You want a perfect scenario, imagine you're caught by a county sheriff (elected politician), prosecuted by a state's attorney (elected politician), and judged by a county/circuit Judge (elected politician) and think that you're going to get a fair trial.
Add Red State vs Blue State into the mix and half the country is screwed by the other half. If you are color A in color B state with color A judge, take the bench trial. If you are color A in color A state with color B judge, take the jury trial. If you are color A in color B state with color B judge, um, good luck with that.
I used to be rather against the death penalty until a man ALMOST murdered my daughter. Fortunately, she's alive, but I now know I could have pulled the switch on him myself if he had killed her.
@@morgang5666 I'm not for it at all. I would rather see them live out their days in misery, kept isolated in a bare cell with little human contact, and with nothing to entertain them but books. Give them a lifetime to reflect on what they've done.
yes, of course you would of, i would to, that is why we don't let close relatives of the victims decide the guilty persons fate.. and death is too easy better they suffer for decades in horrible conditions and then if there has been a mistake that comes out at least they can be released
I believe in the capital punishment for certain crimes, but my concern now is “what if the person is innocent, what if a person does not get a fair trial which can easily happen in this corrupt world we now live in?”
Agreed. I think before DNA, it may have been possible that some may have been innocent. But now a day's, that may be a little hard to do. I believe we need to usher those out of this world by the same means they used against the victims.
It’s rare but sadly it does happen where an innocent person is proven innocent years after their execution. Personally I think they should be absolutely sure the person committed the crime before signing that death warrant. With todays science, we might be able to save people before the execution takes place.
@@kaylajohns5301 What's NOT rare is people being put in death row and then exonerated before execution. The standard shouldn't be whether or not innocents are being executed. It should be whether innocents are being convicted in the first place.
My parents never knew their fathers, I didn’t have a grandfather. I worked at a law firm at the time. My son, if you found out your grandfather was on death row what would you do. Probably the same thing hoping for better results upon reviewing the case.
Persia Watson He sure is, but I hate when one of my favorite actor's get killed off in a movie...I always end up rooting for them even if they are playing a bad guy.
That’s cyanide gas asphyxiation, not the painless, peaceful, and humane death resulting from inert gas (helium, nitrogen, etc) asphyxiation. Not all gas has same effect. Nerve agents, particularly, are incredibly torturous - by design.
A gas chamber executioner from Missouri was described to instruct the condemned that if they desired to take the last breath, then they should wait until they heard the audible "thump" of the canister being opened before exposure. Despite the hopelessness, they all tried to hold their breath.
No, few people really ever tried holding their breath, most followed the advice given to them to breathe in deep when the gas hit their face to get it over with as soon as possible. The problem in most cases wasn't that they were holding their breath, it was that the gas was strangling them. Some went down easy and lost consciousness fairly quickly but most would writhe in pain for 1-3 minutes before unconsciousness finally set in; it really was quite random the effect the gas had on people. In those cases where the person died hard, the newspapers tended to claim the person was holding their breath as an easy excuse to explain what went wrong, presumably to avoid embarrassing prison authorities. It wasn't until the 90s did the gas chamber finally be covered honestly. All it took was 4 executions for the ugly truth to be revealed, 2 in California, 1 in Arizona and 1 in North Carolina between 1992-94. The public uproar it caused led to states legislating the gas chamber out of existence except for those who foolishly choose to die that way.
@@lgmx-peacekeeper3204 The problem is gas concentration and wrong design. You can't expect a slowly rising concentration of any poisnous gas to kill fast - look up toxic exponent and how gasses kill. OTOH if the gas was already a gas and injected in at once, the man would go unconscious within 20 seconds.
I see now. Like it was described earlier, the distance between the death house to the execution chamber is just a few steps away, the longest walk a condemned prisoner may undergo during the last minutes of existence before going to the world beyond the seas.
suzycreamcheesez George stingey junior he was executed for the murder of two teenage girls but then was exonerated(found innocent) 70 years later. He was 14 when he was executed
This scene actually isn’t sad. It’s actually bittersweet in my opinion. Sam Cayhall actually gets executed for a crime he technically didn’t commit. He may have been involved in blowing up the building but he didn’t create the bomb or set it off, nor was it his intention to kill the kids. Even though thanks to his grandson Adam, his brother and partner in crime Rallo Wedge is unmasked as the man responsible for killing the children, in the eyes of the law Sam was still involved, and ends up facing death via the gas chamber.
