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Empire Builders to Milwaukee 

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Privately run intercity passenger service in Milwaukee was a thing of the past by early 1971. The Federal government had formed Amtrak to remove the burden of passenger service from the railroads and insure that core passenger routes remained active. By May 1st, when Amtrak rolled into Milwaukee, things had changed. Milwaukee Road's Hiawatha and C&NW's bi-level Streamliners were out, but Amtrak's Empire Builder was in. Direct rail service was now available all the way to Seattle, but one could no longer travel to Green Bay! All passenger service on C&NW rails was gone, but Amtrak did pick up some Chicago-Milwaukee trains over Milwaukee Road rails. These new trains looked different, too. Amtrak paint was months away and its first units were made up of mismatched heritage cars and engines that earned them the nickname "Rainbow" trains (BN green, GN orange and blue, Milwaukee yellow, Burlington silver, NP greens, and others). Their classic motive power included E-9s, F-3s, F-7s, and F-9s.
Empire Builders to Milwaukee takes you back to the six months preceding and following the start of Amtrak service in Milwaukee. You'll view the Morning Hiawatha and the C&NW bi-level Streamliners during their last winter and spring of operations as well as Amtrak's new Empire Builder and Chicago-Milwaukee corridor service. Also making appearances are freights (many pulled by venerable GP35s and GP9s) on the Milwaukee Road and Soo Line, the commuter Cannonball, and specials including Amtrak's Turbo Train on its national tour and the Great Circus Train of 1971. These exciting scenes were filmed at Oconomowoc, Pewaukee, Duplainville, Brookfield, Elm Grove, Wauwatosa, Oak Creek, West Bend, and other Milwaukee metro areas. There's plenty to enjoy in this fascinating tribute to Amtrak's early Empire Builders!

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@freddykagin
@freddykagin Год назад
I remember these trains very well. Going through my backyard 😊🇺🇸😎🚂
@Thomas1980
@Thomas1980 9 месяцев назад
Super good video .....Thumbs Up!👍 Have a nice day 😀Greetings
@freddykagin
@freddykagin Год назад
Beautiful trains 🚂 😊
@b5kalad
@b5kalad 15 лет назад
The more I watch this video the more I feel that I was born one generation too late.
@CSX2665
@CSX2665 5 лет назад
im so glad i am not alone i know exactly how you feel...
@TronVila
@TronVila 4 года назад
Seriously, we just missed it
@ohioandnortheastern
@ohioandnortheastern Год назад
I feel like I was born two generations late
@northeastrailfanproduction9199
I do too
@markmccummins8049
@markmccummins8049 5 лет назад
Great videos. That Schlitz circus train sure was swaying on those C&NW tracks!
@russgrunert4730
@russgrunert4730 2 года назад
Loved the wig wag at the end
@danielkennedy1524
@danielkennedy1524 6 лет назад
GREAT videos! The Milwaukee and C&NW surrounded us! Hiawatha and the 400 would high ball!!!
@jonnyjetstreamer997
@jonnyjetstreamer997 4 года назад
Grew up in Brookfield and most of these crossings are very familiar. The line from Brookfield to Waukesha went through our farm and in the 70’s I got to know the engineer. He stopped the whole freight train and picked me up more than once and I would hang out with the crew at the Brookfield depot.
@mysticrailroad
@mysticrailroad 4 года назад
great post. thank you.
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 8 лет назад
1:49 - 1:56. BEST AIR HORN!!! Two-tones at the same time, and they clash perfectly! An E and B note just works so well! Also, is it just me, or did the E-unit at 2:28 sound like a saxophone?
@CSX2665
@CSX2665 8 лет назад
+Russell Streak lol i noticed that to!!!
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 8 лет назад
Hehe. Yeah
@TrainTrackTrav
@TrainTrackTrav 7 лет назад
I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like a nasty, shrill, ugly horn. I love it! Perfect horn for an old Geep.
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 7 лет назад
TrainTrackTrav Yeah. Along with the symmetrical hood height, the Geep 9s are my favorite roadswitchers.
@icrailfanner
@icrailfanner 7 лет назад
it's a fouled Prime 920, it does sound cool fouled like that though
@ClearwaterSubProductions
@ClearwaterSubProductions 4 года назад
Love that horn at 1:50!
@tejasnite
@tejasnite 9 лет назад
Great photography
@evanswinford7165
@evanswinford7165 4 года назад
Love the Opal GT at the wig wag crossing.
