A vet in the UK reported recently been on the fad for breeding exaggerated dish faces. The muzzles get smaller but the teeth don't. She's regularly seeing horses who just don't have space in their mouths for all the adult teeth. Teeth are forced to grow sideways or into the roof of the mouth. And because horses often hide pain, it can be a long time before the owner notices something wrong with the young horse. By then, the horse needs expensive and risky dental surgery and in some cases, has to be put to sleep.
GFSTaylor ....thk you...yes its said to see ppl who overbreed a special conformation trait until total disfigurement is the "desired" outcome... these Poor horses cant even graze properly...
After watching this vid and reading all the comments, I started poking around the web and found this downloadable PDF from Desert Heritage Magazine, on this apparently very controversial subject: www.desertheritagemagazine.com/NEW/articles/heritage/45-30-03-2018-oster-teste.pdf I've had two Arabian horses since 1991 and have been studying the breed characteristics and conformation all that time. I learned plenty from the article and so could a lot of people who have commented here. The controversy will rage on I'm sure. My first Arab gelding had a lovely head. He was an all American Arabian horse. His breeding was Egyptian, Polish and Crabbet (English breeder farm). I had his registration papers and pedigree. He was very well bred and drop-dead gorgeous, everyone that met him thought that. His head was absolutely Arabian but not at all extreme. He had a obvious but subdued "jibbah" which formed the "dish" starting just below his eyes, not an ultra-angular bend just above the nostrils. He looked a lot like his handsome sire and his dam was very feminine and beautiful. Neither had an unusually dished face. Number two "son" has a less prominent jibbah, but he's an old-fashioned Arab type, being smaller and more compact. He's just plain old cute and cuddly, a different strain of breeding, of which I have no knowledge. I never got papers for him nor a copy of his pedigree. If you have an Arabian horse or just really love the breed you will enjoy this article.
These heads are extreme and obviously the product of selective breeding (I noticed that Emerald J has been line-bred with the same stallion a generation apart in both sire and dam lines) and it is wrong. The Arab head was noted for the prominent Mitbah or pronounced forehead that led to a dished muzzle but not to this extreme. There are photographs of Arabian horses that are direct from the desert and their heads are almost straight. I fear that western breeding, which concentrates on the stallion, will ruin the Arabian breed when traditionally it was the mare that was considered the more important component.
I know right!! so stunning!! and yes he can Breath properly. Arabs are bred like this. a lot of people are shocked but it's one of the Arab trademarks.
This is a picture of Cass Ole, the original Black Stallion, who was considered the perfect Arabian in his day. Compare and contrast. margaretgunnng.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-original-black-stallion.html
After watching this vid and reading all the comments, I started poking around the web and found this excellent and downloadable PDF from Desert Heritage Magazine, on this apparently very controversial subject: www.desertheritagemagazine.com/NEW/articles/heritage/45-30-03-2018-oster-teste.pdf I've had two Arabian horses since 1991 and have been studying the breed characteristics and conformation all that time. I learned plenty from the article and so could a lot of people who have commented here. The controversy will rage on I'm sure. My first Arab gelding had a lovely head. He was an all American Arabian horse. His breeding was Egyptian, Polish and Crabbet (English breeder farm). I had his registration papers and pedigree. He was very well bred and drop-dead gorgeous, everyone that met him thought that. His head was absolutely Arabian but not at all extreme. He had a obvious but subdued "jibbah" which formed the "dish" starting just below his eyes, not a ultra-angular bend just above the nostrils. Number two "son" has a less prominent jibbah, but he's an old-fashioned Arab type, being smaller and more compact. He's just plain old cute and cuddly, a different strain of breeding, of which I have no knowledge. I never got papers for him nor a copy of his pedigree. If you have an Arabian horse or just really love the breed you will enjoy this article.
Arabian horses naturally have a dished head i agree his dish is a deeper than i like but i am raised with the polish lines with the arabs and their heads are not that dished but they are still dished but other wise he is a gorgeous stallion and i would like to see more of him bred in the future
When will you Homo sapiens learn that human breeding is always superior to that of the Great Designer and that the ‘seahorse ‘ face is finally being chisled down to what I meant for it to be all along! Be patient earthlings “I ain’t done yet!!! “ Am only kidding folks. My heart is broken when I see what has become/is becoming of the beautiful Arabian! Not one single breed has been created so perfectly. God Almighty really does know best!!!!!!
I strongly agree the current halter type is exaggerated to the point sometimes of deformity, but you are ignoring an important fact: the *original* Arabian type was ALSO a human creation. It was artificially selected for by the Bedouin for many centuries. It was not the creation of God or the product of evolution/natural selection. (The same is true for the vast majority of equine breeds, and breeds of other domesticated animals.) But the Bedouin were selecting for practical usage as well as beauty. They wanted a desert war horse, with speed and endurance and durability. Form followed function. Similar is going on in many dog breeds. Breeds whose appearance was once the product of function (hunting, herding, draft work, etc.) are now bred purely for appearance, with hardly a thought to the dog's original function. German shepherds were once a superb all-around working dog. Now some of the frog-backed show GSDs hobble around the ring. Working GSDs still are bred, however, just as sport-horse type Arabians are.
Think hes a beautiful creature but why do they breed these horses who faces look like theyve been stuck in a pot of Vaseline....sorry just looks strange....😃
Because they are beautiful, you see the Arabian people have long nose and it makes since that's why they are called the Arabian horse btw nothing is strange by the creation of God,OKAY!
yea some people put baby oil on their horses faces to make them shiny for shows and pictures. arabians can be very spicy horses and i think it suits them well lmao!
a few sad remarks to have bothered to look at ancient drawings it looked to me like they went to great lengths to show the obvious difference between the Arab and what ever breed you care to name,my family had one for a short time had the pleasure of ridding him lots of power and state of the art breaking system that was 50 odd years ago what has changed?
He is beautiful but the oil bath on his face is totally unnecessary. Horses are NOT people. They don't need makeup. Just be a student of the breed and learn correct conformation and you will breed beautiful horses.
L'eccessiva depressione della canna nasale si manifesta, appunto, come un "eccesso", indotto dalla selezione. L'arabo rappresenta la perfezione; il rischio che le "bizze" dei selettori possano apportare danni alla caratteristica del cavallo, non e campato in aria.
The one thing i dislike about this stallion is the marwan line but other than that he is a gorgeous stallion and i really like his lines and his conformation
I used to not like this face shape but it is starting to grow on me. It almost looks more natural than the standard small nostrils and huge jaw and oversized heads of the american horses and all other breeds really. Its alien to americans as we are raised on weird looking horses who all have health problems for being inbred.
The head .....something about it. Can't dispute the monetary value of the Arabians due to hype and taste, I prefer the toned-down version of a Friesian such as famous Frederik the Great. Look him up! That to me is harmony and perfection !
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