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Today on Warhammer VS we shall be pitting the Humanity against itself!
Colin (‪@pancreasnowork9939‬) shall be championing the armies of Karl Franz: the Empire of Man whilst Eli (‪@DeadliftsForTheDarkGods‬) shall fight for Ze Lady by espousing the glory of Bretonnia!
Gunpowder of Horses? Emperor of Lady Simping? Who will win in this battle between empires?
#empireofman #bretonnia #warhammerfantasy #warhammer #endtimes
EDITED BY: Hal (‪@TheAmberKing‬)
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@thegreatbookofgrudges6953
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953 Год назад
SFG Enjoyer vs Grail Enjoyer, classic
@BenjaminWeimer
@BenjaminWeimer 10 месяцев назад
SFG? Can somebody tell me what that is? Thank you.
@enttitty9806
@enttitty9806 10 месяцев назад
Steel, faith, and gunpowder@@BenjaminWeimer
@BenjaminWeimer
@BenjaminWeimer 10 месяцев назад
⚔🙌💣@@enttitty9806 thanks
@vicentetemes5793
@vicentetemes5793 Год назад
I think you could have gone a step further. I think you could have created peak comedy. I think you should have forced _Colin_ to argue for Bretonnia, under threat of confiscating his Morathi body pillow.
@TheNovaboxx
@TheNovaboxx Год назад
Colin would kill everyone in the room with him and then himself before betraying Karl Franz!
@kelakogreenaddict1888
@kelakogreenaddict1888 7 месяцев назад
that's a long ass body pillow
@HenriqueLSilva
@HenriqueLSilva 3 месяца назад
The day Collin speaks against Carl Franz is the day Nagash obliterates his soul so that he can puppeteer his body to act out such heresy.
@kuribhonumber1232
@kuribhonumber1232 Год назад
For this episode I expect. Collin and Eli beating each other black and blue. No respectful debates just straight hands.
@doubledeputyd4242
@doubledeputyd4242 Год назад
Colin is just mad that Bretonnians have working pancreases.
@CyrodiilCome
@CyrodiilCome Год назад
You could have just said Louen saved Karl's life and inspired him to stay emperor
@iplayrunescapeinmybasement8967
Yeah, louen straight up convinced karl to become Emperor in the first place.
@Jaann1919
@Jaann1919 Год назад
Thats only total war canon i think
@CyrodiilCome
@CyrodiilCome Год назад
@@Jaann1919 no its from a book
@Former_Halo_Fan
@Former_Halo_Fan Год назад
@@CyrodiilCome the book was published by CA to promote Total War.
@harmonlanager2670
@harmonlanager2670 11 месяцев назад
Counter point: Louen would have gotten butchered by Chaos demons if a weakened, tortured Volkmar didn’t rip himself of a bannister and start throwing hands like they were rated E for Everyone.
@Romuls753
@Romuls753 Год назад
If Karl Franz is such a great Emperor why did he let the End Times happen
@Romuls753
@Romuls753 Год назад
Speech to text is cancer
@mr.k418
@mr.k418 11 месяцев назад
@@Romuls753because even he cannot stop bad decisions and wanking of chaos. And at least the Empire wasn’t nuked off screen.
@colonelsanders1349
@colonelsanders1349 Год назад
The largest battle ever fought between the Empire and Bretonnia was won by the Bretonnians. The Battle of Montfort.
@josecoronadonieto6911
@josecoronadonieto6911 11 месяцев назад
Q: did brettonnia defend, or attack. If they defended a mountain pass that near unasailable that's not very honourable to say the least.
@baneblade__
@baneblade__ Год назад
Sorry Eli but chivalry and honor isn't gonna stop a musket ball to the face
@djbeast2145
@djbeast2145 Год назад
Can we have a beginner to expert ferrus manus, i think it'll be the perfect length for a short
@barbaricboi8905
@barbaricboi8905 17 дней назад
That's fucked
@WilhelmScreamer
@WilhelmScreamer Год назад
THIS IS WHAT WE ALL NEEDED
@Predator20357
@Predator20357 Год назад
I like both sides, Empire for having a logical reason why the glue chewers of Chaos can’t stomp them (Because Guns and Cannons are pretty nasty) and the Bretonnians because of my love for Magical Paladins bonzaiing into the Forces of Evil and coming out at top. Which is why I propose that the Order Factions stop bickering over who sucks their leader off more and instead, unite to create a Tide of Order to drive by the Forces of Evil.