@d65fitzer
@d65fitzer 16 лет назад
In college in southern Wisconsin, we would drive up to Oconomowoc and watch the Hiawatha fly through town at 90+ mph in a swirl of snow.
@JackF99
@JackF99 3 года назад
I knew this was an old post when the guy said "Visit Pentrex on the world wide web".
@MIKECNW
@MIKECNW 8 лет назад
C&NW.Growing up In Park Ridge where I still live I Remember the loud engines.
@mikeingersoll4466
@mikeingersoll4466 7 лет назад
MIKECNW nahh cnw c449w lol i like those too bad they dony exist anymore
@DYP1420
@DYP1420 15 лет назад
Love the Zephyr footage in La Crosse.
@Evansville64
@Evansville64 9 лет назад
I would kill for the Evansville WI circus train footage.....
@bobmartin3
@bobmartin3 9 лет назад
Evansville64 Yes There Should Have Been.
@beepbeep3000
@beepbeep3000 10 лет назад
I have this one too and like to see CNW in Milwaukee from the 1950s to the early 1970s
@mikeingersoll4466
@mikeingersoll4466 7 лет назад
BeepBeep3000 did u see the old cnw units pulling that circus train?
@beepbeep3000
@beepbeep3000 6 лет назад
That was all before my time. I remember the CNW after the mid-1980's (as a kid) to the merger with the UP 6 weeks before I graduated high school. Never the same after that.
@amtrakrules52
@amtrakrules52 16 лет назад
great video!
@McMike321
@McMike321 17 лет назад
wow the good old days of train travel, it sucks that these things are gone forever
@planeflight1202
@planeflight1202 6 лет назад
well the commuter coaches (bilevel pullman ones) are in service primarily at metras up lines, (ex cnw)
@czenkner
@czenkner 17 лет назад
Very good, magic
@kurtkauffman4326
@kurtkauffman4326 10 лет назад
Like those MILW GP40's.They later on received the Billboard Lettering,"MILWAUKEE ROAD",one on each side of the hood & on the front so they could improve Grade Crossing visibility.CP Rail System may still have quite a few of these on the Roster here in 2014.
@pkranz937
@pkranz937 9 лет назад
Most, but not all of Milwaukee Road's freight power got the lettering applied after 1973. This was nothing more than a running change in the Milwaukee paint scheme with new equipment, so it may have been some ICC requirement. Black lettering would do nothing to improve visibility, as the Soo Line discovered when experimenting with 3M Scotchlite material around the same time.
@bnsffreighttrain
@bnsffreighttrain 17 лет назад
Sweet...Awesome video
@disneywitchywoman1512
@disneywitchywoman1512 9 месяцев назад
Cool 😎
@davidurban6813
@davidurban6813 2 года назад
I love seeing E-8's with the oscillating headlights. I'm not a big fan of ditchlights. Just saying. Have a great weekend everyone.
@popps2502
@popps2502 2 года назад
I agree with You, feel the same way.
@willberestartingthischanne9984
@willberestartingthischanne9984 4 года назад
I Have Empire Builders To Milwaukee On DVD From June 2020
@whitemountainproductions
@whitemountainproductions 7 месяцев назад
I own the dvd to its awesome
@therealstuffedzebra
@therealstuffedzebra Год назад
Auto-captioning generated some funny phrases, such as when it referred to Amtrak as “anthrax!”
@jlsmith2937
@jlsmith2937 8 лет назад
Neat Wig Wag signal!!!!!!!
@nickstransportvlogs
@nickstransportvlogs 5 лет назад
The good old days of American railroads.
@danielwalton9012
@danielwalton9012 Год назад
Well Let's Count the 1st vestiges of Amtrak Paint Down!
@trainguy91
@trainguy91 16 лет назад
the Milwaukee Road paint scheme on the passenger cars and the old locomotives is similar to the Union Pacific paint scheme
@lukethegeneralelectrice60p80
@lukethegeneralelectrice60p80 2 года назад
0:20 Fast BN Coming Through!
@Chasingrail
@Chasingrail 5 лет назад
Awesome!
@b5kalad
@b5kalad 15 лет назад
HarveyHankelmann, sad but you are correct regarding the USA. I just took the Empire builder from Seattle to Chicago two weeks ago. It felt like go back in time. A better time for the USA. I am working on moving to Israel because I fear what is going to happen here in the USA and wanted to take the Empire Builder before it was took late.
@SGTDUPREY
@SGTDUPREY 11 лет назад
shame that BN never had a full hockey stick train, have an N scale version of this fictional consist. it's really nice, man I missed the golden days of railroading by 30,40, 50, maybe even 60 years...
