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Empire Earth: It's Official; the Computer AI CHEATS! 

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It's official; the computer AI does cheat! They start off building barracks in the video where I can't build one just yet with 50 wood less in low resources setting to begin with. They really do have unlimited resources making the players skeptical about the AI's able to rebuild where they lost to make up the loss.

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@3rdJan
@3rdJan 4 года назад
as a kid I used to tyrannize the ai with my advanced weaponry and cheats, and in one game I immediately destroyed everything but their capitol and they just kept producing people like nothing lol
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 4 года назад
Just like ants. :/
@justTyping
@justTyping 6 лет назад
I prooved that an other way: Play islands and the AI will build towers around the island without collecting stone. (having 200 stone)
@OgaKunieda
@OgaKunieda 3 года назад
@Jesiah Isaiah did someone care ?
@OgaKunieda
@OgaKunieda 3 года назад
​@Carmelo Jayson did someone care ?
@draganduga2781
@draganduga2781 3 года назад
@@OgaKunieda i cared
@OgaKunieda
@OgaKunieda 3 года назад
@Ihsan Indonesia carmuk, elu malahan ga tahu komentar sebelumnya apa
@OgaKunieda
@OgaKunieda 3 года назад
@Ihsan Indonesia BOCIL DETECTED
@FuckTheNewAliasSystem
@FuckTheNewAliasSystem Год назад
It's official, i wasnt cheating as a kid because i sucked so bad, i was merely leveling the playing field
@kikkk3588
@kikkk3588 Год назад
10 years later and I still play this, it's just too ironic
@jankutac9753
@jankutac9753 2 месяца назад
Are you on the empire earth reborn discord?
@lennartgro
@lennartgro 6 лет назад
I guess everyone has known that lol
@nukemonk
@nukemonk 8 лет назад
I can't kill a computer enemy who has no resource income and advances before me.
@DetectiveNyx
@DetectiveNyx 3 года назад
i used to just cheat right back lol
@kentreed2011
@kentreed2011 Год назад
lol yeah me too
@Xragon
@Xragon 8 лет назад
just as I thought. there should be a mod that makes gamerules same for the AI
@dschoene57
@dschoene57 7 лет назад
The game would be unplayable as a four year old could beat the AI on hard. Remember that Empire Earth was made for computers that would lose to today's smartphones. There simply wasn't the neccessary processor power at that time for a more sophisticated AI, so they offset that with cheating. These days computers are more powerful and hence the AI's are much smarter, but even in this day and age each and every RTS game AI cheats to make up for the lack of intuition and iprovisation skills that set a human apart from a machine.
@4xelchess905
@4xelchess905 4 года назад
@@dschoene57 Processor is not at fault, programing, or lack thereof, is. Contemporary RTS game like Age of Empire or Warrior King Battles had decent non cheating AI challenging for most casual players (AoE only cheated on highest difficulty levels, but the lower, non cheating difficulty levels weren't trivial to beat). Age of Empire HD, which was something like 4 years old when you posted this comment does not cheat at all and is at weakish expert level. AIs strong enough to pose challenges to pros have been made by the community as well, for AoE HD and for starcraft as well I think. The real explanation is that it was probably a relatively small team that couldn't do everything and had to prioritize campaign expansions over writing a half believable AI. Even in Civilization, where the AI needs to cheat copiuously to compete with hardened veteran, it is strong enough to teach the newest players without having to cheat, and to cheat in a believable and enjoyable way (they're able to developp faster while defending with more troops, but when you deal damage to them, they feel it).
@stormcaster6322
@stormcaster6322 4 года назад
@@4xelchess905 yeah nowadays they have neural networks like open ai that can beat even the best starcraft players
@4xelchess905
@4xelchess905 4 года назад
@@stormcaster6322 When I say contemporary, I don't mean contemporary to us, I mean contemporary to EE. Warrior King battle has no neural network and it and its AI run on the exact same 20 yo patatoes EE does.
@stormcaster6322
@stormcaster6322 4 года назад
@@4xelchess905 oh ok merry christmas btw
@TheKovosh
@TheKovosh 3 месяца назад
I was 13 years old that I had to face with this shit, and couldn't learn on my own until someone showed me how to do it.
@Ichglaubenicht
@Ichglaubenicht 6 месяцев назад
😂 oh man. I feel u hahah
@hashinshinisap3do226
@hashinshinisap3do226 7 лет назад
you can disable the cheating ai when playing in a custom scenario but since the ai sucks whitout cheating the best thing to do is put 1vs4 , 2vs6 ,4vs10 to be more challenging.
