Emperor's Children vs Space Wolves Horus Heresy 2.0 Battle Report EP 106

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@death1194 Год назад

“I’m not going to charge first turn” *proceed to charge and wipe a unit first turn*

@globoxx1625 Год назад

I watched this all the way through I’m honestly surprised you uploaded this one with lukas attitude. The opponent seemed like a great guy

@itssupermandoe2434 Год назад

I will forever be bugged when Luka and Steve complain about the exemplary units when 1. It's narrative, and 2. Only the iron warriors unit is actually undercost when compared to the basic units, let alone the Legion specific squads.

@imalu5757 Год назад

I feel the majority of them are underwhelming. There is definitely some strong picks in there though. *cough* ultramarines *cough*

@theADHDGames Год назад

This was a little much in terms of complaining about Sunkillers

@davidward3348 Год назад

Luka's first turn looked like the guy owed him lunch money

@olliewhant Год назад

So at 33:57 Luka rolls a 3+ armour save rolls a 2 then changes his mind to rolling on the Artificer armour, that feels a bit unfair …

@collinl5023 Год назад

Also yeah 10 Sun Killers is over 400 points. They really aren't anything to be up in arms about.

@Orlunu Год назад

it's at small sizes when they're objectively much better than HSS - but, then again, I don't think that should be a bad thing in itself

@Orlunu Год назад

The Exemplary Battles hate is really weird to me. People complain that it's got broken units in it as if there aren't multiple loyalist-legion-specific-breachers alone in the Liber Astartes book that compete with the very worst of them for gamebreaking. The system isn't balanced or well written in any way, shape, or form... that's not an Exemplary issue.

@Saidan79 Год назад

Squads like Dark Furies and Firedrakes are in most scenarios absolutely crazy good, yet they are entirely "legal". In one of his most recent batreps, Steve decided to as a test put two full Dark Fury squads against one squad of Firedrakes, both sides with some characters included. The result was a few dead Terminators and a huge pile of Dark Fury corpses.

@andrewbakescakes9684 Год назад

Um, Sunkillers are MUCH MORE expensive than a HSS with Lascannons. They are over-costed, not under-costed. They are 1.6 times the cost of a HSS bros with lascannon for additional dudes beyond the first 5, not 3 pts more. You could take a full HSS with attached tech-covenant guy for the +1BS for cheaper when going bigger squad sizes.

@trajanthegreat2928 Год назад

Yeah each marine is 11 points more in a Sunkiller squad than HHS in a 10 man squad. In a 5 man squad, it's 7 points more per model.

@andrewbakescakes9684 Год назад

@@trajanthegreat2928 - More proof that the HH unit costs need a major rebalancing. If Sunkillers were DA, BA, IF, or UM, they would be cheaper than their generic HSS counterparts while having even more insane rules.

@benbiddiss336 Год назад

Sunkillers aren’t overcosted, lascannon squads are under costed 😊

@andrewbakescakes9684 Год назад

@@benbiddiss336 - Well said! If HSS lascannons were closer to Sun Killers in points, they would be balanced. But so many things are unbalanced about HH 2.0, I really hope they address the worst offenders soon. Taking under-costed lascannons is often the best option against under-costed Contemptors.

@danielappleyard4701 Год назад

Yay Emperor's Children on deck🎉🎉

@globoxx1625 Год назад

When you use deathsworn stasis Bombs they have get hot

@andrewbakescakes9684 Год назад

Let's go Emperor's Children! Send those pups to the dog house!

@DemonAce18 Год назад

I don't think you lose Nineteen if you take the Blade of the Laer, because you only get a close combat weapon if you drop the Blade of the Laer. Also, due to the wording of the Duellist's Aegis I think you would still get +1 WS even if you use the Blade in a challenge.

@miked2232 5 месяцев назад

This is correct. Lucius ALWAYS has Nineteen, the choice is whether you want Blade of the Laer or a basic CCW.

@myrar8708 Год назад

Love the pinky EC YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo

@scottrubin4478 Год назад

My excitement at seeing Emperor's Children on the table was really squashed by Luka's terrible attitude about the Sun Killers, and I feel sorry for his opponent. If you can't handle a unit being played then just ban it; otherwise get over yourself and try to have some fun and excitement so the audience can actually enjoy the video.