@coolisron2041
@coolisron2041 Год назад
Empire wins only if Colin learns to deal with bretonnian cavalry
@ej.crusing6130
@ej.crusing6130 Год назад
I am prepared for some NEXT LEVEL Empire simping
@serjobsalot8768
@serjobsalot8768 Год назад
That Monty Python quote had me in stitches, ngl
@jamieenoshima5147
@jamieenoshima5147 Год назад
Too be that guy. The ladies blessing can indeed block or how it was described to me. Swerve physics so the cannonball misses.
@magnusflodberg6162
@magnusflodberg6162 9 месяцев назад
Heresy! Fay Enchantress the most beautiful woman in the land?! Have you never heard of Imri- I mean Allarielle the Everqueen!? Oh, and let Colin go through Halo Lore!!
@Psilocybear
@Psilocybear Год назад
I would love to see a Lizardmen vs Skaven episode, both absolutely despise each other and constantly commit genocide and warcrimes against each other. Would make for a very entertaining episode 😁
@SalemPulsifer
@SalemPulsifer Год назад
Idea for an episode of "Versus" : Necron versus Skaven. The 2 races that are a bigger hinderance to themselves than their ennemies.
@edwardroose9183
@edwardroose9183 2 месяца назад
I'm a little late to post, but I think Collin's hatred of Brettonia stems from the fact that their free health care system doesn't cover insulin
@coffeegroundsforsnorting6957
Can I have the beginning of Colin's minute of hate as a ring tone?
@Eleven_Random_Letters
@Eleven_Random_Letters Год назад
Dwarves versus Elves! Let’s reenact the war of vengeance.
@jalejablonsky2396
@jalejablonsky2396 3 месяца назад
Sadly I did not witness Eli telling Collin, "Don't be so sour, Kraut." Is it low hanging fruit at this point? Yes. Is it worth it? YES!
@PhilosophicallyAmerican
@PhilosophicallyAmerican Год назад
The one point I wish Eli had brought up was flipping the Lady of the Lake narrative. She forsook her own elven kind and admitted the Bretonnians were better. An Elf goddess, which has to be the most egocentric creature in the setting, said the elves were inadequate because Bretonnia exists.
@funbro99
@funbro99 Год назад
Silly billy, it got retcon'd into cope by saying it was all according to plan for the humans to waste lives in protection of elves.
@anlize3422
@anlize3422 Год назад
Collin having a chance to dunk on the Bretonnians freely? OH MY LORDS, this will be fun. Good Eli, you will have one hell of a time dealing with the pent up hatred from Collin.
@JoelTheKven
@JoelTheKven Год назад
That was far more civil than I predicted it would be. Nice show, chaps!
@petra4385
@petra4385 Год назад
The fact there wasn't a duel demanded by deadlift was a disgrace to his lord
@myonlyfriendtheend4958
@myonlyfriendtheend4958 Год назад
Also fun fact Bretonnia they have a better navy than the empire
@Snauss
@Snauss Год назад
I wanna see Gazghul vs Grimgor to see who's Da One True Git.
@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif
@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif 10 месяцев назад
DA FIGHT UF DA CENTURY!
@cjh.1920
@cjh.1920 Год назад
You guys actually make me interested in getting invested into fantasy. Please talk about it more. 🙏🏼 That being said there’s a depressing lack of Valerian and Custodes content in general. I’ve read the Watchers of the Throne books 4 times now and to say I stan Custodes would be an understatement. I think chapter 5 of Regents Shadow does a cool job showing them off and I never see or hear about it mentioned. Thank you guys so much for giving me hours and hours of enjoyment while I paint minis. :]
@brother6082
@brother6082 Год назад
*behind the scenes On paper: empire is better because… Off paper: I choose empire because if i would choose Bretonnia Collin would leave the podcast ❤🎠🇫🇷
@Ratman36
@Ratman36 Год назад
SKAVEN WILL AND ALWAYS BE THE BEST-BEST FACTION EVER YES-YES!!!!!!
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie Год назад
Skaven are the most modern. Totally unafraid to innovate. They're also the most evil, way worse than chaos or druchii. I like that skaven will occasionally help humans, if only to screw over other skaven.
