Emporia Vue Worth It? 

Emporia should direct potential buyers to your video. It gives a much better detailed explanation than most I’ve seen.

I watched your installation video, and just watched this review, and I'm loving it so far. Very detailed information, and very encouraging for me to check out for myself. Loved these videos 100%

Thanks for the video. Just installed mine several days ago. So far I’m liking its features. Can’t wait to capture several months of data to see where usage is.

Great review. I’ve been pondering weather to buy this for awhile now. Also was going to ask you about the solar but covered it in the last few minutes. Thanks a mill and keep doing this kind of stuff 👍🏻👍🏻

Very informative video. I am sold. Thanks for the great overview.

Haha love this review! One of the best reviews I’ve seen in all across the board. Not only that, great interaction with your audience. In terms of measurement, I love to see someone who can get as granular about costs as I am. Keep it up!

Great video. I'm an electrician and I think it looks great and super useful!

Best install video for this product! Thank you

I am looking to improve my electricity monitoring and was guided by my electrician in this direction. The demo of the software was excellent. It was clear, concise, not rushed and asked questions of the software , the majority of homeDads would ask. So well done on your presentation skills. This helped me confirm my thoughts around buying the 16 circuit devise. I was also pleasantly surprised emporia sold smart plugs, which solves one main problem with the device, as ring main power circuits cannot be broken down without individual smart plug monitoring. so a great lessons learnt. I would have liked to see how solar import/usage worked on the app, but I guess you didn’t have solar installed as yet. My other area of interest is the ability to smart switch off individual breakers which this device does not incorporate into the software. But I guess smart breakers could be added to critical circuits and controlled by a separate app (such as adapt). But this is “a nice to have” in the emporia software. May be for the future. Anyway that my thoughts for the day. Well done again for a great straightforward overview of both your emporia video on installation and software data energyment..

Very well done video. Your detail and explanations of how it all works and ties together are very informative. Based on your video review of this product, I am going to buy one that will be monitoring my garage conversion to an ADU. I was going to install a second electric meter to monitor the garage so the occupants would get their own bill from smud, but the cost to add a second meter is going to cost thousands! So I am going to buy one and attach it to my home and start monitoring my house electrical usage and see how accurate it is. As of this writing, my ADU will not be finished until about March or April of 2023. So I will be able to see how accurate this device will work. It sounds very promising and if accurate, will off the bat save me thousands in installation fees of a second meter. Thanks so much for your video, big thumbs up!👍

The best thing is the integration with Emporia’s EV charger. You can make the charger change its amperage seamlessly by the second depending on how much solar power you produce/provide to the grid.

Great Video.. You can set it to coincide with your electric bill. Go to Settings>Household Info>Billing Date. I have one also and absolutely love it. I bought it while planning to purchase a generator for emergency power to see what size generator I needed. In the process I discovered several things that were costing me more than I realized. For example the first month of having the energy monitor I noticed that my hot water heater cost me $54 to run. After some experimenting I learned the hot water heater was using that much, but only because of my hot water recirculating pump that was running constantly, thus dumping cold water into my hot water tank every few minutes. Problem solved by a smart plug that turns the pump on only when we need it, using a schedule and Alexa. My hot water bill runs about $22 give or take depending on time of year as it is located in my garage. The Emporia Vue has paid for itself already in the 16 months I've had it. I'm now studying my data and contemplating solar to run my critical circuits in a power outage. Fridges, Freezer and TV/Internet and a few lights.

Good review. Your ideas for improvements are spot on. I just got an electric car and I'm probably going to get an emporia charger, so it's good that it integrates.

I recently purchased a second home in the Poconos which has 9 circuits of electric baseboard heat and 2 circuits for electric water heaters. Knowing how much electricity each of these circuits uses would be useful in evaluating alternate heat sources such as a heat pump or an instant on hot water heater.Thanks for posting. I will look into this more.

will get one myself! thanks for the detailed explanation of what it can do in the app. will probably hook it up to my Home Assistant as well as I figured there is an integration

Excellent review! This really helped. Thank you, @HandyDadTV!

Great video! Thank you

Gracias por el video. Ya lo tengo funcionando. Fue de gran ayuda su recomendacion.