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 7 лет назад
Can I really do that!? I never used custom scenario once btw. I don't think there is a way to disable it unless I dig deeper into the game's files, but... I'm not much of a programmer to hack my way to fix the game dev's error? Anyways, thx for the info. :/
@hashinshinisap3do226
@hashinshinisap3do226 7 лет назад
yes ! in the custom scenario just go to players settings then ai settings e mark everything except "cheat" and "ignore" and then generate a random map.dont forget to lower the starting resources or the computer will rush units like crazy at the early game,use the "set to all players" to make the things easier
@zatnikutel635
@zatnikutel635 4 года назад
@@hashinshinisap3do226 i just want to be technologically far ahead than computers, but the problem is, when you research next era, comps will get it for free. this solves this aswell ?
@plipogamez3173
@plipogamez3173 3 года назад
I find I can stomp the A.I after I have advancd to era 4 or 5. Make a plan, and work to it. The A.I. usually does not attack until after era 4.
@bahadrtaspinar4575
@bahadrtaspinar4575 7 лет назад
Yes it says in user manual?
@BlackDiamond2718
@BlackDiamond2718 9 месяцев назад
Only way i won vs ai was islands. Towered and hurricaned the whole time.
@pcpll
@pcpll 11 дней назад
Huge maps also work with lots of artillery
@benjaminsanchezjorquera8360
@benjaminsanchezjorquera8360 2 года назад
Is there a patch that fix the IA cheating? It’s a shit when I wanna play fair against IA
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 2 года назад
No idea. You have to find that on your own. I rarely play Empire Earth, and I should get back to it while my list of RTS games to play atm is on hand.
@AhsanKhan-mt5ev
@AhsanKhan-mt5ev 3 года назад
if you enable cheats in random map then open chat and write my name is methos this is a code
@Phoenix4646
@Phoenix4646 8 лет назад
I remember playing this game for the first time. Random map. Oh boy... unbeatable without atleast one computer ally. Also, you should look at the AI until it advances to the next age, specifically from copper to bronze. Not only does it advance to the next epoch like human players do, but they also get all the new upgrades! The AIs spearmen, macemen, walls and towers and ships will all be upgraded to their bronze age equivalent. Unfortunately though, it seems like the AI cannot be adjusted. Atleast I cannot find anything in the game files connected to the AI, so it's most likely part of the .dll files or even the .exe. EE1 will still be one of my all-time favorite games though :]
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 8 лет назад
+Phoenix4646 Reminds me of one german mission "The Red Baron" where artillery and medic units are abusive and completely broken because of the medic's heal...
@arsenalfan8628
@arsenalfan8628 7 лет назад
Santouryu3 The hardest German mission was the WW2 invasion of Poland, Denmark(or Iceland?) and France with a time limit. The Artillery one wasn't too hard, you just had to micromanage your army. Give the artilleries a dog to shoot at and move the dog around to dodge the artillery and simultaneously attack the artillery with suitable units.
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 7 лет назад
Actually that mission is a lot easier now since you can travel through the ocean in a speed run. *As long as you don't declare war on Poland's polish hot dogs from an early start, my fuhrer.* xD
@KingOskar4
@KingOskar4 Год назад
When I play 2v2 (1 player and 3 AIs) my AI ally IMMEADITELY starts to build 2 barracks and 2 settlements, while I start only with 300 or so Wood. 😂😅 The reason is I play Random Map on easy difficulty, but it seems that the AI always has more than me!
@MrFree800
@MrFree800 9 лет назад
Only age of empires 1,2 maybe and 3 AI doesn't cheat . 90% of rts AI cheats
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 9 лет назад
+Georgegr George On Empire Earth, the AI has unlimited resources regardless of starting a new game. The players' disadvantage point here is proof enough that we're forced to the resource glitch to even the plain fields. So really there's no point for the AI to gather resources if it's infinitive #. Still I
@Thalaranthey
@Thalaranthey 8 лет назад
in aoe computer cheats, in every single one of them. but ai for 1 is imo the best, really great catapult/archer micro kiting
@gilpaspot9811
@gilpaspot9811 7 лет назад
We're not "forced to the resource glitch to even the plain fields". We have something else to do that: our brain. Seriously, that's the human advantage.
@TheLol856
@TheLol856 7 лет назад
in the hd version of aoe 2 it doesnt cheat
@hashinshinisap3do226
@hashinshinisap3do226 7 лет назад
in all age of empires games(also age of mythology)the ai cheat in the hardest difficulties
@Tor-Erik
@Tor-Erik Год назад
The AI in Empire Earth cheats in many ways. They are provided unlimited resources for free (as seen in this video), they can train units and build structures in a fraction of the time it takes the human player to do and lastly they are not hampered by the fog of war as well as see University/Temple/Hospital range. Even so, the original Empire Earth is far superior over Empire Earth 2 and 3.
@Guitarfollower22
@Guitarfollower22 6 лет назад
What about changing difficulties?