@Ratman36
@Ratman36 Год назад
Only two words why skaven are the best faction in any warhammer fantasy......... ...... WARP NUKES
@myonlyfriendtheend4958
@myonlyfriendtheend4958 Год назад
>werewolves are awesome Welph Colin likes the space wolves now pack it in
@gagemullis313
@gagemullis313 Год назад
I love Pancreas, I really do, he's an amazing content creator, but Bretonnia is the best faction in all of Warhammer and you cannot change my mind! In the lore, the Emperor decided to be present when a single Bretonnian Duke decided to beef with the Empire, imagine the threat a united Bretonnia under King Leonceour would pose, good thing the Lance and Hammer are friends...right? ....right? Edit: Gille le Breton is pronounced jee-el le Breton, not Guy-el ley Breton Another edit: King Louen killed Festus via the blessed blood that dripped from his wounds after he defeated the elder of the Glotkins in single combat
@iplayrunescapeinmybasement8967
I like pancreas too but his knowledge of bretonnia seems to just be from memes. Bretonnia led the crusades against araby, conquered Marienberg and held off several empire invasions. They’re pretty OP.
@spiffygonzales5160
@spiffygonzales5160 Год назад
Bretonnia serves a goddess who uses them as slaves to protect the elves and abuses the vast majority of their population. No matter what Bretonnia does, that will always ruin them for me. The stupid "herr derr 90% tax, peasant was starving and took some food so I killed his entire family, no technology, all in the name of a goddess who loves the elves" nonesense
@skeith1543
@skeith1543 Год назад
You know in older lore Bretonnian regularly invaded the Empire and the Fay Enchantress knows all 8 lores of magic. Also the Lady's blessings regularly stops ranged attacks any way.
@Anym1088
@Anym1088 Год назад
Can’t wait for the Morathi episode
@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAA
avengers level moment
@glasslaughter824
@glasslaughter824 Год назад
You guys should do Venkna from dnd vs Nagash
@brandonciglar5232
@brandonciglar5232 9 месяцев назад
Septim Empire vs Sigmarite Empire (aka classic rome vs germanic)
@harveybridgeman6895
@harveybridgeman6895 Месяц назад
I'm with Colin on this one. I will grant you that Sigmar's Empire of Man, glorious as it might be, is not the best nation militarily (though its infantry are just regular guys with spears, pistols and axes who take on Orcs and Beastmen on the daily) or technologically (though from a human standpoint this is almost true as they're definitely up to Cathay's level in the tech tree when it comes to guns, and higher with steam power) or even magically (though nowhere else in the Old World nor possibly beyond can claim to host one of the foremost centres of arcane learning, where the Winds are understood more as a science than as a mysterious, uncontrollable force). However, what DOES make the Empire a FAR greater nation than Gilles le Breton's derivative, irrelevant backwater of a kingdom, is that the Empire excels in its versatility, and adaptability to the circumstances of the world. As Colin himself put in one of his videos, the Empire isn't stuck in the medieval stasis that most fantasy nations are, something which makes Bretonnia even worse as there should be no excuse for them still having 15th century armies, machinery, infrastructure and feudalism in an age where their neighbours have access to guns, rockets, reliable and diverse spells, unique politics and just better standards of living. I would give my life for Sigmar before ever acknowledging the haughty Bretonnia as an equal to his Empire's faith, steel and gunpowder.
@natet9071
@natet9071 Год назад
Gotrek vs Archaon
@superduperman9332
@superduperman9332 Год назад
I don’t think pancreas knows that imperial wizards are canonically worse than bretonnian damsels. The prophetesses are even more scary. Also the blessing of the lady protects you from bullets. Grail knights have this automatically and other knights just have to pray for it and be found worthy. And LOL at a bunch of grubby halberdiers being able to hold down a group of grail knights. lorewise they’d get absolutely flattened. Grail knights, blood knights and the like are just in a different league than regular humans. Maybe chaos warriors with halberds could distract them, but not a bunch of normal dudes…
@DokturProfesur
@DokturProfesur Год назад
The Grail Knights are basically the Ordertide's equivalent of Aspiring Champions. Entirely devoted to their diety and blessed in turn with incredible magical and martial power.
@Lunarice98
@Lunarice98 Месяц назад
Imagine becoming a simp for power. Couldn't be the empire.
@skeith1543
@skeith1543 Год назад
Collin says the battle is not won in any one engagement on the battlefield, but the same holds true for the brettonians. The Grail knights will hold up a key unit and the rest of the bretonnians will attack with Trebs, Archers, more knights and their flying cavalry which the Empire is pretty weak against. As well, they might not have the same number of lores, but it's hard to argue against a Comet of Cassendora.