That makes no sense because the death penalty is for first degree murder. This was-at best-voluntary manslaughter, which isn’t severe enough to warrant a life sentence in some cases, let alone the capital punishment. May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.
@@NazmusLabs No, it falls under the felony murder statue: If an offender kills (regardless of intent to kill) in the commission of a dangerous or enumerated crime, the offender, and also the offender's accomplices or co-conspirators, may be found guilty of murder.
Last month, a man in Lake County, Illinois, shot and killed a 14-year-old boy. The boy, who was Black, was one of six teenagers accused of trying to steal a car out of the man’s driveway late one night. The man, a white 75-year-old, said he fired shots out of fear. He was not arrested or charged in the boy’s death. Instead, the Lake County state’s attorney charged all five surviving teenagers with first-degree murder. And his request that they be held on $1 million bail was granted. Imagine being charge for a murder you didn’t commit 😂
Even though it's only a movie, I wonder how the actors feel walking in the gas chamber, the electric chair room or to the bed for lethal injection, knowing how other's like the one they may be portraying have done in real life.
@@MontgomeryMall hi at the penitentiary in Jefferson City? I live in Missouri but I haven’t made it there yet, hopefully I’ll be able to go this summer, This dang pandemic has stopped me for the last two years .
@@theresareynolds3133 Yes best to get there as soon as possible. The Missouri State Penitentiary site in Jefferson City is soon going to be redeveloped and the penitentiary footprint significantly reduced. The gas chamber will be relocated as well.
Among my fave films of his is. I Never Sang for my Father. Hackman at 91 is enjoying retirement, rides a bike and living the good life. Remarkable actor.
Think of the terror of being "hanged, drawned, and quartered?" The executioners at that time had to perform the actual hanging, but not enough to kill him, the castration, disembowelment while still alive, and end of the agony by beheading the victim. The rest of the limbs are then dismembered, and the head attached to the end of a pike. I can't think of a more barbaric execution.
Should play Iron Maiden's song : Hallowed Be Thy Name " When the priest comes to read me the last rites. I take a look at the bars for the last sight. Of a world that has gone very wrong for me"
I am a survivor of a violent crime. The intruder tried to kill my whole family. I almost died; I was 7. My Mom did die. Despite living with horrible complex ptsd , being ,without my Mom, I cannot condone the death penalty except in rare cases. Too many innocent people die and the punishment is mostly inhumane as well. I can’t tell others how to grieve or what kind of punishment they should request; I jam acutely aware after 40 plus years the price is often paid by the innocent. I can’t abide the archaic punishments doled out by a broken system.
If you don't mind my asking, what would those rare cases consist of? Special circumstances are required for death penalty cases. The problem with life sentences is as long as they're breathing, there's a chance they could walk among us again. The U.S. was the first & only country to find more humane & quick methods & on average it takes more than 15 years to execute a prisoner, longer than other countries, if it happens at all. Some countries execute citizens for ordinary crimes. I do think there needs to be some changes but I also know that this issue is being used as propaganda for several organizations & nothing will ever change until we all get on the same page with the real facts for the right reasons. No human system is perfect but I definitely prefer ours where I know I won't be buried to my shoulders & stoned for refusing to marry my rapist.
If I was a juror on a capital crime trial, I could not vote for his death because it is proven over the years that some innocent people died for crimes they did not commit. Is that when we become murderers?
It is estimated that ten percent of those on death row are completely innocent. Rather recently, Texas executed a man whose guilt was highly questionable and was ultimately proven innocent. Reason enough to be against the death penalty.
why not just save it for the serial killers and the rapists and the drug lords? Sometimes rehabilitation is never going to happen because some of them are proud of their criminal history. They know they're not going to be released then it becomes a matter of stopping them from victimizing someone else if they ever escape or if they get access to the Internet
@@tractorfeed7602 naw, drug lords are just a byproduct of our system, let's execute bankers and politicians we can include rapists and child molesters if you want
@Dakota Matos death penalty is wrong no matter what, keep it for treason and that's all it should be for also if you're so obsessed with the death penalty use it on people that are afraid to die, like corrupt politicians or crooked bankers not fucking murderers lol
@@samuelaceves7521 drug lords are a byproduct of our system? They're just more people who exploit other people. How come you don't categorize them in the same boat with corrupt politicians and crooked bankers? Just because you're born in a poor family or grow up around the drug trade, doesn't mean you have to go into the family business
Imagine if it was you who had to strap that person in and throw the switch. Can your feelings of revence match the terror of having to end a person's life? Can you evere get rid of the doubt that maybe they where innocent? Are you really as cruel as the guy you're killing?