I have 3 Emporia Vue units installed, obviously 1 in each breaker box. My big UGH!! which you addressed at the end is the fact that the Vue data doesn't correlate to my electric bill, due to the "calendar month". Hoping Emporia gets this data range feature updated on the app soon. Its great seeing the data, but I cant compare to an actual hard copy electric bill. Thanks for the video!!!

Great videos watched them both.

Great Review

Thanks. Pleasantly clear and well ordered. We in the UK are being g encouraged/threatened to install "smart" meters which go nowhere near what the likes of Emporia can do for the customer. Yet the energy companies persist in calling them "smart"!!!

I have a spreadsheet to estimate some of this info (for the purposes of running the house on a generator) but this looks like a useful way to automate that data collection. I saw a competing product advertised on social media somewhere, but it looked really finnicky and under-engineered...this one appears to have many more features. Interesting that there aren't many other options that include the numerous breaker panel clamps. That kinda seals the deal

Thank you for this review, You just helped me make up my mind as now I am going to buy the Emporia Energy Monitor.

Take a look at home assistant. It has emporia integration and and uses energy feature that displays your energy consumption in graphs and also shows you the comparison between last week and this weeks device’s consumption.

Very interesting!

I’m ordering one!

Good review. A couple of comments. You can set the month to match your utility billing. I have mine set to start a new month on the 28th. 2nd (and I only figured this out recently) when in the data view there is a little green bar with a ^. Click that and you can scroll the historical consumption.

I initially rejected this thing because of the Cloud storage. I didn't need a useless brick sitting around when the company goes out of business or gets bought by somebody like Google who then gets tired of their acquisition and decides to discontinue the thing. My ears perked up when you said the magic words - ESPHome and Home Assistant. Wow, now I want one! It looks great, thanks for making the video.

Very informative video, thanks for your time. Do you know if the APP now allows to selected own monthly cycle?

I've had my vue for about over a year..... I like it a lot. My only complaint is I want more data analytic features and the ability to create custom reports etc. I'm not a super huge fan of my info going into the cloud and back down on something that truthfully could be localized on an SD card. That said.... its raw feedback in real time is second to none. I will say, my install was a PAIN as I have a newer home and the Breaker panel was JAMMED with wiring and those clamps are huge. I had to move different loads around just to ensure every other breaker was the one I wanted to track because clamping two breakers adjacent just wasn't happening. That may or may not be directly their fault. My other issue was the constant tripping of my AFCI breakers with the wired nut, tied together power leads. I ended up independently adding another breaker because...Why not when you have plenty of room at the bottom of the panel. Just to manage it alone. This eliminated all the issues. Other than that from a functionality standpoint its been great.

Per your video, you said u can't set it for the exact days to match your bill but how close is the Kw to what it says to what your bill says? Is it within 5% 10% or you are not sure. Great video!!! You're a natural for YT.

It would be interesting to see if the units physically consumed on the electric meter matches the units shown on the software app.

Both, great videos. Appreciate the follow-up. In my main breaker box I have a 50-amp breaker that goes out to another building. If I want to know the specifics of what is going on there can I go to that other 50-amp breaker box and install an Emporia Vue there too? (SmartPlugs are not applicable there) Will the Emporia app give me information about both? (Can I tell the app to show me each box separately, or together?)

Thanks! I got a 4KW heat pump and a hot tub I would like to keep track of.

I noticed that the web app doesn't scroll, nice feature to have on a computer screen, otherwise like you I love the equipment and monitoring.

Definitely want a home energy monitor system. My question is: which one? This one seems pretty good with an attractive price point. Any reason why to select this one over another brand?

I really want one. Would love to be able to monitor each circuit.

Thanks for sharing, this is great. Is cloud storage free forever or is it limited to x number of years?

Hello, thanks for the very informative video! I have 2 quick questions that pertain to my situation. First, I do not have a solar system and do not yet have an electric vehicle and my electric service provider does not charge according to when I use my energy. I conserve the old fashion way. I'm in Florida, where the largest expense is keeping the house comfortable from April to October. I have 9 ceiling fans that allow me to set my A/C at a higher temperature to save, as it costs pennies to operate ceiling fans compared to the A/c system excessively. And in my situation, other than finding out where the KWH are being used, how could I save money on power consumption using this system? Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Cool info. Good as a monitor of electronic uses. Like a temp/oil pressure/electric gauges on a car. I see this as a nice to know rather than I have to known. How much is this?

