Emulators are taking over the App Store | The Vergecast 

man this is so much more fun to watch rather than the audio podcast, please keep them coming.

Ninten-Don't...Nilay's finger wag + Alex and David's laughs. Classic stuff. Love this podcast

You're the only podcasts I don't skip and probably could listen to for 3 hours

YAY! Video podcast again!

A disclosure with in the first 2 minutes?! This is going to be an amazing vergecast!!!!

I need a suits patel review now

This moment in particular 43:58 when Alex explains with technical eloquency, where AI is as a technology in human paradigm is exactly why I watch this vergecast.🤣🤣🤣🤣 what?

54:54 you promised to link the "love the wiz" thing in the shownotes, where is it

David's Just Sounds - Every Tuesday on RU-vid 😁

Y’all are hilarious so thank you for that ❤

Welcome to the ArgylleCast.

So this Delta app is the one with the Verge icon upside down? Is there anything else you wanna tell us Nilay? 😂

Emulators are coming to AppStore finally 🤤

apple allows emulators like delta because of EU regulations yet, i live in the EU and the "app is currently unavailable in your country or region"

I’m so glad I watched the entire episode. I’m psyched for Saturday Samsung now.

Sadly, don’t know why, Delta is not on the Portuguese App Store. Is this also happening to other EU folks?

On the $20/month Netflix-style service for old NES and super nintendo games, this already exists. It's called Nintendo Switch Online. Comes with GBA, SNES, NES, and N64 games on the Switch.

Why aren’t it chapters in Apple Podcasts?

14:30 Sounds like this allows room for distributing homebrew games within the apps

Sony's OLED from "last year" is actually a late-year model on their 2024 platform. They are *not* moving away from OLED. Sony often runs OLED *and* MiniLED sets for 2 years. And let's see if in controlled reviews with calibrated sets if the Bravia 9 gets OLED level blacks (it won't).

least unhinged vergecast

Hello Verge , when do you think google will offer a subscription phone. Do you feel it coming ?

Maybe the new Sony Mini-LED panel is the equivalent to Blackberry's physical keyboard to the Samsung Frame's no-keyboard. There's no point optimizing (panel quality) what's not needed (because people have their TVs off 90% of the time).

ScummVM is already available btw!

I bought samsung short throw projector just to not have black rectangle in my living room. I do not watch TV at all I just stream and Plex movies. I was thinking about frame for the same reasons to have something nice when is mostly off. Glad that I did not.

Polygon thinking that no one is interested in retro games shows how completely out of touch they are. No one who has played games in the past ten years would think that.

6:27 "but it'll take some work" yes, its like saying that installing something on windows takes "some work". like going to the chrome download page, click download, then double click the installer, then clicking YES i very much want to do this. AND after SO MUCH WORK chrome is still the #1 browser crazy before you say yeah but what about the games, its like saying that you ALSO need to work to install the adblocker and other extensions to make chrome usable. yep rocket science crazy how deterrent people are from using those because all the work you need to do

Who is Riley? I feel like I missed an episode. "Our buddy Riley! We all know Riley."

I would love to play Ultima Underworld on the iPad or iPhone.

I did that buy one get one free deal with Samsung TVs!! When I bought my first Frame TV, no joke. The freebee will be fine for the guest room.

Just curious, why is David always virtual but Nilay and Alex are always in studio?

I have every console released, CRT tv, 4k set with current systems, Retrotink, ect. I still downloaded this thing and loaded up Bubble Bobble because.....I can. Kids who pirate games and music end up purchasing those same products when they grow up and have money. I'm about to go pick up that Backbone controller because I finally have a good reason to.

Take a shot every time a journalist says moment.

excited to listen to this, nintendo games finding their ways to iphones? this could totally revive the games in iphones

57 seconds into the episode and there's a disclosure - is that a new record?

It does not take any more work on android 6:26 .

😂😂😂 Amazing like always

You know what's fun? Delta is not available in the EU :')

I prefer my dedicated raspberry pi gaming emulation setup with controllers and a small portable monitor. Never enjoyed games on a smart phone. That being said, I think this is great for those that have wanted it for a long time.