@droopybg
@droopybg 11 месяцев назад
I could really go for a skaven vs orc and watch the chaos ensume
@trippyimp6265
@trippyimp6265 Год назад
Would love a video in any format on the gloomspite gitz(know it’s aos) so maybe like skragrott vs the red gobbo
@iplayrunescapeinmybasement8967
Empire wizards can only master 1 lore of magic, while bretonnians can master 3. Add that to the lady’s blessings which can buff entire armies and the Empire is just flat out inferior to Bretonnia in the magic department.
@Jaann1919
@Jaann1919 Год назад
They can master 3, but the empire has much more wizards and much more different lores avalible
@iplayrunescapeinmybasement8967
@@Jaann1919Still not as impressive.
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953 Год назад
Both sides can cast more than 1 lore of magic (accidentally), if you were regular human with more than 1 wind is highly possible to get dark magic to corrupt you
@eichler721
@eichler721 8 месяцев назад
Other then the Green Knight and Grail Knights the Empire holds every advantage.
@zitrowill8530
@zitrowill8530 10 месяцев назад
Soundtrack on min 4:00?! (It's the background music when Colin talks)
@archimedes5172
@archimedes5172 Год назад
Please do a lizardman vs skaven versus!
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr Год назад
Tomb Kings vs Vampire Counts
@Beriorn
@Beriorn Год назад
When Marius Leitdorf, the Madlad of Averland, insulted the infamously ugly wife of some Bretonnian noble he declared a crusade against Leitdorf in retalliation. This crusade was short lived when the crusade reached Helmgart and was unceremoniously cut down by the fortress' batteries of Hellblaster Volley Guns. Gunpowder 1, horses 0.
@colonelsanders1349
@colonelsanders1349 Год назад
The largest battle ever fought between the Empire and Bretonnia was won by the Bretonnians. The Battle of Montfort.
@iplayrunescapeinmybasement8967
tbf the empire has tried to invade bretonnia several times and also failed miserably.
@engineofwoes5557
@engineofwoes5557 Год назад
I like the empire but deadlifts speech was much better.
@Akbar_and_Shaa
@Akbar_and_Shaa Год назад
I AM HERE TO SEE CARNAGE
@cirospedale7511
@cirospedale7511 Год назад
Would have been funny to see Imperium vs Bretonnia, if only to make Pancreas have to bat for the team he hates less
@disabledcable685
@disabledcable685 10 месяцев назад
Yall wanted ideas to do more of these, would love to see... Lizardmen vs Skaven Dark Elves vs High Elves vs Wood Elves Tomb Kings vs Vampire Counts Chorfs vs Stunties Idgaf what yall do I'll give it listen!
@christophersteeves9435
@christophersteeves9435 Год назад
I love when you guys do fantasy. Now if there was only some way I could get you guys to talk about AoS as well it would be perfect
@bongibot1104
@bongibot1104 Год назад
Listened in on spotify, we NEED a begginer to expert on some good old fantasy stuff. Even if it's just to eventually bring pain and misery throufh french people to no pancreas man
@rarestpepe3815
@rarestpepe3815 Год назад
Here's a Versus suggestion: Morathi vs Neferata, who's the Greatest MILF!
@Dogue83
@Dogue83 Год назад
Neferata has more dignity
@shadowrobot7708
@shadowrobot7708 Год назад
This is like two people debating what's better red or black licorice. I mean red is an alright candy but it's not great but its okay vs black licorice which is the worst of all candies.
@Wittmarch
@Wittmarch Год назад
omg HYPE
@justsomeogrewithinternetac1494
The b in Bretonnia stands for based.
@alvisecattaruzzo9863
@alvisecattaruzzo9863 Год назад
Can we get more Warhammer Fantasy in every form? Not just quiz as much as I love them
@alvisecattaruzzo9863
@alvisecattaruzzo9863 Год назад
Also fk Bretonnia
@ultimategamer876
@ultimategamer876 10 месяцев назад
wulfrick vs Nakai
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie Год назад
End Times is just speculative fanfic. I think total war warhammer became the real whfb. It's all made up stuff anyway, don't let GW's money directed lore be more real than the previous 30 years.
