EMERGENCY WATER RESERVE PUMPING SOLUTION! - TIMBERBORN Update 6 HARD Ep 53 

37:08 what overflow dont the pumps stop at .99 hight of the last tile anyways? @Skye Storme

Personally I would enjoy a research video about testing evaporation and other stuff. I would also enjoy the comment section being dear Skye, you know nothing😂

Dear Skye, (in scouser accent) Ppl tell ya less talk more build obviously don't understand the Joy of a good Story Teller. Story Tellers are dime a dozen rnd my ways 😉 but you beat them by a mile , please don't stop 😊

1:35 how abot a3 overhang and dynamiting that 1 tile in themiddle of the stairs 1 down so it fits level wise? @Skye Storme

So, the evaporation discussion prompted me to load up my water testing world I've ignored for the past few months. it will depend on how long your channel is an if it dead ends or goes to water.... but 1 wide gets you almost 4 days per tile depth 2 wide gets you about 8 days per tile depth 3 wide gets you about 15 days per tile depth 4 and 5 wide do slightly better than 3, but you are on a curve with little extra return. each square is evaluated for what is around it so your edges are where your evap are. What is more interesting is that you will get far more evaporation if there is 1 block of dirt, then air on the other side of it. the algorithm is not just looking at what is next to your block but what is beyond that. So aqueducts or raised channels lose more than creeks and rivers.

I like the talking, Its what makes you different from just a gaming channel that anyone could find. Love you both xxx

I think the stepped design for the pumps looks good, and resembles a beaver's tail. As to those who say you talk too much... I say tie them to a metal block and chuck 'em into Archie! Your commentary is half the fun of these videos! I mean, what's the point of a beaver-themed video like an episode of Timberborn without the myriad of ways you make us laugh? And if you aren't making US laugh, you're making _PICTURE_ laugh, and her laugh is simply musical! Don't change a bloody thing!

on that stair thingy with platforms put a 3x1 overhang on the last level and it will look cleaner without the platforms

1:39 could you put in an overhang to get to Archie, by dynamiting the top block on the stairs?

17:05 Bridges work in both directions, why did you have to demolish and rebuild them in the other direction?

→ 1:30 "I can't put a bridge from either side" - I guess you could dynamite it one down and put in a 3×1 platform? → 10:20 With the stepped approach you could have fitted in the additional pumps by making some of the steps just two wide, overlapping your pumps. (Though then the curve would be a bit less nice, I guess.) → 17:00 "I've actually got to demolis these and rebuild them facing the opposite way" - I think you could just have left the platforms, ripped out the bridges and added the small 2-length briges parallel to the wall. → 29:37 My approach here would be to let the bottom shaft stay straight (with a 3-way), and have the upwards shaft on the side. Needs one more platform, but I think it looks a bit cleaner. (I guess I'd even kept it at a single vertical shaft, plus an overhang.) → 35:46 "The problem with [the 3-wide-channel] is what do we do about the water that is trapped outside" - You already got your solution here: make that three-wide channel on the level where you have the exit of the reservoir, and pump into it from the main reservoir.

1:33 just remove the top block of dirt and use a 3x1 overhang or if you really want to keep the wooden look in that area in which case.... suffer? idk, i can't think either

"There is a third reason, but I have forgotten it." Skye Storme 2024

Time for a public evaporation demo. Evaporacing!🏎️

Thx for the content Skye! You are very funny and the amount of work you spend on it is showing! Also, it sounds to me the "evaporation" is actually "absoption to the surrounding ground". That would explain the increased loss with 1 wide channel rather than 3 wide channel .. Am I wrong?

Less build, more talk. F the haters.

Love the intro, great works lol. Sky dont burn your self out, we aren't going anywhere.

Dear Skye. More talking please 🙏 more tales of the holy potato, more tales of big and little ville, just more of that caramel voice! Thank you

dear skye, why i never learn ... why i always trust you we went from loads of talking about timberborn and no building to loads of talking about frostpuke and no building. i guess that's a good lesson to appreciate what you have and don't complain because it could be way worse ... ok skye ok ... lesson learnt

You do know that you are building a Cruise Ship outline for the beavers now. It even has two chimes. All aboard the Skye Cruise. ;-)

the patch notes gives a clear summary of the dimensions and what is their evaporation rate, how many days will the pond last. So I ran experiments and a single tile evaporates in between 2 and 3 days, regardless of being in the ground or in a box of levees completely sealed.

I don't believe that you really want to hear our comments. I think you just want any comments you can get to pump up the algorithm! Well I am on to you Mr. so called Skye!

You don’t need an overflow for the emergency damn because the pumps stop pumping when full

I really like the direction the peta-dam is going. It’s looking quite dapper

Definitely round off the dam corners.

Please dont stop the story time. I love the talking and information you give while playing. We can watch anybody play timberborn. I come here for the talking.