@Red2Productions Год назад

Someone needs to check Luka’s dice, I swear he rolled so many clutch 5’s and 6’s.

@papanurgle9015 Год назад

This deployment just terrible Also whining about sunkillers while they cost a ton get real. Look at the truly broken stuff like suzerain and fulmentarus with literally 24 inch ranged thunderhammers that can potentially ignore los

@Stormbolter83 Год назад

The suzarian only have pistols. But I agree the fulmintaris plasma missiles are ridiculous

@papanurgle9015 Год назад

@@Stormbolter83 suzerain way undercosted. They have initiative ap2 axes, line, invulns and they are all characters they simply way too cheap for what they bring to the table

@Stormbolter83 Год назад

Yeah but in the last edition they were +1S as well so they were taken down alittle but every legion has that one unit that seems over powered. Plus very nice looking models 👌

@heckinmemes6430 Год назад

Ahh, I remember the last time I got hit in the Tacticles. It sucked.

@Gutterman-tn2ry Год назад

Honestly, I think it should be ruled that everyone but dreadnoughts cannot shoot weapons S7 or higher. Reactions are what make things like lascannon support squads, plasma squads, and melta bikes are toxic.

@ironwolvesproductions6283 Год назад

The unit that counter-charged the deathsworn should have made a disordered charge as per ymira stasis bombs.

@Christian2k02 Год назад

wish yall still would sprinkle new warmachine mk4 in here yall are just to good at these battles

@vojtaxxxxxxx Год назад

Well now, knowing how much Luka loves his close combat, it would be fun to play something like infantry WE vs SW so we get the melee goodness.

@hectorc7080 Год назад

Honestly, this kind of one sided reports are not fun to see. Avoid that deploymemt map at all cost, unless is a narrative mission

@seriousarmour Год назад

I might have just missed it in my sleep deprived state. But how did you scout move the vehicles at the start?

@kazoie1 Год назад

One of the abilities Lukas warlord had

@PvtCryan501 Год назад

You should know Luka, WintersSEO emperors children list has 10 sunkillers and an armistos attached and that pairing, for the most part, murders a unit turn.

@kurtl8425 Год назад

Scorpius firing indirectly from out of sight are a really effective counter for lascannon heavy squads.

@myrar8708 Год назад

People with such lists deserve my triple leviathan deep strike

@maliceharding4668 Год назад

@@myrar8708laughs in imperial fist

@seitom8849 Год назад

Ah I see, the deadly leaf blowers of the emperor´s children xP

@thomasscherz8093 Год назад

my god this EC player hurts my heart for doing such big play failures but i love EC

@kazoie1 Год назад

in my defence i have bearly played any games of HH lol but i didnt get much of a chance with the first turn luka got. Would you recommend any resources?

@filmerluke9413 Год назад

If Luka hadn’t have had such a great turn one I think he would have had more of a chance, didn’t really have too many options after that bloodbath!

@Kylliian Год назад

At 29:20 I thought you had to remove the units actually covered by the template, not get to pick and choose who lives and dies? Maybe it just looks off with the camera angle.

@collinl5023 Год назад

I genuinely dont know because I dont play enough but do you flee if you fail a Hold reaction? Seems silly. You should just fail the reaction imo.

@benbiddiss336 Год назад

It’s a morale check, not a LD check, so yes, you run away if you fail, it was even clarified in the faq.

@cadelittle7365 Год назад

Would love to see the new missions from siege of Cthonia when the book comes out

@michaelmacdonald8656 Год назад

Count the 6's :)

@CATFEESH666 Год назад

Why are they always complaining about something?

@globoxx1625 Год назад

Yeah Luka seemed super salty this game aha the EC player seemed quite chill

@vincentmays8297 Год назад

I think the the emperors children elites are the best overall, in warhammer proper

@LJD442 Год назад

Okay as a casual observer who is really interested in getting into the game I feel like seizing the initiative is this super neat idea conceptually but not great in practice. Truthfully, I feel like it should be a warlord trait if anything as a specific heart of the league or something. Maybe that would make it worse because everyone would hate that league/warlord... I don't know maybe they should just scrap it.