"More important than fire": Hmm, agreed we need to evaluate in retrospect, but look at the (first) massive changes that are here, but are too close to see how much they are shifting humanity: 1. Broad scale photo alteration - how will this actually influence our memories and records of the past when photos and videos are no longer generally accepted to be genuine evidence of a shared experience. 2. Consumable content that isn't made by humans - there has always been acceptance that humans influencing humans is a part of life. We are cresting a time when another "intelligence" is actively creating content that is indistinguishable from our own. Already the talk is of identifying edge cases to uncover source. As those get smoothed out, next will be uncovering overarching patterns. By that point, it will be impossible for the general public to do. We are already talking about bias based on training data - 3 generations from now will we be able to make that a priori calculation? Or will we have to determine bias soely on outcome? What if the bias was not introduced, but developed 'organically'? Would we even know, how large of an affect that already had on society, and how to deal with that, especially if the 'bias' served to further divide social groups employing different AI systems - especially with a diminishing source of objective facts

Of all the things Apple could allow first, I think it’s WILD emulation is the first. I feel like they’re purposefully poisoning the well here, and as soon as an emulator attracts some legal heat they’ll have an excuse to lock the whole App Store down again.

Commodore 64 lets go!

I want to see Dolphin on iOS. But I think after what happens with Steam (even if it was the precaution of valve at “fault”) they will be too scared to try

Nilay, I love the podcast, but you said something very wrong “They own the whole back catalogue of games”. That’s not true. Most games released for any given console are by third party companies. So if whatever holding company owns Atari wanted to make a game service, they would have to go talk to Activision to get the rights for Pitfall (as an example). Most companies do have alot of games they owned, but it’s not the majority of games on the platform. Also the subscription service model you’ve described and asked for exist! Microsoft has Gamepass (Which has recent as well as older games), Sony has one, and Nintendo has Switch Online. Gamepass is to my knowledge the only one with a mobile app, and it is limited to streaming rather than emulation currently

David continues to miss that betting is in the app store and has been for years

Big Papa Joe!!

The money Nintendo would be making if they had their own emulator. They could even do a subscription model and evade the 30% Apple tax. Can a company be this stubborn? Like sure, they are cashing hard on the Switch but more money is ALWAYS a company's number one priority.

If a company doesn't allow an older version of it's product, (hardware/console or software/game) to be available on it's newer hardware, even through emulation. It should be considered Abandonware and then it's considered fair game.

I disagree with Nilay about the Frame TV. People buy it because they think it's futuristic based on scifi movies where the TV is part of the house and because the untrained eye doesn't know the difference between a bad TV and a bad video. I think if you explained to every Frame buyer that they could get a much better display with better features, most would do so.

The Vergecast is about displays, and Decoder is about org charts.

With regards to the discussion on AI (around 43 minutes in) I’d question whether what is being called A.I. is really A.I… isn’t it mostly just a bunch of marketing wrapped around systems that are doing fancy number crunching? There’s no intelligence… if there was it wouldn’t be as prone to the hallucinations that it is. One day we might have A.I. but I don’t believe that day is now or any time soon

Android mandou um forte abraço 🫂

No David is Right honestly as a consumer I don't I want to hear anything about AI until I see a Dolores. Other than that I don't care I don't care about it in search engines I don't care about it with pictures I don't care about it with video I just don't care. None of them.... None of the machine learning none of it has been good enough to affect anything yet so until it is...... The most important thing about AI at this point is that it should be regulated before it's even any good. Other than that.... Westworld or bust. Lol

I used to defend Nintendo against the whole emulation, but now? Screw ‘em. They’ve had EVERY opportunity to make a storefront- which they ALREADY HAD on the Wii/WiiU- but chose to ignore the market. Can’t whine about it now. Say what you will about Apple, but the copy of Iron Man I bought on iTunes 16 years ago is STILL THERE. Get with the times.

Nintendo won’t release previous consoles games on their hardware. There wouldn’t be such demand for these emulators if they just sold their old games on their own hardware. It’s absurd.

argyle isn't great but its still better than Barbie and Oppenheimer combined! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I think it's a genius move on Apple's part. They've said, "Oh. You know better than Us? Ok. We'll do it your way.", and open the ecosystem to third party App Stores. Then when thousands of people are complaining that the "official" app they downloaded from a third-party App Store is riddled with malware and stole their bank details, Apple will just turn around and say, "Well *this* is *exactly* what we were trying to avoid. But you thought you knew better. Shall we do it our way again now?"

Emulators in the Apple App Store is hilarious. It’s an android 😅…who tf asked for this?! Buggy sketchy apps are back.

2:45 There are no Europeans. It‘s a decision of the European Union.