@Ferrocarril_Chicago
@Ferrocarril_Chicago 10 лет назад
Oh boy, cool. Love that Milwaukee Road F40PH.
@icrailfanner
@icrailfanner 10 лет назад
That's a F45
@Ferrocarril_Chicago
@Ferrocarril_Chicago 10 лет назад
F45?
@icrailfanner
@icrailfanner 10 лет назад
Milwaukee road never owned any F40PH's only F40C's that was a F45 it is the oldest if the f40 series the f45 is similar to the F40C but there were no F40PH's made in '71 the first F40PH was made in 1975
@Ferrocarril_Chicago
@Ferrocarril_Chicago 10 лет назад
Really? So the F45s have 6 axles like the F40Cs?
@icrailfanner
@icrailfanner 10 лет назад
Yes it is a six axle loco
@markothwriter
@markothwriter 3 года назад
The Empire Builder comes from the Great Northern Railway - that started it in 1929 It was not started by AMTRAK
@elrodjones
@elrodjones 16 лет назад
Love it!
@koryclarke1991
@koryclarke1991 9 лет назад
To the young railfans, in the beginning, that is what it looked like around Hart Park back then.
@milwaukeearearailfan5602
@milwaukeearearailfan5602 6 лет назад
Divergingroute1973 that is Hart park??!!!??!?!?!?!?
@Chasingrail
@Chasingrail 5 лет назад
Milwaukee Area Railfan woah
@bendover9411
@bendover9411 5 лет назад
Thought the Shitz beer circus train was gonna tip over! 3:20, man that train is moving.
@decline2state
@decline2state 9 лет назад
I liked the wigwag at the end.
@richardgerlach5156
@richardgerlach5156 9 лет назад
decline2state I think the car was an Opel GT too! Can't believe he didn't try to beat the train! Today's drivers probably would! And that train was flying!
@richardgerlach5156
@richardgerlach5156 8 лет назад
+Jim Bach The wigwag he was referring to was the grade crossing light in that end scene not the light on the engine.
@sacredf8
@sacredf8 8 лет назад
One Of These Sounds Sound Familiar From 2015 And Other Years.
@tommythomason6187
@tommythomason6187 3 года назад
Didn't Burlington Northern handle The Empire Builder a year before Amtrak? Too bad BN had no publicity shots of an all green BN passenger train, with the 85-foot full dome. Would've liked to have seen that.
@Petemonster62
@Petemonster62 2 года назад
Tommy - Yes, Burlington Northern handled the Empire Builder from March 1, 1970 to April 31, 1971. I saw BN's Western Star a few times in '70 & '71; it had a Burlington Route lead engine, with the other engines & cars from Great Northern & Northern Pacific. There may not have been a BN passenger train with the engines & cars all in Cascade Green.
@tintinspartan
@tintinspartan 16 лет назад
On 2:27, the horn of the loco (F7A) spund like a clown horn.
@Isochest
@Isochest 17 лет назад
Looks as if the Milwaukee persevered when others fell by the wayside: Perhaps if the General Electric suggestion of wiring the gap (between Avery and Othello in the 1970s) went ahead, they might be still here raking in the dollars with their electrified transcontinental route (perhaps wired east of Harlowton)!
@revolp69
@revolp69 15 лет назад
i don't know the ones behind it aren't hopping like that...ahhh good old 70's/80's railroad
@brandonharrischannel7516
@brandonharrischannel7516 2 года назад
0:56 I saw one of them
@as97ir
@as97ir 15 лет назад
i forgot all about trains but now PLANES B-747s
@coasternamegenerator5611
@coasternamegenerator5611 6 лет назад
0:03 woah that s5t
@nyshortline
@nyshortline 15 лет назад
FP-45. Looks like an F-40 but it's C-C trucked.
@bobmartin3
@bobmartin3 14 лет назад
The Famous Train Names Such As The Milwaukee Road's Hiawathas! Chicago, And Northwestern Streamliners! And Burlington Northern's Northcoast Limited Must Be Saved Too!
@seanycarr3226
@seanycarr3226 5 лет назад
At least Amtrak has the Hiawatha Service between Chicago and Milwaukee, but they should go all the way to the Twin Cities. Maybe at least out to La Crosse in Wisconsin. Amtrak should have a second train from the Twin Cities to at least Montana where the Blackfeet and other Indian tribes reside.