@@vinny142 with dna evidence the chances of executing innocent people are reduced exponentially. Working in corrections for 15 yrs has shown me that people are mean, cold, and calculating. No, I can guarantee you there are plenty of those who would volunteer to throw the switch, squeeze the syringe, drop the trap door, or pull the trigger. And they would have zero remorse, probably go play four games of handball. Now that might sound cold and cruel to a person like you but considering the expense of keeping them in prison, the free medical, dental, optometry, legal, recreational, and educational benefits, you might see the burden on law abiding taxpayers but if not then consider this. That murderer will probably kill another offender while incarcerated. If that offender, forbid, would somehow escape or be paroled, he would probably kill again especially if he can't/won't work. Think about the victim's survivors, what they endure with the loss of their loved ones. Funny how that receives the least amount of attention. No, I can guarantee you there are many people who would execute without any problem of remorse.
What an absolutely horrendous and cruel way to die. It's like strangling without a rope. And Gene Hackman is such a master actor, his body language and facial expressions make us feel the sheer terror that his character is experiencing as the guards slam and seal the heavy door, the valves open, the old mechanical equipment goes clunk, and the poison gas starts hissing and rising around him.
look at the chamber equipment and procedures used to kill one man....now why am i skeptical regarding 100s/1000s of people being alleged killed at the same time in a brick room with a wooden door by a man tipping the pellets onto a cold floor from a ladder on the roof
About cyanide - I had moderate inhalation cyanide poisoning that made me feel groggy & lightheaded, lips & fingernails turned blue - but it was not painful. Concentration was obviously low; it didn't make it terribly hard to breath . We got outside as soon as one of us noticed the color change, and a doctor later said it would have made us fall asleep before we felt like we were suffocating... and THEN we'd have never awakened. Cause: tomcat had been spraying the space heater all summer, autumn came, we got cold and turned the heater on - I don't know the exact chemistry. We just thought the stink would burn off.
I support the death penalty but only when it's the result of a confession and guilt has been established that is irrefutable...one innocent man dieing is absolutely unacceptable. That being said we shouldn't forget the horrible deaths that murders dole out and be squeamish about giving out the appropriate punishment when called for.
So you support coerced confessions by ambitious law enforcement and pseudoscience touted as "irrefutable" in government-sanctioned murder? "But only" when it meats your easily corruptible benchmarks so your sense of vengeance can be excused as justice, right?
@@londonwerewolves poor little snowflake... No I do not support coerced confessions but I do believe that when there's proof beyond doubt the ultimate penalty IS called for. Besides... When you throw away a person for 20...25 years and then let them out what the hell are they going to do? At that point they are institutionalized and most likely never be able to adjust to life on the outside. But beyond all that when someone's been found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt then...yeah...if the death penalty is called for it should be given. Karla Holmoka... Paul Bernardo... Clifford Olsen... Vincent Lee(the guy who cut off the kids head on the Greyhound)...and I could go on and on. Just because you are too squeamish to do what needs do...don't try to shame the ones who will do what needs do our supports it.
Probably to keep the body from thrashing around. The body reacts quite violently when it's being attacked by chemical agents. Involuntary muscle spasms, motor control goes haywire.
That's a thoughtful comment. However, people have been ''charged'' with committing things like this, that doesn't mean that they did something wrong. Infact, there have been some people sentenced to death row that haven't done anything wrong. Don't you also feel pity for those who were wrongly judged?
No one truly innocent has been executed. That is impossible. You can try but nobody is going to believe it. And mistakes do happen and people are hurt. But you can't get rid of something useful because mistakes are made. You Thems have ulterior motives.
Our whole lives we are taught that just because someone does something to you, doesn’t mean you do it back to them. There isn’t a justifiable murder. Death penalty is often paired with anger and emotion, understandably. Be it a murder in a fit of rage or death sentence , it’s all the same. It just depends on who’s doing the killing that makes it “legal” or “justifiable.”
why not just save it for the serial killers and the rapists and the ones who are proud of their criminal records? Because sometimes rehabilitation is never going to happen and then it's not a matter of anger and emotion but a matter of stopping them from victimizing someone else if they ever escape or get released
You know something, bud? When there is a food shortage or just a general period of financial desperation, peacenik fools like you are the first targets for a raiding party looking for food and valuables to loot.