Great video! We have a 200A main service panel and two 100A sub panels: one in the garage with our EVSE tied to that and another one in the utility room for our net metering solar array. I'm guessing I'm going to need three emporia monitors if that's the route we choose to go? I'm also considering the Sense Energy monitor which is a cleaner install but a little less clarity it seems like

Hi, nice video. Can i put 3 or 4 wire in one clip( i mean one sensore)? Will work ? Thank you

Nice info! Since you have an electric car how are you taking advantage of the excess energy produced by your panels to charge your EV? How much additional miles do you get/day? Do you still need additional charging during the evening, assuming the excess solar energy from your panels isn’t fully charging your vehicle.

So you mention solar. Is there a sensor you measure to get the amps flowing in and it can figure out the production costs? I'm thinking of getting one of these units. I'm a new EV owner and having the Emporia level 2 installed in a couple of weeks.

Hi @HandyDadTV, If I have multiple breakers (one for each floor in home of about 7K sq ft), and I put an Emporia Vue on each breaker, would they work together to consolidate the data from all of them into a single place within the app?

So if I have 22 breakers, some are doubled up of course for high amp. Devices, can I get accurate readings from 16 sensors? Or can I put one sensor for the double breaker feeds?

Does this enable you to see each phase in isoltaion for assessing balance between phases?

Just had this system installed by our residential solar system installer. Was looking for online information about it and found your video. If I add the smart plug plug to a monitored circuit, will it automatically appear under the circuit Bonn the phone app? 😊

Why do you think your garage fridge is using twice as much energy, you would think it would be the opposite being that it's not opened very often. Unless, your garage is really hot and or it's an older fridge? Also, can you see how many watts a circuit is pulling, I think you talked about this, but wasn't sure. Thank you so much for the video, it helped me decide if this was what I needed to monitor my mains and monitor my power consumption, because I can't use the CT that came with my Enphase as my electrical is all under ground and anyway I need something wireless.

Interesting, I like your video. How about data privacy? Data collected by emporia and stored in their cloud, how will be used for them?

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughtful perspective. I had looked into the Vue before but wasn't aware of how smartplugs can integrate with the system; that's a strong selling point. One of my concerns is finding a way to identify that an electric oven has been left on - part of a 240V induction range that unfortunately isn't a smart device. I think Vue might help sense the problem, next trick is triggering a notification. One thing I wonder is: What do electricians and code inspectors think when they open a breaker box with one of these installed?

Would two of these units work in the same house? I have two 200A service panels...

Is the App only cloud based? I would like to access the date from my local network (wifi is fine) but I am leary of cloud based since they always go to a pay to view data or they might go away and then where will we be?

Question handydad - does the app monitor power from the two breakers that you tapped to power the unit? I saw in your previous video that you powered it from your garage breakers. Will those be excluded from the monitoring? Thanks for the videos!

I am going to give the 3ph unit a try. I am more interested in amps than Kw/h.

But it only works precisely if every MCB or CBRO supplying specific device. In Ireland, we have MCB for lights on groundfloor, first floor, socket groundfloor, first floor, kitchen appliances, water heater and that's it.

Hi, great review. Wondering if it would measure the useage to our back-up portable generator, we have it hooked to the main breaker via a generlink...would love to be able to measure the draw to the generator

Just got Emporia Gen 2 hooked up. How would a charge back work with my tenants. Basically you are saying they are using more than they being charged for so you are billing for the diffrence? Ive never heard of a charge back. Thanks and great video!

in the heating times my electric changes so that anything over 700KW is a lower rate.. is it smart enough to calculate that?

Great vid. What size circuit is your car on, mine is a 60A, but only draws 48A. Wondering if the 50A sensor will work on that circuit?

Is the app just on the phone/tablet or is there a PC based app? tks

I installed mine about a week ago. I am still getting a feel for what "normal" usage is. I already found numerous circuits in the panel box that were mislabeled, including one labeled as "Heat Pump" which evidently connects to nothing. And one labeled "Old Range" which was in fact a heat pump (I got an alert that the oven had been left on, when in fact it was the heat pump running). Once reconfigured that sensor to tell it that it was a heat pump circuit and not an oven circuit, that went away.

Can you input your own date? Or does it automatically know the date?