@tundewillis3326
@tundewillis3326 7 лет назад
the beer train looked like it was about to tip
@mikeingersoll4466
@mikeingersoll4466 7 лет назад
Tunde Willis those r old cnw units
@Trainlover4472
@Trainlover4472 7 лет назад
Mike Ingersoll you don't say
@joeozeransky5647
@joeozeransky5647 11 лет назад
make a playlist of all these Early Amtrak Across Wisconsin vidios.
@StrassenbahnBen
@StrassenbahnBen 16 лет назад
Did you made that video by your own? This is brillian!!! Very well done!
@BNforever2009
@BNforever2009 10 лет назад
was those REA express boxcars running on Amtrak trains back in 70 and 71 ?
@richardburton2561
@richardburton2561 7 лет назад
The private sector wanted out of passenger service, and urged the government to take over.
@nicolascalvache8102
@nicolascalvache8102 4 года назад
All of this was filmed near where I grew-up! As far as I know, the Brookfield Depot still stands but in the 80s Milwaukee Road colors (not sure what they were doing in the 80s in terms of painting their buildings). Do you know who filmed this?
@nonovyerbusiness9517
@nonovyerbusiness9517 6 лет назад
Milwaukee Road's Hiawatha and C&NW's bi-level Streamliners are not Empire Builders.
@WindyCityRails
@WindyCityRails 6 лет назад
The CNW bilevels didn't go anywhere. They still exist and serve the same purpose. The only thing that's changes is the ownership and appearance.
@planeflight1202
@planeflight1202 6 лет назад
ya cough cough metra still runs plenty
@MilwaukeeWaveFan
@MilwaukeeWaveFan 9 лет назад
Is that the old railroad station in Brookfield, WI at 1:16? That looks really familiar.
@Chasingrail
@Chasingrail 5 лет назад
Stevan Stojanovic I think so
@BNforever2009
@BNforever2009 10 лет назад
Just wondering. I know anything can happen on a railroad anytime. Did Amtrak lease those GN SDP-45's to run on the Empire Builder back in 1970?
@1940limited
@1940limited 8 лет назад
Yes, Amtrak changed the face of American railroad's passenger trains forever and not for the better. We lost half our trains over night and have continued to be downgraded ever since.
@joeruiz4010
@joeruiz4010 7 лет назад
g bridgman: Amtrak should suffer the same fate as ConRail; it should be broken up and sold off to the private sector.
@rypatmackrock
@rypatmackrock 7 лет назад
g bridgman The only thing we can do as rail fans, is either build our own model layouts reflecting these prototypes, or just simply admire the rich history and what had to be done keep passenger trains alive. Amtrak has now been around for 40 years, and they have already left their permanent mark. Can you still at least enjoy the simple site of a live train coming by? At least Union Pacific still operates their excursions.
@1940limited
@1940limited 7 лет назад
rypatmackrock You're right. Thanks for the reply.
@rypatmackrock
@rypatmackrock 7 лет назад
g bridgman your welcome.
@davidcoty5168
@davidcoty5168 7 лет назад
I agree. Amtrak took over and just kept cutting service
@dumbrailfans5285
@dumbrailfans5285 3 года назад
0:20 kecepatan penuh!!
@Verbeke7
@Verbeke7 12 лет назад
It's an EMD FP45.
@Petemonster62
@Petemonster62 11 лет назад
Burlington Northern's Western Star was a " rainbow train " in 1970 & 71 with a silver Burlington Route diesel on the point & trailing Great Northern & Northern Pacific diesels & cars.
@revolp69
@revolp69 16 лет назад
look at 2:07- 2:10..is that normal for that s.p. boxcar to hop like that???
@cjb761
@cjb761 15 лет назад
I would have to agree with you.
@tundewillis3326
@tundewillis3326 7 лет назад
what did they ever do with all the f units i know most problably made the museum and i still see some of the commuter cars
@planeflight1202
@planeflight1202 6 лет назад
the commuter cars are in service with metra to some extent.
@folkeklarstrom3668
@folkeklarstrom3668 3 года назад
What is the yellow locomotive at 2:05? It doesn’t really look like a f45 so i’m not so sure.
@wiestbound
@wiestbound 12 лет назад
I know, i made a mistake
@tonyfrancesco3701
@tonyfrancesco3701 5 лет назад
Amtrak could have kept the traditional colors of the railroads .
@04punky
@04punky 7 лет назад
0:55 since when did the C&NW make bi-level AKA double decker car?
@DT-dm8vx
@DT-dm8vx 7 лет назад
1955
@planeflight1202
@planeflight1202 6 лет назад
pullman made it from 1956 and st louis in 1955, with 4 windowed ones being from thr 60s and 70s, metra still has plenty examples in service its the commuter railroad of chicago.