When Britain had capital punishment, the nation's last hangman Albert Pierrepoint had a record of 7 seconds from the moment someone stepped in the room to the time of death.
You correct about his record being swift. However Pierrepoint was not U.K. final hangman. He retired, or was retired in the 50’s and they had capital punishment until the 70’s. Harry Allen May have been the last, but not positive. No doubt Peirrepoint perfected the technique and was the best known hangman, but not the last.
I find that horrific. There is no dignity in being rushed through a door onto the gallows. I would prefer to walk under my own steam and be asked and able to say my final words.
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns I know the difference between the two types of hanging - strangulation v breaking the neck. The point I was making is that Pierrepoint would enter the cell, rush the condemned out into the cell with the gallows, pinion them and pull the the lever. He did it in 7 seconds for one poor bastard. Frankly I find that horrific. To me there is more dignity in allowing the condemned to walk unaided, allow themselves to compose themselves.allow them to said a few words or to pray if they wished, before the hood was placed over their head and the lever pulled.
@@brontewcat Not blaming you, but someone deleted my reply. I didn't use any naughty words, except "Notsi," but it wouldn't surprise me if the censorious shitheads of YT had their robot automatically delete it.
CLIP TAKEN FROM THE MOVIE... "The Chamber" is a 1996 crime thriller film based on John Grisham's novel of the same name. The film was directed by James Foley and stars Gene Hackman and Chris O'Donnell. (Wikipedia)
@Never Alone And yet you promote murdering babies ? Hitler loved the idea of murdering babies and children ! in his mind it gets rid of the other races ! Watch a Nazi take a baby by its feet and slam it against a brick wall in front of its mother or shoot a child in back of the neck and watch its little limp body fall into a ravine crippled but not dead but dies slowly as dirt is pilled on top it and others ! Watch as Nazis toss a baby into the air to see who can shoot it best ! God ? Where ?
Imagine the sheer horror and terror of the victims, they did nothing wrong, and one person decided to play judge jury, torturer and executioner to satisfy their lust for murder. Yet when caught screem unfair trial, beg for stays, etc etc..
Very accurate. This was filmed at Mississippi State Prison in Parchman, Ms. This is the actual gas chamber. It's still there, however a lethal injection room was built right next to it.
@larsliamvilhelmit’s likely happened, including some executions in recent history. I’m not saying it’s common. But statistically speaking, it’s hard to come to any other conclusion.
"And some people says that the gas chamber is a painless, humane and clean way to die?" - I've never, ever heard anyone claim that. That is the exact definition of a "straw man" argument: arguing against a claim that has never been made.
Yes they do this to stun pigs in a gas chamber and they also call it humane !!! That's one of the reasons I am a vegan!!! We don't have to torture no one and try to make a better world for us all
Ah dude hugged his lawyer bye.. The warden read the death warrant. I took some spanish in highschool and common sense wherever I go. Good clip I figured out what was going on without english. This was the execution of Gene Hackman's stunt Double by gas chamber, which he was sentenced for filming the terrible movie "Lucky Lady" in 1975.
No, because of the number of people found to be wrongfully sentenced to death. There is a reason that we have an appeals process in this country, an it's to root out the wrongfully convicted and those who were sentenced inappropriately. Of the people initially sentenced to death, about half end up getting some form of commutation to Life imprisonmen due to issues found in their cases. Some are found to have been innocent of the crime altogether on new evidence and get out of prison entirely. Your 'philosophy' on the subject would result in many people being wrongfully executed.
@Jules Winnfield So just screw the innocent ones and kill them along with the guilty just for kicks? Sounds like the wartime atrocities: murder everyone in the village because one person shot at your people. Not only a ludicrous view, but horrific.
Looking at movies like these makes me pissed in my pants and shiver to my skin falls off and it makes me be even more grateful that my grandmother and my mama whoop my butt when I did something wrong so they make sure I did not go down the wrong path
"an eye for in eye" [sic]... this isn't the biblical times, where fucking, brown arabs stone people to death! Capital punishment. Sure. But on a human level and in a humane way, that befits a modern, western society... not by poisoning, burning, strangling or suffocating people to death. Unless we want to sink back to the level of some Zulus who want revenge on account of their wrathful deity...