I come for the banter and story telling , as much as the building. Skye, take care of the life away from your channel, it's way more important. Thanks for all you do!!

i think its a really good idea i cant wait for it all to be finisheddddd

31:02 FINALLY 😂😂😂

Skye: "if I put the pumps on the other end we'll get twice as much water!!" Me: "WHAT!! NO YOU WON'T!" If you add twice as many pumps you'll just to the final level twice as fast. (Maybe with an extra tile or two because of evaporation.)

We got our Beaver shirts today! They are great. Thanks.

@17:00, you dont need to use bridges or wooden platform at all. Simply use Metal overhangs and stairs up the side of that wall onto the overhang. Then dynamite all the way down without worry. This applies to all of your pillar bridges in the dam.

The evaporation changes are funky to me. I’m not sure I understand the design choice of why a 1 tile strip will evaporate faster than one that’s 3 wide. If the explanation is that the water is evaporating- a given tiles evaporation should be independent of how many tiles it’s next to. If instead the explanation is the water “seeps into the ground” and isn’t evaporating, then that would make more sense. The more water tiles connected - the less surface area to tiles you have with respect to the ground And to clarify - that’s not to say I don’t believe there’s a difference. Specifically curious as to why there’s a difference design wise.

"People were like 'less talk, more building'" um yeah, well, there's a new thing you can do on youtube and it's called "Evil Deading It" or just skipping to the most important/interesting bits (I call it "Evil Deading it" because my dad was watching Evil Dead and skipped boring bits of it) Also, I agree that Frostpunk 2 is bad. I don't get why they didn't just follow the same formula but put a bit of a twist to it like population growth from births (like in banished)

Dear Skye, if you need a day or two off please rest. We will be okay. Your and ( Picture’s) mental and physical health is important!

Regarding the issue with the double stairs between the reservoir and Archie, you could just dynamite the top tile from the stairs and put an overhang in place of a bridge. As far as the emergency reserve is concerned, why don't you just have sluice gates at the bottom set to feed back into the main reservoir at low enough levels? Would save the extra channel and all the crazy other stuff you'd need and should work fine.

Dear Skye So-Called Storme, I am outraged at all the building and lack of talking. I hope the devs implement reduced evaporation when the water is under something like a levee or impermeable floor (Hope you liked the Top Gear reference.)

Thou shall create the sacred water channel three tiles wide. Beavers I say unto you. When thou lay thy holy dynamite upon the earth. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then and only then shall ye place thy holy dynamite. And the Lord shall grin and cause many boom booms across the land. Thy waters shall flow and there will be much rejoicing.

Evaporation leaves me with so many questions. seems only the top layer evaporates but wat is seen as top layer? If you create 10x10x10 box and that goes into 3x3 schaft on top of that box, wil then only the 3x3 shaft evaporate since that is the top layer of this water body. Or is the remaining water in the box also be seen as top layer? And does the top layer need to be exposed to air or wil it also evaporate when in a closed of box? I would not mind seeing more details about this at some point. Still love your videos, just make sure not to overdo it you seem to have a habit of making long days.

At 01:30 where you're not happy with those two platform stacks, you could use a single dynamite on the staircase side then put an overhang to bridge the gap, which would also raise the bit between the staircases back to the right level. It gets rid of those two stacks of platforms and all it costs is the tip of the triangle, and really how important is the tip?

Dear Skye *angry typing noises* I cannot believe you have gone two whole episodes without putting lanterns in the corners of Veronica and Jughead's outflow towers. Disgraceful. *Smashes keyboard*

Power to the pumps I would have replaced one straight shaft to a three way facing forward, then buil the upwards shaft to the level of the pump and brought it over via platforms or an overhang. It would make a square shape and you wouldn't need all the shaft corners. I know it makes no difference in the game, but it still bugs me that it would be inefficient physics wise. But it's just my personal pet peeve

Dear Skye, to connect the pumps to power, didn't you in an earlier video show power going down through impermeable tile? Then you could route power underneath your channel directly to the pumps?

For the channel across the bottom of the reservoir, couldn’t you make the sides out of sluices pointing *in* to the channel? Water will flow from the reservoir into the channel but not out in an emergency.

you don't need no F'n OVERFLOW - your water input is highly controlled by the very smart pumps! so many have said this.

Well, since you asked for feedback: I'd have liked the pumps to be staggered a little bit closer with overlap. You'd be able to put like 9 pumps there!

When I only use 3x3 x 1 watering holes and don't have any biobeavers, only one source water pump can oversupply all water needs for trees for hundreds of beaverbots. There doesn't appear to be much, if any, evaporation and no loss or use from the watered land with trees on it.

Dear Skye, You mentioned that you did not like the staircase/platform bit at the start of the video and can't get rid of it because they need it to travel bot ways. Would that be a viable spot to put a double helix staircase? you could put some platforms up the middle with lights or bushes on to make it look all pretty and everything.

Maybe you need to demonstrate the 1 tile evaporation compared to the 3 tile. Then again there may already be videos or shorts showing the difference im effectiveness.