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 6 лет назад
You can change difficulties... AI still cheats tho. xD
@Guitarfollower22
@Guitarfollower22 6 лет назад
Santouryu3 wow, good video btw, I always had a sneaking suspicion thar the AI cheats
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 6 лет назад
Thx. It's not the best quality video tho. Then again, it's an old rts game.
@antiamenaza7372
@antiamenaza7372 11 месяцев назад
five years late I can say that the only thing that changes with the difficulty is how frecuent they attack you
@Guitarfollower22
@Guitarfollower22 11 месяцев назад
@@antiamenaza7372 better late than never!
@danielrobertson2154
@danielrobertson2154 4 года назад
You could just play the game and figure that out
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 4 года назад
I already figure out that the AI cheats with unlimited resources. *Played it numerous times*
@critical968
@critical968 3 года назад
My name is methos
@emky
@emky 3 года назад
All your base are belong to us
@sierraapples8099
@sierraapples8099 4 года назад
And i realize tribute is useless
@plipogamez3173
@plipogamez3173 3 года назад
Yes, I have never been able to birbe my way out of trouble.
@frankfernandes718
@frankfernandes718 3 года назад
I was so fast with the game that i had killed them easily 😂
@pcpll
@pcpll 11 дней назад
On small map ? On medium or large, but on small map without cheats, in Nano age, I doubt it
@pcwildcat
@pcwildcat 2 года назад
Yeah this sucks. I remember the AI endlessly creating more and more units no matter how much I disrupted their economy. It's frustrating.
@pcpll
@pcpll 11 дней назад
Make an extra huge map (maximum size), build hundreds of altillery, and ask the artillery to carpet bomb one location of the map where the AI comes from (they always use the same route). When I was young, I was suprised to see that I was carpet bombing their units (like a 50 to 1 k/d ratio, even more, 100 k/d ratio I would say) and they just kept endlessly creating units... Not a categorical proof, but was still very surprising nevertheless.
@jeremygerlach5488
@jeremygerlach5488 Год назад
The EE Ai is, in effect, “printing money”. They basically have an unlimited line of credit as long as they have a settlement/tc/cap within a certain radius of an unobstructed resource node. Their “resource total” seems to be a reflection of what they want to build, rather than what they’ve actually gathered. The citizens are mostly there for aesthetic purposes. I’ve found the least frustrating way to beat the AI here is to simply ignore them and focus on “capping” the iron, stone and gold nodes by systemically walling them all off with 3x3 walls, reinforced by your Ishtar gates. Once you’ve done that, you move in for the kill. Otherwise you’ll be chasing them in circles for hours.
@abdullahvlog297
@abdullahvlog297 3 года назад
How to Download??
@mukhtaralbuali9414
@mukhtaralbuali9414 3 года назад
No wonder I can't win even against medium difficulty...
@plipogamez3173
@plipogamez3173 3 года назад
Yes you can win. The cheating is a problem, but if you plan what you intend to do before starting, you can succeed. Learn the bounuses and play to your strenghts.
@AD-ky2jt
@AD-ky2jt 7 лет назад
actully you are wrong it dosent have unlimted stuff is just starts more then you and I can prove it in some random games you play if you play with evolution the ai can be so far behind that they could be forever be in copper age while u are in nano age it's true it happend to me but the way I avoided it was giving them a bit of my stuff
@Santouryu3
@Santouryu3 7 лет назад
Sorry to burst your bubble, bub, but the AI actually does have unlimited resources if you've seen here in this video instead of jumping wrongful conclusions. The AIs and myself included started with the exact same amount of resources. Take note that I can't even build a barracks yet; however, my AI ally can build it with the amount of resources that doesn't even meet the requirements. Besides, I'm playing the original EE with no patches whatsoever in the files. Who knows you could be right about AIs not cheating if you are playing the patched version which I doubt it. It's NOT like I actually prove to dry out my enemy AI's resources like any other player would do... Battle Realms for example actually functions okay with the resources it has unlike EE. At least the AIs on that game dried out to the point of unable to build or produce anything left. Also, your grammar is hard to read... :\
@leonardoeras7962
@leonardoeras7962 6 лет назад
Santouryu3 I found out everything cost much much less for the AI, like 3 w per barrack
@zatnikutel635
@zatnikutel635 4 года назад
It doesnt matter if you stay 1 hour in every era, or you risking being rushed, and climbing tech as fast as you can, the computer players will get your tech level for free after 1-2 minute. you just cannot get an advantage. i would say you lie or a programmer changed some things in your game files. i would love to hear what did he changed.
@tams805
@tams805 3 года назад
@@leonardoeras7962 This is just not true. The AI cheats hard, and you can only win if they decide to not attack you.
@SuperTrunkspace
@SuperTrunkspace 3 года назад
I've played games where I rush with towers right outside their capitol on a small map. Every citizen that walks out gets killed. No food harvesters, they will keep producing citizens until the capitol finally takes critical damage from the towers.
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