@LordTheCyril
@LordTheCyril Год назад
We have an easy vs in high elves vs dark elves
@brother6082
@brother6082 Год назад
I thought you all are Bretonnia fanboys/simps? 😉
@ironclamp5325
@ironclamp5325 Год назад
I can feel Pancreas’ blood pressure rising at that. As well as his blood sugar collapsing.
@Aureliano01
@Aureliano01 Год назад
Glory to Balthasar Gelt tha Supreme Patriarch
@spacemichael1177
@spacemichael1177 10 месяцев назад
All of that bretonnia hate hurts my fee fees.
@ThijsSchrijnemakers
@ThijsSchrijnemakers 10 месяцев назад
yes awesome, thanks
@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ
more fantasy fireside please
@jagged5078
@jagged5078 10 месяцев назад
Does anybody know what is the name of the music used in this video?
@twurtle12hd39
@twurtle12hd39 3 месяца назад
23:15 L for saying Jeanne D ark don’t halfass the French pronounciation it’s Jeanne d’arque (spelt arc but) or just call her Joan of arc
@redmammoth8759
@redmammoth8759 Год назад
More fantasy please
@ARustySpoon
@ARustySpoon Год назад
The fact Colin didn't just start round one with, KARL FRANZ and refuse to say anymore was disappointing.
@yopoxikeweapescai9066
@yopoxikeweapescai9066 11 месяцев назад
We need more fantasy
@CyrodiilCome
@CyrodiilCome Год назад
Bretonnia>
@danielrashkov4344
@danielrashkov4344 Год назад
I have to sign with the elf apologist.
@Hostile_NPC1
@Hostile_NPC1 Год назад
Have you heard of the high elves?
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953 Год назад
24:10
@jtdavie9466
@jtdavie9466 11 месяцев назад
Orks vs chaos!!!!!!
@Ratman36
@Ratman36 Год назад
And they are sleeping with their animals to don't lie to yourself
@Ratman36
@Ratman36 Год назад
Bretonnia family tree lines is a small sickly straight stick.
@NekoiNemo
@NekoiNemo 10 месяцев назад
Only one "gamer girl bathwater" and "simps" joke? Come on...
@SpliffingBrit
@SpliffingBrit Год назад
9:24 "they simp for her cup"
@alcotismo
@alcotismo Год назад
Any excuse to -hate on Bretonnia- discuss fantasy is a good one, you guys should absolutely do more.
@TheNameAlcorWasStolenFromMe
Look i am no colin but where the imperium has faith, steel and gunpowder the bretonians have bathwater, horses and baguetts. Plus, Louen Leoncoeur doesn't have a cool griffin and the fay enchantress is not SUPREME
@gagemullis313
@gagemullis313 Год назад
Leonceour had Beaquis, a Hippogriff
@TheNameAlcorWasStolenFromMe
@@gagemullis313 Yeah that's why i said *cool* griffin, you can't be cool if you're unironically called Beaquis
@colonelsanders1349
@colonelsanders1349 Год назад
Louen is just a superhuman who could bench press 3 Karls.
@JoshuaKevinPerry
@JoshuaKevinPerry Год назад
Bretonnia? I mean I know GW is inspired by other people's work, but they didn't even change the work so the teacher couldn't catch on.
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie Год назад
If I'm not mistaken, Bretonnian grail knights worship an Eldar female who uses magic to trick humans into thinking she's a goddess. The knights might be cool, but they're being tricked. I like the vampire grail dudes, though. They treat peasants not great. WHFB has influences from multiple cultures and time periods. The Bretonnians are from the Chivalreic period, the Empire is Prussian states in the 1600s to 1700s. Am i wrong? I've only really paid attention to druchii, skaven, undead, and the italians and pirates. Tilerea or whatever
@gagemullis313
@gagemullis313 Год назад
Doesn't it say something that an Elven diety choses the noble Knights of Bretonnia over her elf servants? I've heard that in her realm, it is human Grail Knights that defend her and her servants, not Elves
@colonelsanders1349
@colonelsanders1349 Год назад
The Lady of the Lake is Lileath. She’s an actual Goddess who chose the Bretonni tribe to help safeguard the Elven race and ensure that a part of the Warhammer World survived the End Times.
@Predator20357
@Predator20357 Год назад
@@colonelsanders1349That’s a fancy way of calling them meat shields for the Elves. I personally enjoy their original lore where the Elven Goddess found the High Elves to be a bunch of pricks and decided to support the dudes actually worth a damn
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