@Les Moore This option was considered, but deemed as "too bloody". Trust me, before being gas-chambered, fried or poisoned, I'd jump on a Guillotine and pull the lever myself. The other option offered was hypoxia. Quick, painless and the delinquent literally passes out in a state of euphoria. And again, the "eye for an eye"-freaks refused it. And, to a certain point, I can even grant their reasoning. If some ahole maimed, tortured and beat his victim's head in with a crowbar, why grant him a painless death, without "the punishment factor"? The answer is simple: because the point of capital punishment, in a civil society, should be to remove a guilty, useless and potentially dangerous individual from society altogether. However, if it's vengeance you want, than do it yourself. Hand the victim's relatives blades or a punch of stones, because - as a member of a civil society - I want no part in it. Take the recent n-riots: A crime was committed and the perpetrator will be convicted for what he did. Whether the victim was a thug (which he was), plays no role. Justice will be served. However, that rioting, looting and burning mob, don't seek justice.. they seek vengeance, for purely opportunistic reasons. There is "right and wrong" and there is "wrong and wrong".
Where is it written that a pain free execution is the right of every condemed man? The constitutional exclusion is "cruel and unusual." Let me tell you, every execution method involves pain and heartache. If you can't stand this, don't get into situations where the State will end your life. The US has a troubled capital punishment system. We allow killing but also allow interminable delays. Meaning, a death row inmate can be alive for decades before all the BS lawyering ends.
titaniumsandwedge. Thankfully you're not calling the shots. The bullshit lawyering has spared a lot of wrongly accused. Better stick to the fairway Buddy.
That's almost as bad as getting on an elevator with someone who had too many bean burritos at noon - it's a forty-story plummet into the very bowels of hell.
Not in the eyes of the western civilizations. People here seem to enjoy executions that go painfully wrong. That feeling of satisfaction highlights their compassionate christian upbringing.
There's a video where a innocent man was executed by the gas chamber. Later on the warden trys to apologize to the mother of the dead man . She screams at him and slapped his face. It was a RU-vid video that I wish I could find again. There are innocent people put to death and society needs to accept that our law system can murder in the name of justice
Too many people have been jailed and killed who were later found innocent to justify execution. If even one innocent person is executed by mistake that is one too many. I just don't think that something as fallible as the state should have the power of life and death.
jsldj He can do it, we cannot. It is a sin for us because we do it the wrong way. Killing them for example. The best vengeance is to have compassion. Romans 12-18:21
Who says that the gas chamber was painless? Nerve gas is awful. People are talking about using nitrogen gas now. That is painless. That’s a totally different thing. The air we breathe is 79% nitrogen anyway. 100% nitrogen just puts you to sleep peacefully and you die. I’m not for the death penalty I’m just pointing out that the two gases are in no way related
Of all the comments on here sympathizing with the inmate, why do I see none sympathizing with the victims of his crimes. Most of them died a far worse death than any of the methods of execution used in the United States. "Who sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed."
SFC Retired The most psychopathuc and none empathetic quote I have ever heard. They are people too. Nobody deserves death... Nobody except a few, a few... The worst, that is. Hitler? Hang him. Stalin? Hang him. But murderers... no.
So, you would free them to kill and rape again. I have no sympathy for those who commit these crimes. My sympathy is all for the victims and their families. All of which makes you far more of a monster than I.
Forgive, by all means. But that does not mean that crimes, especially the more heinous crimes, should go unpunished. "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto G*d the things that are G*d's." Mark 12:17. The state (Caesar) had the duty to protect the citizenry by removing, permanently if necessary, those who have shown by their actions that they are a threat to the public and are no respecters of either G*d's or man's law.
In real life you bleed in your lungs until your drown in your blood. I don't know what other horrors happen but you don't need a movie to show it's inhumane.
Even though they may be guilty they weren’t born to kill they could have been bullied and beaten all their life and nobody cared about them they could have suffered all this and wanted to stop which turned them to do this no body should die in any other way except death by age even though you think the people in prison deserve it no one does
There are some crime's that deserve the death penalty, no doubt about that. The problem that I have is, are we always executing the correct criminal, some times, due to faulty witness testimony, or whatever, the wrong person is arrested and convicted. So, if it's 10%, or if it's only 1%, I think it's enough to oppose the death penalty.
There's an even better reason (one that has been proven to be true btw): some jurors will not bring themselves to issue a guilty verdict when they know the death penalty is on the table, even if they believe the defendant to be guilty - they then get the subconscious feeling, like they're pushing the button that will kill the person, so they just can't do it. There are well documented cases of people who went free, even though the majority of the jury believed them to be the guilty perpetrators.
