germany. I will do my best to study on the side and help change something big ❤️ Someday i‘ll shake hands with you and we do even more for this world and to safe her 💪🏽
This is the only interview-based podcast that I've found actually useful. I don't really understand how people survive in this space just by being empathic. Lex has depth on what he brings to the table and clearly it's not because he comes from a software development background, but because he tries to be something else and better. Keep going with the good work.
Except for when Elon goes completely quiet and motionless when considering a question. I think they need to add some "hmm" type vocalisations and few small random muscle movenments in order to be convincing.
51:54 "The money system, for practical purposes, is really a heterogeneous bunch of mainframes running old COBOL ... literally ... in batch mode." I've never heard anyone put all this together so succinctly. Thank you, Elon.
@@Johnny1.0 lol he was Paypal founder, he's talking about the literal U.S dollar. The fact that you would confuse that with blockchain means you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
Just love it! So so many good insights, deep and true quotes for life & mindset and a lot of good and interesting perspectives for the future. Thank you Lex for this podcast and your well chosen questions 🙂greetings and cheers from germany!