Looking to add one, great video! Couple questions, (1) I have a 100a subpanel going to a tenant's unit...I think the product says 75a max; do you know what will happen? Maybe it will just max out if that circuit is drawing more than 75? (2) More of a curiosity, but on both of your refrigerators on the historical data there were a couple big spikes. Just curious if you know what caused that?

hi there, does it keep a history of the kWh spent over many months? what is its limit?

Have you had a minute to review the Vue Gen 3 offering that came out a few weeks ago, and comment on if it's worth the extra $$ vs. the Gen 2?

Putting those smart plugs everywhere seems a lot easier than messing with the electric panel. Based on their website prices, for $150 you can get 15 of them for around $10 a pop, which ends up costing the same as the electric panel version.

Can be monitored remotely, outside the wi-fi?

Ohhh....would you know how to get my devices "online" without me opening up 3 boxes to somehow reset the Vue box inside. :( Not a task I want to do, as Ive caulked the panels to eliminate the draft coming from the wall into my rooms. THanks

I wouldn't mind using Emporia as a security monitor.. for example, texting me that my garage door opened. However, I'm hesitant on cloud services, not because of privacy, but because it can go out of business, change the subscription pricing, etc. I have a graveyard of products that no longer worked after the company went under (MyZeo, Chumby, Blue Line EM100B, Simple.tv, Slingbox, etc, etc) BTW, how difficult is it to determine what device is on what circuit breaker. For example, one switch controls the kitchen, hallway and bedroom.. so would I have to buy Emporium plugs to distinguish?

You can easily see the trend of your refrigerator by looking at the refrigerator circuit and then choosing your time period day month year etc!

I am getting an error that says We Have Detected 3 200A Sensors and 2 Valid Voltages? Does anyone know why this is occurring. I do have only 2 - 200 Amp sensors on both main phases and I have the power split to the unit between two adjacent breakers. It is showing I have 3 phases instead of 2 and this is causing 33% more wattage, amps etc. Thanks for your input.

I’m currently looking for one. My previous one stop working

I'd like to know more about connecting to Home Assistant?

Great insight thank you. I am enjoying my heated floor this winter following your lead. How much power has your flooring used?

Can i install with my home's main electric meter to monitor all bill & consumption?

Are you able to see the balance between L1 and L2 (220v)?

If someone needs to see their heater used $6 of electricity in a month, their probably too cheap to even buy this gadget. 😂

Any idea how a sub panel in my garage that has solar and car charger in the sub one. Energy in in the day, energy out at night?

whats the difference between load management and a monitoring system

Would like to see it flashed and running with esp home

How do you monitor more than 16 circuits in a single panel? Is that an option?

3:49 My electric bill is confusing!!!!! kWh AND delivery charge? I think it also varies by consumption.

How much does this retail for?

Is your Tesla charger pulling alot

Dad god mode.

I wish it had more than 16 circuits. The smart plugs are sold out.

Why your "Car charger" has a battery icon next to it?

The x box "spike" was 10w! Hardly a spike!

I wonder whether you actually saved as much as the device costed you?

most homes have 3 or 4 circuits. 2 power outlet circuits, oven, air conditioner? how can this guy end up with 16 circuits? what does a circuit mean here?

i was all on board until you said it stored info in the cloud!!! I REFUSE TO USE SOFTWARE THAT STORES MY INFO IN THE CLOUD! But thx for review

Setting up ESPhome to flash the device looks complicated. Your comment translates to "Emporia vue requires cloud connection to work" as flashing a drive is not that easy.

Doesn't work without internet connection... That can be a cell phone, but it must have a 2.4ghz internet connection.

You DAMAGE the X-Box whenever you unplug it without shutting it down completely internally. It's the same as just unplugging your computer without shutting it down. Be careful what you just unplug when it comes to electronics.

esphome is a nightmare in my experience.

Chris, sorry still not convinced. I imagine the usage of this for most people would be to look at the app at the end of the month and never look at it again. Also, I think I covered most the use cases you mentioned, below: Double check electric bill -- you electric provider won't care. They are the final arbiter Vampire -- one time fix. There are simpler ways to find it Charging a tenant for electric use - probably the only use where I find any value in this device Monitoring chest freezer failures - simpler devices that can be plugged in point of use

LOL! Units "carbon" and "trees" Utter bullshit.

What? "Unsponsored video that contains products provided without charge", that's sponsored you dolt. Have you forgot the meaning of "sponsored"?