Only thing I can find about evaporation is stating that it evaporates at a rate of .045 per day and a full tile will evaporate within 22 days. So who knows without dev notes :D

2 marvels of Beaver Engineering. Archie & Family, and now the Emergency Resrrvoir. You never cease to amaze me with your designs.

15:18 I’m just thinking about the pumps that Skye will put in soon, now that they can be overlapped, does that mean he can fit the eight he said it needed ? Maybe even more, as they can be overlapped now?

Skye has officially lost it. Adulting and video gaming in the same day was to much. The talking to working ratio continues to be way down.

You can probably SEAL THE DAM FROM THE TOP - that'll stop the evaporation. You can also reuse the space for something else

How long does it take Skye to lay some dynamite? Well, that depends. Is he going to talk about 5 or 15 unrelated things after he starts? :D

Why couldn't you have left the bridges and platforms in? I think the beavers and go both ways on the bridge you Lemon. lol

Put in stream gauges in the emergency storage...so u kno exactly...u might have to add soil every now and then bc it's so deep

Love the step design, and your power solution was very smart. But do you really need an overflow? Won’t the pumps shut off when the water gets too high?

Dear Skye, I have only watched the first minute, but I already feel that you need to do more talking and less building in the upcoming episodes.

With the path section you hate.. 1 lvl tnt.. Replace the dirt block with a 3 long platform, rip out the foundations.. 💚

Will the last 0.2 water come out of the middle of the arch? I know you don't care if you lose out on it. But it might look cool falling into the fountain

Took me this long to realize this...with Archie, I believe Skye may have unlocked perpetual motion.

It's starting to look like a cruiseship in the middle of all the water. Pointy bow in front, 2 steamtowers. 😅

So I think the stepped design for the pumps look really good and that a rounded edge for the main tank might be fun. Also I like hearing your thoughts on the reasons you do stuff. Fun episode.

What if you created a double Archie? Put a fresh water reservoir on the top of the Badwater? Is that even possible?

Why did you make the channel so deep where youre going to pump. Since youre only pumping the top tile, wouldnt it be better to leave it higher?

This whole water thing has blown my mind, admittedly my mind is on the smaller side but all the same, I lived for single block water ways.

You don’t need overflow in the emergency water storage. Those pumps shut off when full.

1:24 just blow up the middle piece and replace the platforms by a 3x1 overhang

2nd staircase connection to Archie: just remove the top block of dirt and put in an overhang. Much nicer ❤

as a fan I appreciate the daily uploads, your videos really are a highlight of my daily routine but if life gets in the way it is what it is, don't let us get in your way

35:34 Instead of a 3 wide channel going all the way to that one sluice gate, just add another sluice gate that directly feeds the river system!

Question: if you cover water with platforms and impermeable tiles, does it evaporate?

You could replace your platform connection from the builders to Archie with a helix staircase

1:30 Why not put one of your fancy spiral staircases there, and have it also connect both sides of the damn/archie.

Doing things in a rush ends up (for me at least) take more time and frustration on the level the heart tends to not take very well 🐢 wins the race

Just test the evaporation out by building channels of various widths ?

And now you HAVE to do another round Frostpunk with that statement! 😜

For those who do not believe you, make a simple flat map to demonstrate the evaporation rate issues.

Dear Skye. How about using spiral stairs between the new dam and archie?

would it be a good idea to put pumps between the two reservoirs to reduce evaporation when/if the water gets low?

I went through all your episodes of frostpunk again... amazing stuff

lul " we have no time" then doing nothing while talking abuot frostpunk for an eternety oO

You do not need an overflow for the emergency reserve. The pumps wont pump if they reach the full tile. Reservoirs should be perfect squares IMO, every edge increases evaporation.

0:07 Jebus! Skye's got so little time, we didn't even get a title card 😮

since you curved the pumps you can fit more in by overlapping their edges

Stepped design is much better i like it btw i like the long talks and rants talk away

I enjoy all the little backstories and the explaining of the game.

I still remember that *Skye left children in the cave* like a heartless tyrant to die a insignificant death in Frostpunk.

Im a bit confused, because when i played the first time they changed evaporation i was reading posts about how having square reservoirs being better and how the bigger the surface area is the less evaporation and i had a playthrough where i basically ONLY used straight lines/ squares for reservoirs aqueducts terrain farms everything

I was trying on dev mode now, by the time a 3x3 reservoir drops down 1,5 tiles, a 6x6 reservoir drops 1 tile Considering that a a 6x6 reservoir is the same as joining 4 3x3 reservoir, aparently larger is better

Dynamite down one and put an overhang into Archie instead of all those platforms?

play are double speed - skye talking normally all through it.

shaping the moated fortress just like a BOAT!

I just imagine a furious typing beaver in Skyes minds eye

Dear Skye, whiskey tango foxtrot! That is all😊

1:33 you can take out that terrain tile and put a 3 long overhang as a bridge

instead of a bridge could you dynamite a tile and put in a platform?

17:15 wouldn't you built those bridges the outer wall was not there

1:24 Blast one tile by the stairs and put in a #3 platform.