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 8 лет назад
What is the pulsating headlights called? Is that supposed to be a Mars light?
@Railfanmatt4CNA421
@Railfanmatt4CNA421 8 лет назад
+Russell Streak Or Gyrolight. but yeah. Mars.
@foxthorne
@foxthorne 15 лет назад
nice old wig wag signal @ 3:16
@harikrishnan1954
@harikrishnan1954 6 лет назад
Why these F series locomotives have additional units on their trail!? Are those generator cars!?
@rickboivin7732
@rickboivin7732 5 лет назад
F series were rated in the 1200-1500 hp range so multiple units were usually required. The trailing units without cabs were B units. They were slaved to the cab unit but were locomotives in their own right. Being diesel-electric locomotives, power cars weren't necessary, but if the passenger cars still used steam heat (quite common back then), a steam generating car would be needed. I'm not so knowledgeable that I could tell a steam car from a B unit in this video.
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 4 года назад
@@rickboivin7732 CB&Q used a power car in commuter service for a bit in the 60s IIRC for HEP on the bilevels since they didn't have dedicated commuter power with HEP capabilities
@rickboivin7732
@rickboivin7732 4 года назад
@@garysprandel1817 Oh right! I assume that in long distance service one of the trailing units was/is used for HEP. I've only learned about the commuter services in the Chicago CMA in the last decade and those seemed to be single unit service as a rule. It makes sense that in the last years of private service that railroads like CB&Q and Rock Island wouldn't always have a HEP unit when it needed one.
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 4 года назад
@@rickboivin7732 actually the long distance service got it's house services from engine mounted steam generators even into early rainbow era Amtrak. CNW and MILW selected some of their surplus long distance power and fitted them with HEP capabilities. Rock Island did the same but their choices for power made the last pre RTA years a rolling working museum ( while the warm weather arrival of the F40PHs also gave us some photo ops worthy of CNW steam pulling bilevels with F40PHs pulling 20s era Caponeliners). My biggest regret is while I just got my licence in that era passenger/commuter service wasn't really on my radar and I got my fill of Rock Island freight action visiting family 20 miles or so west of the end of commuter operations and only a few times did I bother bringing my Instamatic along because those yellow and green E and F units pulling matching bilevels in my hometown and the Rock Island would always be there until one day they weren't. The foolish optimistic belief of a young man that the world would change dramatically on him.
@raspergrey4935
@raspergrey4935 2 года назад
like train
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 года назад
3:15 SPEED
@johnnyjames7139
@johnnyjames7139 Год назад
I have always loved trains but, Amtrak has been a collosal money lossing disaster. Do we subsidize stage coaches?
@sacredf8
@sacredf8 8 лет назад
Just How Did You Get The Sounds?
@chessie3802
@chessie3802 3 года назад
You never got a response to your sound question. I assume its all dubbed from somewhere else, and not even the trains they're showing, unfortunately.
@sacredf8
@sacredf8 3 года назад
@@chessie3802 Sorry, but this is an old comment. I was not the smartest person back then, but thanks for answering my question.
@bobmartin3
@bobmartin3 9 лет назад
But I Think there Should be rail Road track repair.
@NS6677
@NS6677 16 лет назад
No They bought Conrail in 1999, or 1998, Whichever
@343kaka
@343kaka 16 лет назад
There is something extra with american rail...
@DJslopoke83
@DJslopoke83 10 лет назад
Xx
@superjesse64
@superjesse64 15 лет назад
I never liked Amtrak's appearance when I read about it.
@chefjavier
@chefjavier 16 лет назад
That's not conrail cars.
@janetfrancom9596
@janetfrancom9596 9 лет назад
so
@starview1
@starview1 10 лет назад
If a mass transit system is a thought for MKE : Think above ground monorail Connect the airport,summerfest grounds,museum, the zoo,miller park,State fair grounds with a above ground aerial monorail loop, around Milwaukee. That avoids interference with traffic,gives a more scenic view,less stops,less problems for ground demolitions and overall more interesting than street based transport. Gets people to the most trafficked parts of city, street based mass rail transit is a waste of time and space, monorail above ground would actually be fun to use. Ground based trains died years ago, unless they travel at high speed for great distance like MKE to chicago with no stops in between,that people likely would use.The idea of MKE to madison train is a waste;would never support itsself.The traffic between MKE and Chicago is huge especially in summer and is orders of magnitude greater than MKE to madison
@wangbuh300
@wangbuh300 16 лет назад
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